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>>15452 >>15454 Oh wow, that's really cool and a great idea to help sell the game. Don't have an actual GBA or Gamecube, though, so I'm not going to be able to do it. When you say trade, is there an actual trade that takes place or do you just import them into SA1/2? >>15451 Oh, alright, close enough. Thought that might have been you. >I hope you enjoy yourself anon Sure, seems like it could be fun.

>>15458 >trade or import Hmm. I think transfer would be the best way to put it. You can move the chao between any supported game but you won't have that one on SA2B and that same chao on Advance 1

Found this short fancomic and thought you might enjoy it except for the English which is a bit painful, sorry about that. Other than that it's pretty harmless and fun.

Sonic is gay

>>15461 I've actually been meaning to find fan comics worth reading but you guys often save me the trouble of looking. Thank you

>>15461 >Tinggal Apa Lagi Yaa Okay, that completely blindsided me

>>15458 >is there an actual trade that takes place or do you just import them into SA1/2? I think it's moreso importing, yeah.

>>15463 Hey, me too. I actually found this one by chance. Unfortunately I'm still not sure how to go hunting for more. If you come across any good ones make sure to post them! >>15465 The comic was translated by the creator from his native language, I think they missed that balloon and it didn't end up translated.

>>15467 Ahhh. I've seen that happen before in fan-comics, so I guess I shouldn't be too surprised in that case.

Why does Sonic seem to have an instashield but it doesn't work? Am I timing it wrong?

>>15469 If it's what I think it is, it's a move you can use for attack. I've rarely used it myself, tho

>>15469 Instashield is actually a pretty bad translation from what I remember, in Japanese it's more something like "Wind Attack". So maybe it just increases your attack range?

>>15469 I had the same issues too. I think it doesn't work like it does in S3K, were it gives you some frames of invincibility, and only works as a extension of your hitbox.

>>15471 I just went straight into the game without reading anything so I didn't even know what it was called in any language, but it looked so similar to the instashield that I didn't think it was anything else. >tfw can't bust the spiky flying fishes with not-instashield >>15472 Oh, alright. Good thing I asked or I would have kept trying to use it and losing all my rings like a fool.

>>15474 Just wait until some low end pc mod comes out like it did for forces

>>15475 I didn't know there was one, given the engine and how it looks I wouldn't have thought one could have been necessary.

>>15476 There's always people using toasters far below the requirements >given how it looks looks can be deceiving. textures and models could still be reduced to impact performance

>>15472 >>15473 Since Advance was my first Sonic game I owned, I accepted that it was just an extra ranged attack so they could map something for his second button action. When I played S3&K afterwards, I read the manual that said it gave you invincibility from projectiles when timed just right, but was confused and thought it was an error or something since I didn't understand why they would drop such a perk in a supposedly more "Advance(d)" game. When I got older and more skilled, I then realized what it could do in its original debut which made for a really nice tool in his arsenal and the fact they dropped its invincibility frame in Advance onwards probably did him no favors to people asking "Why would I play as Sonic when Tails and Knuckles are basically the same with superior air capabilities?".The original insta-shield was really a good way to distinguish him apart from the other two aside from the acceleration, jump height, and more overt shield powers since it allowed for skilled players to continue unimpeded by enemy attacks when speeding through levels, but I think the drop dash may be more appealing to the layman for speedrunning purposes. >>15475 This is also news to me.

>>15479 > and the fact they dropped its invincibility frame in Advance onwards probably did him no favors to people asking "Why would I play as Sonic when Tails and Knuckles are basically the same with superior air capabilities? It's this right here, that revealed to me when I can tell someone is talking about the "faults of 2D Sonic" come from, they aren't talking about the classics, they are confusing themselves with the Advance games, assume "if the Advance games did x, then those old ass grandad games must have been worse" so crap like "run into enemies" actually are Advance's faults, not actually the classic games. I think them retooling the classic physics into the GBA is the real impressive feat they pulled, but everything else being a downgrade in varying places really makes it sad those games might not never get a proper remake they way they deserve to.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hIlIqcVtGJA >>15480 >>15479 I have always believed that to truly bring Sonic into a modern setting, the player needs to feel like Sonic. I discussed this in the fangame thread before it fucking died but one thing I didn't mention is that if the player wants to feel like Tails, or Knuckles, then the proposed solution of "plays exactly like Sonic just with a few different attributes" is not gonna cut it. When I play vid related, I don't feel like I'm playing as Tails. I feel like I'm playing as Sonic, just with the added ability to fly. And I'm sorry, but taking away the insta-shield and giving him flight is not enough to make Tails stand out as anything other than a Sonic clone. It's not like Luigi, where "Mario except he can jump higher" is literally the complete extent of his shallow character. I think back to Sly 2, with Sly, Bentley and Murray. Murray could shimmy across ledges and do stealth kills and all sorts of crazy stuff with his gadgets, but he couldn't run on wires, he couldn't perch on spires, he couldn't pickpocket, his defense and combat capabilities sucked, basically any of the things that made Sly…well, Sly, just weren't there. You weren't playing as a thieving stealth mastermind, you were playing as a technological genius and that reflected itself in the gameplay. And because of that, none of his missions were suitable for Sly or vice-versa. Tails can catch up to Sonic better than anybody else can, but that doesn't mean he can blast off at the speed of sound. Why does he need to be as speedy as this video's ideal would have? Why can't he have his own levels that actually use his flight as more than just an easy mode being able to fly over everything, or take the occasional optional route? Why can't his brains actually play a role in the gameplay itself? Give him some gadgets or hell, even weapons, Ratchet & Clank style. I think too many Sonic fans glorify the idea of bringing Mania's multilayered, super-complex level design with multiple routes for every character into 3D with every character playing basically the same. There's no reason to do that when we have advanced past the 16-bit era to allow every character to have their own campaign, story, levels and unique gimmicks to truly make you feel like you embody all the unique strengths of each individual cast member, instead of thinking of them as "different ways to play Sonic". /rant

>>15481 >Murray could shimmy across ledges and do stealth kills and all sorts of crazy stuff with his gadgets Meant Bentley, damn it.

https://youtu.be/JEHBtq4xvS4 >>15481 Nice rant. Imo, on one hand, I've grown rather numb to the 20 years of 3D Sonic, so I'll bite with this direction. I think making characters play different is great for making said character actually feel like something special. But as a brand, it's became very clear to me over the years that 3D games fail the most when the experience of what a character in a game can do, could either work for the character AND be fun to play, or it doesn't and make the game worse. On one hand, games like Sly, for lack of a better word, are kinda dead nowadays. Unless I'm missing something, what game in the past 5 years had multiple playable gameplay styles (that isn't a spinoff title like Smash Bros), either between characters, or just by themselves? I legit don't see this anymore like I did in the 2000s. I think most people realized when you ask for a mainline game to do x because they want more of x, having the game "share" x with y when people don't like y, is why games like Sonic where Tails don't play like Sonic but with flight, seem to fail. Case in point, why people prefer Sonic 2/Mania Tails over SA2/Heroes Tails. I don't just think its simply "it's kinda janky/buggy/etc so I don't like it", I think just not being what people expect from a series is enough for people to hate it. Even when it's just one character, GoW e.g got flack for having those "balance on wooden planks" so much they removed them from future games. Because people want more of the action packed fighting, not slow platforming sections in a game about killing demons and gods. Basically, I call it "consistency overrules" syndrome. People genuinely rather have games that actively expects you to play a certain way, to be just as expected so they don't have to handle multiple ways to play. I think the Sly comparison has the one problem of contention, since the only major different between the 3 characters from what I remember was mostly their core abilities, while in general; they still can move around at decent speeds, can platform, and mostly, feel about the same to control, just that all 3 have a special ability the others can't do… which sounds familiar to Sonic and his pals, doesn't it? To me, the problem I feel is this, 2D Sonic is meant to be simply and to the point, while 3D Sonic *has* to be more complex. Or to most, "complicated/convoluted" because it "feels more realistic" or something. Personally, to have multiple characters work, having a "rooted" base for gameplay so controlling them doesn't feel like I'm playing an entirely different game (Big's Fishing, Mechs in SA2, etc), but giving them abilities that actually define their character traits is what I think is needed. Case in point, video related. It gives character special, specific traits that isn't just "replace x with y, leave everything else the same" that the 2D games have to do to work. My only complaint would be if using these unique characters feels forced and unwelcome, instead of seamless and entertaining. Ultimately though, I agree with what you're saying, but at the same time, there's a reason games today barely like to make entirely different playing characters, because it seems most people prefer it this way instead. *shrugs*

>>15483 I'm not advocating for each character being an almost entirely different game. I would never want Tails to control like a mech again, or deal with fishing. But I don't think many fans, if any, complained about Tails and Knuckles's gameplay in SA1. They had similar controls to Sonic, but were very different experiences overall. >On one hand, games like Sly, for lack of a better word, are kinda dead nowadays. Unless I'm missing something, what game in the past 5 years had multiple playable gameplay styles (that isn't a spinoff title like Smash Bros), either between characters, or just by themselves? That's not really a fair argument. 3D platformers in general have been dead for a while. Modern game development tends to put you in the reigns of ONE character with one control scheme and one moveset. Even Mario tossed out the tradition of Luigi being playable with Odyssey. Same with Mega Man and Protoman. With how expensive game development is nowadays, there's little to justify having multiple playable characters in the same game, rather than focusing all of your efforts on one character having as diverse a moveset as all of those characters combined. I believe that's why SEGA has stuck to having Sonic be the sole player character until Forces, and not because people bitched and complained about "Sonic's shitty friends". >I think the Sly comparison has the one problem of contention, since the only major different between the 3 characters from what I remember was mostly their core abilities, while in general; they still can move around at decent speeds, can platform, and mostly, feel about the same to control, just that all 3 have a special ability the others can't do… which sounds familiar to Sonic and his pals, doesn't it? I recommend you replay it then. Murray for example is a lot heavier so you technically can still platform with him, but it's not as fun or as fluid as with Sly, who's floatier. Sly can't handle the heavier enemies and can die to them in only a few moments so you're supposed to sneak around them or hide when you get spotted, while Murray is perfectly capable of taking on multiple big guys at once. And since he's a lot larger, it's pretty difficult to be stealthy with him since you can't hide under tables and such. Bentley can't even handle the smaller enemies, so getting around in his missions requires actual tactical thought. They all have a similar control scheme and similar ways of moving about the map, but there is absolutely no way you could plop Murray into one of Sly's missions and expect him to get very far. It's not just about not having a special ability, it's about being completely gimped in areas where Sly would excel. And that's my main point: if you can plop Tails into a Sonic level, and he does perfectly fine if not better than Sonic would, then something is wrong. I'm not against similar control schemes as much as I am Sonic not being special. And having an insta-shield with slightly higher top speed is not enough to make him special. >It gives character special, specific traits that isn't just "replace x with y, leave everything else the same" that the 2D games have to do to work. Maybe I missed something, but Tails in that video seems to move just as fast as Sonic, he still spindashes, he still does a homing attack, and he still has a "boost"-esque dash. The only differences are that he can fly, do a Rapid Tails Attack, and throw bombs. And while that does open up more unique opportunities for Tails-specific levels, it's still Sonic with a few more abilities piled on top. There's no equivalent exchange in place here, not enough taken away from Sonic's core moveset to justify Tails as a unique mode of play.

>>15483 >what game in the past 5 years had multiple playable gameplay styles (that isn't a spinoff title like Smash Bros), either between characters, or just by themselves?

>>15479 >it allowed for skilled players to continue unimpeded by enemy attacks when speeding through levels The instashield is genius, it does a really good job at raising the skill ceiling without ruining or radically altering the rest of the experience and it's really addicting to use when you inderstand how to, and it's also not that hard to master. Really well thought, would have never come up with it myself. I can't believe they only used it in one game (or two, technically) and then ditched it.

>>15485 Imo, I'd easliy say the DKC games easily has the same Sonic syndrome too, albiet, I haven't been able to play TF to know this for sure. But in the originals + Returns, it's basically standard controls between all characters plus one and more unique abilities to make them stand out, like in Diddy's Kong Quest personally. How did Cranky Kong play in TF?

>>15486 Same can be said about the elemental shields too. It's like they knew S3K was never going to be topped proper so they nerf the series intentional and used gimmicks and stories to distract this fact to you.

Choose your fighter

Given all the recent talk about the Advance games, I'm curious: How would you guys rank the 3 Sonic Advance titles from best to worst?

>>15496 1 > 3 > 2

>>15496 3 >= 1 > 2

>>15489 Whose face is it on the second row, third column?

>>15501 Dr. Phil

It is finally Friday!

IDW #17 covers.

>>15503 R-rude >>15504 Digging these covers, but Sonic's head is a bit freakishly large in the first one

Now updating the IDW Sonic archive. It should be done momentarily.

>>15507 I hated that boss as a kid. He's not all that difficult, nowadays, though. You collect any emeralds, yet?

>>15508 It wasn't difficult after I realized the hitbox of the ice cones was just on the tip of them and you could get on top of them even from below as long as you didn't touch the tip (you don't actually have to jump and land on the top of the cone and then jump again to reach the surface or Eggman). I only got into a special stage for the first time at this point in the game. I have no idea how I did it, I wasn't doing anything special. Those special stages are going to be a pain.

>>15509 >>15508 Literally, how do you get to the Special Zone in this game? I legit never found out going through Sonic's campaign.

/sthg/ >"GUYS HOW DO WE FIX SONIC" >(actual discussion but peppered with unnecessary personal insults) >"IAN FLYNN IS A HACK WRITER AND SATAM IS SHIT" >"post yaoi :3" /fast/ >"I played Sonic today!" >"Good for you, anon! Sonic is great! I love Sonic!" >no actual substance, just a big old hugbox >mods so conservative that anything erotic is banned I don't know which is worse.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=q_VUKFXKXS0 >>15510 One big issue of the Advance games (at least imo), is the asinine gimmicks they had for accessing special stages. This video should help ya out in terms of finding the spring locations.

>>15511 >>(actual discussion but peppered with unnecessary personal insults) >actual discussion I'd believe it when I see it. It's like a thread with like ~5 IPs isn't going to really have drown out discussions, mostly because you either have "deep cuts" like >>15481, >>15483 and >>15484 which ends up either one sided or just two people creating long stretches of text that fill up the screen, or you only get something when something new comes up. I'm actually surprise halfchan's general is still alive, after all the shitposting that place generated that has nearly any and all outside places that knows about it trash it like the cancer it's considered, but hey, you could say the same thing about halfchan as a whole, espeically /v/ and the other 'hot topic" boards. The slowness of this board really works for a 26 year old millianial like myself, where all of the high energy cancer that is halfchan really justs highlights why should I bother with that place anymore. I'm just too old to obsess about shitposting with ~18 year olds. I'd rather spent time sharing Sonic content that I like, and while it's going slow, play said content in the meantime. I mean, god forbid that same mentality is shared on halfchan's /sthg/, since there's more time to shitpost then there are playing SA2 or something.

>>15512 >It's the "let's reuse the time generators from CD as the way to find the special stage" episode Jesus Christ, that's how you get to the SPZ? Guess I'm not going to get the emeralds then, unless there's a incentive to do it like playable Super Sonic, right? How inconvenient to how it was in the Genesis games.

>>15512 Forgot to mention: I've always disliked the spring gimmick for SAdv1, but to be fair, Adv2's special keys thing was the absolute fucking worse. To this day, I've yet to get all the Chaos Emeralds in the game after I lost the original save file. I just wanna play as Amy again, dammit

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QEcAWj1LIG4 >>15514 >like playable Super Sonic Unfortunately, no. You get a special bossfight as Super Sonic, but that's pretty much it. Although I think you can play as SS through Action Replay, or something else

>>15516 Wow, really? Why cut out SS in a 2D Sonic game? Are the other Advance games like that, with no unlockable Super Sonic? I get why 3D Sonic games did that because of how likely he could break the game (albeit that didn't stop Sonic Heroes jacking up the speed variables) but the Advance games, at least the first one, really felt on point to the classic momentum physics.

>>15517 >Are the other Advance games like that, with no unlockable Super Sonic? Without cheat codes? Yeah

>>15513 My problem is that >"I like Sonic. Do you like Sonic? I like Sonic." is the extent of any kind of actual discussion in here. I mean, even that one discussion didn't seem to anywhere past…yeah, 3 posts. I understand being too old for shitposting, but that apparently also comes with "being too old to take this franchise seriously enough to talk about it in a way that isn't ultimately shallow and devoid of meaningful substance".

>>15518 That sucks… Seems bizarre to me they'd remove something like that. But I guess the same could be said about the lack of a working instashield and the elemental shields.

>>15519 So post what you want to talk about, anon. The flawed level design of stage x? The musical superiority of megadrive chiptune? Where did everything go wrong for Sonic as a franchise?

Was Infinite the first mobian main villian in years since Shadow?

>>15522 No, Mephiles came before him.

I've made a decision. I'm going to do a Plinkett review of the Sonic movie.

How would you rate Advance 1 OST? I need to play it more but so far I have not been impressed at all except for maybe 1 tune.

>>15524 What's a plinkett review?

>>15525 Same thing. This is one of the many things I feel bad about for the Advance series, the GBA was good way to have Sonic more accessible, but it came with limits, the music is majority one of them. It took them to Advance 3 to finally use the GBA sound chip to the fullest…. which still isn't close to the quality the Genesis games produce. I'm not bashing the music of the Advance games, because I personally love Sunset Hill. But it's STILL handicapped by the sound font that is the GBA's speakers, and it's unfonturate. The only rememberable osts to me is the first zone, and the second to last one. Boss wise, only the final zone literally is the only time I liked hearing Eggman's theme. It sounds very generic for a Sonic game otherwise, like, it sounds "le bad guy" esque for babies or something, not the jazzy stuff Eggman normally has.

>>15522 >last mobian shaped villain - mephiles >last mobian villain born as a mobian - shadow -last mobian villain born naturally - knuckles

>>15526 >>15524 >"So then Tom pulls out a purple space bazooka."

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LDyEJBR__rk >>15527 This is so far my favorite pick. The SFX sometimes reminds me of the sounds of the old DOS games through the PC speaker. With how good Sonic music generally is and how big of a platform for chiptunes the gameboy came to be lately, I was expecting a lot better.

>>15527 >>15530 Ice Mountain, Angel Island, Egg Rocket, Cosmic Angel, "Knuckles", and the special stage theme are the only themes from Advance that stick out to me. I love those themes, but the rest of the music is mostly just eh.

>>15519 We do have actual discussions, but you have to realize: 1. This board has a low pop. With any topic, you're not going to have as many people interested in discussing it, and most discussion is going to be slow. 2. Sonic has been discussed to fucking death. It's hard to discuss things when you're probably just going to be repeating what you've already said. 3. We don't get a lot of people that are new to the franchise. The majority of us are pretty experienced when it comes to the series, so it's hard for anyone to teach, learn, or find something new. There's only so many times you can have the "what I think Sonic should be" discussion, before it gets stale. One can only argue why they think SA2 is amazing/shit for so long before they get tired of it. I'm just thankful we don't get the kind of autists /sthg/ seemed to attract.

>find a barrel in not!carnival night >try looking up/down >doesn't move >it actually has real physics now the fuckers.

https://twitter.com/nefault1st/status/1127170120432877568?s=20 For any Chao lovers in here, Vs Darkness seem to be doing well with them so far.

>>15534 >mfw they knew

>>15534 Isn't it more of at not!casino night?

>>15537 The barrel meme came from Carnival Night Zone. You could say in general the level here is more Casino ripoff than not, or a mix of both.

>>15534 kek >>15535 Sweet. Nice to see fangames picking up on giving Chaofags like me something worthwhile.

>>15537 >>15538 There weren't any gambling machines in there though, just maybe the pinball paddles, but there were balloons and barrels which were from Carnival Night. It's kind of a mix, but I had to call it not!carnival for the barrel to make sense. Anyway, done with this. I figured out how to beat the final boss on my last live and after losing all my rings, phew. Is there any difference in the levels with the other characters that makes it worth a replay? Otherwise I'll move on to Advance 2.

>>15535 Cute.

>>15540 I think it's only character differences, that's about it. It's like Sonic 2 than it is Sonic 3, where Knuckles get's his special take on the story.

>>15542 Yeah. The other characters (Amy especially) has some differences in how they play compared to Sonic.

>>15540 >not getting all the emeralds and fighting the true final boss Sonic wouldn't let Eggman get away. Why would you?

>>15545 It sounds like a rather frustrating endeavor that would take a large amount of time in a game that's not that great.

>>15546 Don't feel too bad. Sonic Advance's final boss sucks. Not worth it at all.

Holy shit fuck this boss.

>>15549 >Ice Paradise boss You have my condolences, anon.

>>15549 What's funny for me is that my first experence with anything Sonic Advance 2 was Ultimate Flash Sonic and its version of this boss was easy to abuse because they gave you a lot of rings as you kept running. Otherwise it was rather hard when Eggman reached pitch mode.

>>15549 >Sonic Advance 2 boss You have my condolences, anon.

>>15551 >Ultimate Flash Sonic Holy shit, the memories.

>>15551 >they gave you a lot of rings as you kept running I noticed this too with the rest of the Advance 2 bosses, they give you lots of rings on the boss battles. It kind of makes things too easy for the most part but it does let you focus on the boss better which is fun. Also, most of the boss battles have so far been very similar, you just run after Eggman while getting lots of rings and the only things that change are the attacks and the way to defeat him. Wish there was a bit more variety, Advance 1 was much better on this. >>15553 >>14570

>>15554 Well I hate to break it to ya, but from what I know, that's literally all the bosses in the game. Thanks to that latest breakdown video by the Geek Crtique of Advance 2, the reason for the game's direction is in responce to people saying the previous game (Advance 1) felt "too slow" for a Sonic game. Which I can personally see where they get that from, as it was basically Sonic 1 Advance + Tails, Amy & Knuckles. But Dimps seem to have taken it too hard to heart, so they basically created the first Boost game for the Sonic series, and it shows based on how much faster the game is, to the point I really beg the question why is Super Sonic cut from the main game? I think Sonic Team forcing in all of the 3D era conventions really did a number to "streamline" the Advance games with mix results at times.

>>15549 I know your pain

I should read the controls page next time. I didn't know Sonic could jump in the air after hitting a spring and I don't know how many lives I lost here. >>15555 >that's literally all the bosses in the game Well that's pretty lazy of them. >the previous game (Advance 1) felt "too slow" for a Sonic game It's pretty funny playing Advance 2 just after playing Advance 1, the difference is pretty big in terms of how they play. I got into Advance 2 taking it slow and safe and the game was trying to make me go fast at all costs, kek. Advance 2 feels way too automated but I feel it's more fun than Advance 1, and the levels seem complex enough for me to want to go back and give them a replay to see what else is there. Finding those weird coins or stars or whatever they are is fun.

>>15558 Those things you find in the stage is actually the way you access Special Stages to get Chaos Emeralds. You gotta find 7 of them in each stage. Get all the Emeralds with every character in the game & you unlock another character. Wait until you get to Techno Base & you try to collect those things

>>15559 I realized given a few of the other posts. I didn't know there were 7 of them in a stage, damn. >Get all the Emeralds >with every character That's really overboard. >spoiler I can believe you, I got tired of Sky Canyon's bullshit and I'm taking a rest.

>>15461 >>15464 Dunno where you found it, but you better hope he doesn't file a DMCA, he's charging no less than 2 dollars for this: https://gumroad.com/l/JJkA

>>15562 >charging money for an unfinished mess

>>15564 Just like SEGA!

>>15565 haha well meme'd my friend

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Pfxie6bmuXY Just a little fun post.

>>15562 If he finds it maybe he could realize the balloon he forgot to translate and fix it, or ask for help with a more accurate translation. But filing a DMCA claim would be funny since I doubt he has a license to make these, so this is not so different to what he's doing (though we're not making money out of other people's properties and he is) and he's just as liable to a claim.

>>15569 Fucking lol

Did you call your mother yet /sthg/?

>>15572 Kek. But what if they used to buy you Sonic stuff?

>>15571 Those are some nice cards, but that makes me wonder: Does Sonic even have a mother?

>>15575 Are you asking if he just, one day, sprouted from the ground?

>>15576 Well, nah. Moreso I'm just curious if SEGA ever really thought about the cast's parents outside of Cream.

>>15576 Sonic confirmed for a pineapple and a fake hedgehog?

>>15577 Of course not.

Hi

>>15582 Hello. You play any Sonic games recently?

Characters wearing a sonic hoodie give me life

>>15584 Unfortunately it's a pain in the butt finding them

>>15583 Not actual ones unfortunately. I’m waiting for TSR so I can play with whoever wants to play with me.

Cosplay is cool too

>>15586 I want to try TSR but I'll have till it becomes cheap to play it

>>15587 Imagine a good Sonic game where we could dress up our favorite characters in cool outfits. It would sell like hotcakes

>>15589 We already had Forces. You need more than that to make it worth it. Or moreso, that itself wouldn't really be the selling point, just "it's a good game" would be. That's just a bonus.

>>15589 We can only hope

>>15590 I said our favorite characters, not our CACs/OCs. I want to dress up Sonic and co., not an avatar

>>15582 Hello! >>15584 >>15585 I think I have a few of characters wearing hoodies of other characters. >>15588 There's been a few developments of Steam emulators that work for online play with pirated versions. Maybe you could try that.

>>15591 >>15585 Which Tekno is the proper way to draw her face?

>>15593 There's some inconsistency regarding the way she's supposed to look in the original comic, so it's basically up to the artist's interpretation.

>>15592 Well tbh there's Forces Battle? It's something. Limited, but something. I feel like the reason this isn't in mainline games because Sonic Team can't get the main game being good enough to waste time doing other things now.

>>15595 Oops, meant for >>15594

>>15597 >>15595 That's weird. You'd think there'd be an official character sheet for the artists to stick to back then

So… Did 4chan suddenly die that we got this influx of posts?

>>15599 Not that I'd know since I abandoned the place a while back.

>>15588 I’ve been keeping occupied with Mario Kart until then when I get the itch to play a racer. I don’t know too many people who want to play so I just kinda handle with solo online play. I’m hoping here or /other places/ would be kind enough to participate.

>>15599 It's probably because of the terrible state of the general over there. Threads are bumped solely by shitposters (or A shitposter with a lot of free time) t. I post on both sites

>>15599 It didn’t, it’s just slow right now. I just wanted to say hi and that I missed you guys.

>>15603 So if I didn't reply to you (assuming you're the miku poster), would you have just lurked here waiting?

>>15598 Yeah, fleetway is a free for all styles, which is sometimes great and not so great other times.

>>15600 Same boat. That's why I had to ask. >>15602 >Threads are bumped solely by shitposters Sounds familiar. >>15603 >4/sthg/ >slow Odd.

>>15604 I sometimes lurk here anyway. I’d have to think about what to post.

>>15606 Well it is very very early afternoon and a Monday.

>>15605 Since you're probably a Fleetwayfag, what do you imagine a game centered around it's universe would be like?

>>15609 Storywise I think it would be something very similar to what a satam/archie game would be like: freedom fighters working together to take out eggman's empire, with the added spark of sonic turning into super at some point, him turning into the main villain. That'd be a cool switch. Gameplay wise I'm not sure. I was thinking something like what the fangame Sonic World is, cause each character is very different in what they can do. Apart from sonic, tails and knuckles, Amy has a crossbow, she'd be great for long range combat or something like that. Johnny is a one on one type of fighter, weilding a metal staff. Shortfuse is an op option, because he's arguably the most powerful one with his super badnik armor, can fly, punches hard and shoots lasers, maybe he could do for a boss too if he lost control of his suit. This got me thinking, are there any archie or satam fangames?

When did we first hear about the Sonic movie being in production?

>>15611 I believe SEGA revealed it back in 2014, when Sony was still working on the movie originally.

>>15611 The first indication of a movie was at the 2014 Nuremberg International Toy Fair, where this poster stated that the franchise's first CG animated film was coming out sometime in the future. Of course, this poster was somewhat incorrect (I fucking wish we got a new Sonic game in 2015), and Sega released a statement that they never told the Toy Fair about any upcoming games or Boom's TV series. Later on, in June 2014, Sony and Sega released a press statement revealing that they had teamed up to create a yearly series of Sonic the Hedgehog films (https://www.hollywoodreporter.com/heat-vision/sonic-hedgehog-movie-works-at-sony-710867). The first one involved Sonic and some other franchise characters including Eggman, and former writer Van Robichaux revealed that he had regular meetings with Sega of Japan (https://twitter.com/VanTheBrand/status/966760757126811649). Now, the rights for the film have transferred over to Paramount Pictures since 2017 (https://www.hollywoodreporter.com/amp/heat-vision/sonic-hedgehog-movie-races-paramount-1044819), with minimal invovlement from Sega (http://www.ladbible.com/technology/gaming-in-conversation-with-team-sonic-racing-producer-takashi-iizuka-20190430) and no information on further films after the first one.

>All these new posts Nice. Welcome & enjoy your stay, anons! >>15613 Yup. IIRC, that Van dude also tried to learn as much as he could about the Sonic series, playing the games as well as posting on message boards like SSMB, interacting with the fanbase directly. Damn shame all of that was for nothing, since he got booted off the project shortly before it went to Paramount.

>>15614 His ambitions were good, but I don't know if his and Evan Susser 's writing talents would be all that good, judging from their sole project, Fist Fight. In fact, that's what pisses me off the most. In both Sony's and Paramount's plans for the film(s), the writers are all shit.

>>15616 What are you talking about? It's the only film they've ever wrote, and it's shit. Being a fan of something doesn't mean you can write better than before, and it doesn't mean you can write something good.

>>15615 It may not have been all that good, but I do think that at least they would've had at least a bit more of an idea than what we're getting now. He seemed pretty adamant in making sure the film wouldn't have been another Smurfs/Chipmunks type of movie.

>>15617 >. Being a fan of something doesn't mean you can write better than before, This. I mean come on, just because fans made Mania, doesn't mean every Sonic fan is as good, if good at all. Kishimoto and other Sonic Team staff are 'fans' of Sonic, doesn't mean they make the stuff the overall fanbases wants, although, this is a gray area within itself. The only thing that would have been the case with Sony's Sonic would have been the first leaked image of him would have retroactively been far better then Movie Sonic today, like always. Like, this happens all the time, something "isn't good enough" then someone else fucks it up even more, only for people to ask for the shit they bashed to come back. I remember people did this same thing and used Boom Sonic as the retroactive design, which before that, was Modern Sonic when Sonic Boom was revealed.

>>15613 Damn, that's a really nice recap anon, brings back a lot of memories. I remember that poster, it was fun when leaks like that happened and allowed us to speculate and dream (even if that's kind of a mistake), and it's been so boring after they stopped happening and things slowed down. >I fucking wish we got a new Sonic game in 2015 I fucking wish we got a CG animated film. >>15614 >that Van dude also tried to learn as much as he could about the Sonic series, playing the games as well as posting on message boards like SSMB I was going to mention something about this regarding >>15598 since sometimes like with Van and even Potanc/Graff (and I'm pretty sure there are other examples), people that are supposed to create stuff for the franchise are given nothing to work with and they have to make due with what's publicly available. What the hell. I will never understand how Sega is sometimes so anal about how characters are depicted (see the comics, the bibles for merchandise and packaging) but some other times they just completely throw the towel (Boom, the movie, etc.) and don't give a shit. >>15615 I never understood why nobody had issues with this fact when he was revealed as the writer. Maybe it was just because of him giving them attention and showing himself as friendly to the fanbase/franchise? Also the guy sounds like a lunatic judging from his Twitter after he got distanced from the movie, lol.

If Sonic's power is speed, Tails' power is flight/intelligence, and Knuckles power is strength, what is Amy's power? Since I'm probably going to get nothing but shitposts in response to this, I'll bite and say Amy's power is determination/tenacity. Once she's got a hold of something, she won't let it go unless she's forced to let it go. Not just literally, but metaphorically. If something needs to be done, and no one else can do it, she'll jump on it. And if she's incapable of doing it, she'll force herself to become capable of doing it.

>>15621 Amy doesn't have a special power. At most, she's just fast like a lot of other characters.

>>15621 That sounds about right. Her hammer packs some punch, but her biggest defining feature seems to be her passion & determination. Whether it's her feelings for Sonic, the faith she has in other characters or anything else, you never really see Amy not wear her heart on her sleeve. In terms of specific power, she doesn't really have one outside of the Piko Piko I guess, but that sorta makes her the proverbial "heart" of the team.

I thought he said there wasn't going to be a stream this week since TSR releases next week and they wanted to postpone it closer to the release date. Also, he never seems to address the stream on the official account, why do you think that is? Kind of awkward.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=La4cnC81a5Q

Spark the Electric Jester 2 comes out Thursday, apparently. Probably the closest thing we'll get to another Adventure for a while. I can't find the full version of the first pic anywhere, which frustrates me.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=U1sIGMnV4_o >>15625 Saw the news, was thinking of posting some footage but got lazy. Here's the final trailer for it. Looks a bit awkward in my opinion. Not sure how good of an idea it is to release so close to TSR.

>>15621 She's meant to have magically powers. But since SEGA doesn't like to use it all the time, her trait is determination. She's basically Mario when the magical side lay dormant.

>>15626 I'd say the next Heroes more than Adventure, at least to me. It just gives me more of a vibe to that instead of anything Adventure. Also, that purple haired girl looks familiar…

>>15629 If more people even knew of the game, I'm sure /clang/ would be having a field day with her.

>>15628 >meant to have magical powers lol no. She has idle interest, but she's never shown any active display of magical powers in the games or anything relating to them.

>this motherfucker can one-slap you /sthg/ this is not okay

>>15631 > in the games or anything relating to them. She does in Sonic 06 and the Black Knight. The ability to turn invisible. Also I think in Sonic Battle. Again she doesn't use them much. She was always meant to have it since CD, SoJ just don't focus on it like many things the cast used to do like Knuckles guarding the ME.

>>15633 >06 An outlier with little introduction or presence since. >Black Knight Simply a counterpart. Knuckles is not a sailor, and Knuckles, Shadow, Blaze, Jet, and Silver aren't swordsmen. >Battle Not an ability; just a hallucination from Amy. Amy even suggests that she was imagining. Amy was never hinted to have magical powers in CD's Japanese manual outside of an interest in tarot cards and dowsing, which was promptly abandoned once Adventure came out.

>>15635 Well, I thought it was something that actually something SEGA once did pushed in some places, but whatever, it's not that big of a deal. As far as it's concern then, she doesn't have powers. Honestly, most of the cast kinda doesn't I guess, outside of Sonic, Knuckles, Shadow, Silver and Blaze.

>>15637 Espio has camouflage. That's basically a power.

>>15636 Truly adorable.

>>15637 Omega has power. DESTRUCTIVE POWER. Do you think people would flip their shit if this panel happened today?

>>15638 I guess. But going by the initial question above, I thought it was "super power" kind of traits.

>>15632 >Sky Canyon boss It doesn't get easier >>15635 >which was promptly abandoned once Adventure came out At least until those Sonic Channels comics, which oddly brought it back.

>>15640 >second spoiler I don't think anyone would get really angry about it, mainly because it seems that the whole comic can be taken comedically.

>>15635 Amy can cast Instant Summons. That makes her a L14 Sorceress.

https://youtu.be/aHW0Vn-wRzs The OST for tsr has been leaked. Here's the full version of Green Light ride

>>15646 I knew the street date was going to break, but I didn't think it'd be this soon.

>>15646 So how can this be played and are there videos available of the game?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QJ7SwZseOvE >>15648 This vid has been floating around. I've got no clue about how this guy got the game.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mfe6eVK7qoU >>15648 The game released early in certain areas. One guy released the full version of Green Light Ride, and there are some videos of TSR's courses. It doesn't seem like there are any options such as toggling the minimap, first/third-person view, or voices, at least not on the Switch version.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hsl3JXRQe6s Here's the loading music. A nice, atmospheric remix of Green Light Ride.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fcfKpkj8uSI Here's Shadow's Team Ultimate. It's a remix of All Hail Shadow by Crush 40.

More details about TSR on Switch: Might be 1080p docked 30 fps docked (don't worry, every other console runs at 60)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dGpHwrTHsaM Sonic's Team Ultimate. A remix of Reach for the Stars.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RBZqgIhBUAM Blaze's Team Ultimate. A remix of Vela Nova.

Some more details about the game: Almost all of the non-course tracks are Green Light Ride remixes Sonic, Tails, and Knuckles are the only unlocked characters at the start of the game, but Amy, Chao, and Big are unlocked shortly afterwards, presumably through Team Adventure

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=asxdDt9yq8w Tails' Team Ultimate. A remix of Sonic Adventure 2's Believe in Myself.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ocRRHhfkPVg Chao's Team Ultimate. A remix of Sonic Adventure 2's Chao Race against (I think) a Jewel Chao.

In the off chance SEGA C&D these leaked videos, maybe you should just link to the leakers channel instead of …spaming… the thread. Just in case all of these end up dead links.

>>15659 Not him but I hope they last until I can listen to them later today ;_;

>>15660 No need to worry https://mega.nz/#!6tkjwAJC!gijYesUOSO1DceiZnDqYmFtEcc2s9dk8kcOfxWfhBqI This is the game rip of every sound in the game

Sorry for spamming the general. I just got excited a bit.

>>15662 It's good. I just thought of the chance all of this got deleted everyone that was late to the party would be confused with all the dead links. So get them while it's hot I guess kek. >>15661 Thanks anon. Appreciated.

>>15661 >game rip of every sound in the game Jesus Christ that was fast. To think it's still a full week until it actually releases.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rJLkkOxRP8Y >from internal demo cartridge/music reel >composed by David Javelosa (c) 1993 >unused out take!!

>>15650 >first/third-person view How often has that ever been an option in kart racers?

>>15667 Don't know about kart racers, but it has been a feature in a lot of regular racers. I know it's in Mario Kart 7, though.

>>15649 >mfw the same thing that happened with Mania happened again

>>15672 Street dates being broken have happened with plenty of other Sonic games and plenty of other franchises.

>>15649 >Sonic slides off the road on to the grass >"I wish I was driving a lawnmower" Kek >>15650 >or voices Seems like there's a volume slider for the voices so you could mute them completely or at least muffle them.

>>15654 I need more, Jun pls.

>>15674 Good point. I guess that commentor might have been wrong, then.

>>15666 Oh hey, he delivered after all! Quite a catchy tune. >>15673 Yeah, I guess you're right, but with that particular event still fresh in mind I couldn't help but to associate them. Both happened on Switch too.

https://youtu.be/pXEJC0SOR_w Story mode leaks

>>15685 Is it me, or does Knuckles VA sound different?

>>15689 I think he's just speaking a little softer, that's all.

>>15689 this>>15690 I guess the voice director told him to change his portrayal.

>>15689 I heard it's a new VA. The Boom Knuckles resigned his role after Forces iirc.

>>15692 >Boom Knuckles He voiced Knuckles 4 years before Boom was even a thing.

>>15694 I know, since Free Riders. I just used Boom Knuckes as the most recognized appearance, since no one seriously remembers Free Riders and he only had like one line in Generations. Boom was the only time Knuckles had more than 5 lines of dialog next to Forces.

Going to miss this site.

>>15696 What a stupid train of thought.

>>15696 >YTMND is kill F. At least some of the Sonic Sez vids may still be up on YT

>>15696 Never went there myself, didn't know it was so popular with anons and that so many still felt so strongly about the site.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NoDBNc9CqNI Who do you think it is?

>>15710 Hmm Maybe some reveal event? I can't imagine it'd be for a game, but I can see them announcing some merch & promotional tie-ins, or something.

>>15711 No, each month they give a hint for the character featured in the next month's Sonic wallpaper, and that video is the current hint they just posted.

>>15712 Oh. I'm an idiot, my bad It looks like Sonic, tbh

>>15716 hot

>>15715 That's a very comfy pic

Remember when Sega did these? Did you ever try to win anything?

>>15730 Fug, did not mean to spoiler. Have a bonus image I found while searching for that one.

>>15731 >25 extra lives as a pre-order bonus Ya know, this has got me wondering: Why hasn't SEGA tried to put out some bigger DLC material for Sonic games? Until Mania/Forces, the DLC content for the series has been mostly lacking

>>15732 Sonic Lost World had good DLC content, for what that's worth.

>>15733 Probably the best dlc content any Sonic game has had so far, Plus being second

What's your top 3 ugliest Sonic zones/stages/levels? I think this tops it for me.

>>15736 Really? I actually thought it looked cool. Well, color wise I don't really like it, but design wise I love it. One of the best techno theme levels in Sonic, compared to the shite like in ShTH.

>>15737 It doesn't look that bad in the picture but when it's animated, specially when that weird burst of energy happens and fills the background with graphic noise that moves all the time, it's just too distracting and random and not particularly pretty, so it kind of annoys me. It also bothers me that it doesn't seem to have a definite style like most other zones… it's just too abstract for me.

>>15738 I can see what you mean. Which is sadly something I feel effects most of the Advance games the most, most of the limitations being on such a small screen with not a lot of depth control like the Genesis games had the power to do (even better done in Mania) that it makes me earn for a remake of the game with modern day conventions.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wUSiMq6dMaE

>>15739 Some of the depth effects in the Genesis games were really impressive. But I think something as wacky as this would still look bad even on a Genesis.

https://twitter.com/SNN_Wiki/status/1128756416649531392?s=20 Night anons

>>15744 I was wondering what had happened to them.

>>15744 Oh nice, Gemerl will be able to fight the infected without getting infected himself. Sonic's not looking too good though.

>>15744 I wonder what Gemerl's personality will be like in IDW. Doubt it'll be as lively as Archie's

Thinking about buying Forces. Anyone here know if there's any differences between digital versions?

>>15750 >Thinking about buying Forces. Why? >Anyone here know if there's any differences between digital versions? PC will at least get you what mods exist.

>>15749 Bump is so cute. Needs bigger butt though.

Here's the next 10 games that were just announced for the Mega Drive Mini. Only 10 more are left to be announced to complete the set of 40 launch titles. 2nd image is the other 20 previously announced games.

>>15753 These are all good picks. What else is even left?

>>15753 >Based Vectorman Sold Mega Man Wily Wars being a part of this is also interesting.

>>15755 Saved. Thanks for sharing, anon!

>>15755 >stared at thumbnails of both trying to spot the differences >didn't realize second image was a video till I clicked it Alrighty then. Anyway, this is great! It's always nice to see an artist's proccess. Thanks for sharing!

>>15753 >Wily Wars One of the last things I expected. >Wonder Boy Nice. Now I hope the last batch included Monster World IV.

>>15757 >>15758 Sure, any time anons. >>15754 Sonic 3 & Knuckles?

>>15750 As with anything, the Switch version is shit but portable, and the PC version has mod support.

>>15760 I didn't mention that one since everytime it's brought up, there's always legal rumors floating around on why it's not in the latest genesis collection(s)

I just wanted to point out that Spark the Electric Jester 2 is out. With mixed results based on Stream ratings. Anyone here played it yet? Or will play it in due time?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=X_7rMzl7jGk >>15762 >>15754 This guy too. Holy shit that OST, I became familiar with it recently and I can't for the life of me stop listening to it.

>>15763 Nope. I'm broke and don't have a pc. From what I've seen in the videos, it's exactly like I feared: the level design is amateurish but has some decent ideas. it's sonic adventure fan edition

>>15763 Shows mostly positive for me, and it's a very low number of reviews anyway. But to strictly answer the question then probably won't play it.

Japs apparently really like Dr. Starline.

>>15767 >>15767 do japs even get translated idw comics?

>>15768 I don't think so but that's not stopping them from reading them it seems.

https://twitter.com/Genocide_City/status/1128926078242701312?s=20 That time where Modern Sonic has a front mouth since Riders (or Brawl). Feels weild, but inviting. I don't get why they stick to side mouths all the time on angles that doesn't look right when it happens. But the main reason I posted this was thinking about the animation and how I wished the mainline games could look better than this. They look just like this, and it looks so sterile and bland. Like, even Mario Odyssey updated Mario's standard animations now.

https://twitter.com/TailsChannel/status/1129143239854964736?s=20 Detailed info on TSR Overdrive design

>>15771 I love Modern so much.

>>15771 Hesse is the only artist I've seen who actually does the green eyes like they should, imo. You can't tell from a distance that his eyes are green: his irises aren't 5 times the size of his pupil. They don't look out of place here like they do in other art where the green sticks out like a sore thumb.

>>15773 Can agree 100%. Even something like how Nintendo does with Toon Link would work as well, but what makes it work is because it's not so in your face, its an extra, not the feature. Something SEGA just don't know how to do, is subtlity. They always force the newest addition to Sonic in your face. That's likely why the whole "green eyes" thing happen nearly 20 years ago, while no one made a big deal when "classic" Sonic had brown tinted eyes at one point (which Mania brought back)

I want it. >>15771 Seems like that was just a teaser and Hesse is going to go on stream and deliver the rest later. Looking forward to that. There's going to be a lot of streams next week, too. Weekend, Tuesday, and I think Friday?

I just played a bit over an hour of it. It's good, but disappointing. The core gameplay and controls are great, but there's like five powers, not counting base Fark, and all the bosses, so far, fall to the same "spam attack and occasionally parry" strategy.

>>15776 Meant for >>15763

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=joS_vy5y-e8

/fast/ would you get upset with me if I said I don’t really care about Riders’ story and I like Mario Kart and I’ll probably enjoy TSR for its gameplay?

>>15780 No. It's not that serious. >I don't really care about Riders story That's fine too. Many people skip or don't pay attention to the story in games.

>>15781 It’s just that to my memory I didn’t find it all that interesting. I usually like stories though in other Sonic games but I just want to pay attention to the gameplay because well… it’s a kart racer. Please take me in your care.

Good morning /fast/! It's Friday! What are you plans for the weekend? Anything Sonic related? Pic related, I'm going to be playing these games . Half of them I've played before and the other half will be a first time experience. Can you guess which ones?

>>15782 >I didn't find it all that interesting Hmm, well that's what you felt as you played it. It didn't pull you in like other Sonic stories and that's fine. If you're having fun or trying to have fun, isn't that all that matters?

>>15783 Oh there you are Greet-anon. I missed you. I don’t think I have any plans Sonic wise. I’m still just waiting for TSR. I’ve been listening to some music though, checking on Instagram over some cosplays. I’m just trying to find a job for the first time and I’m getting a trial one due to a facility that helps people like me try them out and then they’ll help me. And then I’ll use some a little bit of what I earned for my merchfaggotry aha

>>15784 That’s what I was thinking but I also don’t want to promote mediocracy either..

>>15785 >waiting for TSR That's coming out in a few days, right? It's still not available digitally for PlayStation yet. >trying to find a job for the first time Ganbatte anon! Are you excited?

>>15780 >/fast/ would you get upset with me Only in a teasing manner. >>15783 Good morning anon. I'll be trying to finish my Advance 2 playthrough on Saturday and maybe give the first one a quick replay too because I already have kind forgotten it. Other than that I have faggy normal activities planned with other people for the rest of the weekend. >I'm going to be playing these games That's a lot of vidya, have fun! Wish I had that kind of time. >Can you guess which ones? You do realize it says in the image right?

>>15788 >spoiler Not quite. Recently played means I started the game up. I could have gone as far as the title screen and never pushed start.

>>15785 >checking on Instagram over some cosplays Found any cool Sonic ones? >And then I’ll use some a little bit of what I earned for my merchfaggotry That's always cool, good luck on your job hunt and make sure to post what things you get. >>15789 Could be. First row still sounds plausible, though.

>>15787 >>15790 Very nervous actually. My first time! I’m fortunate to have a program help me try out. But whatever I see and get, I’d love to show it to everyone. I’m on a mission to Sonicfy my bag. I was actually looking at Sonic cosplays. I thought hardly anyone would cosplay as Sonic characters but there’s quite a few people who do. That makes me happy though. >>15788 That’s fair. I get a lot of tease anyway, I’m used to it. That’s a relief though.

>>15775 was there any other merchandise shown on the stream?

>>15790 I'll give you a hint to help guess which ones One of the Sega games in the top row I have never played before

>>15791 >Very nervous actually. My first time! Hope you're lucky and end up in a good one. It's tricky, and it can be bad when they're not (specially for the first one), but it's possible. Currently posting from work myself, kek >I’m on a mission to Sonicfy my bag. Your call but you might want to keep your powerlevel hidden. >>15792 Yes, there were Sonic and Shadow RC cars which looked pretty cool, a tabletop Sonic game, and Genesis USB controllers that work with current platforms and also will work with the Genesis Mini.

>>15793 Not him but here's my guess.

>>15794 Anon… I trust you know what you’re doing to not risk yourself getting into trouble. I know it’s a really bad time to share your interest in Sonic with the movie coming out and all especially but I just want to have fun. I suppose I could find another series I really like to work on it instead but I love Sonic with all of my heart. I would’ve taken it to special events though, like conventions. Suppose I can just be generic Love Live fan #3473994

>>15796 Isn't Love Live also owned by Sega?

>>15796 Idk by owned but SEGA contributes to a lot of merch to certain series like idol games. Sonic has collab with Love Live several times before.

>>15798 >>15797

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Av4UMMRAUNM

https://twitter.com/Cybrid101/status/1129390991893520385?s=20 It's good

https://youtu.be/HwgVae6rHb0 Performance test of Team Sonic Racing on PS4 and PS4 pro

>>15801 That's good, though those rating's are more like average aren't they? >>15795 You just wanted to post that picture didn't you

>>15803 Well considered how IGN gave such a high score considering Sonic's… recent publicity, it's interesting none the less.

>>15803 On one hand, yes, to give an legitimate answer to his post On the other hand, very yes because I'm hopeless for NiGHTS

Looks like Britbongs are having a field day with Shadow. Apparently in Europe "Slag" is a curse word. I don't know if this is from the UK version of the game, but I hope they censor it for THEM and not in America because it's not a swear in the states, it means to break into pieces, which is likely why the used the word.

>>15795 >>15805 You are ____correct I never had that system or knew it had a ps3 port till now. Looking forward to playing it later

>>15806 Reminds me of how Rush Adventure got a slightly higher rating (or censored, can't remember) because of Marine's aussie slang talk

So apparently, TSR is having a little pre-order sale on Amazon.

Anyone here with a Switch or Xbone? Is TSR available in the digital stores for those platforms?

>>15810 I think they mentioned on the stream yesterday that there were no digital preorders for one reason or another and that the game would go on sale for digital copies at midnight PST on launch day, or something like that.

Man, Nights is a weird game. I'm enjoying myself but it is really weird. The controls bounce from decent to awful and it's sometimes hard to tell what can or cannot hurt you. I want to look up a walkthrough so I can stop getting these D ranks but I don't want to deprive myself of experiencing the new parts firsthand. I can see now why Nights was popular

>>15813 Have you played Robo Blast 2 anon? They have the special stages work like NiGHTS into Dreams gameplay. Maybe you could try those out too >Filename oh no… don't do this to me…

I um… hello

>>15815 Hello there anon! What Sonic-related hijinks are you up to tonight?

>>15816 Nothing atm. I think I'm just waiting for TSR to come out tbh. School is almost over too, might finally be able to play Sonic Mania Plus.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fiMhREYOZIA >>15816 Not him but… Sorry for the commentary, but this shit kinda hyped me up to play this

>>15818 Yoo, that looks pretty rad. If I had a wii I'd totally mod that in.

>>15819 Woah thanks anon. What a welcome.

>>15821 No problem, are you new to the board?

>>15823 Yes.

>>15813 I really enjoyed playing the first NiGHTS game earlier this year. I wonder how much Iizuka wishes he could make another game.

>>15824 That's always great to hear. Who's your favorite character?

>>15826 pic related

>>15800 Can I have more CGI pls Sega?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Md5IXNdRV44 >>15827 Nice No joke, Dreams of an Absolution may be in my top 3 favorite character themes

>>15827 Silver's a cute. Enjoy the board anon.

Redpill me on Marine. Is she supposed to be Blaze's Tails or something? What's with her water powers?

>>15829 I agree, god fucking damnit, and I am gonna list my top 5 Sonic vocal themes and none of you can stop me. >Dreams of an Absolution (LB vs JR Remix) >With Me >What I'm Made Of >The Chosen One >Endless Possibilities I want Bentley Jones to do more things for this franchise.

>>15835 >What I'm Made Of God yes, that song fucking rules. I forget, did SEGA ever do an official remix for it? >>15834 To sum it up, the purpose of Marine is to be the Tails to Blaze's Sonic, as you mentioned. Her water powers were never really expanded on ** mostly because she didn't make any major appearances in the franchise after Rush Adventure.

>>15836 Well, there's the 2007 mix with better balancing, drums and whatnot. It doesn't sound any different at first, but once you listen to them back to back you can't go back. They did a similar one for Live & Learn. Rumor has it they were meant to be the versions in SSBB, but cut for some reason

>>15836 I gotta play the Rush games. Are ds emulators decent enough for that?

>>15838 I hope so because I was also planning on giving them a play soon.

>>15838 AFAIK, DS emulators can definitely work well enough for the Rush games with no issues. >>15837 >2007 mix with better drums, balancing & whatnot Guess I know what I'm listening too in the n morning.

>>15829 Not going to lie, I love this song too

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Fi1oKjAY_SU Aaron/Katie are whoring themselves out for charity.

>>15845 Well hey, it's for a good cause

>>15847 She likes 'em big She likes 'em fluffy

As someone that's never played Sonic Riders, what are your thoughts on the games? Are they really worth playing?

>>15849 Definetly, the first one is simple and fun, but the second one is more interesting. Even the story is pretty amazing. Besides the cool character design, Zero Gravity also has, in my opinion, the best cutscenes in any sonic game ever.

>>15849 The first two are worth playing for their own reasons. The third one isn't as unplayable as people say it is, but it's not enjoyable.

>>15813 Pro-tip: Get the 20 blue chips to the Ideya Capture Machine first ASAP. Then spend as much time doing tricks, collecting chips, and chaining links together before going to the gazebo-like Ideya Palaces. Do not finish the 4 mares (courses) in each level quickly. Only rush to the Ideya Captures in the bginning of each course and when beating the bosses. Tripped me up too when I first played it.

Given the recent interview Iizuka did about the current state of Sonic & how "they feel like Sonic's turned a corner towards where they wanna go" & the increase in Adventure-era pandering, what are the odds SEGA actually does a Sonic Adventure remake in the next few years?

>>15854 >the increase in Adventure-era pandering What? Where are you seeing this? Because from where I'm standing, they're moving closer and closer to a Classic-centric franchise. I'm pretty sure Iizuka is referring to the unprecedented success of Mania, Mania Plus and Mania Adventures.

>>15855 >Where are you seeing this? It hasn't been anything major, but between the new merch being made for Chao, lots of new mixes/remixes for Adventure-Unleashed era music in TSR/Forces as well as (IIRC) Iizuka stating that he'd like to go back to re-do some of the stuff in Sonic Adventure. There's been a bit more stuff from that period than what we've gotten around say, 2013-2016. At least from what I've seen.

>>15855 >What? Where are you seeing this? Because from where I'm standing, Not him. Forces was the first to pander to Adventure. First all the rehashing of Chaos, evil Shadow, darker story. Also how the Avatar got Soap Shoes as a unlockable asserary Second comes Team Sonic Racing. Heroes got the most rehashing content, next to boost era. Also Crash 40 returning, and the return of relavent Chao content. And IDW basucally being the most 2000s era pandering out of all Sonic media right now, also mandated by SEGA. Right now, there's more low key Adventure pandering then any and all that Mania pandered to the fans. In fact, outside of Classic Sonic in Forces, without Mania, there wouldn't have been anything classic Sonic outside of some throwback levels in TSR (and the Sonic R "R" in the name). Tbqhf, classic Sonic was shilled by SoA, not SoJ. All that "classic fanwank" was purely by the American branch of SEGA. Literally all of the extra content for Mania was thanks to SoA and American fans alike desperately pushing for Mania to get the treatment it got (which it did deserved). As of >>15854, I'd like a source, but if this true, I'm half baffled and half empethic about this. On one hand, I don't hate them trying to not got too far dark for Sonic anymore, personal reasons, but them going as far as making him too family friendly makes me upset. He should keep his snarky energy he had since the 90s, not jokey, or full on shonen anime protag. But something in the middle I'd like, the problem is, he doen't have the right team to get this vision of his to work. On their side, it's gameplay and writing problems. But the second problem comes in the form of the fanbase wanting SA2 (yes, SA2 speifcally) tone back. But as it seems, Iizuka doesn't want to go back in fear of what it would do to the image of Sonic. The fans hate the casualizness of modern Sonic, but outsiders didn't at all, hence why Colors, Generations and Boom was appealing to them. But the modern fans want early 2000s Sonic, which outsiders mostly don't, or at least, not to the extreme the mid 2000s took it. I think SA1 in spades was the best take for the tone for Sonic. It's about as "epic" Sonic should ever get just to keep things simple. On record, the Advance games should be the standard tone, and escalations hit S3K/SA1 tones, no more. That, and of course, get someone to reimagine the gameplay SA1 Sonic started with. Reimagine a SA1 without the stipulation that it also had to be made as a tech demo for a 20 year old console, instead of being a fully realized Sonic game.

>>15854 On one hand I feel like I've seen some increase of them putting Adventure stuff in more places lately, but on the other hand I don't know if I could say there's a real increment. They have been trying to toss the Adventure fans bones every so often since forever, with all the remixes, live concerts, new CDs and other merch. So I don't think it's likely it actually means something, and I don't think they have the resources to toss into a project like that these days, but who knows. Maybe they'll do something similar to what they did with Boom and Mania and slowly paint the whole franchise with Adventure stuff and let it take over for a while. >they feel like Sonic's turned a corner towards where they wanna go I'm still not sure what the hell he means with that and I'm scared he could mean Classic exclusivity or something like that. Assuming they wanted to give an Adventure remake a shot, had they gotten their shit together come 1998 with the rights of the stuff they made so that such a remake has an ounce of hope? Does any part of it (or SA2) have any kind of legal issues like the previous games?

>>15857 Well, the interview mostly came from here: http://www.ladbible.com/technology/gaming-in-conversation-with-team-sonic-racing-producer-takashi-iizuka-20190430

>>15858 Nope, no legal mumbo jumbo whatsoever. Everything was done in-house and not outsourced, including the music. The only exception might be the SOAP shoes. The product placement on billboards and stuff has been nixed from re-releases, but Sonic still has the shoes. I'm not sure if SOAP has/had a trademark on that design or not.

>>15858 Well, they would have to pay royalties to Dreams Come True for Green Hill in SA2.

Kek

>>15860 Considering they sell Sonic plushies in Japan with those shoes, and how it also was in Forces for the Avatar, makes me think there's no legal problem.

>>15864 I don't think they're actually officially selling SOAP shoes Sonic plushies. You sometimes see them in promotions but I don't think they are available for purchase. It'd be great to see what the tags say on those to see if they have recently made some or if it's just old stock. Haven't seen the avatar shoes you mention, where they exactly the same or just a callback that was similar?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6hXzxN0Yggg >>15865 I one saw a Jap commersial (I think it was the first time they revealed they were going to use that new SEGA logo with the eye in their ads now) and there was a Crane Machine with Sonic plushies in it, some with Soap Shoes. But maybe that was old stock like you said or something. But as for Forces, this is the closest it's going to be to the original SA2 design. >2:55

FUCKING DIE Despite that these bosses are painful, it's interesting that they force you to have to understand in detail how they work and how to exploit their weaknesses to beat them. It's not so pronounced in other games, it's just a lot easier to understand how to avoid and inflict the damage in most cases.

>>15867 Interesting, they are actually pretty close.

>>15868 Hope you enjoy the upcoming boss rush!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GdSL9txCuxg >>15870 By some miracle I managed to realize that you could change the gravity very early, though I didn't figure out how to attack the boss properly and lost. Made my way back and beat it pretty easily, though, so it wasn't that bad, specially because the tune in Egg Utopia act 2 is quite nice. Last fight is kind of bullshit and lazy on their part and unfortunately I timed out fighting the last boss, kek.

>>15871 Pfft. Welp, have you tried to collect the Chaos Emeralds yet, anon?

>>15872 >have you tried to collect the Chaos Emeralds yet do you take me for some kind of masochist

>>15873 >do you take me for some kind of masochist What? You don't wanna unlock Amy Rose for collecting all 7 Emeralds with every character in the game?

TSSZ Interview with Iizuka: https://web.archive.org/web/20190520214224/https://www.sonicstadium.org/2019/05/tss-interview-takashi-iizuka-hints-at-dodon-pas-return-as-master-of-ceremonies/ Since Team Sonic Racing is coming out tomorrow, what platform do you guys plan on getting the game for? If you're getting the game at all, at least

>>15876 It is on PC right? There better be mod support for it.

>>15878 Yup. IIRC, it's on Switch/Steam/XBOXOne/PS4 I think it has Denuvo on Steam, but I last saw that a month ago. Dunno if it's there, now

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lCI733SAU9s News on Sonic Studio

>>15878 I bet you five bucks that the first mod will be a Cream the Rabbit skin for amy or something like that

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UJfgAyzQZlM >TSR coming out tomorrow >Graphics got a massive bump compared to initial reveal >Suddenly, this happens to the original All Star's Racing That's dirty.

>>15882 Talk about bad timing

>>15882 Oof. Well hey, at least Transformed is still on the up & up

>>15882 Jesus, Sonic really likes to jump in his car. Dumb rodent. Anyway, I had seen a video of Reshade on Crysis, apparently it's not real raytracing but global illumination or something like that. I don't think it looks that much better. I think you'll also be able to do the same thing with TSR since it's not a mod for a particular game that does this, just an external program.

>>15880 Holy shit this is great. Is this standalone or does it mod Mania? Man, either way it looks awesome!

>>15886 It's a fan made game made from the ground up, all by one guy (like most of these fan games tend to be really). I wished he'd get hired by Evening Star, it's just too much good talent here to go to waste.

>>15876 >“Fighting games is another example of a situation where if you pit a skilled player against someone not-so-skilled, one player is going to be easily defeated More than that he came to such an obvious realization, it bothers me that he thinks something should or could be done about it. But the worst part is that I feel this is commonplace in the industry. >And Iizuka confirmed that, while [Uekawa's] taking a more involved approach with regards to all Sonic projects God bless. Maybe that's the reason of the refined character models and poses. When was the last time Iizuka gave an interview to a fansite?

>>15887 Damn, that is just so cool in every damn aspect! It really looks like an actual product! >it's just too much good talent here to go to waste It's not wasted if he releases it!

Holy shit, look at this nerd. Don't you want to bully him?

>>15710 >>15713 You were correct!

>>15888 >More than that he came to such an obvious realization, it bothers me that he thinks something should or could be done about it. But the worst part is that I feel this is commonplace in the industry. Yeah, I actually got a Sakurai vibe out of that myself. I guess the days of arcady difficulty is dead. I mostly don't hate that, but I feel we've hit the opposite spectrum where it's braindead at times >God bless. Maybe that's the reason of the refined character models and poses. Good catch. I thought Sonic's ingame "cutscene" model looked so good compared to say, Forces model, for a reason. It looks on par if not better than Unleashed Sonic. Now if only they can go back to middle mouth instead of perma side mouth, that would be perfect

>>15893 >middle mouth Cringe. Kys immediately for your transgressions.

>>15894 Middle mouth is cute though

>>15895 It's shit, and it looks weird as fuck, especially in 3D.

>>15894 But anon, Mario and Sonic Olympic games already do it. So I'm already in the right. :^) I only want them to use it when Sonic is facing the camera directly. It looks so off when the side mouth is seen from the front imo…