>>10810 >How does one attain the post of ambassador without knowing what the fuck extraterritoriality is? There's a quote from a guy that worked in the Carter administration about how as he rose through the ranks of the public service he expected at some point to find the ultra-competent people running the show, but found that even at the highest levels of the public facing government it was the same mediocre people doing a half-assed job.

>>10810 The malcontents have known what they were doing for decades, arguably centuries. Keep in mind it's the same sub-cultural "elite" within the country with the same sub-cultural mindset committing to extraterritoriality that did the Imperial shit for cheap international profits at no benefit to the citizenry back in the day. The rest are useful idiots who think that being the "good guys" lets them commit crimes against humanity in the name of the greater good because of 30 years of Hollywood capeshit indoctrination and covering up Ally WWII atrocities (or flat out admitting to them and saying "it's a good thing").

>>10811 That's why the founding fathers designed the entire political system to be extremely inefficient and long over in America, but unfortunately the rules of government we play by today would make them turn in their graves.

>>10811 Why does that not even surprise me? >>10812 From what I've seen of the world, you're not wrong, but I don't quite see what that has to do with this ambassador being a retard.

>>10814 >but I don't quite see what that has to do with this ambassador being a retard. I didn't look at full context and thought anon was referring to a British diplomat which is sad because that was my post he quoted. It still kind of works in the sense that Myanmar is one of those weird countries where most of the population is culturally still in the 1600s just with modern firearms while the city folks this ambassador represent(ed) have been fully indoctrinated into Western mindsets over the last couple decades of "Burmese Westernification." You can see it in the PDF's shenanigans and terrorist bombings.

https://myanmar.liveuamap.com/ Apparently there's a live map for Myanmar, but it looks like Western journalists still can't get into the country so it only updates every few days or weeks. With summer approaching the conflicts should be ramping up. Also it looks like the Junta has changed its stand from "elections in 2022" to "guaranteed elections in 2023" to "we'll eventually have them once we kill the opposition" to nobody's surprise. I'm a little disappointed since it actually seemed like they would happen for a while there.

https://nitter.net/IrrawaddyNews/status/1531502970457956352 >May 31st: Junta forces dropped high-explosive bombs in an air raid on a People’s Defense Force base in Mingin, Sagaing Region on May 20, resistance forces said. Two female PDF medical troops died and at least 20 injuries were reported https://nitter.net/thinzashunleiyi/status/1527137499038253056 >Karen villagers fleeing & hiding from the Myanmar military jets bombing Lay Kay village, Thaton District, KarenState in April & early May.

Myanmar MiG-29 intruded into & open fired over Thailand's Tak region airspace https://nitter.net/RadioFreeAsia/status/1542649462065070081 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NpwfnV9s878

>>10818 You could say Thayland was aTAKed.

>>10589 >As for China i doubt an actual war will happen, considering the military government will become/is an international pariah they'll have no option but ask for Chinese suzerainty. They look like screw-ups, and may provoke at least one of the neighbors. While the economy is still in the ass. Conversely, if the puppets win and invite NATO, China will react the same way as Russia did. Especially considering NATO did not contest grabbing Taiwan at all. The third option is civil war. The end result is much the same, except this time China won't bother with genocide, as they will do it themselves.

>>10772 Not bad, but the farmers weren't at the bottom of the hierarchy. They were ranked above artisans, who were ranked above merchants, who were really at the bottom (unless you count hinin, non-persons who had no standing). Over the course of the Edo Period, the merchants built up lots of wealth & power despite formally being in the lowest rank, and many samurai were indebted to them. Farmers may have been better off than before, but hard times still hit them disproportionately.

So it seems China has officially endorsed Myanmar and given them their facial recognition technology to deal with rebel elements. It's been effective enough that the UN security council officially condemned the Myanmar Junta because their forces of "freedom and democracy™" are losing. I think Myanmar is shaping up to become the next US proxy war between America and China (with Indian support against the Chinese) in order to draw attention off of Taiwan (or to act as punishment if Taiwan is embargoed/invaded) given these recent events. Article talking about the Chinese facial recognition software: https://archive.ph/p2qbF UN Security Council thing: https://archive.ph/VSpDz "Illegal" protests happened, but clearly they no longer have any teeth since the military/police didn't even beat anyone (which has been standard Junta policy up until this point) suggesting the protesters have stopped getting violent: https://archive.ph/5HzBN

It seems Lavrov spent the majority of his day in Myanmar between a military helicopter ride and in private arms dealings in the Junta strongholds. At the same time Myanmar is experiencing rampant inflation so they have allowed workers to retain 35% of their earnings as foreign currency to encourage currency competition to prop back up the Kyat. https://archive.ph/IFmrh

Apparently Biden's getting ready to sign an $850 billion defense budget deal that includes officially aligning with the NUG (rebel forces) in Myanmar. There was apparently supposed to be a vote by the UN security council on whether to sanction Myanmar today that Russia and China seemed "receptive" to but there hasn't been any further news on that despite the meeting allegedly having happened today. Russian news isn't reporting on it either. As a refresher, Myanmar is a major exporter of ore, oil, and jade to China, and a major importer of weapons from Russia.

>>10770 this, that post is wildly biased against Buddhism. The historical reality is that Buddhism and Shinto fused in Japan so there's lots of overlap. Overall, it's a based religion, not without its militancy as he said, but it tends to lack the fundamentalism and chimping out we've seen from Abrahamic religions. >>10776 this is accurate. The doctrine of 'skillful means' is relevant: you're allowed to kill in order to defend yourself and prevent greater violence, and to protect the aggressor from his own negative karma. Defending the Sangha (religious community) is also important and relevant to this.

>>10750 Based, the Muslims are invaders in the region and mainland SEA (with the exception of the comie areas) is all Buddhism has left nya~

>>10824 Any updates on this? Or to begin with, did the situation change, or is it still at the stage where soldiers shoot up random protests?

I'm reading more and more reports of fathers being part of rebel NUG-aligned forces while their sons are joining the Junta. Usually it's the other way around which makes this interesting that it seems to only be the middle-aged generations >>10827 Not directly, but suddenly NUG-aligned forces have been launching attacks on the Junta again with heavier equipment such as artillery that they did not previously own, suggesting that the funding is at work. https://www.barrons.com/news/one-dead-after-myanmar-rebels-attack-provincial-celebration-junta-01673793309 https://www.foxnews.com/world/myanmar-air-strike-destroys-2-villages-inhabited-ethnic-ethnic-rebel-forces-kills-5

>>10828 The interpretation I've been seeing with the generation gap is that pre-conflict, the military was considered a good job. Secure, well-paid, relatively comfortable; a better career than a laborer or farmer, so something to encourage your kids to do and be proud of. Then when the conflict started the parents opposed to things the Junta was doing, while the younger people who had been joining were tending to keep riding the career.

The Burmese junta has decided to put Aung San Suu Kyi under house arrest for life instead of leaving the old woman in prison for life, likely in deference to her late father who was a junta ally and/or in deference to the illegal KNU gambling rings. The NUG has fallen into obscurity because stability is more important to Myanmar normalfags than liberty. The Karens (KNU) are still at it and seem to have formed a military junta "of democracy" to oppose the Junta with the NUG (national unity government) piggybacking off their success but ultimately being irrelevant, but they have been struggling after it came to light that they were getting their money to fight the war against the Burmese Junta by their political leadership running illegal gambling rings for the Junta (they have since been ousted). The Junta outlawed political parties back in March which has made it near-impossible for upstart pro-democracy (NLD) groups to make an impact on the elections, but elections are allegedly to be held still at "some point."

>>10830 >made it near-impossible for upstart pro-(((democracy))) [] groups Glowniggers must be seething, what with their favorite sham being defanged.

>>10830 Any interesting guns seen in use since the FGC-9 showed up?

Rebels have now taken two Chinese border crossings.

>>10832 Not really. Not that I can think of. It's all cobbled-together crap. Junta is mostly "losing" in areas because they can't be everywhere at once and the only thing that kept soldiers in (the shit economy) is a careful balance. Damned if the economy is good because nobody wants to be a soldier, damned if the economy is bad because then the soldiers know they won't get fed properly and will have to torture people (even bugmen don't like torture by default).

China wants Myanmar's Eastern border to have direct access to Thailand, apparently. They've started giving money/weapons to the NUG via their Wa state imperialist project in order to destabilize the border which is straining relations with the junta and doubling by harassing Thailand (China hates Thailand). Likely over the junta cracking down on Chinese jade smuggling in the North.

It should also be noted that the only reason Wa state exists as an autonomous zone is so that the local military can smuggle opiates and methamphetamine to various political classes around Asia/America, so this could be the straw that breaks the camel's back when opium prices skyrocket again for Americans. It also explains the real reason doctors have been avoiding prescribing opiates since the two large-scale producers (Myanmar and Afghanistan) aren't producing.

>>10835 >China hates Thailand Is that a relatively new development

>>10837 It's complicated. Thailand was never really China's friend in modern times, but they swapped from the ROC over to West Taiwan in the 70s for trade reasons. After Thailand got what they wanted from China they basically treated them like a nuisance from the 90s onward. China has to save face because Thai relations got them this far, and if they openly mock Thailand then the Thais will retaliate in-turn and fuck up Chinese maritime trade/energy production. Thai public officials put up with with the Chinese economically, but hate their guts culturally, so China needs a shared border with Thailand to prevent America from further cozying up to them further. Thais hate Americans too (albeit significantly less because Americans aren't their version of illegal immigrants the way the Chinese are), but they try to balance China and America the same way the Koreans do.

>>10838 >hate their guts culturally, >Thais hate Americans too Damn, could you elaborate on these parts too? I am now realizing that I know nothing about Southeast Asian attitudes. And if we are here, do you know anything about the attitudes of various groups in Myanmar towards international players? It seems to be sort of an ”ancap” trading with anyone for anything who is willing to pay kind of thing, and I heard that there are Japanese businessmen who invest in the region, but maybe I'm missing something here.

>>10839 >Damn, could you elaborate on these parts too? I can try, but I'm not a native and have only so much exposure to them. Thai were originally from Guangxi China about 1300 years ago and were chased out to the swamps which is already a minor source of asshurt, but the Thai see themselves as something of the "successors of China" while Chinese see Thai as backwoods inbred hillbillies that have usually been too much of a pain in the ass to conquer due to all the swamps. Prior to WWII, Thailand was constantly pushing out China's proxies/satellite nations to the south who were after cheap mining resources and natural resources that were abundant in their backwoods country. They fought off the Chinese so many times that they didn't have the manpower when the British invaded and so they basically said "yeah sure, whatever, you can be in charge we're just going to ignore you anyways" which royally pissed off the Brits. During WWII, Thailand sided with Japan mainly because they didn't give a shit about the conflict and Japan happened to be the closest superpower. This caused unprecedented asshurt among the British who considered themselves the owners of Thailand, and America was basically the only thing standing between Thailand and Britain ass-raping Thailand back to the stone age after the war. Britain couldn't argue with America because of Americans winning the war for them, so they had to begrudgingly give up their Thai colonies. Because of this, Americans became an ally of convenience for Thailand even though they considered the Americans to be equivalent to the British since the Americans had a sense of honor still until about the 1960s. The Americans brought chemical fertilizers to Thailand which allowed their city populations to absolutely explode at a level that makes the American baby boom look like a Saturday night at the bar without protection. During the Cold War period, Communist China did what they do best and constantly forced their proxies to invade Thailand to try and take land, but because of American guns and aforementioned chemical fertilizers leading to population explosion, the Thais kept curbstomping the Indochinese (Laos, Vietnam, Cambodia) and Burmese militants whenever they'd invade. Since Thai people kind of are hicks though they just went home when the fighting was done after raping a few bitches and killing the men. Thailand hated the Chinese as much as they hated the French, so they primarily stayed out of all the wars during the 50s-70s period unless America got involved. The second America got involved though, Thailand tended to jump on-board as well. This would have been ok except the Americans were experimenting with chemical agents/land mines and royally fucked up Thailand's Eastern border. This has been a cause of intergenerational asshurt towards Americans who refused to take responsibility for decades. In the 70s, Thailand was dealing with a bunch of crap from pro-democracy folks the way Myanmar is now and the pro-democracy crowd hated America because of their wars in Indochina. The king placated them by recognizing West Taiwan over the Republic of China and establishing economic ties with the communists. He also threw out some of the military leaders in favor of lawyers who were loyal to his side. This placated the mentally defective portion of Thai society and the industrial half of Thai society begrudgingly agreed to the arrangement since they figured maybe China had finally turned a new leaf. Instead, Thailand got Chinese colonialism which destroyed the working man's ability to earn money while the Chinese passed out communist propaganda to said people they were disenfranchising which created a bigger and bigger Chinese-lead "pro-democracy" movement in Thailand until finally the military was fed up with China's shit and had a "bloodless" coup in 2006 where they told Thai parliament to fuck off, told the king to fuck off, and formed a pro-monarchy faction that could not be voted out of power by the democratic institutions allowed to stay in place post-coup. This has lead to political instability in the country for the last two decades but Western nations won't acknowledge it because Thailand is nominally an ally. As of right now, China is allowed to run infrastructure projects because it's keeping the peace, but most Thai people see Chinese as illegal immigrants trying to take their jobs. The pro-democracy parts of Thailand hate the military junta who haphazardly manages to hold onto power while navigating murky waters, and the pro-monarchy party is losing influence, but still maintains a slim majority on power. The pro-democracy parties hate America because of Chinese propaganda while the military and monarchy hates China for finally managing to accomplish what they couldn't for the entirety of the 19th and 20th centuries (colonization of Thailand). China can't use their "colonialist oppressor" narrative on the Thai the way they do with Europeans because Thailand has a long history of kicking their shit in for trying to colonize their country, so they have to rely on economic diplomacy. The issue is a lot of Thai billionaires who have been in exile since the military coup are starting to come back to the country and undo Chinese propaganda for the last three decades with the power of money by cozying up to the junta which has China's panties in a twist since the Thai government could replace China with said billionaires and hire locally to finish the infrastructure projects, which is why China now wants a shared border with Thailand to put pressure on the country militarily. >And if we are here, do you know anything about the attitudes of various groups in Myanmar towards international players? The pro-democracy folks like the British and Americans, but they'll take weapons from anyone which is why they're currently accepting Chinese support since the British only gave them "thoughts and prayers" thinking they'd be crushed by the Junta in a year. The pro-junta folks are kind of a Nationalist-Corporatist entity in the sense that they are in central control of most of Myanmar's staple goods beer, rice, etc. ran through corporations where the junta are the majority shareholders, but they'll trade with anyone who wants to do business with them. However, they are Khmer Rouge-levels of brutal iron fist which isolates them from most of the Western world who wants an easier-to-control puppet state in that region. Because of this, China and Russia are their only real allies since the two also share an attitude of not giving too many shits so long as it benefits everyone economically. As mentioned earlier though, the Burmese military cracked down on smuggling so now Chinese billionaires are ass-ravaged that they aren't getting jade rocks at a severe discount, and since corruption in China relies on the gifting economy to avoid detection, this in turn means the CCP is angry at the junta for making it harder to be bribed by Chinese billionaires using jade and gold statues and jewelry. Most of the other Asian countries are trying to stay out of Myanmar because it's more trouble than it's worth, but they aren't going to give up their assets to the state junta unless said assets stop turning a profit/potential future profit. Everyone was ok with the junta arrangement until this most recent coup because Myanmar's situation was similar to Thailand, and most of them are only upset about the coup because it represents instability in the market which is hurting their oil shares. >and I heard that there are Japanese businessmen who invest in the region, but maybe I'm missing something here. During the bubble economy, Japan saw the housing market collapse coming and diversified their assets into all the neighboring Asian countries using government subsidies that were meant to allow for "Japanese economic colonization" abroad. The Japanese businessmen who did so were able to successfully navigate the domestic "pop" when the bubble economy collapsed. Japan has a large number of shares in Myanmar's brewing, rice, and oil industries because of this. Funnily enough, this is also why there are large number of Japanese businesses in Central and South America. >I am now realizing that I know nothing about Southeast Asian attitudes They can vaguely be split into three categories: >We hate America because of Vietnam and abandoning Cambodia >We dislike America, but we hate China significantly more because of their bullshit over the last thousand years which was ramped up to 11 under the CCP >Super powers gonna fight lemme just drink my beer and eat my fermented fish paste in peace brah, yeah sure heil Hitler or Mao or whoever the fuck you fags have in power right now

>>10840 >Thais haiting China There's one other thing that's also a big issue is what China pulled with Laos with the "demarcation" treaty in 1953 and again 90s. Basically, the origin "heartland" of the Lao people where they first fucked outa China is currently Sipsong Banna/Sibsongpanna/Xishuangbanna in Yunnan. There was a (partally) Chinese warlord in the post-Qing who tried to seceed because he realized that the Sun Yat Sun "Five (ethnic) groups under one banner"* didn't include the bunch of groups in the area and wanted indepdenence. In the 1953 the demarcation the demarcated the border but Zhou Enlai (Foreign Minister of the PRC) swapped a bunch of "useless" (not well habited land) for what is now parts of Banna that was considered the origin of the Lao people and historically one of their major priests with threat of force. This was confirmed in the 1990s treaty. Basically what it means is that China can just get some motherfucker to claim to be the spirtual leader of one of the many Lao tribes and cause ethnic strife between the groups or just claim Laos was "Chinese afterall" if they wanted. *Five groups under one banner is a Sun Yat-Sen thought of the "proper" ethnic groups in China. Han, Mongol, Manchu, Tibetans, Hui. After Sun's death and Chiang's Northern Expedition it fell into obscurity because: 1) The Manchu didn't matter becuase they weren't running the show in northern China (Fengian clique was) until the Japanese came in and installed Puyi again. 2) The Mongols fucked off and seperated into now (outer) Mongolia (Some of the major bands in Inner Mongolia would fight a long insurgency as Meijiang with the Japanese) 3) The Tibetans fucked off since it was a technical vassal state 4) The Hui were "semi-autonmous" (A state within a state) and really only held along because it was better than the Qing or the communists

>>10840 > The pro-junta folks are kind of a Nationalist-Corporatist entity in the sense that they are in central control of most of Myanmar's staple goods beer, rice, etc. ran through corporations where the junta are the majority shareholders, but they'll trade with anyone who wants to do business with them. How does teak (the wood) for maintenance of our national treasures fit into this resource control?

>>10840 >pic Sometimes the comment section can be a useful thing even on the boorus.

Get CHINA out of Myanmar

>>10840 The blonde one has a penis, doesn't "she"?

>>10845 100% certified girl Strelok. I can understand the confusion though given the flag. She might not be best girl but she wins best personality participation trophy.