>>986570 >Frederick Wertham Let's check out who this guy was. I already have decent knowledge on the guy, but might as well do a bit of digging. >Wertham was born Friedrich Ignatz Wertheimer on March 20, 1895, in Nuremberg to the middle-class (((Jewish))) family of Sigmund and Mathilde Wertheimer. Of course. >University of Calgary professor Bart Beaty, the only person allowed access to Wertham's personal papers before they were unsealed in 2010, reveals that Wertham tried in 1959 to sell a follow-up to Seduction of the Innocent concerning the effects of television on children, to be titled The War on Children. Much to Wertham's frustration, no publishers were interested in publishing it. >After Wertham's manuscript collection at the Library of Congress was unsealed in 2010, Carol Tilley, a University of Illinois librarian and information science professor, investigated his research and found his conclusions to be largely baseless. In a 2012 study, Tilley wrote "Wertham manipulated, overstated, compromised, and fabricated evidence—especially that evidence he attributed to personal clinical research with young people—for rhetorical gain." >Among the criticisms leveled at Seduction of the Innocent are that Wertham used a non-representative sample of young people who were already mentally troubled, that he misrepresented stories from colleagues as being his own, and that Wertham manipulated statements from adolescents by deliberately neglecting some passages while rephrasing others such that they better suited his thesis. Fucking kike lied and ruined comics for prestige, and also almost did the same to TV. He's like a proto Anita Sarkeesian. >Wertham always denied that he favored censorship or had anything against comic books in principle, Even pulled the "we aren't trying to take your toys away" card. >>986571 All this comic lore feels so insane, it's something Spanish soap operas could only dream of. >>986575 Ah, didn't notice my trips.

>>986575 They fused into the same person but this resulted in a new history that took elements from both and discarded others. Dating Wonder Woman was discarded. At that point, he never remembered that he was previously two guys. He never remembered that half of him was from an alternate timeline. But presumably he remembers that now. Now that he already remembered two different histories from before the Crisis on Infinite Earths, so this is not anything new for him. He, and basically every other important character, remembers at least three different versions of history. Here's basically how it goes... >About 16 years ago: Superman's first appearance >Every story published between 1938 (first appearance of Superman) and 1960 (first appearance of Justice League) happens in the next year, except for things that are specifically said to have only happened on Earth-Two, or were erased after the Crisis on Infinite Earths, Zero Hour, Infinite Crisis, Flashpoint, or Superman: Reborn. Major events that would go in this year include... >Superman appears, along with his major villains, including Luthor >Batman appears, along with his major villains. Robin (Dick Grayson) also appears. >Wonder Woman appears. Luckily she doesn't have any good villains to make things even more complicated. >Green Arrow appears, along with sidekick, Speedy (Roy Harper). >Much closer to the formation of the Justice League, and thus later in the year, I suppose, Superman and Batman team up for the first time. >Batwoman (Kathy Kane) appears. This won't be important for a long time, but it will be important eventually. >Martian Manhunter (J'onn J'onzz), Flash (Barry Allen), and Green Lantern (Hal Jordan) appear, in that order. >Aquaman appears. Just recently DC finally bothered to acknowledge that Earth-Two Aquaman was a different guy (which was always implied but never really dealt with), which means the first appearance of modern Aquaman (Arthur Curry) would take place around here, after all the other founding members of the Justice League. >About 15 years ago: The Justice League is formed >Every story published between 1960 (first Justice League story) and 1986 (Crisis on Infinite Earths) happens, except for particular ones that got erased by history by the Crisis, Zero Hour, Infinite Crisis, Flashpoint, or Superman: Reborn. In-universe, nine years pass. Major events that happen in these nine years include... >First appearance of Hawkman (Katar Hol. Actually, Fel Andar pretending to be Katar Hol. Hawkman continuity is too fucked even for this post). >First appearance of The Atom (Ray Palmer) >First appearance of Elongated Man (Ralph Dibny) >First appearance of Kid Flash (Barry Allen, later to become regular Flash) >First appearance of Aqualad >First appearance of Doom Patrol (notably includes Beast Boy) >First crossover of the Justice League and Justice Society. (Everyone's memories of the Justice Society were erased after Flashpoint, but they got those memories back later.) >First appearance of the Teen Titans (Robin, Speedy, Kid Flash, Aqualad, Wonder Girl, who first appears in this story due to the writer not realizing the previous Wonder Girl was Wonder Woman in the past). (Everyone's memories of the original Teen Titans were erased after Flashpoint, but they got them back later.) >That story where Zatanna erased the villains' memories (and also Batman's. And also Dr. Light raped Sue Dibny.) >The New Teen Titans form (old guys + Starfire, Raven, Cyborg, Beast Boy) >Robin becomes Nightwing >Batman gets a new Robin (Jason Todd) >About 6 years ago: The Crisis On Infinite Earths, AKA The Red Skies Crisis (as it's known in universe). This changes history, so some things that happened previously never happened anymore. But make no mistake, history still continues. People remember The Red Skies Crisis as being a thing that happened, along with most previous events. It's established that in-universe Superman first appeared ten years before The Crisis on Infinite Earths, so all stories before this took place in ten years.

>Everything between The Crisis on Infinite Earths (1986) and Flashpoint (2011) happens. This is fucked up because it includes so many major events, such as... >Batgirl (Barbara Gordon) is shot and crippled) >The Justice League of America breaks up and is soon replaced with the Justice League International. >Robin (Jason Todd) is killed >Batman gets a third Robin (Tim Drake) >Superman dies and then comes back to life (whole story is like a year and a half of comics, but takes place in only two weeks). >An evil Superman who tried to take the real Superman's place when he was dead destroys Green Lantern's home of Coast City, making Green Lantern go crazy and try to destroy the timestream and rewrite it as he sees fit. This is called Zero Hour: A Crisis in Time. >A new Green Lantern (Kyle Rayner) showed up. >The original Justice League of America reforms. Barry Allen and Kyle Rayner replace Barry Allen (dead) and Hal Jordan (evil). An angel named Zauriel replaces Hawkman (continuity so fucked DC said just to not use him). >Hal Jordan sacrifices himself to save the world from the Sun Eater. >The Spectre goes crazy after his previous host, Jim Corrigan, is allowed to go to heaven, so Hal Jordan bonds with him and becomes the new Spectre. >Gotham is completely destroyed by an earthquake. The US government gives up and abandons it. Lex Luthor rebuilds it. >Luthor is elected president. >Our Worlds At War. Imperiex comes to destroy reality. It's portrayed as the biggest war since The Crisis on Infinite Earths. And I'm skipping Armageddon and many invasions by Darkseid. >Identity Crisis happens. Jean Loring kills Sue Dibny. Batman learns Zatanna messed with his mind, starts building evil spy satellites. >President Luthor is impeached. >Blue Beetle dies. >Hal Jordan comes back to life and becomes a Green Lantern again. >Infinite Crisis happens. Everyone remembers the old history that was changed by the Crisis on Infinite Earths. They still remember the new history. Now they remember both. >"52." A whole year passes. Superman, Batman, and Wonder Woman take a year off. >Sinestro Corps War happens. Green Lantern's nemesis, Sinestro, makes an army of evil Green Lanterns and invades Earth. >Final Crisis. Darkseid finally gets the Anti-Life Equation and takes over the world, almost destroying the universe. Actually he's just one small part of a villain called Mandrakk who almost destroys all of existence, including real life. Oh yeah, Batman dies here. >Nightwing becomes the new Batman. Damian Wayne becomes the new Robin. Tim Drake becomes Red Robin. >Blackest Night: Every character who ever died, including those who already came back to life, becomes a zombie. >Turns out Batman wasn't really dead, he just got shot back in time. He gets back somewhere around here. >Brightest Day: Follow up to Blackest Night where a bunch of characters come back to life. >About a year and a half ago: Flashpoint After Flashpoint, they established that in this new history, Superman first appeared five years before Flashpoint, and the Justice League appeared like six months after Superman. This is completely fucked, because so many major events happened in this timeframe and are still canon. >Everything between Flashpoint (2011) and Superman: Reborn (2017) happens. This includes... >Brainiac taking over the world at least twice. >The Crime Syndicate of Earth 3 invades and takes over the world for a while. >Pre-Flashpoint Brainiac threatens the entire multiverse with a tournament between every continuity ever because he saw the video game, Injustice 2 and hated it so much he threw a hissy fit about alternate universes and decided there could be only one. >Darkseid fights The Anti-Monitor over The Anti-Life Equation. They both die (don't worry, they get better) and the Justice League (which includes Lex Luthor at the moment) all become the Gods of the Fifth World, but it doesn't last long. >Superman Reborn This story changes history so that Superman first appeared about 15 years ago. That gives much more time for events to have happened, and is the basic guide I'm using here. Also, I remember some stories immediately after Superman: Reborn, like Supergirl, mentioning that events that happened just after Flashpoint, like Supergirl arriving on Earth, were only about six months previous. So those six years between Flashpoint and Reborn were six months in universe. >Everything since Superman: Reborn happens. Actually I have no idea how much time has passed in universe since then, but I'm gonna assume it's about a year. Could be less.

>>986496 The funny thing about this, is that DC comics literally made a super villain who main motivation was rape the last image are real unedited comic panels

>>986595 Funny stuff about that last image. Dr. Light asks Green Arrow if he has been raped. The answer is yes. Green Arrow's son is the product of the time he got raped by a supervillain. Feminists get mad over the Sue Dibny thing, saying it's offensive to women, but really male characters get raped way more often than female characters in comics. Nightwing alone must have been raped at least three or four times. And I'm not even talking about when he was a little boy who lived with Batman. Also, Dr. Light mentions stealing Dr. Hoshi's powers. He's referring to the second Dr. Light, a female hero created in the Crisis on Infinite Earths. At first she was quite unrelated, story-wise, to the original Dr. Arthur Light, but she did have similar powers and costume. So in that page there he refers to stealing her powers. Post-Flashpoint, history was changed so that they were married. Arthur Light was not a supervillain. But then he got his memories back or something and turned into a raper again.

>>986595 Reminder that in one timeline he raped Billy Batson to death.

>>986581 we can all have kazurin's balls because the faggot probably had them chopped off by now

PSwG Season 2 was unveiled recently https://xcancel.com/trigger_inc/status/1808878641973248097 Zoomers are already finding reasons to be offended https://xcancel.com/beelbzub/status/1808891622899294208

>>986572 >one time Darkseid kidnapped Superman and Big Barda, the wife of Darkseid's adopted son, Mr. Miracle, then forced them to make a sex tape so he could show it to Mr. Miracle and break his spirit. But still, don't feel bad for Lois. >Darkseid of all people doing this The good ol' days before 9/11.

Meh I guess I will become a regular poster of this thread then, not many anons are posting in the lounge thread. Also sorry what happened last time in regards to my board. Maybe I am truly too autistic being able to talk with people, it's so over. >>986627 What happened?

>>986627 https://archive.is/8ecwj https://archive.is/GgGov https://archive.is/g7bFi This Kaz? Are you even in the right thread? What the fuck are you talking about?

>>986629 >>986628 You know he's hunting for (you)s, right?

>>986629 Kazu was a former mod of 8chan and used to own the /digi/ board back on 8chan but a lot of shit happened and he quit and now he is all bunkered up on zzzchan instead. >>986630 He doesn't look malicious to me.

So, did the commies win in england? how long until they rejoin the EU?

>>986634 The commies won in England 14 years ago, the new ones are just more honest about it.

>>986635 Fair enouth. Besides, communism is an english invention. Or specifically, the invention of a german jew studying in england. That's why Lutherans and anglos in general are the same as jews.

Sad event for brits. I think their country is hopelessly lost now, given that their new commie, trotskyist leader will certainly import another ten million freedom-hating africans. There'll be too many morons and non-whites in the country by the next election. >btw, danmachi waifu poll >https://strawpoll.com/eNg69GWDAnA

>>986639 tbh nothing of value will be lost, they dug their own grave, all inbreeds anyways but then i do have a biased against brits because of Eve Online.

>>986639 >Conservative party defeated in Britain If only the conservatives didn't import millions of immigrants, implement horrific covid lockdowns, and become a far left party. I AM SHOCKED conservatives didn't vote to keep them.

>>986348 Thank you, Texas-Chan!

>>986622 >recently It's been two years, a promotional png isn't really an unveiling.

>>986622 I thought "Season 2" was an end-of-series joke by ending on a cliffhanger from a completely unforeshadowed twist that'd never be resolved.

>>986575 >Consistent with the memories and experiences of all Lmao. Until it isn't which causes reality to unravel again until the next big reset.

>>986622 >>986660 >>986661 >Two years since the announcement >Not even 2 frames of animation to show the public, just a png Anons, it's still a joke. They've been pulling people's legs for ages since the show ended, but people got too wise to it, so now they're trying even harder by making their fake announcements look more official.

>>986448 Yes my girlfriend race is a spider mecha what about it?

>>986570 >There are many non-capeshit comics on the stands, and have been for a long time, but fans and general audiences came to associate comics with superheroes, and so only expect and look for superheroes. Because people never advertise them. Or ruin the entire point by canonically tying them in with company's larger multiverse. And even with the series that DON'T do that, they ruin themselves in other ways such as constantly rotating writers/artists or have innumerable sequels/prequels/spin-offs that it makes it a mess to navigate the story. >>986632 >and used to own the /digi/ board back on 8chan but a lot of shit happened and he quit and now he is all bunkered up on zzzchan instead. Didn't he throw a shitfit when people told him to stop encouraging the literal fucking child that was posting on /digi/? >>986654 Speaking of which, what was the big deal about Margaret Thatcher? Whenever I see any normalfag Bong talking about it, it's almost with a disdain because she was, "Literally worse than Hidler".

>>986588 >>986589 And people wonder why everyone just reads manga.

>>986630 >Didn't he throw a shitfit when people told him to stop encouraging the literal fucking child that was posting on /digi/? Maybe, I can't remember anymore all the details what happened in /digi/ back then and I really don't care now, those 2 people john and dejiko consider me as a persona non grata now.

>>986348 Thank you, Texas-Chan!

>>986668 >Lmao. Until it isn't which causes reality to unravel again until the next big reset. No, they have that covered. What it is is that they remembered all the different versions of history that have ever been changed or erased, but the last one is still the main one. I should note that when I say "different versions," I don't mean alternate universes or timelines unless the particular character is literally an immigrant from that alternate reality. So characters from Earth-Two, like say Alan Scott (the original Green Lantern), remember Earth-Two, but characters who only have a doppelganger on Earth-Two, like say Superman, do not remember Earth-Two, because they never actually lived there. Well they remember that it existed, but he doesn't have Earth-Two Superman's memories. Anyway, if new plot holes pop up, then they'll deal with them. But honestly regular old plot-holes are pretty rare. Usually the plot holes are the result of when they change history, which ironically is always an attempt to make things simpler. If they just stopped doing that, things would be a lot simpler. Also, by this point, when plot-holes do happen, they're at the point where they can literally say that it's due to reality being broken due to all the times history has changed. Then they do another event to try to fix it, only to find out later that it only made things worse again. >Because people never advertise them. Or ruin the entire point by canonically tying them in with company's larger multiverse. And even with the series that DON'T do that, they ruin themselves in other ways such as constantly rotating writers/artists or have innumerable sequels/prequels/spin-offs that it makes it a mess to navigate the story. This is largely true, though it should be noted that they don't advertise comics period. Most casuals probably don't realize that new comics even get published. The only time they hear about them is when they hear about the fucked up SJW shit that is happening, and that probably doesn't even register as being the same continuity as old comics that people actually like (and casuals still don't read anyway). There are indie comics, like say The Walking Dead, that are relatively simple without prequels and spinoffs (in the comics, at least), but the way they're published is still confusing. Like you can buy the individual issues of The Walking Dead (Volume 1), #1-200 or whatever. Here, "Volume 1" will refer to all the issues that have numbers that don't repeat. If they ever did another "The Walking Dead #1," then that would be "Volume 2." Or you can buy the collections which are generally six issues each, and here "Volume 1" will refer to the collection of issues 1-6, and Volume 2 refers to issues 7-12. Or you can get those giant collections which contain like 24 issues each, and here "Volume 1" will refer to issues 1-24, and Volume 2 refers to 25-48. It's no wonder people can't understand this shit. As for tying things in with the larger multiverse, I don't think it's a problem when it's a bunch of standalone short stories, or if it's a connection that happens later but doesn't matter to the story itself. Like Jonah Hex has hundreds of stories of being a cowboy, and then there are a couple involving time travel. You can skip them and not notice anything. Or the original Suicide Squad was from a war comic, and later in the DCU they said that the Suicide Squad was canon in their past, and they made a new Suicide Squad. But you can read all the original Suicide Squad stories, and the rest of the DCU doesn't matter. >Speaking of which, what was the big deal about Margaret Thatcher? Whenever I see any normalfag Bong talking about it, it's almost with a disdain because she was, "Literally worse than Hidler". Those aren't normalfags, they're the far left. Thatcher was economically conservative and shut down a bunch of shit, like coal mines, which of course hurt the people and communities most related to them. As far as I know she did it because the things weren't profitable. (I'm not even from there.) But people have to remember that in the late '70s the UK was having blackouts because their infrastructure was falling apart like South Africa. There's a reason Thatcher was elected and did what she did.

>>986715 >No, they have that covered. <Anyway, if new plot holes pop up, then they'll deal with them. But honestly regular old plot-holes are pretty rare. Usually the plot holes are the result of when they change history, which ironically is always an attempt to make things simpler. If they just stopped doing that, things would be a lot simpler. Also, by this point, when plot-holes do happen, they're at the point where they can literally say that it's due to reality being broken due to all the times history has changed. Then they do another event to try to fix it, only to find out later that it only made things worse again. You just said I was wrong, then repeated a longer version of what I said.

>>986718 No, the key point is that they already have a built-in system to explain plotholes. They're due to reality itself literally being broken by all the reality-breaking events before. The most notable examples of this being cited in-continuity would be when they explained that many changes in history between Zero Hour and Infinite Crisis were due to Superboy-Prime literally punching reality and causing it to crack. There's a built-in system to explain plot holes, so they're never plot holes now.

>>986719 Yes. I do not disagree with that. It's what I'm describing. It's simply laughable that they claim it's consistent in the story, when in reality, it isn't and they just explain any consistency away as part of the reality bending fuckery until once again there's too much of it and once again they "reset" it to be "consistent".

>>986720 >any consistency inconsistency*

>>986572 >Earth-Three, Earth-3, and Earth 3 <Are all technically different >Earth -1 (note the space, it's a minus, not a dash) whyyyyy. You pop quiz me on this shit I'm failing. Marvel knew they were being retarded with their multiverse shenanigans but they had a much better system of "Everything has a number, that's it, no fancy tric... >the marvel wiki has 616B and 616 Beta listed as universes >616B only exists because of Spiderverse There are times where I truly despise comics, the comics industry and their consequences have been a disaster for the human race. Take me back to the good old days where I could just play mahvel and not have to worry about what timeline it's part of. Don't get me wrong /co/-autist, I mostly enjoy reading your essays demonstrating how knowledgeable you are on DC but DC is severely fucked up sometimes, for any individual writers to make these contradictory decisions that their successors have to fix with their own contradictory decisions, it's baffling there's something still vaguely functioning after all that. Is it possible for a medium to be more autistic than comics? A large part of comic autism is longevity, but I don't think anything else close to DC/Marvel's lifespans have this level of continuity issues crop up except maybe Sonic which is just hilariously mismanaged itself. >>986726 Nah you were right the first time, they'll explain away consistency anyways because reality fuckery lol. And of course behind the scenes it's really "mom said it's my turn to dictate the canon and I didn't like the last guy's work".