>>5396 Here's a bunch of camo tests that I've found useful for seeing how different behave. https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PL3khfSiedNsg0jWLjaxxU0beGSCzZJbAa

I have some questions for operators which I am struggling with. When you are on patrol in areas with a large temperature swing (-2 to 20) how to you deal with undershirts? If I wear my thermals at night when the morning comes I'm fucking baking and I can't remove them- if I don't I've only got my field jacket all night. How do you manage clammy feet if you cant remove your boots? I've tried commercial powders, wood ash calcifying, acidifying, every type of sock. After two days bacteria grow and blistering starts, by four days i'v got surface infections- last time i did a week my feet swelled up so badly i needed a medic and it was fucking embarrassing. how do you put on a poncho quietly? how do you vent heat if you're wearing a carrier and rig? things learned: use a dirty undershirt to absorb sweat between you back and pack if you dont have an air gap, use an undershirt taliban style to keep bugs off your face when sleeping- just pull the eye slots up/down, in a sandstorm breath through you nose or ideally if covered through your mouth and use your tongue to only inhale through the top of your mouth

>>5398 I just wear wool, it stays warm even if it gets wet. Wicks sweat alright. >poncho Obtain one that isn't plastic, I have one of those Luhkas from the vtower and its fairly silent when throwing over the usual load. >boot problem Its how you're wearing your socks, If its possible wool and have the sock sitting above where you tie your boot. If done right it does draw out the sweat. Plan accordingly because you should be stopping and letting things air out. >carrier I'm a Y-Strap guy, but the times I have worn a carrier its been a lightweight one.

>hired as extra for tv show, have to wear camo don't ask, it never got finished >literally every crew member makes the 'woah I can't see your body!' joke Almost not worth the money.

>>3963 Probably best price you're gonna get at that

>>5398 Strelok to just don't wear thermals and sleep in the cold. For clammy feet you have to change socks. Only once a day. If you have to sacrifice a little sleep to save your feet then you need to do that. You can't wear ponchos quietly. If you want to vent heat a little better then take off your jacket and wear artificial fabric undershirts. Loosen up the bottom. /K/ why do desert patterns make my dick rock hard? Also what are your favorite deserts?

>>5396 In your second picture isn't this Austrian post-war camo with an Reichs eagle patch attached? I know Austrian camo was based on earlier designs but I even recognize the grey buttons.

>>4316 >Digital camo looks stylish But it's not nearly aesthetic enough.

Would it be a bad idea to dye multicam to make it darker? As in throw in some dark grey? I have multiple sets to experiment with, and the foliage near me is generally darker shades of green and brown than the multicam pattern. Or is it better to just wear it around for a couple of weeks without washing them to let environmental stains set in?

>>4358 Ok cool, I figured that would probably be the answer, but I still want to try the dye to see what it'll look like. I've got plenty of spare sets so I might as well.

>>4313 KLMK works astonishingly well for a simple two-color pattern.

Does anyone have a recommendation for reproduction versions of Taz83 or Leibermuste?

>>5408 Is there something wrong with Alpenflage, there's a fuckton of surplus for it. >leibermuster You're out of luck.

>>5409 >alpenflage It doesn't fit me because I'm a manlet no I'm actually two sizes too small for the common ones sold at size medium, and the smalls are too short.....

>>5410 Well that's just sucky, pal. Why do you want a red camo anyway?

>>5411 >red camo Since i've got access to a some FLIR devices, I want to try and see if the (seemingly spurrious) claim that Taz83 actually works better than most camo at night. I'm looking for the czech Vz. 95 since they sell it with the IR layering in the surplus last I checked I also want to add a set for my alpine gear anyways

I just found an old bandolier and backpack stamped 1907 in a corner of a barn. Any strelo/k/s with experience cleaning ancient leather and canvas?

>>5413 I have no idea about cleaning ancient leather, but post pics of the bag. Also consider taking it to a leather worker and get his opinion on it.

>>5414 So far I've given it a rub with a damp cloth and some saddle soap. I don't think a specialist will be necessary since it's in surprisingly good condition. The leather is dry but still flexible and none of the seams look rotten.

>>5415 Looks like old German South West Africa gear. That is a very nice find.

>>5415 Make sure to use a leather conditioner on it, so the leather doesn't crack

>>5415 Hey, I used to have one of those belts. I think it's Swedish or Belgian from around WW1.

I want to wear clothes and suits from S.T.A.L.K.E.R. where can I buy them?

>>5419 Grey shop might help as well as your local used clothing shop. No clue about the clear sky fags though.

>>5419 >>5420 Clear sky homos just use either OMON uniforms or some navy surplus.

>>5421 >>5419 >freedom Flecktarn >dolg Literally any black paramilitary, paint the red stripes yourself >military Russian or ukrainan milsurp >monolith Chinese Type 99 camo (Good luck that's stuff for the SF boys) , SK Armed forced intel agency camo,Tajik OMON, UCP (?), JSDF Air force pixel camo, or DPM urban. >clear sky M-MDU-03 (Serbian commercial stuff) or Ukrainian "urban" TTsKO >bandit Loot your local addias store and make sure that black leggings matter >renegade ??? >loner SOL, make your own. >Ecologist SOL, make your own. Maybe steal a BSL-4 suit (eg; Delta Protection, ILC Dover Chemturion "Blue Suit".)?

>>5396 I really appreciate the ECWCS clothing system. I own and love both Gen 1 and Gen 2 in pic(s) rel., though most argue against woodland. I also own the same parka that is used by US Marines in Marpat and its great. Another great military clothing and camo stuff is Serbia. I own this camo parka (I have no idea of the name of the camo) and also I own another Serbian Parka but in OD Green. Personally, I like these ones and a lot may argue against the effectiveness of their camo (especially against the od green parka, understandable), they work great in my opinion.

>>5423 Where did you find that last one and where can I get one myself.

>>5424 Swisslink.com, I've managed to buy two from them last year. Also, Sportman's Guide was selling them for awhile as well, I would check and see if they have any. Avoid Arcisa on ebay, he has a tendency of selling milsurp clothing that is missing most of it's parts and buttons. Arcisa is okay if you want to buy gas masks, anything clothing related, do not buy from him.

I'm not a fan of making everything camo, but the one on the right is surprisingly good for what it is.

>>5426 Isn't the US in trials for new light tanks right now? This'd make a good uniform for those guys.

>>5427 Did the US ever have proper hussars, or at least units in hussar uniform?

>>5428 Technically speaking, they still do.

>>5405 Multimeme sucks donkey balls for any environment that isn't a brown and khaki rock hillside in Afghanistan with a little bit of half-dead scrub brush here and there. Sell it and buy M81 Woodland.

Mike B is still a youtube piece of shit but he's got some "rare" (not a camo expert) camo back in stock including: South Korean M2010 Singapore M09 Aussie DPCU Cadpat https://www.mikesmilitaria.com/collections/camouflage-clothing

>>5431 What'd he do?

>>5431 Is it really camo when it hurts my eyes to look at it?

>>5432 >What'd he do First off, never liked him so take this with he bias in mind. Aside from the usually youtuber clickbaiting, patreon shrilling, he shrills his fucking helmets and is part of the issue of people driving up helmets up to insane prices because he's got a group of cult like retards. HE also unironically believes that not censoring serial numbers is good idea. I get that its your choice, but the last time I was told that Snowden is a complete conspiracy look how that turned out, what is absurd is now reality. He is right about not even taking photos of firearms in the first damn place. To think and not study is a very dangerous act, and thats exactly what he did there. Did I mention he is also shooting a WWII movie? As if the memes write themeselves I can't wait to see how we get ebil nazi's bad narrative for the millonth time. >>5433 >camo Singapore camo is about as effective as UCP in the US, maybe outside of Lousiana/Florida

>>5431 >Aussie DPCU >Nearly US$100 a set Well, looks like I have a little investment sitting in my cupboard after all.....

Any places where I can get rare camo's? like JGSDF gear or irish army camo? something about those restricted military items is pretty cool, is there any cool camo out there that YOU would like to get your hands on?

Any good places to buy cheap camo from? What camo would be the closest to the mercs from MGS2?

>>5437 >Any good places to buy cheap camo from? Your local surplus store, if there is one. Otherwise try ebay or other similar online stores. >What camo would be the closest to the mercs from MGS2? The one in the left image looks similar to the more brownish TTsKO variants, the one in the right image looks like the MVD/OMON Kamush/Tigr/Тень urban lizard-stripe pattern I believe it is called "metro" or "shadow".

>>5437 >Any good places to buy cheap camo from? colemans has alot but youll have to pay shipping charges, otherwise either ebay or a local store unless you want to go exploring through the online surplus stores

Where do I find Wehrmacht and SS camo that isn't made in China?

>>5440 Roman at lindenhoff tactik replica usually has some splittertarn in modern G3 pants and shirts and I did see him make some Erbsenmuster for Beshtiya but he was based just outside of Kiev/Keev w/e? so not sure on his where abouts these days. I know of Richard Underwood doing peadot44 replica uniforms and then theres the megacamo which is majority chinkshit pencil cases to beach towels. Cannot attest to quality beyond some megacamo socks that were drastically too small. Good luck and prepare to have your wallet Auschwitzed I wish I'd snapped some off Roman in both splittertarn and erbsenmuster before Russia got greedy on Ukraine lands

>>5441 forgot pic

>camo with green >doesn't know ASAT /thread Bonus thread: ASAT urban = ???

>>5440 Maybe try Hessen Antique. They're who I got my M41 tropical hat from, and it's pretty legit.

Camo shorts a meme or can you make it work? My legs are pale white while my face is tanned.

>>5445 depends, the goal of camo is to make you harder to shoot and to conceal you while in brush. i wouldnt recommend wearing shorts in brush unless you sweat like crazy and cant wear normal length pants, but as long as you arent laying down in an open field with short grass you should be fine plus you can always put mud or paint on your legs

>>5445 They still obscure your center of mass when combined with camo shirts and will keep you cooler in warm climates, but you aren't going to necessarily get the stealth benefits if your pasty white legs are glowing in the moonlight.

>>5445 If you really need shorts, I'd recommend pants with leggings that can zip on or off as needed, or just get pants that are lighter or more breathable if you're wearing them in a warmer climate. Otherwise the camo is shit if your legs are exposed. I'm used to wearing jeans in warm weather anyway so I'd just deal with the heat.

>>5436 Kruschiki sells Jietai jackets but I don't know about the pants. >>5437 The colors on the Tanker chapter uniforms is close to the splat camo from 1938 that the Soviets used.

>>5446 >i wouldnt recommend wearing shorts in brush unless you sweat like crazy and cant wear normal length pants idk for that anon but for me where I live it gets stupid hot. While I dont like moving through brush without pants on, honestly, in the heat, id prefer to have shorts on for cooling. It gets unbearably hot where I live

>>5450 >bare legs in desert sun or >bare legs in the green hell Posin ass bitch detected. You don't even fucking know what hot is.

What does one look for when buying boots and shoes, specifically for hiking and keeping your feet dry. Is there are difference between a "combat" boot and hiking boot? What are the trade-offs of low-cuts and high-cuts besides needing to wade through water?

>>5452 get a trainer with an "S" on it Sketchers/Saucony/Salomon/Saltypeepee I'd shill some less woke ones but I don't know any. They're only good in the warm because Italian rubber soles don't know what ice even is. If you want all-weather idk what to tell you try some fuckin cheapo Hi-Tecs Safety boots create fatigue from the weight. Good for kicking sod or stomping a shovel though. Keep them for gardening. Hiking boots should survive rock climbing for longer before destruction of the soles but are not a goodwill store commodity. Don't climb the rocks if at all anon bc it quickly eats every kind of shoe. Same ought to go in terms of ankle support but I haven't tried any kind of fancy shoe that costs anything and I cannot report. Get waterproof socks and just dry out the shoe when circumstances allow. Wellingtons are not pack-friendly weight. When you go hiking wear two layers of socks and let the thinner sock in there take the friction instead of your foot. Obviously natural strands, not synthetic. These rules are only to keep me moderately happy because otherwise I get foot cramp really easily. Also if you're an older bodily-abused anon take some >95% turmeroids herbs at least twice a day. It's for treating your old man arthritis. It doesn't go away but the worst excesses are tempered a little amount, slightly more an amount over just keeping warm. That's everything I've learned regarding the end of your stumps. If you're lucky enough to have children, treat their feet with the big brain sauce provided and make sure they fit so that they don't grow up to have feet that cramp up all the time.

>>5453 Thank you for the advice. I've decided to not wear shoes anymore because it costs too much money.

>>5454 But I got my shoes for 30 euros and some replacement laces/insoles for five finger discount. My crampers' foot are now happy anon

>>5452 >>5454 >What does one look for when buying boots and shoes, specifically for hiking and keeping your feet dry. You can go on a budget too. All you need are comfy boots with thick soles. Like that part is crucial I have went through quite a few trails with just sneakers and all these little stones you walk on add up. Low cut or high is preference, high can protect your ankles from twisting better than low but low weights less. Using work shoes (or anything with steel caps) on long marches will fuck up your fingers. It does not mater if boots are leather or material, both can be impregnated to make it watertight up to the point. Like if you are walking inside of a cloud for a day you will still have your feet wet because you have everything wet. Good thick socks are crucial. If you are planning on hiking in winter, if you need to ask these sorts of questions you seriously should not do it, especially on higher mountains.

I have to wonder if all these stupid designer brands and other fashion trends aren't really just to prevent society from having a homogenous look where one can blend into a crowd with ease as natural camo.

>>5396 Love me camo

New polish moro. Do you,like it? Personally I love it.