No takers after these days? I'll finish the thread for good.
>>9429
>America, a big bully, came in and told Japan they would start bullying them if they were caught hanging out with Russia so Japan
Not only this is wrong, it also implies that Japan is so weak it can't establish its own foreign policy, which is also untrue currently. I am not sure where this assumption came from but someone has to debunk it.
The US had been warning Japan about trying to pacify Russia with money as early as 2013 but Abe and his successors kept going anyway until 2022.
When the US backed down from the 2015 nuclear deal with Iran and told Japan to stop buying oil from them, Japan instead kept buying oil and even tried mending the nuclear deal by opening talks with the 2 countries.
https://www.reuters.com/article/us-iran-japan-usa-khamenei-idUSKCN1TE14V/
Even worse was that when Trump was thinking to remove US military away from Japan, Abe negotiated to keep them in place.
https://www.reuters.com/article/usa-japan-defense-idINKCN1TQ0BI/
It may be hard to comprehend to those so spoilt with Soviets' absolute authority, but just because the US has military bases in Japan, it does not mean they could just tell its government what to do and expect it to happen.
>>9437
>Russia of today is not the Soviet Union.
On this context Japan couldn't care less of the difference because Russia doesn't even bother make a peace treaty almost 80 years after the last war and then kept the same allies in East Asia, exactly like the Soviets did. This situation is what makes Japan tense over the islands, they aren't sure when bombs will start being dropped.
>but after Kishida's stunts over the last two years they're militarizing the islands and evicting everyone now and cutting off fishing access. Good job, Kishida. You fucked it all up trying to be a Chink-tier wolf-warrior.
This is wrong. The islands have been militarized as early as June 2021, before Kishida was even in his current office.
https://www.csis.org/blogs/new-perspectives-asia/russias-militarization-kuril-islands
https://www.mod.go.jp/j/publication/wp/wp2022/html/n130504000.html
>anti-ship missile installed in 2016
>3 Su-35 units added in August 2018
>anti-air missile systems added in December 2020
>military exercises involving 10,000 military personnels, 500 vehicles, 32 aircrafts & 12 ships in June 2021
>tanks added in January 2022
Demilitarization was never carried out in the first place.
It's more like Russia had been baiting Japan with chance of negotiating peace on islands for money, while intermittenly halting negotiations underway for whatever reasons, giving the latter false hope. Exploiting Japan like it's a gambling addict. Japan too was at fault for falling to this trick, but an actual friend-ly country wouldn't let this happen in the first place.
You can't have your cake (being allies with China and NK) and eat it too (being allied to Japan who is constantly under threat by YOU and the other 2 countries)
Kishida may be quite messy when it comes to domestic policy, but he compensates that with foreign policy. He cut off this faulty policy of trying to buy its enemies into peace and instead strengthen Japan's relationship with NATO and started military exercises with European powers.
https://asia.nikkei.com/Politics/International-relations/Indo-Pacific/NATO-to-open-Japan-office-deepening-Indo-Pacific-engagement
https://www.japantimes.co.jp/news/2023/06/13/national/nato-exercises-japan-attendance/
He takes the defense problem seriously.
In conclusion, even without the US in picture at all, there is still no reason for Japan to ally with Russia. If the US withdraws its bases and troops overnight, Japan would instead scramble for other allies, starting from Europe in opposition to Russia, China and North Korea, all hostile countries in one camp.
>>9427
>Besides, there was this: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sino-Soviet_border_conflict
>>9419
>if China decides to try and take Siberia a 2nd sino-soviet war could occur just as fast.
I don't understand where this distrust comes from. Let's assume it's true anyway; If China, a neighbor of Russia who actually made peace and border agreements with it after one short war still cannot gain Russia's full trust as an ally,
what makes you think Japan, who actually had 2 big wars against Russia and are still technically not in peace with, can even hope to gain Russia's trust either?
Even if Japan magically is allied with Russia, what would they gain from it? Armenia-Azerbaijan clashes in 2022/2023 show that Russia is unwilling to address the needs of its allying neighbor. No one cares whatever excuses it has when in comparison the US can maintain bases all over the world while also getting in wars with distant middle east countries.
>Your talking points come from nazi weebs over on /kohi/ who read about the dispute and said "yeah the USSR sucked and we like Japan, so those islands gotta be Japanese" without even understanding the history of Hokkaido.
That's rich coming from someone who deliberately skip some parts of history that does matter and make up plain lies for the remainder of this thread and
>>59526 alongside 3+ other anons. You never even touched my points about North Korea being a thorn for Japan that Russia keeps feeding even after the Soviets are gone.
Years of fellating all those altaic plastic boomsticks won't make you any better than that gay porn board in history comprehension.