Former fattie here. The food pyramid is a lie and workout plans are scam. Meat is good, animal-sourced fat is good, processed food is literally industrial waste. And when I say meat I mean meat where you could tell what part of the animal it comes from, not Frankenstein slob made from waste products. Exercise is very good to get your metabolism going, but exercise will not help you lose weight. When I was fat I was doing much more exercising, but all it did was just add muscle to all the fat. Getting my diet in order made all the fat just burn away. I still do exercising, mostly cycling and strength training, but I do less of it than before with better results. Don't go on calorie restriction diets. They will help you lose weight, but your body will go into emergency mode and the moment you go back to eating a normal amount your body will stash every calorie it can get to be prepared for the next emergency. Calorie restriction diets are a great way to fuck up your metabolism for good. What >>5163 said sounds about right. There are so many diet gurus with meme diets like Keto, Atkins, Paleo and what have you, who want to sell their books and courses. You don't need any of that crap, just take keto as a general guideline and you will be fine. You won't blow up in size if you step out of ketosis.

Added notes: >Coffee and tea might help with weight loss, decaf is probably preferred if you drink more than a cup a day, but it won't hydrate you, and on a budget it can be cut. >Whole milk is better than reduced fat milks, the latter are correlated with lactose intolerance as well. >If you get acne from higher oil diets translating to oily skin, picrel helps in the shower or sink to mop it up preventatively. Acne can be caused by pH or hormonal imbalances as well as clogged pores though, so ymmv. >Refusing to cook for time-saving reasons imposes a karmic debt on you. Try adding freezer to any recipe queries or experimenting yourself. >There's no need to go all in on a new diet, just get what you would usually but cook something new once a week to see if you want any as a replacement staple meal.

I was pretty skinny (like 140lbs 6ft) and had a bad diet for my life. When I started I just fucked around doing the machines and free weights at my gym, 45 minutes to an hour a day for 3-4 days a week, for like a year. I was feeling really good, gained weight (which I needed) fast, people said I looked way better, and I could actually fill out my t-shirts. Also in general eating better, not amazing and not super dialing in on it, but making sure to get 100+g of protein a day and avoiding fatty processed things like fast food. Of course the easiest thing to make was chicken and broccoli and rice. Unfortunately I moved to a place without a gym anywhere conveniently close and haven't worked out for around 2 months, and I can feel my body being more lethargic and weaker. I guess the lesson is keep going, anons, make sure you make it a habit and try to make access to where you can work out easier. I will probably buy some home equipment because if it's in my house then that removes a barrier of effort in starting the workout. I am not a super /fit/ guy but I went from skinny nerd to above-average human being with what felt like not a lot of effort.

>exercise regularly >learn to cook and do it That's really all it takes. Don't need any gym or fancy equipment, simple body weight exercises at home are enough as long as you are diligent. Don't need any special diet either, just make whatever you like from fresh ingredients. Even a burger is healthy if it's made from fresh meat instead of chemical waste and artificial flavors.

I play handheld games while I jog for motivation to get off my ass.

>>5162 whats the point of posting this here? whats the point you're making? That folks here will get better and fitter and... then what? Get a gf? lol Become successful? The autists here can't get anything more than an autism coder job which doesn't require fitness. You still get nowhere, you still get not picked, you don't get confidence (if you think having muscles and talking in a deep voice is confidence you're delusional) and just a bully to others. And by some miracle if someone does manage to "make it", he'll leave this place immediately. The first step to improvement is to leave this entire sphere of internet and join the normalfags. In order to "make it", to go to the other side.

>>5170 >The autists here can't get anything more than an autism coder job which doesn't require fitness The autists here can't code well enough to get a job unless you count Boen from the AMA.

>>5170 >(1) >cry big baby bitch tears >Not doing something that can benefit you longterm >Being a bully Fuck off niggerpill.

Someone post the MovieBlob building a better gaymer. It's good motivation not to end up like him.

I've lost like over 20lbs over this year by just switching soda to mixing fruit juice and sparking water at a 5:1 ratio. It's got significantly less calories like 30 calories per 12 oz and it's cheaper too especially if you make your own carbonated water with a co2 tank rig.

>>1018166 Must be easy being a manlet.

How not to starve as a poorfag?

>>5176 Rice and pasta is very cost effective as a carb. Chicken is cheap and good, I recommend making a curry out of chicken breast. Chickpeas are good to cook as a dense protein-filled veggie. Try to buy in bulk and keep them in long-lasting containers (or in chicken's case, in the freezer). Places like Sam's Club or Costco are great for saving money and worth the membership cost imo.

>>5177 Oh, and forgot to mention split peas too*

>>5170 You'll never get anywhere in anything if you just do it for somebody else. Do it for yourself because of your own reasons. Nobody else cares. >>5176 Check out your area for local farmers and such. Buying directly from small places like that can be much cheaper than regular stores, the catch is finding them and having to drive over.

>>5179 I don't see how that's the case, the local supermarkets and Sam's Club/Costco have much better prices usually.

>>5180 Maybe he's talking about more rural areas and individual sellers out in the sticks rather than stuff like farmer's markets, which are often overpriced.

>>5181 Usually it's even worse from my own experience. You're not really gonna beat the surpermarket price like at all, that's just from what I've seen. I don't believe most of the shit I read on the internet.

>>5177 Rotisserie chicken at kroger is 2 for $12 where I'm at, it has some additive which nobody can claim is bad or fine though. Pull it apart and eat a potato with it.

>>5162 Lost 30 pounds on carnivore some months ago. If anyone goes on keto or carnivore I would recommend keeping up your fiber intake for a while though. A spoonful of metamucil a day is fine. Otherwise you may get constipated, diarrhea, or whatever else for a while since it can be a big dietary change.

>>5183 >>5181 At least in my region, the idea is that while it is cheaper at the supermarket you can find better and worse quality products at the farmer's market, but you have to be able to recognize quality, and always be the one who picks them up, instead of letting the farmer do it, unless it's something like peas or potatoes or fruits like cherries. If you ever get tricked, as in buying a kilogram of cherries and a tenth of them are rotten, then you remember his or her face/stall and never buy from him or her ever again.

>>5184 How can you get constipated from meat? There is barely any waste products. If anything the opposite should happen where it takes several days for enough poop to accumulate to have a bowel movement, but that's not constipation, it's the opposite.

>>5186 High fat content can make your bowel movements more sticky and thus harder to pass. There's a similar issue if you eat to many eggs.

>>5176 The way I do it is to basically split food into groups (Carbs, meat, produce, etc.), then figure out price caps per pound of food in those groups. As mentioned already, rice is probably the cheapest source of carbs out there, pound per pound. It's quite a bit cheaper than even pasta, assuming you go with white rice, and not a more expensive variety like Jasmine. Rice lasts a good while, so you can easily buy 5+ pound bags and have it still be fine. Though quick-cook rice, such as Minute Rice, is a ripoff, since rice is so easy to make. Chicken, particularly drumsticks and bone-in thighs, are generally going to be your cheapest meat option on a normal week. Once in a while, you can find pork at a competitive price, and once in a while, some other meats fall into the realm of reason. Produce tends to be a bit dependent on season, and in that case, just follow the "per-pound" rule in general. If there's clearance stuff and you plan on eating it relatively quickly, that's likely your best buy. The freezer is your friend as far as meats go. Clearance meat is usually fine if you throw it in the freezer as soon as you get home. You can get some banger deals this way, if you get lucky with the day you shop. Also, water is obviously the cheapest drink, especially if your tap water isn't shit. If you can phase out non-water drinks, especially soda, then you're saving quite a bit of money there.

>>5176 Are you retarded or something? Homeless people are morbidly obese. Basic healthy food is ridiculously cheap and affordable. At worst you might not be able to afford high protein intake with protein powder or eating chicken daily. Eat rice, legumes, mixed vegetables, whatever the cheapest low sugar fortified cereal is in your area, oats, and take a multi-vitamin. Buy frozen fruits and put them into oatmeal. The question is not how to not starve as a poorfag. The question should be how are so many poor retards so god damn fat all the time.

>>5189 >homeless people are morbidly obese Poor =/= homeless, I've rarely seen homeless people who are obese.

>>5190 That's nice, I've been around areas with some of the highest density of homeless in north american for my entire life and there are absolutely a non-insignificant number of fat homeless people.

>>5190 >>5191 I am not so sure about homeless people, but I do know that Mexico has a higher rate of obesity than America, even though it's a much, much poorer country, so it's not a problem of wealth, and no it's not just niggers and illegals who are obese in America. https://archive.ph/wip/omwoJ >The report found 32.8 percent of Mexican adults are obese, more than the U.S., which has a 31.8 percent obesity rate. >The question should be how are so many poor retards so god damn fat all the time. The simple answer would be lack of education, lack of self control or delayed gratification, which is part of why they remain poor, but such people existed for hundreds and thousands of years and they weren't obese. Sadly they were given a bad hand by so called experts even from birth(there are corporations who convince African mothers that their baby formula is much more nutritious than the mother's milk, so they feed their baby that sugary substance, and they now have a nigger baby who is addicted to sugar, and this is not just something that happens in Africa). Until Covid, the majority of people were willing to blindly follow the "experts", thankfully their masked slipped a bit with the whole pandemic and some people realized that those so called experts don't want the cattle's best interest at heart. To go back on track, most food especially in America are filled to the brim with sugar that just makes your body crave for even more sugar(food) and thus makes you feel the need to eat more. At this stage telling an obese person who has been feed highly processed slop instead of food, that "it's just a problem of willpower bro", it's like telling a heroin addict that he simply lacks willpower. Hopefully Trump wins the election, puts Kennedy in charge of the food and he can do something, before Coca Cola assassinates him.

>>5192 Education has nothing to do with it. People are fat because food tastes good and they want to eat a lot of it. >it's like telling a heroin addict that he simply lacks willpower Except in the case of food it's true. The answer is to literally just stop eating. All of this "well actually if you convert everyone to a primarily organic diet" shit is just a nice narrative that people spin up to deflect from the reality that fat people are complete subhumans that can't just not eat food. Telling a fat retard that if he dedicates 6 hours of his week driving around to butcher's and farmers markets and cooks all of his own food on a seasoned cast iron pan isn't going to make him lose weight. Literally the only way you get skinny people is by culturally shaming fats into hating themselves. It works great in asian countries. Fat people should want to kill themselves. They should be embarrassed by their gluttony. Everyone around them should constantly tell them their unsightly presence is nauseating. All this meme shit about random diets and processed food is completely meaningless.

>>5192 The later Kennedys are glowfaggot shabbos goyim even worse than John given that he was still in power when the immigration act was pushed into the government floor. Their predecessor just just got too uppity before he was put down. https://www.presidency.ucsb.edu/documents/speech-senator-john-f-kennedy-zionists-america-convention-statler-hilton-hotel-new-york-ny https://cis.org/Report/HartCeller-Immigration-Act-1965 >Fifty-two years after President John F. Kennedy was assassinated in Dallas, his name is linked to immigration primarily because of his still-popular book, A Nation of Immigrants. >First published in 1958 as Kennedy was a senator preparing to run for the presidency, the book had two central themes: a celebration of immigrants' contributions to the nation and a call to abolish the system by which they had been selected since 1924. >The book was actually written by a member of Kennedy's staff, Myer Feldman. Describing Kennedy's participation as minimal, Feldman said the senator had "reviewed it, and did some editing." >While Kennedy was one of his era's most outspoken reform advocates, he used a 1957 speech to the American Jewish Congress to make clear that he did not favor unlimited immigration. He stated his conviction that "we should have a system of limited and selective migration to the United States." >Kennedy's principal objection with the status quo was about "the nature, not the existence" of restrictions. Asserting that a selective policy was necessary, he said that policy should "give preference to an immigrant because he is a nuclear physicist rather than because he is an Anglo-Saxon."

>>5162 Wanna own >>>/fit/?

>>5194 Sir the gamergate thread is on the next floor.

>>5197 I don't like RFK since he's a health shill glowie plant, I'm not ignorant and I'm not retarded.

>>5198 Bad health is associated with ignorance and retardation. Sorry, you're ignorant and retarded.

>>5199 Good health and what the health industry calls good health to shill health products are different. I don't follow RFK, can't say if he's good advice or health product shilling.

>>5224 You're literally shitting up the board.