>>23599 IDs are an experiment. Unlike halfchan with its stubborn old guard, here we can actually test things out. Changes don't have to be permanent, we can revert them. IDs can only be turned on/off for the entire board as of now. However, as stated above if you are in a typical thread and just add the CSS to hide IDs, in all likelihood it should really affect the conversation.

I like IDs, not only removes the ambiguity problem of people getting in a conversation and they make some 'patterns' evident. 4/a/ had a group of pathological shitposters that were ignored by the staff and they would deliberately get in threads to sow division and unnecessary drama, the ID at least allows other anon to see what's happening and creates an entry barrier that doesn't falls into geotrolling.

I hope IDs will discourage certain bad actors from constantly posting bait, or other discussion derailing replies. We will have to wait and see if it works, it feels weird not being completely anonymous honestly. I have to ask though, since most of us are refugees here, how do the regulars feel about it.

>>23624 >>23635 IDs take away the whole point of this site being anonymous, may as well add mandatory usernames if posts will be judged by who made them instead of their content

>>23677 I'm not disagreeing with you entirely, but are you aware that they only persist within each individual thread?

I like ids :)

>>23677 >Anonymous Your IP and post history can be seen by the staff. That's applies to any website. Your ID isn't persistent. You can literally remove your cookies and there's no wait time. If something this chan is incredibly lenient with spammers. It isn't like the current ID will stop flamers or trolls to get into discussions as (1) posters instead of impersonating and creating false 'common opinion'.

>>23685 >but are you aware that they only persist within each individual thread I admit I wasn't, and while that makes it a much smaller issue, the problem persists for each thread, once you made a "wrong" opinion you will not be able to participate in the discussion till the next thread

>>23705 ...Or you could just switch your VPN node.

>>23685 Not from here so keep that in mind, but I'd suggest you keep IDs during this entire thing and then remove then. Issue with your /a/ is that it's very slow. Threads subsist for months, so you might as well have permanent IDs since a single thread will endure a long time, and create the issues the other anon mentioned. Though, for the duration of 4chan being down, I'd keep them up

>>23711 That makes a lot of sense.

I don't think it really solves anything, it's extremely trivial to change your ID and basically just adds the ban evasion step of shitposting 1 step sooner. I'd say "at least it stops lazy drive-by shitposts" but it doesn't really because 8chan doesn't use the same blocking shit 4chan did so all the really simple methods of changing IPs work. Also rampant samefaggotry isn't really a board-wide issue, it's contained to specific threads more prone to it, mostly /dbs/ (which is still full of cancerous shitposters anyway). The best solution to falseflagging, samefaggotry, and rampant ban evasion has always been one thing; good moderation, especially because 8chan makes it so easy to change ID that they're practically useless to anyone other than the most lazy people.

I’m hoping for a total 4cuck death, so if my people decide to stay here, will captchas and cooldown timers be implemented later on? Just curious on this since posting without stopping is really nice. Also where can I see my warnings/bans? I get pop ups but can’t really see why I got warned

>>23722 For some the value of ID increases with the number of (good) posts.

I hate cucks and agp trannies Other than that ID are fine and in the first place it doesnt stop shitposters that really want to shit, just see /DBS/

>>23718 Are you our regular by any chance?

>>23705 >once you made a "wrong" opinion What does this even mean?, if you made a point either stand by it or admit you were wrong and move on

>>23677 Unfortunately they are a necessary system once any modern imageboard goes above a mere dozen or so active users you can easily recognize by posting style. This is even worse when hosting the activity of 4chan's /a/ given how common janny-protected crunchyroll astroturfing had become, especially in the last 2 years.

>>23718 >arisu ojisan is a shotcaller our reach knows no bounds

>>23740 I always knew we run shit, direct or indirectly

>>23745 ask around why they havent sent me an email confirmation fren

IDs are good, at least it filter Indians because they are too poor to use VPN

>>23740 >>23745 Maybe we also had a gupper mod watching out after us

>>23635 The people that want the IDs are the ones that make the problems. People are also ignoring that now is easier to falseflag by simply posting from the same ID and then using your phone to prove how bad "someone" is. Thing is that IDs don't add anything but do bring extra problems.

>>23783 >The people that want the IDs are the ones that make the prob- Wrong. >>23739

>>23739 I think a thread like that, in my opinion, is honestly a perfect example of one of my major worries with IDs; someone deliberately using them to create some kind of a narrative. In the first place, that thread is still active when it really shouldn't be because the OP alone is an obvious troll post that should be banned, but then if you look just a little further into the thread rather than just this image to get context (I don't know if cross-board linking works on 8chan forgive me if it doesn't) >>>/vyt/34957 >>>/vyt/35191 >>>/vyt/47826 >>>/vyt/48193 You can literally see some guy changing IDs rapidly, who is clearly the same person, openly admitting to trying to create a narrative against some people he doesn't like and gloating about spreading misinformation with fake screenshots. That entire problem WOULD have been solved if that thread was deleted immediately because right from the opening post instead for being an obvious troll thread.

>>23783 Without IDs you didn't even had to use your phone to falseflag, the truth is no method will completely stop a determined samefag but by adding friction some will get discouraged and some of the one that still try to do it will fuck up and post different opinions from the the ID and expose themselves

Ids are garbage feature that only satisfy control-freak normienigger scum who view every interaction soley as a social game and nothing more. every one in support of it should just fuck off to reddit or some other forum that uses user accounts because it's quite literally the same. instead of focring you to make a site wide account, it's forced on you per thread which is equally as shitty. it's funny that everyone recognizes that ids are a slight hurdle at best for schizos and shitposters and it doesn't really solve anything, and yet people are still supporting it because... they'll be able to see that the same anon who made an effortpost also shitposted beforehand in the same thread, so now you can dismiss anything he says regardless because he did le heckin bad in your eyes. literally kys if you support this shit

>>23734 No, I just liked the image. >>23722 I think so far it's addressed the points I made here >>23549 which is that it saves BO and BVs time. >>23730 I wouldn't know about details like that, you can post on >>>/site/ or ask Codexx on the #8chan Rizon IRC with questions. >where can I see my warnings/bans? I get pop ups but can’t really see why I got warned Ask on >>>/site/, I'm actually not sure about that. Maybe the "reason" field was left blank for your warning? >>23804 I think you're right that that kind of manipulation is possible.

>>23735 You know pretty well that's not the point, especially here where every thread is pretty much eternal, if I I'm talking about a new anime episode and make something like a misspelling error and someone simply disagrees with what I'm saying well it literally doesn't matter what I say, and god forbid I made someone mad then I'm basically not allowed to post again in that thread, being right or wrong is irrelevant to the discussion.

>>23804 >samefags don't exist, IDs are a falseflag spook by hysterical anti-samefags This is just comical

>>23817 I just saw the Dragon Ball thread have a panic attack and stop shitposting for a moment because they were all samefagging It was worth it just for that

Testing ID HEAVEN

>>23827 One of the best arguments to have IDs is looking at the DBS threads. The nanosecond the IDs were added the shitposting went down by almost -90%. Yes some people kept at it anyway but basically all of them admit they would give up on the samefag spam.

>>23837 ...is that a thing that happens to you often? If so, then yeah, i want the IDs, fuck you

>>23599 That CSS does not stop others from seeing your ID. It's the equivalent of covering your eyes thinking it makes you invisible to other people.

>>23837 You unironically sound traumatized from the draconian bullshit on reddit. I legitimately doubt anyone is going to give any serious fukc about a minor spelling error beyond "haha he wrote it wrong". >and god forbid I made someone mad then I'm basically not allowed to post again in that thread, Just filter them, if they are obnoxious enough basically everyone will report and filter. I already saw it happen on multiple threads on multiple boards.

>>23837 >and god forbid I made someone mad then I'm basically not allowed to post again in that thread Imagine being such a massive fag that you run away from a thread because someone got mad at you

>>23837 This is a no bulli zone. I'm sure anons will be kind to each other. Also, add .spanId {display:none;} to the CSS Options on this site to hide IDs, you can probably safely just forget they exist.

>>23871 >"haha he wrote it wrong" It was an example, but this describes pretty well what you see all the time on 4chan and how most discussions end, except that it wont' end here.

Why is everything so slow to load? Are there still capacity issues?

>>23865 You're correct that it doesn't stop others from seeing your ID, but I think it will be a helpful bit of CSS for many anons.

>>23827 >No I’m choosing to believe that you are

>>23804 No offense but vtuber fans are special types of schizos. It doesn't shock me they'd abuse the system. I'm guilty of samefagging but only to make myself seem more correct or generate discussion with a dead series. The ID system would probably prevent me from samefagging but the worst offenders always go the extra mile.

>>23894 >l what you see all the time on 4chan Good thing this is 8chan, and the mood is different due to thread IDs :^)

>>23827 Yeah, I'll concede that it might save some time in outing some ban evaders sooner. Still, there's a lot of ways to ban evade, I can't imagine it would make that much of a difference to someone who's really dedicated. I'd just like to clarify that I'm not "hard" against IDs or anything, it just feels a little pointless to me. >>23838 I don't know who you're quoting but it's not me because I didn't say that. Samefags exist, IDs are nothing more than a minor inconvenience for them at best and a tool for them which makes it easier to disguise themselves at worst.

>>23608 ids are retarded, whole point of anonymity in 4chan is that you don’t have to keep up one approach to the discussion for an entire thread; if you’re actively identifiable, even within the bounds of just one thread, it completely changes the feel of a discussion because you become a discernible actor in it. I have other altchans at least although I guess I’m foregoing seasonal discussion here until mods stop trying to change what isn’t broken

>>23929 And the mood change suuuuuuuuucks

>>23883 You are ignoring how things are in reality, and the point of dealing with people that can change of IP at whim and getting on their bad side. >>23887 We'll see, at the end I don't care enough, I just want to talk about the anime I watch and hope a post I made a month ago isn't a "problem", you can bet is not a post I remember.

>>23883 If you can’t see how ids perpetrate shitflinging you’re covering your ears and closing your eyes

IDs are a terrible idea, turn them off please. If I wanted to namefag I'd namefag.

>>23936 I personally think "minor inconveniences" applied on a grand scale can have major results, but again let's see how it goes. >>23939 These are good points, for example earlier I made a "cute feet" post and now feel self-conscious about doing serious discussion in the same thread with the same ID.

>>23972 oooooo but you’re a new id one post with this id that means you’re shitposting and artificially boosting your sentiment this is why we need ids actually

>>23983 Now the key issue, did it reduce the report floor?

>>23996 flood* Yabai...

>>23960 >getting on their bad side. What does this even mean, are you afraid of cyberbullies or something?

>>23988 but if I made many posts arguing the position I'd be spamming, it's a difficult conundrum

>>23960 I really don't understand your point anon, what exactly do you think it's going to happen? >>23988 You know, all these anti-ID sound over-defensive and rude, so maybe you're on to something, good catch anon

>>23998 i will now remember your blunder until this thread archives

>>23926 > to make myself seem more correct Avoiding this is exactly why IDs are necessary.

>>24001 >say something controversial/retarded >instead of being able to instantly move on from this gigaautists are enabled to constantly derail to bitch at you or be needlessly hostile over your earlier posts

>>24008 Naruhodo. Rent free in your head. My empire is expanding.

>>23996 Dunno, the times I've checked, there have never been lots of reports. I'd like to see more.

My only problem is that I cant fun post anymore pretending to be another anon or two Ill behave for now

>>24014 I think ideally if that happens those people will be reported and warned/banned.

>>23996 >>23998 >Spelling mistake Oof, now you can't post in this thread anymore

>>24022 >for now oh...

>>23983 It introduces a lot of the hesitance towards spaghetti-spilling that makes chatting with a username unpleasant, just on a per-thread basis rather than universally. Plus any serious schizos are bound to find a way to work around it anyways

>>24014 And thanks to IDs now you can easily ignore the schizos who act like that

>>24029 Yeah, you make a good point. If I understand you correctly, IDs unfortunately limit fun spaghetti-spilling? Although as to the second point, it's not an all-or-nothing thing. If unserious schizos are somewhat deterred then that is one point in the pros column.

>>24007 I don't think I was being rude, I feel like I stated my points fairly.

>>24039 Man, she's been eating at Colonel Sanders's too much.

>>24015 n-nanu!?

>>23926 >>23983 >These are good points, for example earlier I made a "cute feet" post and now feel self-conscious about doing serious discussion in the same thread with the same ID. From what I can see on /v/, people don't care. Some will outright drop their porn spoilered while effortposting after a quick "I love [character]". At this point I'm convinced only shitposters wanting to samefag to push their narratives want IDs gone.

>>24038 Fewer unserious schizos means less noise for the actually mentally ill schizos to hide behind, even if they keep changing their ID it should be easier to identify them now

>>24014 We are not on 4chan with crunchyroll niggers on the janny seats. Here arguably the report button works, and if it doesn't you can just filter by ID.

>>24042 See, that's rude. Mods, can we time this guy out?

>>24035 I don’t want to seethe over guys sperging at me just as much as I don’t want guys being able to sperg over me to begin with, the whole appeal of 4chan’s total anonymity is being able to interact with everything on a post-by-post basis using that information alone and I don’t feel like playing the broader social game ids introduce and I assume others feel the same.

>>24064 In the hypothetical case that IDs continue to be a thing, I would recommend you to just report any sperging like that, because talking about thread personality drama is off-topic, generally speaking. Based on how much it derails I would say. Let's keep working together to figure things out, anon.

Anyways ids are anti-autist and I will not stand for them when unabashed autism is the defining characteristic of both 4chan and most altchans

>>24064 >the whole appeal of 4chan’s total anonymity Which got weaponized by glowies and corpos turning 4chan into an unusable shithole. >and I assume others feel the same. And you would be wrong. Pretty much every single board with IDs ended up not being able to live without them anymore after the usual shitposters showed up and got easily outed. Be honest with me bro, what you can't shitpost that are you seething over it?

>>24038 NTA obviously, or am I? but IDs also make me hesitant to post in any thread I want to actually have some semblence of "serious" discussion. I have no qualms with owning my own words, and will always stand by them. However, with IDs I must choose more carefully how I convey my thoughts. Do so "incorrectly" and now it makes things much more difficult to follow up on, without IDs I can just ignore that, and post regularly. Hell, I might even not care too much and still follow up however I'd like. Something happens to the human psyche when we can easily identify a pattern and follow it, which IDs give. IDs have both pros and cons, I do think though that I would prefer to not have IDs, perhaps in certain threads as has been discussed. I just don't want to feel like I can't freely express my thoughts, and must curtail them in order to "abide" by the thread "culture" whatever that might be, and god forbid I make a mistake in that thread. Sure I can just change my ID and carry on, but I would've preferred to not have to had to do so in the first place. I'm not even going to get into the whole "it removes anonymity" viewpoint, since you never really had any of that to begin with.

>>24073 What about if a thread personality (ie avatarusers) are being obnoxious and cancer, we can report them and you'll take immediate action?

>>24078 >>24075 Having an id makes you an identifiable character and that forces you into a broader social game without your consent, anyone who doesn’t understand what about that is fundamentally unappealing is basically a normie

>>24086 >normie

>>24089 Oops used the wrong word and now people can indefinitely associate that with me all thread

>>24080 You sound traumatized to the point of treating talking to people on the internet like a turn based game with a ranked system. Nigger it's just talking about niche hobbies, this is not twitter or reddit, if you fuck up and don't say shit correctly just correct yourself afterwards. Just don't be a faggot and people won't have an excuse to be mad at you.

>>24064 fair, but the only thing that sort of hurts me in the current setup is that threads never seem to fall. >>24073 anon, how about... IDs that reset every 48h, every week or what not? as in they change in the same thread.

>>24094 The thing that makes 4chan unlike twitter or reddit is that you aren’t identifiable as a constant dumbfuck

>>24098 You'd have to suggest to the admins/coders of the site. With the current moderation features I'm not sure if I could combine the tools in a clever way to accomplish that...

>>24086 I will flip it around, not having IDs forces you into a diahrrea tournament where spamming posts to make yourself look correct is the only winning move at the expense of actual discourse, bringing the worst parts of reddit (more updoots = more correcter) with none of the benefits. And again, this is extremely easily weaponized by schizos, glowies and corpos.

How does 'Nested quote posts' even work? I don't see any difference?

>>24108 If seeing more posts with a given opinion makes you feel uncomfortable about sharing or holding yours when you’re literally completely anonymous that’s just you bringing histrionic reddit behavior with you, ids are forced on you as a user

>>24080 >However, with IDs I must choose more carefully how I convey my thoughts. >Do so "incorrectly" and now it makes things much more difficult to follow up on, without IDs I can just ignore that, and post regularly. Hell, I might even not care too much and still follow up however I'd like. I seriously don't understand the problem here, is this something that happened to you? /pol/ had this shit for years and i never saw any situation like you're describing, it only made it easier to know who you're talking to

>>24109 click a backquote. forward quotes are the same

Anyways I’m off to shami enjoy whatever this circlejerk is while it lasts

>>24094 What if I want to be a faggot, what if I want to talk about the bussy, but the next minute I want to talk seriously about the series? Thinking in the Elusive Samurai threads, now I will have to pick one...

Still on the subject of IDs, I'd say that anyone that lurks long enough learns to identify samefags without them. Though I'm sure most people on 4chan that only have been there 10 or so years (or less) can't really do it as easily as someone that experienced 4chan before it got insanely fast. You don't NEED IDs to pick up schizos. It just helps. If a schizo is going about changing IPs to get a fresh ID you'll still be able to pick them up.

>>24119 So you admit to want IDs gone so you can gaslight people into agreeing with you? Lmao.

>>24126 This is a very good point. I think this is the most major downside to IDs.

So this is officially a Kurisu board?

>>24132 I have absolutely no fucking clue how you got that from my post outside of some sort of major paranoia/insecurity lmao

>>24126 I have seen that happen on vidya threads already, I just take serious posts seriously and porn posts as porn posts. Do you faggots actually have trauma over some faggot going through your twitter/reddit post history or something? Like actual literal PTSD?

>>24135 you should be able to solve this without asking!

>>24094 No, you misunderstand. I don't have any sort of issues talking to people on here or anywhere else, IDs or not. I will talk about my niche hobbies without any issue, and when I do make a mistake, it's of no consequence to just apologize as you have suggested. It's just that IDs create a pseudo social dynamic within the thread. You are forced to play a game you didn't choose to do so. Humans are very good at playing these types of games, and will do so without invitation or your consent. Perhaps at the end of the day it's not quite so bad, and I am overreacting. I do think if this board were a lot faster people wouldn't have as much issue with them, but as it stands threads on this site last for YEARS. That is YEARS your post/id will remain. Maybe it doesn't matter actually lol. The more I write this post the less I care. The bottom line was I just didn't want to be forced to play a silly social game in threads. >>24122 Nah, but it's something I think about when I approach how I want to reply to a post.

>>24126 >what if I want to talk about the bussy, but the next minute I want to talk seriously about the series? Then fucking do it, you idiot! What, are you shy or something? We already knew you were a fag

>>24126 Being able to detach yourself from your posts is an useful skill. The average anon isn't easy to identify if isn't using unique edits or pushing memes.

Finding it kind of funny how the pro-id poster is one guy against like 4 the ids are working against him

>>24141 >Perhaps at the end of the day it's not quite so bad, and I am overreacting. I do think if this board were a lot faster people wouldn't have as much issue with them, but as it stands threads on this site last for YEARS. That is YEARS your post/id will remain. This is a good point, especially with the 1000 post bump limit (iirc)

>>24126 >if I want to be a faggot, what if I want to talk about the bussy, but the next minute I want to talk seriously about the series? Thinking in the Elusive Samurai threads, now I will have to pick one... You're in a fastfag thread everyone knows what you're all about.

>>24126 This How can I hit on my favorite anon if my previous posts are super anti-favorite anon?

>>24146 just an example, but on 4chin i could be found between threads by filenames of my archived encodes i post caps of. could even find myself in archive search. ...but no one actually cares, it's not a big deal.

Thinking of wuby's tight evil pussy. >>24141 At this point I legitimately don't even understand the point you are trying to make beyond "IDs icky because I say so".

>>24151 Dude you gotta let this shit go, you are mentally ill.

>>24159 At this point I legitimately don't even understand the point you are trying to make beyond "IDs good because I say so".

>>24164 Yeah why else would I post on 4chan dipshit, and surprise surprise I’m an extremely civil poster without this bullshit at play

>>24152 It's not a good point, anyone that really wants to change their ID will just do the procedure they already did on 4chan to ban evade due to pissy jannies. Multiple people against IDs already admitted to wanting to samefag to improve the standing of their own opinions so they shouldn't be stranger to that.

>>24172 You aren't civil at all. I can't even begin to imagine how much you've been shitting up the board before IDs were added.

>I’m an extremely civil poster <BUT mhm, sure

>>24169 Do you want this shit? >>23739 to be the baseline standard for all threads? Because that's exactly what happened to 4chan and what will happen here without IDs.

Can we have a non-ID board as well, it would give both sides what they want. Cant claim to experiment if you don't have a control group.

>>24179 Never said I was being now and I have no reason to be now because I’m clearly engaging with people extremely unlike me if they’re unironically supporting ids on a >>24188 What the fuck kind of narrative is there to push here even, a schizo who really wants to fuck with the perception of an anime for some reason will just shuffle his id >>24201 Actually good proposition, let the people decide

How do you guys use the filter? I tried adding some but see no changes.

>>24205 >What the fuck kind of narrative is there to push here even, a schizo who really wants to fuck with the perception of an anime for some reason will just shuffle his id Nobody is going to take a horde of (1)s seriously anon.

>>24151 Im having fun to be honest That last one specially >>24142 >"But anon, what if wanted to have... TWO opinions?!"

>>24209 Click the crossed circle. Filter by ID only filters the fag, filter plus filters the fag and everyone replying to the fag.

>>24201 >a non-ID board as well, and divide episode (well actually fucking whole cour threads with 1000 bumps) thread traffic further?

>>24205 >a schizo who really wants to fuck with the perception of an anime for some reason will just shuffle his id That doesn't work, we can see how many posts you make in a thread. How many IPs can a person honestly have? If you want more than two you have to pay for a VPN, otherwise everytime you cycle you're never getting that IP back and it looks mighty retarded.

>>24210 >yeah bro my (20) is superior to your (1) Aight.

>>24159 >At this point I legitimately don't even understand the point you are trying to make beyond "IDs icky because I say so". Sorry that reading comprehension escapes you 40877f. The point is IDs can create an environment that stifles freedom of thought. Will it always? No. Not necessarily. I also post on some /v/ threads without any issue, but I accepted that I would have an "identity" in those threads. Is an "identity" something that is acceptable within these spaces? Does having this "identity" prove to yield more pros than cons? Dunno. I'm not even entirely against IDs, and I understand their usefulness against samefagging and whatnot. My only worry is that because this board is so slow that IDs become a defacto "account" for a given thread. Perhaps I am truly considering this incorrectly. >>24175 >It's not a good point, anyone that really wants to change their ID will just do the procedure they already did on 4chan to ban evade due to pissy jannies. You missed the point, it isn't that it's trivial to just change IDs, it's that things don't get recycled here.

>>24225 It’s literally >guy clearly obsessed with socially validating himself wants ids Color me surprised

I'll reply in a bit, I'm trying to play with a userscript.

If you're the usual anon with dynamic IP then ID persistence is limited to 12/24 hours (or the lease time set by your ISP). >t Kikuri anon that just got a new IP >>24201 This. Worst case scenario is creating a second /a/, id and no-ID, choosing by participation is far better than endless argumentation or voting. Forced coexistence to repeat 4/a/ isn't exactly free, unlike 4c this IB have a few extra tools...

>>24225 id trust a 4-7 more than a 1-2 to not be a quick ip change >>24227 >because this board is so slow that IDs become a defacto "account" for a given thread essence of it

>>24217 People sensitive against ID would post less if at all on an ID board anyway. Setting IDs split traffic just it's not as visible.

>>24238 The board is about to flop.

Man, this is a waste of time and clearly evidence that IDs are needed. 5ch had to implement IDs for the very same reason, this isn't even abnormal. It was just 4chan being very behind with the times. Man, people can't even breath without samefagging any more, huh? The absolute panic this has caused is astounding.

>>24227 > this board is so slow that IDs become a defacto "account" for a given thread Why is this supposed to be a bad thing? What do you want to do that you want IDs gone?

This is my sixth ID itt btw

>>24239 I was actually thinking about keeping certain threads to an ID-only board, but splitting the board didn't seem like a good idea. I'll keep it in mind.

>>24239 I vote for the creation of /ab/ which would be an anime version of /vb/ for the fags that really want to samefag themselves 50 times before anyone even enters the thread. /vb/ also doesn't have IDs.

>>24260 >why is no longer being anonymous on an anonymous imageboard bad I swear to god did any of you people even post on 4ch

>>24272 I did, that is exactly the reason why I want IDs. Again, what do you want to do that you want IDs gone?

I will make a super serious post with many thought out and well articulated arguments and then proudly post "girl has cute feet and I love her!'

>he assumes his histrionic faggot behavior is the standard and everyone unlike him is innately a bad actor Normie

>>24278 Based fag that doesn't need irony blankets to survive.

>>24142 Im just saying, /pol/ had ids and they end up caring more about flags than who they were talking about Aall this shit about anxiety over being called a fag for a previous post sounds insane when they can call you a fag for any number of things

Are the pro id guys all polfags that would explain a lot

>>24278 >webp works nice! >>24260 ids resetting after some time. but volunteer anon just said it's not easy to do without admin intervention.

>>24260 >Why is this supposed to be a bad thing? because I come to imageboards for their anonymous nature. If I wanted an "account" for my posts I'd just go on reddit like a retarded faggot. Like I said before, if this were a really fast board, likely this is a very moot point and we all move on with our lives, except this isn't that. >What do you want to do that you want IDs gone? Nothing I don't already do, which is just post what I want, when I want. Having IDs or not does not stop me from doing so, as was already established in this thread. It is trivial to change an ID. >>24285 >Im just saying, /pol/ had ids and they end up caring more about flags than who they were talking about Where the fuck do you think 1PBTID came from?

>>24259 5ch also have 200 posts AT MOST every hour? Only point here is that ID's do not fix anything but they do bring extra problems, and I have yet to see the shitposting people are talking about. >inb4 here are some epic screenshots from /vt/, the place I visit the most by the way

>>24257 How will we survive without solo leveling threads and people making a billion posts to downvote seasonal anime they don't like?

Toggle opacity by id script Use case: I don't want to completely filter out posts by id but this would help me make some posters less distracting when I browse. https://pastebin.com/x06P0HtK Do you guys think this userscript is useful enough to edit into the OP? It: - makes opacity for 1pbtid posters lower - you can click the white circle emoji next to a post to toggle 50% opacity for all posts by an ID (works across .se and .moe) It also might be lagging my browser like crazy, can someone report in to see if it happens to you too? Here's an alt without the 1pbtid feature. https://pastebin.com/WS2UTvhS

>>24278 >>24298 >Where the fuck do you think 1PBTID came from? From people samefagging and thinking it would work when IDs exist. Something you seem to be upset about. At this point I'm going to assume you are either a DBS fag seething he can't samefag half the thread anymore or a gookfag crying he can't shill for free the trash he finds on cuckdex.

>>24306 Waaaaaaaaaaah I’m going to have a melty if people express opinions I don’t like too often

>>24312 Hm, new posts don't have the new button. Let me see if I can fix that and then I want to be done with editing this script lol. Anyway please let me know if this slows down your PC to all hell and back.

>>24318 >Didn't deny being a SL pajeet. Telling.

>>24300 >5ch also have 200 posts AT MOST every hour No? Some boards get hundreds of posts per minute last I checked.

What if you could just opt out of having an id; idfags can filter out posters without an id to keep up their normie horseshit and people who want to post anonymously are free to. I assume it’d take some work to implement but it seems like another possible approach besides splitting the board

>>24312 >- you can click the white circle emoji next to a post to toggle 50% opacity for all posts by an ID (works across .se and .moe) good >- makes opacity for 1pbtid posters lower not so good but more options = good

>>24333 >normie T e l l i n g .

>>24312 >>24323 Okay, testing to see if my new post gets opacity-50%'d.

>>24313 >At this point I'm going to assume you are either a DBS fag seething he can't samefag half the thread anymore or a gookfag crying he can't shill for free the trash he finds on cuckdex. I am neither of these, and do not care for either groups of people. Regardless, I see we've come to an impasse on the matter, I have no interest in arguing any further with someone who is doing so in bad faith. Have a good rest of your morning/day/evening, wherever you are. I'm gonna go back to posting in the threads I've accepted having an ID in.

>>24327 Only places I’ve posted here were the discussion threads for ninkoro and apocalypse hotel, also waiting for the mono one I guess. Shounenshit is beyond retarded but your need to define me by what other anime I like is insane

>>24333 so, none of the benefits and all of the retarded attention seeking badges? マジ？

>>24339 That I’m not a normie? That I’m in the main userbase for 4chan? Yeah I guess it does say that

>>24333 Why don't you just post like a sane person for a few days and see how that works out for you

>>24352 >He doesn't get it. Lol.

>>24344 You could opt to filter all non-id posts and keep your circlejerk going, at least in my theoretical view of it

>>24352 Nobody tell him

>circlejerking over someone using a word they don’t like Proving my point

>>24329 You see, I would get the point of IDs in this situation, but that's not the case here and I'm not sure what else to add to the conversation now, whoever would make problems in such a slow board would be easily spotted, as easily as with IDs, making IDs not bring any pro to the table, and only possible cons.

>>24367 Now I really get why you are against IDs.

>>24371 >whoever would make problems in such a slow board would be easily spotted Reminder this only became a slow board exactly because turning IDs on made 99% of the shitposting vanish instantly.

>>24371 These people just want a way to lord theoretical social capital over each other there’s no point in bothering

>>24333 Anon, what the fuck do you do in 4chan/8chan that has you like this?

>>24383 I talk about anime, what’s up with you to keep you from understanding why people might like anonymity?

>>24382 Just out of curiosity because you really don't seem to get it, would you take seriously the opinions of someone posting wojaks and saying "tranime"?

>>24375 don't threaten me with a good time anon

>>24375 Weren't IDs implemented recently? I'm precisely talking about my experience with this place for the last 3 days, whatever made this shitposting(I still haven't seen) disappear wasn't the IDs.

>>24371 IDs don't bother me and they are clearly upsetting people who would otherwise abuse them with what ifs. Like you just know some faggot's seasonal is about to air and he was planning to reply to himself 80 times. If someone wants to complain about the posts I'm making with an ID I don't give a shit, I'm not bitchmade. I just want samefags to burn.

>>24395 >I don't give a shit, I'm not bitchmade Why are Renge posters so strong? I cower at their presence.

>>24389 Let's talk about anime then, what's your opinion on people that say "moeshit"?

>>24393 >Weren't IDs implemented recently? Yes, they're not even a day old yet

>>24393 This place (and most altchans) improved compared to 4ch since the majority of shitters and poltards moved to shithead party it’s pretty straightforward in my eyes

Discourse creates spice, which is why ids are le bad /dbs/ is a good example of it, since its a really funny thread to read

>>24389 >>24395 >If someone wants to complain about the posts I'm making with an ID I don't give a shit, I'm not bitchmade. I just want samefags to burn. Seconding this.

>>24391 No I’d just ignore him, maybe report if it’s spammy; and the iq of someone that retarded would show in their opinions without the two being directly connected for me

>>24333 >What if you could just opt out of having an id If changing IDs is a easy as you say then you already can do this, if it's not that easy then IDs prove their value by stopping mentally ill samefags

>>24418 Unfortunately ignoring is not an option because 95% of the thread is like that. What do you do then?

>>24391 Which wojaks? The really bad sharty edits or just like, those old ones where everyone's hugging and talking about knowing that feel? No way on tranime though. Lesser beings those people.

>>24424 Report for spam

Honestly repeating it because it's worth repeating. Fuck samefags, your discourse should stand on it's own, not because you astroturfed it to shit.

https://greasyfork.org/en/scripts/533297-8chan-single-id-post-opacity-with-thread-specific-cross-domain-toggle Okay I'm gonna add this to the OP I think.

>>24427 Congratulations on getting a 3 day vacation. See you in 72 hours, because that's how it works on 4chan.

>>24435 Woah it’s almost as if competent mods innately solve the issue

>>24432 >your discourse Not sure if you are purposely ignoring all the points people are talking about or you really don't get it but hey, you already admitted that "ignoring is not an option".

>>24438 Yeah and competent mods would just leave IDs on.

>>24432 calm your tits ydhra didn't read the post btw

>>24444 Circular logic competition won, I kneel

>>24441 Ignoring is indeed not an option when a single schizo can easily be 95% of any given thread.

>>24458 >I lack pattern recognition and this is everyone else’s issue

You see, TOR works, unlike 4chan. People that values anonymity can use it. ASAT.

>>24462 >and this is everyone else’s issue You are doing this with your weird social anxiety tho.

>>24458 Something IDs do not fix if said schizo is around.

>>24447 >I kneel Yeah, that explains it.

>>24474 >he hates funposting Yeah, that explains it

>>23677 Just reset your router newfriend (PhoneposterGODS eating well)

>>24476 Cancer like you is what ruined /a/ in the first place

>24473 >*Filter by ID*. It very much literally does. >But they can change IP and ban evade. Something that takes 5-10 minutes and it's extremely easily noticeable.

8ff219, 40877f,

>>24209 >>24215 Shilling my greasyfork to lower opacity for posts instead of outright filtering them for any fellow FOMObros who are afraid of missing out on a good post https://greasyfork.org/en/scripts/533297-8chan-single-id-post-opacity-with-thread-specific-cross-domain-toggle Please let me know if it lags your browser. I genuinely can't tell if it's doing that or if my computer is just shitting itself for other reasons.

>>24485 Based desu

>>24473 If 80% of the thread is IDs with a single post then you pretty much know it's all just one schizo

>>24476 You really still don't get it?

>>24476 >funposting You really don't get it.

>>24493 I don’t know what there is to get outside of me not being in some imagined clique of yours and that pissing you off since you’re a normie

>>24014 This happens without IDs too. You just get tagged as "Xfag" or "Yschizo" and some very dedicated shitposter will drag out a long compilation of esoteric screenshot "proofs" about how everyone who ever made a statement disagreeing with him is actually the same person from Zforum

>>24389 >what’s up with you to keep you from understanding why people might like anonymity? Well, for one, you haven't explained why you want it so much beyond "I don't want to be called on my bullshit, or called names, or be caught samefagging"

>>24503 Hence me thinking it’s retarded to so strongly enable faggotry like that

>>24500 Guess I will just say it directly because "funposting" fags are not that smart. You just admitted you want IDs gone because you want to spam shitposts and that weird social anxiety shit was just an excuse. This discussion is over, you just proved IDs are objectively a good thing.

>>24504 I want my posts to be judged on individual merit and not whatever image people have formed based on my id, take that as you will

>>24507 Lmao

>>24503 Fucking Jack. I'm telling you that fucker's about right now. In fact, it's probably you isn't it? You're Jack.

>>24503 It's worse without IDs because actual shitposters will just copy your posting style while samefagging about Xschizos just to shit on whatever you said.

>>24503 Of course name dropping (some even samefag that) makes the problem worse. You can avoid schizos making a name if users by their own can ignore them early.

>>24508 You are free to ban evade anon, you are obviously familiar with how given you want to "funpost" so much.

>>23983 After this trial period, I at least hope we have a referendum where people can vote whether or not to keep IDs

>>24505 Having plenty of experience posting on boards both with and without IDs I'd say that it's not really an issue in practice but I understand that this isn't a convincing argument on its face. In practice, most people don't really engage with the ID system most of the time unless there's something egregious going on. It's unintrusive enough that you just sorta ignore it usually.

>>24518 I’m impressed by your ability to presume things about other people anon

>>24491 You can notice the same thing without the ID. But I feel we are going in circles now and I'm not young anymore, I'm leaving this thread forever until the next unneeded change.

>>24526 >until the next unneeded change wwwwww

>>24520 That seems like an okay idea? We can ask the board owner and maybe run it soon-ish.

>>24521 My issue is largely that it feels against the spirit of 4chan’s /a/; although I’ll admit I’m running half off of a hate boner now since the biggest proponent is clearly a cliquey unempathetic faggot and a douche

>>24531 People that don't want IDs already admitted to being shitposters. Expect the poll to get botted to shit.

>>24520 How would you validate the votes? Samefags are gonna be themselves.

>>24487 uooooooh it's so clean.... the big circle triggered my autismo though

>>24537 Schizogod

>Total installs: 0 C'mon guys... install it... Tell me if it's shit... https://greasyfork.org/en/scripts/533297-8chan-single-id-post-opacity-with-thread-specific-cross-domain-toggle

>>24540 >>24537 If I don't like the results I'll just veto the results (or try to, maybe Board Owner-sama will slap me)

>>24536 Sorry for not wanting your spam, you are free to go back to 4chan when it inevitably comes back.

>>24508 So, what? Some of your posts have negative merit? You're a shit-stirrer but also an effort-poster in the same threat? If you weren't such a pussy i would tell you to own it, but yeah, i can see why you want to stay anonymous

>>24552 lmao

>>24555 I just have a tendency to act retarded by accident and the complete anonymity of the threads makes me worry a lot less about spilling my spaghetti, this thread is basically the most hostile I’ve ever been on 4chan or an adjacent site desu; not that I expect the presumptuous dickhead I’ve been arguing with to understand

I'm mixed on IDs and think that they might really only be beneficial on a per-thread basis (as in, BVs can switch a thread to have IDs if they want to, off by default). Obviously they help mitigate schizo behavior, but they also create a "profile" for individuals in threads, which I don't really like all that much. One alternative I like is the (Me) tag. Similar to (You), any time you respond to yourself, the quote will be tagged as such. This doesn't completely stop schizo behavior but certainly helps. Probably not possible without software modification. Another is a per-person "brand," something that BVs can place on an individual that acts as a retroactive ID within the thread. This might not have much use, since users that would be "branded" probably should be banned outright, but maybe there are situations that aren't severe enough to call for a ban. Just like above I'm unsure if this would require software modification. It might also be useful to have a "vote" to "brand" someone, but obviously, validating unique votes is more difficult than a simple IP check, and can be abused.

>>24566 Just own up to it pussy.

>>24568 >(Me) tag post from just 2 ips and it's joever

>>24568 I hope you realize IDs are already per thread and not global or per board.

The funny part of this thread is its progression, it started with the ID and now there's even a tool to change the opacity of single posters. >Heh, that's useless, I can avoid it with just 2 simple steps >3 steps >10 steps >...

>>24576 Same as ID, but it would be less terrifying for the ID haters

>>24578 I think he meant that you could turn on IDs for select threads only, which I mentioned to Codexx, but it's not a feature currently.

>>24574 You seem really pleasant and like someone I’d want to share a thread with so you’re right yeah

>>24587 Just filter me and you don't have to, pussy.

>>24587 It's inevitable that people might not be super nice in a long and protracted argument with two clearly opposed sides, but I hope you won't let your experience from this thread linger on too much. Let's all be kind to each other the next time we (anonymously) meet.

>get week long ban for "spam" because i'm engaging in disucssion on multiple threads in quick successon please tell me this is a dumb automatic thing and not some retard janny

>>24188 this is such a tactless display of fearmongering that i have to wonder if you failed out of spook academy or were just born that way

>>24566 >No, i can't say "im sorry, i got it wrong" or "I changed my mind" >If i do my ego will break into a million pieces and i will die You have the smallest cock and balls on this thread

>>24544 Sorry I'm a phone poster so I will never use it.

>>24599 Multiple people already admitted to want to do just that anon.

>>24599 He seems like a massive asshole in general so I’m not surprised his baseline is trying to push people around via fearmongering >>24604 Never said that, just that I irrationally worry about being stupid in threads; sorry your brain is too small for you to have basic empathy

>>24568 I like the (me) tag idea >>24576 What about a per post IP reply counter?

>>24597 It is probably something automatic, sharty is still ddosing and spamming.

>>24544 I tried your script because you asked nicely. First things first, the behavior should be enabled by default. If I am downloading a script for a purpose, I am not expecting to have to turn it on. It should be on by default. Second, it looks to work and decrease opacity for 1pbtid posts. Lastly, the circle next to every post to opaque it is dumb imo and just clutters the post header even more than it already is/can be. I would just remove it, but if you like and think it's necessary, it is your script.

>>24597 I can't find any active bans that have "spam" as the Reason field? Well, if you're evading already I guess I won't have to search for the ban to lift it, but thanks for pointing it out.

>>24612 > just that I irrationally worry about being stupid in threads Then be less stupid and think twice before you click "reply". If you want to "funpost" just go back to 4chan when it goes back up.

>>24544 what's this supposed to do? Highlight a single id?

>>24594 You seem well meaning, sorry you’re subject to so much bickering here

>>24631 >>24542

>>24619 By "enabled by default", are you referring to the 1pbtid part? I realized that it's probably better to have people enable that manually because I think most people will want that feature off. Just a gut feeling. Thanks for your feedback.

>>24633 I'm actually not well-meaning at all, I just hide my rancor and evil schemes with cute pics

>>24639 Ah naruhodo

>>24640 Yes, CHECK_UNIQUE_IDS should be true by default when I install the script. I shouldn't have to go into my userscript editor and turn it on. >I realized that it's probably better to have people enable that manually because I think most people will want that feature off. Are you intending this script to be a generic "opaque a post of your choosing" script? If so, then I can understand it. However, I assumed this was a "opaque all 1pbtid posts" script. Quite possibly a misunderstanding on my part.

>>24641 Kowai… I have fallen for a devious scheme…

>>24646 It was the latter at the start, but last-minute I figured that when certain conditions are present, the former kind of script ("opaque all 1pbtid") might be a nuisance so I made it off by default.

>>24611 Where?

>>24651 Total ninja annihilation.

>>24652 Alright, then I can understand your decision. Thanks for making the script, I very likely won't be using it, but I am sure others will find it helpful.

>>24661 >I very likely won't be using it

>>24651 Total ninja annihilation.

>>24667 Haha, I just have no use for it. I'll just hide/ignore any posts I don't care to look at.

>>24659 >>24668

does anyone use the search by image extension on firefox? why the fuck does doing image search using lens with it not work

>>24672 >I doubleposted time for bed.

Is it possible to implement the 15 minute cooldown too?

>>24680 maybe the cdn/api is on jewish settings and won't serve to lens/saucenao in a format it can take

>>24680 8chan requires authorization to view anything, so third party services can't see the URLs you give it. Best work around is saving the image/taking a screenshot and uploading it to the service.

Anon forgot that reaching bump limit does not equal to making a new thread.

IDs are good, unobtrusive and don't invalidate the (between posters) anonymity. >inb4 b-but they are like user accounts!! No because first, they are temporary and only assigned per thread and, second, they are session and ipbased, so chances are you may even get a different one mid conversation or just by changing device or browser. IDs are good because, coupled with the IP counter, make more difficult for shitposters to astroturf conversations. >inb4 b-but they can still do that! Requires more effort and time which alone is enough of a deterrent. Also they are good because greatly facilitate filtering posts per user basis inside a thread. >inb4 b-but that invalidates the anonymity that allows for having to take each individual post at face value! Arguably but that's only per thread basis and only after a certain pattern is formed per particular user perception, in practice is just a simplified form of hiding shitposts which doesn't require to go for ech individual one. A good mid ground is to have filtering by ID just blurring the offending post rather than straight hiding them (as suggested by the Board Volunteer kun userscript). In short the advantages greatly outweigh the allegedly disadvantages, for me IDs have to stay.

>>23847 Sounds hilarious, link?

>>24696 >Requires more effort and time which alone is enough of a deterrent. you literally just have to change to one of the alt urls hell sometimes you just get a new ID randomly for no reason

>>24687 >>24659 >>24668 *screenshots*

>>24691 You'd have to message Codexx on #8chan IRC or post on >>>/site/ for feature suggestions I think.

>>24693 i've got saucenao open in another window and just ctrl+c ctrl+v images into it. annoying but saves me the trouble of saving the images.

Is it really against the rules to schizo samefag? Should it be allowed as long as someone does it openly and people can see his IDs? In dead imageboards you have threads with OPs samefagging their threads for months, treating them like their personal blogs. They're not even trying to hide their samefagging and nobody seems to care either.

>implement ID >DBS thread grinds to a halt DBspic bros, owari da

>>24730 I think the difference is context, usually if you're trying to deceive people into thinking you're not the same person. If someone's dumping a manga chapter nobody calls that guy a samefag for posting 20-30 pages in a single thread on cooldown.

>>24730 LMAO you're not even trying anymore huh.

>>24730 >Is it really against the rules to schizo samefag? It's not even against the rules to shitpost. >Shitposting is allowed, but don't destroy legitimate discussions going on

>>24738 They are all here trying to play victim and gaslight the jannies into removing IDs.

>>24707 >you literally just have to change to one of the alt urls Which they are 3 in total (counting the tor one) and only the .se one is reliable enough. As you can see it's easy to spot a potential pattern if the shitposter rely exclusively to alternate urls, especially coupling the information with the IP counter. >hell sometimes you just get a new ID randomly for no reason Which doesn't give any advantage to shitposters, the change happens randomly as you stated.

>>24730 >treating them like their personal blogs. There's nothing wrong with that. I've done it on /m/. Make a thread about show, watch an episode, then make a post. There are 2-3 more people who would from time to time show up in the thread. Slow boards are like that.

>>24738 Why do they even care about thread ids? Those threads are 100% shitposts.

>>24779 Maybe there's a simple solution that would work for everyone. We could disable IDs and instead autoban anyone who posts in /dbs/.

>>24779 But now their shitposts aren’t genuine anymore

>>24788 Gents... Get him.

>>23847 Only for a moment. Now they treat IP reset like a super saiyan upgrade.

Why does my id keeps changing?

I hope mods are just entertaining the fuckers wanting ID gone. That thing actually stop most shitposts.

I just got assigned the same id as another anon in the gup thread, how does that even happen?

>>24798 Still the same in this thread. huh.

>>24792 Oh for fuck's sake, this place is no good after all.

>>24810 Sorry... it was just a joke.

>>24815 mods pls ban he grief ;(

>>23859 Just ban DBS posting. Problem solved. >>23983 Overall this feels less like actually solving the problem, and more like the standard political/corporate bullshit of doing something that could be implemented in five seconds to appear as if "we're doing SOMETHING(tm)" without actually solving the problem because the real solution would be hard or unpopular.

Ids are a bit annoying because I have a frequent habit of making multiple responses to the same post but with different tones Ie giving a joke reply and then a serious one right after, or argeeing and then nitpicking a detail I also would just generally play both sides alot I think it would be worth it though, even if I needed to be less schizophrenic I will probably just keep posting the same and ignore it, why would anyone even care

>>24849 i care, i would laugh at you but without ids i would take you seriously

>>23599 Test

>>24866 Did it work?

Also testing because there are issues caused by the new server they brought online.

I'm not testing Just having a good time

>>24802 Luck, someone said the id takes the last 6 digits of a sha sum. The full hash would be less likely to collide but more unwieldy

>>24849 I do the same. I see the merits of both sides. It's a difficult decision. I was mostly joking when I said "ban /dbs/" but in reality the situation is thus: IDs aren't needed if there's no unwanted behavior, and if there IS unwanted behavior, you could just ban those guys. It's hard to say. On the one hand it does prevent funposting, but on the other hand you have to remember in the modern day we share internets with indians, mexicans, and other such types. >>24870 DON'T. STOP HIM NOW. HE'S HAVING A BALL.

>>24869 Did it work?

>>24802 He's not a different anon, you just forgot to take your meds.

>>24876 >we share internets with indians, mexicans, and other such types. Russian IPs are already banned, just rangeban those countries as well.

>>24870 And are you?

Time for me to test something as well

>>23983 >earlier I made a "cute feet" post and now feel self-conscious about doing serious discussion in the same thread with the same ID Use the alturls for compartmentalize your persona if you can't detach yourself from your posts, be a reasonable and serious individual on .se and a spaghetti spilling unhinged autist on .moe, is just a matter of having the same thread open on two tabs. And before anyone may say that it counts as disingenuous samefagging the IP count and the fact there are only 3 alturls makes any serious effort in samefagging using only the alturls greatly inefficient.

And another test of something...

>>24877 Worked on my pc, now let's see if my phone has the same id like it should.

>>24849 Just use mobile data or reset your router if you're that dedicated.

Is there a way to put threads with keywords to top?

>>24889 I did have a good time, thanks for asking

>>24876 >On the one hand it does prevent funposting Good. Be an attention whoring twittard somewhere else.

>>24921 You could request it in the userscript thread >>>/b/474864 if it's not a native feature. (I dunno)

>>21015 Absolutely based. I still think the best solution is for the site owner to implement a feature where OPs can choose to enable IDs for a thread, like on 4ch (I think). Since some threads have massive, crippling samefag problems but for others it's really not a big deal. IDs meaningfully improve the quality of the former while not harming the latter *too* much, so I think it's worth it. >>22434 That in itself opens up stronger filtering options, since I can now more aggressively filter posts by IDs with only 1 or 2 posts. Plus it inconveniences them, which is helpful.

>>24958 And I'll add that when 4chan's /a/ comes back, it obviously won't have IDs, so might as well keep them here. People who dislike them can just go back. >>23677 >if posts will be judged >>23705 >once you made a "wrong" opinion you will not be able to participate in the discussion >>23837 >then I'm basically not allowed to post again Anon, these are problems you have created inside your own head. They're not real, you can post whatever the fuck you want, the judgement of other anons does not matter and they can't stop you from posting in a thread.

>>24540 ask for a cryptographically signed DNA test

remove ids, people who are on that level of shitposting thjat it would help are easily capable of changing them anyways. other that that it just strips away a level of anonymity.

>>25016 If everyone saying a certain thing is 1pbtid, that will be a clue in and of itself

>>25039 >1pbtid wat

>>25053 One post by this id It's more commonly said on 4ch boards with id's

>>25055 oh okay. i never visited those, they give me the creeps.

>>25058 Understandable They were the most spammed boards

>>25016 Shitposters should at the very least be inconvenienced instead of being given free reign. Your ID changes with every thread so I don't see a problem regarding anonymity. It's not like it's gonna become kiwifarms because of the that

So as far as I understand it was only like 2 or 3 threads that had any kind of problems? Has this experiment actually mitigated the problem? Like for good?

>>24108 I don't spam though, because usually someone else replies for me

>>25058 yeah, those boards always tended to spook me off and i never got into them

>>25062 if for example you say something in a thread thats an unpopular opinion you might get "burned" from the discussion in that thread later on, when you dont wanna engage with the replies to that post anymore but people still always get back to that because the id is the same.

>>25112 >but people still always get back to that because the id is the same. ...just ignore them? Those people are never going to engage in meaningful discussion anyway if they resort to that.

>>25112 yeah, i would say this id thing is pretty much the same as being on discord. also they can't use the 'it changes every thread' card because it can take a while for a thread to reach completion and for a new one to be made, by that time you've missed many opportunities to say what you want to say

>>25121 thats an unfair generalization, people can get emotionally invested in an argument but still be able to engage meaningfully on a different topic if they dont know theyre talking to the same person

>>25058 >>25109 >they give me the creeps. >those boards always tended to spook me off I don't understand, can you explain why without relying on "vibes"? Were you afraid that the discussion there drew attention from the authorities?

>>25112 I've been on boards with IDs for ages and no one really gives a shit about what you said earlier as long as you don't go full retard. And with full retard I mean 50+ pbtid shit that is basically all spam and insults. I would however not mind making them a bit more ephemeral, like resetting them every 24 hours or something, if the threads really last for a while.

Also, testing

>>23685 The site is still slow and threads last so long, that ID's still end up being a pseudo username, even if they get purged in the next thread. Frankly I don't see the point, even if you can see the ID it doesn't stop someone from being a shitposter, the only thing that can do that is active moderation that actually prunes posts that are clogging up the board.

>>25131 no, it's just back as a newfag i was a lot more conscious and didn't want to sound cringe or embarrass myself

>>25062 Post timers were the only thing that were a real inconvenience to anyone in the first place

>>25123 >it changes every thread' card It changes also mid thread between sessions, days or even at random, also you can literally manually change it by resetting you connection, changing your browser or going through an alturl. Yet they are useful because are an added layer of functionality (you can group-select posts easily) and an extra obstacle on the shitposters way.

it feels like the more i keep posting the more i will be scrutinized and eventually people will start attacking me

>>25160 Changing your browser doesn't seem to work, at least it doesn't for me and this will probably be the third post with the same ID despite each one being posted with a different browser. But yeah, if you really want to avoid them, it's not exactly impossible, it just stops the laziest shitposters from replying to the same post a dozen times.

None of the boards on this site move fast enough to justify thread IDs. 4chan needed them on the bigger boards. Here you'll have threads up for weeks or months with shit opinions tied to your ID being called out all the while. It'll kill discussions. Samefagging is a necessary evil.

>4chan >but with reddit accounts What's not to fucking love?

>>25129 If someone can't emotionally detach from an unpopular opinion and allows that to affect their interaction with the same person on a different topic, that's on them.

>>25186 Just change your IP if it bothers you that much

>>25171 These are my posts: >>24696 >>24762 >>24894 >>25160 As you can see i already changed ID once since this morning and i'm still using the same device (a smartphone, picrel for proof).

Fuck you and your ID thing. I'm not coming back to this board. Enjoy your Reddit 2.0.

>>25197 Everyone keeps on bringing up how easy it is to bypass, if its so easy then what's the point? It's just another talking unrelated talking point that only serves to fuel more offtopic arguments. Actual bad faith posters will always get around it, meanwhile posters who just want to make a funny and stupid comment and not have it related to their actual serious effort posts now have to work around it, like >>23983

>>25207 If you're using your phone's mobile data it's not surprising, you probably got a new IP after a while.

Another test, after clicking the funny plane icon

And now I'm just using my wifi

>>25186 >Samefagging is a necessary evil. I don't think so, and some threads on some boards move fast enough but that only means that IDs should be enabled on some select threads, if at all

>>25131 Hm, i think it has to do with why i am on imageboard in the first place. For me they are the true place of the internet, where very different people come together with all kinds of opinions to talk to each other without the supersticions of real life. Being able to combine different posts of a user might make some people go into shizo mode and interpreting stuff into said posts. I think the id stuff for me is comparable with avatarfagging wich on most 4c boards is banned. >>25143 gets it The boards with ids were, if i remember right, mostly boards for real life stuff, wich, in my opinion, has nothing to do with what 4c is (or was) supposed to be. That said i know some weirdos have to get banned, but i would either try to make and enforce better rules or ban the extreme shizos more regularly like >>25143 said. >>25137 > resetting them every 24 hours or something this might work if its way shorter, like 2h maybe.

>>25215 >if its so easy then what's the point? The vast majority of shitposters will get filtered by the extra layer, no matter how minor it is. That's already a major improvement. The most aggressive shitposters will keep to it, of course, but at least there's a toll on them now.

You guys act like you're going to stay here for a long time or something, instead of just waiting until 4ch is back up. I personally don't care what the BO and BVs do. It's their board. If you don't like it, you can always go to other altchans. In 2013-2017 a lot of people tried to leave 4ch. They were eager to participate and voice their opinions on the new boards (old 8ch, etc.), and so on, but most of them eventually went back to 4ch (except for /pol/).

>>24159 They are reddit. That ought to be a strong enough argument, because all my suggestions of self moderation features were rejected as other 4chan users as reddit.

>>25257 > as other by other*

>>25243 Says you, I only came back after Cuckflare ruined everything after the El Paso shooting.

Every single one of you has samefagged before. Don't lie.

>>25291 This is me.

>>25291 Wise and true

>>25291 True

>>25291 I still do I guess, I have niche show interests so I have to keep the threads alive for awhile until other Anons join in on the discussion I'm still doing it anyways, but it will get a bit awkward after awhile

>>25291 True, but only with different IPs, because I remember a mod pointing out a samefag once before 2010.

>>25291 I wish I didn't have to.

>>25307 If you need to bump twice in a row, it's over, and you should just wait to see if anyone else catches

>>25307 sex

I just think each post should stand on its own, rather than it being tied to the posts the same person made before and after in the same thread.

>>25330 In a perfect world, yes I don't think they have the technology to allow vote ids like 2chan

>>25291 It was necessary to keep my thread alive, especially in 4chan where your thread can die by just hours of inactivity.

>>25291 Projection.

>>25291 Are two shitposts in a row also samefagging? I don't reply to myself while doing it.

>>25291 Occasionally I reply to the pages of manga I storytime, but that's just because I hate OPs that comment on the manga as they post. I consider my identity as the dumper and as a reader separate.

>>25343 >I hate OPs that comment on the manga as they post Same here, those OPs are attention whores.

I like how angry some people are. This tells me the admin did something good. :3

>>25395 With that logic the shitposters did great by angering others and should've let do their thing. :3

>>25291 You were supposed to samefag to your own post to complete the joke, numbnuts

>>25443 Yes but you could be me. They can't tell anymore.

test

>>25442 Are the shitposters admins? I thought not. :3

>>25331 >vote ids like 2chan how do those work?

>>25466 Doesn't matter whether they are or not :3

>>23983 >These are good points, for example earlier I made a "cute feet" post and now feel self-conscious about doing serious discussion in the same thread with the same ID. Nobody cares, by default everyone on this website are degenerates anyway. There might be an issue if you start loliposting, but there are separate threads for that.

So one time when I was still a noob, I made a thread and then I started samefagging for the clout by fighting myself and making an artificial fued, can't remember what it was about but it was funny and that's all that mattered to me. I didn't realize the page had the unique ip counter. It was at one the entire time. Then someone pointed it out to me and I died from embarrassment.

Another point: So far we don't have an actual archive, so it's harder to make a breadcrumb trail to your "identify". And if even so, you can just deny everything and go for that plausible deniability.

>LOL U HAVE NOTHING TO HIDE Fuck ID defenders.

>>25395 would you support it too if admins turn on flags and more people got angry?

>>25492 >he thinks he is going to compromise himself in SINGLE THREAD Hardcore shitposter right here.

>>25291 Nope, not even once, if i ever reply twice i make it clear im the same anon for clarity's sake Its funny, the same kind of shitposter anon will say IDs are useless but also foam at the mouth and try their hardest to have them removed

>>25498 It's not that hard to link images someone posts with some word usage statistics.

REMOVE IDS

>>25291 Yeah. Every thread shouldn't feel like a discord server

Sorry for interrupting the IDebacle, but anyone knows if there is something like (Blue) Clover for the altchans? >infb phoneposter lol It's a pain otherwise to follow some scattered threads otherwise, PC or not. Everything I find is abandonware even older than the supposedly deprecated BC. Thanks.

>>25215 As this >>25236 anon explained it's a matter of extra layers on the samefag/shiposter way but there also the matter of permanency: once you change your ID it's lost, you can't act as your previous persona, which leads to a chain of 1pwtIDs if the samefag is a retard or if he's not an increase in effort and time spent (dedicated devices or virtual profiles for keeping various ID active). In short ID very much fuck samefags and disingenuous shits.

>>25521 https://github.com/moffatman/chan Posting doesn't work though.

>>25496 Absolutely.

>>25524 >once you change your ID it's lost Pffft haha

>>25518 that's literally what this is, it's like joining a discord server but for each thread.

>>25534 Thanks >Posting doesn't work though. That's fine, I'm the king of lurkers.

>>25524 This will lead every single first time posters getting accused of being a schizo or shitposter. I saw this often enough on ID enabled 4chan boards.

>>25524 I don't buy it. If someone cares enough to be a hardcore samefag they'll care enough to bypass it.

>>25541 Unless you purposely keep hold into it, yes, it is lost (inside the specific thread). It can be randomly reassigned in the same thread but that's beyond the poster direct control as-is.

>>25619 >It can be randomly reassigned in the same thread but that's beyond the poster direct control as-is. When or why does that happen?

Why does this board allow vtubers when they already have their own?

>>25635 If there aren't sprecific precautions in place i think it may be possible, i don't know the odds of it.

>>25635 apparently someone on /gup/ had that happen to him >>24802

>>25674 1/(16^6), technically. Or around 1/17m.

>>25674 >>25687 It's time based, not fully random

>>25671 They seem to be going for a hands-off moderation style.

/dbs/ is slowly losing their mind over the ID implementation.

>>25492 The similarity to “nothing to hide nothing to fear” retardation in every argument and the fact that pol already had ids has me convinced the pro-id guys are poltards or something

>>25722 ? where

I really like the auto catalog updater.

>>25549 >This will lead every single first time posters getting accused of being a schizo or shitposter. The solution being making more high quality posts

>>25291 Only in bocchi threads our good friend needed a lot of help to stay alive on 4chan's /a/

Neither .moe or .se are working without VPN in my Europen shithole, AGAIN. Gives me 404.

i like it, filter by ID is great for filtering out the non-ban evading shitposters who come into threads baiting for (you)s

>>25825 Yesterday .moe 404'd in my shithole and today both .se and .moe work. Idk what's the pattern here.

(1) here, I like IDs. They don't keep schizos away but makes it easier to identify or call them out. >>25549 If you go into a thread and immediately post something so retarded that people assume you're a samefag troll or whatever then the problem is probably (You).

>>25893 No, they just post it because they don't like it and act like redditors.

>>23608 I like IDs. You are still anonymous but it discourages samefagging and spamming with the intention of seeming like different people. Even if it's easy to spoof or just turn off it's an added step that discourages such behavior.

>>25825 western european shithole here, it works fine on my machine

Should the OP of a thread be able to declare whether NSFW is allowed in the thread, and would it be enforceable? It might sometimes be annoying when a thread is just a porn dump or literal circlejerk.

>>26076 >would it be enforceable? no

>>25825 Slavs blocked from 8chan. As I understand it was preventive strike against RKN (seems like 8chan is still not banned in the russia unlike 4chan and all archives). Should just let RKN ban 8chan because it's easy to avoid their DPI instead of using free slow vpn trash.

>>26102 I guess one could make a /aSFW/ if this becomes an actual problem, but then there's the danger that /aSFW/ gets full of moralfags.

>>26076 Unlike halfchan I tentatively don't see anything wrong with the OP declaring whether NSFW is allowed? This could be overruled by BO but if you want to make a "SFW thread" you could give it a try as an experiment, and if I see NSFW in the thread I'll at least get rid of those.

Wtf a Meta thread about the board itself? This is a genius idea, why didn't 4chan have something like that? Multiple times I wanted to talk more so about the site itself and users than the anime in question, but it would have been off-topic. I see many improvements here, if halfchan ever does return I hope they steal all the upgrades I've been seeing in this site. It's honestly better, just smaller.

>>26336 didn't hiro allowed one metathread per board, you could've just made one

>>25291 No I don't think I ever pretended to be multiple anons to manufacture consensus. Though some of the replies make me wonder what people's definition of samefagging is.

>>26356 >didn't hiro allowed one metathread per board All "hiro allowed one metathread per board" metashit threads were always nuked across all boards. They were spammed by the same anon.

>>26362 It was useful, many times a good effort post would go ignored so a reply hours later could call attention to it and BAM now 10 people start a discussion about it. People need to see some activity to engage. Well I might still try it, assuming most people won't be schizos learning IDs and checking for them, I know I'll just ignore IDs

>>26377 i saw some getting deleted, yeah. but who cares if its the same anon, a lot of people didn't knew he did say that (even if i cant find the screen right now) and might've gotten the chance to talk about their board.

>>26299 Bocchi!

Since this thread exist, can anyone give me a script to hide the Board volunteer label? Tried using ublock but I guess it doesnt work that way.

>>25807 Even with ID I will bump a Bocchi thread

>>26427 There are no bocchi threads in the catalog, are there?

>>26336 They did. It was called /qa/ and it was a massive failure that lead to the hack.

>>26396 4chan meta threads are just off-topic crossboarder shitposting generals. They're basically current /ghost/ or light version of /qa/ shithole.

>>26424 oh wait I get it! i just have to replace the spanid with the labelrole in the css script!

>>26438 It might help if the board were actually moderated

I think that the 4chan meta-threads got deleted when those were about the moderation

>>26474 Yeah. It was weird that the board literally made to speak to the mods was worse than /b/ tier in moderation.

>>26436 None right now, and Bocchi/Mitsuboshi anons usually let some weeks between threads, the last 2 Bocchi threads (4/a/) had no rest time in between.

>>25825 dot se nearly always works for me dot moe was out of commission a lot yesterday t. balkanoid

>>26498 As I remember they gave up. The /j/ leak has /qa/ talk thread.

>>26498 They were afraid of their users and hiding from them. You might also say ignoring anons trying to contact the mods on /qa/ was their way to show contempt, but also fear.

Ok I'm starting to love jannies here. You're doing a great job.

>>26556 man, you really love cock sucking

>>26579 Me too.

>>26579 You don't? What are you, a fag?

Something I think we can all agree on. Make using "tranime" a bannable offense, it's a forced buzzword from sharty faggots. Add it to the word replace filters even.

>>26644 Curious if and how they deal with this spammer. 4chan tried everything, since 2023, but he keeps coming back for every single thread.

>>23706 Yeah, you could do that. This also largely defeats the entire point of the ID system, because shitposters can and will do so.

>>26695 Using machine vision to detect s*jakcs and shadow banning him would work. Also calling his mom.

>>26695 make registered accounts mandatory before posting

>>26695 He's not particularly aggressive and gives up after one try so I doubt anyone cares that much at this point.

>>26438 From what I remember of /qa/, Hiro and the mods never actually posted there to respond to any questions and after a while they basically stopped moderating it instead of closing it. I don't understand what was going though their heads. Being totally absent and not interacting with the userbase led to so much friction and animosity especially when making biased moderation decisions. It's been a week and moderation staff here is active, present, listening to the users and trying to make improvements.

>>26442 ok sure mr halfchan mod >>26336 meta threads are always deleted, it's official halfchan janny policy

Some reactions are funny, not interesting though...

>>26895 >muh halfchan So you jannies tick like this?

>>26808 It really is baffling. Even if people don't agree with the decision, at least showing up to justify why you're implementing it solves so much of the friction between users and mods, I don't get why they're so secretive about absolutely everything. Some things I get obviously, like they don't wanna reveal their autoban methods or whatever, but they should at least have the balls to come forward and discuss policy changes rather than throwing them at people with no real explanation, discussion, anything.

>>26808 They still haven't disabled reddit IDs.

>>26927 If you look up the janny leaks on KF (the thread is "meet your jannies", which I won't link to not rule break in any case, but it's easy to google) you will easily see the vast majority of them are the trannoid and/or soyjack type to be pussies about everything. They are the kind of people terrified of pushback to the point of outright banning it. Once you see that it's not rare to see why they decided to just not engage with the comunity at all, which of course only made shit worse.

>>26947 And that's a good thing.

>>26956 The tranny obsession phenomenon was long after the mods lost contact to the users.

>>26947 And I hope they don't.

>>26997 >>26968 I'm amazed that you like this feature, but at every single other thing that could help reduce shitposting you screech REDDIT REDDIT REDDIT REDDIT. At least I won't have to argue when bestchan is back. They would never put IDs on /a/.

>>26927 Meta is the mind killer. It's all fun and games until you get outsiders using the meta thread to shit on actual good decisions and practices and brigade until they get their way. And the retards always out number the anons.