Because Jesus is Really Evil. ;)

If it's explicitly in the Bible that times are going to be worst but Jesus will be return with a sword, a army of angels and with his clothes bathed literally in the blood of his enemies Why conservatives keep bothering with politics?

>>457950 The god of the old testament is Saturn. Yahweh is Saturn. The bible was meant only for the chosen. All abrahamic religion are cuckoldry because they cut off their foreskins and COPE.

>>457984 Cope harder child of satan, your time is at hand.

>>457988 Kike

>>457992 Yes you are.

>>457950 >If God is in control and Jesus is king, how is anything satan’s fault? Because he's in open rebellion against the Lord and he schemes to take as many human souls as he can into Hell with him when he goes. He is why Adam and Eve fell to sin, and why we live in a world where it's possible for a demented pedophile and a half-cuban bastard to run North America. >Let’s see you fire up those mental gymnastics. What mental gymnastics? And what's with all the fedoraposting? Why not just leave it in one thread? Jesus loves you, OP, and everyone else. I hope you see that, one day.

>>458021 The Messiah already came, you "people" killed him. Pray to the Antichrist all you wish, he cannot save you demon faced rats.

>>458009 <all who call upon the name of the lord shall be saved <not all who say lord lord shall be saved Which one?

That's an easy one. Satan doesn't exist.

Isn't 90% of everything people think of about "muh ebul saytan" random shit from pagan mythology not actually in the bible, or outright mistranslations? Canonically Lucifer is some loser cuck who got thrown out of heaven now all he does is seethe about it

>>457950 Satan is evil. He is at fault for evil, just like we are at fault for evil. God does not puppet the universe, the Bible never says God just controls every atom to do exactly what he wants. He is not mind controlling the rapist and murderer. Nor are you possessed by God when you masturbate to porn. Nor is a King responsible for someone doing a random act of evil against his own laws.

>>458037 The Bible is written for humans to understand, not robots. As evident by our universe being creative and not robotic in logic. So you cannot say the Bible says men and women are equal and the Bible says women shouldn't be pastors and say that's a contridiction. Because both are simply true. But without one of those statments it might not have been assumed. Those who call on the name of the Lord out of a pure heart will be saved. The Bible talking about salvation doesn't just end there. Why aren't people who claim to believe Jesus allowed in the Kingdom of heaven in the end? Because they are workers of iniquity. They only have the confession down. They might not even really believe. Jesus says He never knew them, they never knew the holy Spirit or the Lord in a loving relationship, of course he saw everythig they did. The Bible says none are righteous. Does that mean Jesus is not righteous? Does that mean God is not righteous? No, we know what it means if we do not pretend to be foolish. And I am not saying you pretend to he foolish. But salvation begins when you confess that you don't deserve heaven, you need forgiveness, you want to be forgiven; and the sacrifice of Jesus Christ, His blood, is already there to wash anyone whom God chooses, and who does He choose? Ultimatley those who seek Him and want to follow Him. And anyone today can easily best do that by reading the New Testament and applying the teachings of Christ while praying to God.

>>458238 so which one is it? glownigger or poltard?

>>458244 >tell us plainly! I told you, and you believed not: the words that I speak in my Father's name, they bear witness of the truth. But you believe not, because ye are not of His sheep, as I say unto you. I can tell you; you certainly will not be saved by calling on the Lord in your hypocrisy and unbelief. [Prophet Isaiah (7th century BC)] Seek ye the Lord while he may be found, call ye upon him while he is near: let the wicked forsake his way, and the unrighteous man his thoughts: and let him return unto the Lord, and he will have mercy upon him; and to our God, for he will abundantly pardon. Thus saith the Lord, Keep ye judgment, and do justice: for my salvation is near to come, and my righteousness to be revealed. Behold, the Lord's hand is not shortened, that it cannot save; neither his ear heavy, that it cannot hear: but your iniquities have separated between you and your God, and your sins have hid his face from you, that he will not hear. For your hands are defiled with blood, and your fingers with iniquity; your lips have spoken lies, your tongue hath muttered perverseness. God expects perfection if you want to get to heaven. Otherwise the only other way is through forgiveness, and for that; God expects much less for someone to be forgiven, only that they repent toward Him in earnest of heart. And that forgiveness is paid for by the blood of the sinless and innocent, which is why human sacrifice doesn't work, people are sinful, but animals do not know sin. For this reason God's perfect lamb the Lord Jesus Christ was sent, who knew no sin, so that all who believe on Him may be forgiven of all their sins and receive eternal life. Not by our righteousness; but hidden in Christ so that when God sees us He sees the cross and our sins paid for. [Paul's letter to Titus (64 AD)] Not by works of righteousness which we have done, but according to his mercy he saved us, by the washing of regeneration, and renewing of the Holy Ghost; which he shed on us abundantly through Jesus Christ our Saviour; that being justified by his grace, we should be made heirs according to the hope of eternal life. Without repentance, and that means to turn, how can you believe and call on the Lord to save. If you wish only to say you believe and have no salvation then do so. But salvation begins now, even by sanctification, God will lead us into His paths, we call on the Lord for the forgiveness of sins and the leading into His ways, all out of truth and not hypocrisy (which means in Greek: acting). Once we have receive the holy Spirit which is unanimous with the cleansing and elimination of all our past sins, then we have the love of God to desire to do good. There is no salvation without letting Jesus into your life, for you called upon Him. Yet, if you only want salvation without God, I will say to you, good luck, that is what Jesus and the Apostles warned about. [Gospel according to Matthew (40/65 AD)] Many will say to me in that day, Lord, Lord, have we not prophesied in thy name? and in thy name have cast out devils? and in thy name done many wonderful works? And then will I profess unto them, I never knew you: depart from me, ye that work iniquity. Notice what these people say, "look at all we've done!" That is exactly what the typical person around the world thinks they will do, tell God how great they are and why they deserve heaven. As for us, we only ask not for judgement and justice, but mercy. I am a sinner but Jesus died for me, and though I have not been a great disciple please have mercy on me. [Book of Psalms (15th-5th century BC)] Hear my prayer, O Lord, give ear to my supplications: in thy faithfulness answer me, and in thy righteousness. And enter not into judgment with thy servant: for in thy sight shall no man living be justified. Hear rather what Paul, arguably the greatest lover of Jesus who ever lived and wrote 4% of the bible has to say before He left the present world. [Paul's first letter to Timothy (63 AD)] For I am now ready to be offered, and the time of my departure is at hand. I have fought a good fight, I have finished my course, I have kept the faith: henceforth there is laid up for me a crown of righteousness, which the Lord, the righteous judge, shall give me at that day: and not to me only, but unto all them also that love his appearing. Doesn't matter how great you are this is the end of the believers life. He only fought he in some ways didn't even win, just survived, until his head was cut off, but finished the race and kept the faith, didn't keep the law, I have never met anyone who has kept all of God's law in perfection, but he kept the faith against everything. Some don't, they leave and become an enemy whereas they were once a friend of God, the world overcomes people when they allow it to and live after the flesh and die. But we will reach the end of our life perfected in sanctification by God. I have only been following Christ for less than 3 years, and have fallen into all sorts of things and often not realised how far I'm drifting back into my old life as a weeb porn angry internet person or whatever, I know that I will make it and keep the faith, Jesus will be with me unto the end of the age, and all those also that want Him.

And if you use the Bible for evil, as Satan does, and if you do not understand you do not know enough but are decieved. See how Satan loves to use the words of God for evil, but Jesus repells Him by knowing the whole and greater picture of God's commands. And this is how all heresy and cults begin by the devil. [Gospel according to Matthew (40/65 AD)] Then the devil taketh him up into the holy city, and setteth him on a pinnacle of the temple, and saith unto him, If thou be the Son of God, cast thyself down: for it is written, He shall give his angels charge concerning thee: and in their hands they shall bear thee up, lest at any time thou dash thy foot against a stone. Jesus said unto him, It is written again, Thou shalt not tempt the Lord thy God. [Book of Psalms (15th-5th century BC)] There shall no evil befall thee, neither shall any plague come nigh thy dwelling. For he shall give his angels charge over thee, to keep thee in all thy ways. They shall bear thee up in their hands, lest thou dash thy foot against a stone. [Deuteronomy (15th century BC)] Ye shall not tempt the LORD your God, as ye tempted him in Massah. By knowing God's Word you will not fall prey to the Devil's religious lies in which he will try to cause confusion and hatred and divison. Understand not bits and pieces but the Message, the Word means the Message of God and what that fundamental message is. How Jesus will speak through time to you and so too all the prophets who spoke by the holy Spirit. The devil and his children have been decievers from the beginning using and twisting God's words to decieve mankind. [Genesis (19th century BC)] Now the serpent was more subtil than any beast of the field which the Lord God had made. And he said unto the woman, Yea, hath God said, Ye shall not eat of every tree of the garden?

>>458009 >Because he's in open rebellion against the Lord Wow, how did God not see that coming when he made Satan? I mean, that rebellion was even more predictable than people eventually eating the fruit off of a tree that you planted in their garden.

>>458253 Why did He create you if He knew you would do evil? Maybe He shouldn't have created any sentient beings? [Paul's letter to the church in Rome (57 AD)] Nay but, O man, who art thou that repliest against God? Shall the thing formed say to him that formed it, Why hast thou made me thus? Why do you have such a problem with Satan's existence when you do as he does, evil and wickedness, and have you ever hurt another or caused others to stumble in God? [Letter of Jude (65 AD)] Likewise also these filthy dreamers defile the flesh, despise dominion, and speak evil of dignities. Yet Michael the archangel, when contending with the devil he disputed about the body of Moses, durst not bring against him a railing accusation, but said, The Lord rebuke thee. But these speak evil of those things which they know not: but what they know naturally, as brute beasts, in those things they corrupt themselves. The fact satan is allowed to live is just as well the only reason we have mercy as well. You know God Himself is the one who repents the most in the Bible by far. He repents His judgment and punishment to give place for repentence. But God invented time and He has no issue with a few thousand years that are nothing to Him. Yet mankind is offended at the idea they need to repent, who truly do need to. But God in His goodness has allowed all to exist. Who prevents you from doing as you please. But in the end God only wants one type of person in His eternal kingdom. Those who love and love mercy and goodness and Him. God was obviously already aware of all things, He knows the future. Which is something impossible for us to comprehend, how does anyone operate. But the fact is there is no other reality, God is a person with a personality. No matter what you believe no one has ever proposed a logical solution to existence, so if it's silly that God is a person with likes and dislikes, I would say there is no other possible reality I know of that makes more sense for the universe we see. Mankind has chosen the tree of the knowledge of good and evil. But in Christ is the tree of life. Purity and holiness and love will live forever and all darkness and evil will be swept away and destroyed. God will restore everything to Paradise. I wouldn't ask why God created but why humans rebelled. Why blame God for everything so much He comes to earth to preach love and would you crucify Him too? Because He dreams to restore His ways and world, and that good world is hell to those who love hatred and rebellion. Because why God is is the only mystery the Bible does not answer. Why does He create. But He loves simply because He loves His own creation. His creation is free not to love Him, but God is a judge who will judge good and evil and we have already done evil. [Joshua (14th century BC)] And if it seem evil unto you to serve the LORD, choose you this day whom ye will serve; whether the gods which your fathers served that were on the other side of the flood, or the gods of the Amorites, in whose land ye dwell: but as for me and my house, we will serve the LORD.

All religion is a fuck but people should still follow whatever gives them enlightenment and spiritual meaning. People who use religion as a cudgel (Evangelicals, Islamists, Hindu nationalists, etc) to beat others with don't actually care for spirituality and simply desire a justification for their wickedness.

>>458256 I know you'll use the term "beat with religion" to defend yourself, but I think I know really what bothers you. Actually we live in a reality. Just look at your hands, look at your computer. We live in physical reality. So the idea that there's no answer to that reality is what is ridiculous. And your idea that no one can know the truth and tell no one is ridiculous. You who call Jesus and all His apostles evil, because they preach the Gospel of the Lord, because without Christ all are condemned. When Paul was stoned and thrown out of a city He would get up and go and preach again. Because christians care about the eternity of others, because we know the truth, if that sounds arrogant, it is not, the truth to no surprise is contained in the most popular book in the world by whe words of the most famous man who ever lived. And has not been earned by anyone. [Gospel according to John (98 AD)] Verily, verily, I say unto thee, We speak that we do know, and testify that we have seen; and ye receive not our witness. Spirituality is worthless without justification, without God, arguably the entire Bible is about what is justification. Have all the sensual "spirituality" you want and be possessed by demons, drunk. But you will not be justified. It is ironically the ones claiming this who do it, who say they are not evil and need no saviour, nay, you will perish without God. So at leat when someone with this idea ends up in hell they won't blame christians, because they hated being told. But many will end up in hell wondering why the christian in their life didn't spend every second of every day telling them the truth. That no one can "spiritually work their own way into eternal life" as if spirituality means a good thing by default. So you who judges others, muslims, christians and whoever else, how much do you pray? How much time do you spend with God? And how much do you to do good in your life? Don't tell me because I will personally never care. But only that you know the Lord Jesus Christ and God's way to eternal life, not your assumed way. But if you ask about Christ then you will be answered and if you claim to represent any truth of God you will be confronted by Christ. No, I really hope you do not "care about spirituality" But rather that you care about God and being in union with His holy Spirit. Following His commandments. It is you who are religious, just like the Pharisees and Sadducces in Jesus' time. You want to have your own personal way. But the way is Christ. And you have been told [Gospel according to John (98AD)] I am the door: by me if any man enter in, he shall be saved, and shall go in and out, and find pasture.

>>458256 Or or, it is how humans evolved to use it so they could do ethnic reproduction better, and you can just suck shit if you think you have way to get a organism to not do what it evolved to do

>>458258 Evolution religion is not real... you are not related to sunflowers and starfish and grasshoppers. Your great great granddad was not a fish or a worm or a sea sponge. I assure you no matter how many worms you reproduce they will never turn into a human. What evidence do you have for anything you say. The idea people didn't believe the ressurection of Jesus is ridiculous. Explain the first century without the ressurection of Christ. Explain, since you say it evolved, explain each first century christian document, there's 30+ surviving ones claiming Jesus is risen and Lord. So if you are so smart and scientific explain away christianity with real facts and not nonesense. Do not perish for lack of knoweldge. Be knowledgable. Have information.

All your questions have been answered. And none has said anymore in response. [Gospel according to Matthew (40/65 AD)] While the Pharisees were gathered together, Jesus asked them, Saying, What think ye of Christ? whose son is he? They say unto him, The Son of David. He saith unto them, How then doth David in spirit call him Lord, saying, The LORD said unto my Lord, Sit thou on my right hand, till I make thine enemies thy footstool? If David then call him Lord, how is he his son? And no man was able to answer him a word, neither durst any man from that day forth ask him any more questions. The Word of God is not complicated. Salvation is not complicated but rather it is simple and anyone confusing it is from the devil. You want eternal life? I have told you, not what I say, what God says. "Well I don't know if the Bible is from God and stuff?" Oh, so God speaks where then? Is there another book you'd like to purpose while not even having read the Bible yourself. "Well God speaks to me and He says Bible is dumb dumb and I'm a good person and I'm going to heaven without Jesus!" Okay. But we affirm that God speaks bby His holy Spirit which He gives to those who believe and it is not imagination but real spiritual experience of peace and love and understanding. And there's nothing you want ever again but to be in the Spirit, but the fullness will not always be there until we get Home and are perfected. You asked and made this thread accusing God, claiming there was no defence and behold, God stands and your pettiness falls. And I would not alllow vain stupidity here >>457968 but have told you the truth, which is not fun and games but serious. Be angry if you want, hate if you wish, make ecuses for yourself or induldge in vain fantasies about how "religion" formed knowing nothing of what you talk about. Or Lovers, just listen to Jesus. There are audiobooks on youtube for the Gospels. There are four of them: Mark, Luke, Matthew, John. Some people aren't very bookish and so as Thomas Kempis, God speaks to one more in visions one in documents one in preaching and so on.

Oooh maybe God's words are placed in this movie, or in these clouds or in this still photo or in this magician's hat or this guy on the internet, he must know. Surely it can be anything, anything but the most obvious place. WHO ARE YOU GONNA FACE WHEN YOU DIE!? Who will it be? What will He be like? What's the thought process. Is it aliens who will judge you and only accept you if you like numbers divisible by 7? Will you just pass into eternal grassy field or into a hellish landscape? Is there an assumption that there's no way to know, even to make a best guess if you have all the information? Who is coming with you after death, who will help you? If you at all believe even slightly our world has a purpise then where is it? What makes you think good is good or evil evil? The Bible tells you why and you would probably agree. Does masturbating to porn and posting memes online prove anything? Have you already given up on knowing what the meaning of life is? Which is the only useful thing to know. I know "Well if I am good enough then all is fine and that's it, whatever happens I'll accept, screw it YOLO!!!" I speak to the minority with reasonable minds. God is not who we want Him to be, He is who He is (Yaweh). That's His name. He is thw God who is with us. You know Moses spent 40 years living his life in Pharroh's palace, the Bible says he was mighty in word and deed, and then he went to understand better his own people the Hebrews. He ended up murdering an Egyptian. Even His own people judged him for this and Pharroh wanted him dead. And he ran away from justice, he did not face the consequences of his actions, he ran into hiding for 40 more years, he minded sheep. You think during that 40 years Moses, a runaway murder, ever thought, "Well, God is done with me. Maybe everyone is right. I wasted all my oppertunites, and maybe any experience of God was just my imagination." Then God comes down to Him. Has no ill will towards him but says I AM WHO I AM and makes Moses as a god before the egyptians. It's not over until it is over. We have not handed in our assignment. We can still have the whole thing erased and start again, even if we mess it up again. We haven't died yet. Some have already gone, and we must all go. Moses spent His time humbly as a shepherd. And He did good to others while he was in that exile you can about in Exodus and he took care of a family he raised and was a servant to another. He stood up against evil. You don't have to be a bible nerd. Or super ritualistic and go to confessionals and you don't have to sit in a smokey room in a spiritual trance. God wants people who are seeking after goodness regardless of the evil in their past. Like God, we as believers should not care but what are you doing today? I hope you are doing well. But there comes a point where God will come. There only comes a few times in our lives when Jesus of Nazereth passes by, or a burning bush speaks to us. And if Moses disobeyed the voice where would he be? Jesus says those who are His hear His voice and follow Him and He gives them eternal life. The Word of God says have faith in His righteousness and not your own filthy rags which you think are good enough. Ask amd reieve the holy Spirit.

>>458260 Hey dude, i don't need it to be real, but will still advocate for Christianity because it's the best hope for humans to evolve out of being monkey meat that makes shit A population living under Christianity in a harsh ecology is basically the best form of eugenics made into a religion, and even with my disgusting dispositions, i can look at that and creation in general, and think God is a funny motherfucker Jesus, for me, is the end step in human evolution, and what we need to become if we are to ever have eternal civilization, the thing that is myself doesn't need to be with God for it to care about the consequences of God My proof for evolution is you can take organisms with very short lifes and breed them for things, I ll really have proof when the west's gay ethics don't have force behind it and we can really get into the genomes and start fucking with shit

>>457950 Because aliens ironically. Not even joking.

>>457950 OP is a faggot atheist who doesn't understand shit.

>>458507 Reminder governor newsome and Biden are white men.

>>458519 Liberal whites are worse then niggers in a lotta ways

>>458507 Bush and Biden are faggot Christians that can’t understand shit.