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Metaphor: ReFantazio thread Anonymous 10/17/2024 (Thu) 00:46:09 Id: 629415 No. 1028446
I'm the OP of the original thread and since the last thread got ruined by autism. I decided to make a new thread focusing on discussing the game and making OC. Since I'm one of the maybe three people on this whole board playing, I'll give my impressions and speculations. >This game was rushed in aspects >The game does have Romance but it's half assed in the weirdest ways >Localisation is ass >Bong VAs are tolerable but JP is always better >Game isn't sjw but pretty critical of all the character's respective ideologies >It's genuinely critical of the MC's idealism >He and the party accept that they've been naive at certain realties >The rival throne candidates's views are also pointed at being flawed having pros >Some more incorrect then others (The eat the rich beast girl is given a nasty wake up over her fantasy Marxism for one example) >Game is much more traditional JRPG meets SMT meets FF style job system meets modified Persona links >The tolerance virtue is a lot more nuanced then what twitter sjws or RW twitter grifters would tell you >Some of the Not social links are clearly romantic in nature but Atlus cut them >Speculate they wanted to test the waters by not fully adding it but not fully removing it either >Think they'll cave with a "Throne edition" that adds full on romance and other stuff that was cut >They cucked out on giving true changeable gear >You can change weapons and buy armour >But save for costume skins they don't change outward party appearance when you put on armour from a shop >Like XB2 you can chain combos with your party with the press turn system >PC version despite denuvo hasn't ran like ass on my five year old rig <I'm just as surprised as you anons >Strohl and the male party members are bros >Hulkenberg might be best girl due how much of a spergy dork she is Note there is a way to play the full game by hacking the demo, which I'll try looking for.
Cool game, but i'll wait for the Vengeance Redux Royal Golden Maniax Fes Edition to play which will release in 2 years.
>>1038057 The Vengeance Redux Royal Golden Maniax Fes Edition might not be available to be pirate though.
>>1038057 Most likely they will add stupid shit like all their remakes/remasters.
>>1038541 They'll also shoehorn in one (1) female character into the game and present it as a feature.
>>1038541 >>1038563 Apparently the game already has cut content people are finding in the files. Such as a bunch of not!social links like Batlin and combat data for Fidelio and Rela. A youtuber named Faz who makes videos about Persona cut content will be doing one on it soon.
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>play [Class] >unlock [Better Class] <it's a shitty side-grade not even the miserly inheritance system can fix
>>1038577 It's clear they cut shit and don't be shocked if this magically appears in a new version.
>>1038577 >>1038656 Probably in time for Switch 2 launch.
>>1038725 I'd not be surprised.
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>>1038541 >New difficulty that increases enemy stats by 3x and all rewards received by 30x >New female character shoehorned into the main plot that you MUST spend time with to progress the new content >New content completely fucks up the original game's balance by giving you shit tons of new options >New optional "dungeon" to farm easy EXP/Gold/Mag/Whatever currency they use in this game >That'll be 70 dollars goy :^)
>>1038847 Can't be as bad as whatever happened to SMT4: Apocalypse
>>1038976 Apocalypse was a sequel, not an enhanced version.
>>1038976 Their remakes are just as bad.
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>>1038847 Here's how it's going to go down /v/ >Atlus will redo the partial romances to full on romances >Rella might become a party member due to her having combat data >Story will have changes and new areas >New party member might appear >Gameplay mechanics and features they couldn't put in originally >A number of bond features they most likely had to cut will be placed back in >New archetypes >New ending >Sega will push for an anime to be released Anything to add?
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So who wins for ""soundtrack""? """Elden Ring DLC"""?: https://youtu.be/QnMnEWjSCSk Or """Metaphor"""? https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zQZa--r5FrU https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tsHLe9qaxuQ While I like Metaphor's a lot, I think Elden almost beats LotR let alone Metaphor's.
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>>1040373 I think the leak clearly was bait because they definitely have so much room for additions and I think SotE opens the door to turning DLCs into more than mere expansions and more like something short of a sequel. So they'll bait with the leak and then force DRM with the inevitable additions. And I might struggle to resist it because I like this game too much.
>>1038613 On the one hand I don't mind the archetypes. On the other, I hate how persona relationship shenanigans locks you out of it a lot of the time and you're FORCED to play the main quest. What were they thinking? Now I cut my hours down in this game instead of mindless pointless grinding for OP shit early game. Don't they want people to do this now? It extends the game time significantly. It's not like Persona where you have Mementos and the relationship stuff is just padding really. Now if you don't talk to several people, you're forced to never get end game seeker/More's shit. That wasn't a problem in Persona, you could just ignore people you disliked. In Metaphor you're kinda FORCED to talk to people you dislike. Then again, that might be the point thematically.
>>1038577 >combat data for Fidelio and Rela Oh ffs Atlus. They're so much better than idoltrash and many of the other characters. >still no Brig Now that's just interesting. She's way too good to just be just a social link. Same with Blue Michael Jackson con artist.
>>1040300 too much ass.
>>1040535 Elden Ring.
Got this gifted to me and it's a pretty standard JRPG plot. This isn't really left leaning.
>>1044021 do irish have no ass?
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>>1044132 No, they fear it.
>>1035527 >He's basically Devilman's Satan, why not go further and give the "what if Devilman aligned with Satan" scenario? Doesn't work anon, it's already been tried and you need futa-Satan to fuck herself for that to happen. >>1044154 Thanks for reminding me of that.
People are still trolling this thread over the ass?
>>1048799 What?
I want to fuck Catherina Finished the game. Full thoughts. >Archetype system is hit and miss. Adept/Elite archetypes needed to be straight upgrades in all regards. Not have losses. That was retarded. The Prince archetype is appropriately OP, though I was surprised how utterly OP the endgame Berserker archetype was. >MP management here is cancer. Endgame you have an archetype that lets you effectively gain shitloads of MP on dodge (outside of squad battles.) Just make MP recovery outside of battle progressively convenient as time goes on. Easily the worst part of the gameplay. Enjoy mindlessly grinding in the last area to get your MP back 4 times. I think I grinded more for MP in dungeons than any other metric (cash, mag) in the game. >Entire game revolves around 1 turning the enemy, that is when you build and grind correctly you can and will one shot every enemy in the game. Enemies can do the same, especially the final boss. Interesting idea. Enjoyed and hated it. >Time gimmick was done well here, though I wish there was more non-consequential story activities to do in that end stretch. Midgame it felt perfect. Royal virtues felt awkward, like they shoehorned in a stat to reward for doing activities. >Bond system was hit or miss. Some felt complete (e.g. Strohl) others did not (Gallica, Alonzo, Neuras, More, Maria, I think they were unsure what to do with Catherina.) Some characters felt significant enough to really warrant a bond. (Batlin, specifically.) Liked the system overall. Needed more, though. >Gear system also felt a bit incomplete. Not as much as other systems, but the Purification gimmick wasn't used much. Now plot. A lot to praise, a bit to complain about. >Presents a lot of social 'ideals' at the beginning, progressively tears them down or points holes in the logic. Takes awhile for the game to do the same for the Protag's ideals, but they settle for a pretty middle-of-the-road politics approach in the end there. >Concerns of being leftist. I'd say there is some milquetoast progressive things in here (mostly is fantasy racism and how to solve it) but the writers aren't retarded Californians. It doesn't fall into the trap of only making the ideology they agree with believable and 'good', though the ideology that wins crucially is the republic oligarchy. (Implication the Kingdom is on its way to becoming the UK of all things.) >Mixed about the final antagonist. Refreshingly straight forward with the final baddie. I expected someone else but they were remarkably consistent about Louis being the BBEG. Ending morals still boiled down to "I have friends and you don't!", to be expected as it IS Fantasy Persona. But its a bit more mature as it is really more of a "I'm willing to work together with people for an indeterminate future. You don't." Disappointed you couldn't get a "Overall Louis was right" manipulated ending, but whatever. Maybe in the Gallica Poses Erotically (Game of the Year) edition of the game. >Overall a decent fantasy underdog tale about some schmuck becoming king. Many likable characters. Straightforward antag. >>1035527 I wish they didn't turn his ass retarded at the end there. He was ultimately right about the problem (as Strohl points out) and the basic idea of a solution (as Strohl I think also points out, and you as the MC can also point out.) but fumbled the bag on what he was going to do about it. Definitely had "two sides of the same coin" vibes for the MC and Louis, which is probably why Louis's origin story was an Elda. If I had to put it into words, it felt like Louis was ultimately the Gnostic equivalent of the teenage edgy nihilist. Magla really did just make everything worse. As More points out.
>>1051795 I also felt the bonds both the platonic and especially the partial romance bonds felt incomplete. It feels like they were stuck in the persona mines for so long that they couldn't figure out what to do with bonds. If we get a "Royal" edition I genuinely hope they'll fix the MP and balancing issues. Also Atlus just add romances fully back in as this in-between is just awkward. Just have it like on any other fantasy RPG where you can opt in or out of romance. Make the royal virtues more fleshed out and less "just a stat dump". Let us truly change outfits/armor like other fantasy RPGs Atlus. >Sounds like they rushed the game Yes this game was clearly rushed after being in development hell for 8 years and you can tell by the missing features that should've been in the game already. A Royal edition will be filled with stuff that should've been day 1 all at full price in a year or two.
>>1048799 This thread is ass
>>1052533 I'm genuinely impressed.
>>1052533 More like this thread lacks ass
>>1052586 I come to rescue, I am the ass. You're ugly
>>1052533 >>1052575 >>1052586 >>1052602 I request more fae ass instead of autism
>>1052613 Fae's are underrepresented in fantasy. Elves hog all the spotlight in fantasy creatures when faes are more magical and easy to imagine hiding in real life


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