>Speculate they wanted to test the waters by not fully adding it but not fully removing it either Did they get western pressure or something?

>>1028449 It's something I wonder.

>last thread was locked before even hitting 500 hello mark

>>1028534 I'm not our board kike, I did however ask for the thread lock.

There is now a patched exe that allows you to play the full game now. >Link? No. I was censored last time so I will NOT link it this time. Sorry not sorry.

Was the fat to flat ass fake? I didn't read all the shit from the other thread.

>>1028446 >RW twitter grifters Stopped reading there NIPPON YES

>>1028588 Her tolerance level should start to decrease for that smugfat, and the fashion criminal with a box over his head.

>>1028588 /v/ after 5 minutes with no thoughts of black cock:

Why is there such a massive effort to call this game woke? Aside from a poor translation the game is more on the nuanced side from what I've looked up.

what is the metaphor in the metaphor game?

>>1028599 That youre a huge faggot.

>>1028568 Never proven one way or another. Nobody dug in the files to prove the original claimant right or wrong. People just used it to cause a shitstorm in the last thread, so it's not being discussed here. But like last thread, I think it's just Atlus sticking to typical elf designs for them like the Etrian Odyssey games (or just a reference since Yuuji Himukai didn't work on this game) or being inspired by the elves from Record of Lodoss War. That and people couldn't find and/or weren't complaining about similar kinds of censorship issues regarding outfits like obvious shitty edits to cover cleavage, crappy spats or shorts models replacing panties, etc. >>1028597 >Tolerance Stat >Praises equity and forced equal outcomes over meritocracy and egalitarianism. >Absolutely buggered, politicized translation by everyone's least favorite tranny. A mystery for the ages, anon. Yes I know the second point is more nuanced than that in the actual story, with Louis being a military dictator wanting extreme survival of the fittest and the protags ideals being proven to be kind of ass, but people don't look at the full picture when it comes to these things. I certainly didn't. >>1028566 Game gets pirated & SEGA doesn't get a refund on Denuvo due to the DRM not being directly cracked. Couldn't think of a better way for it to work out, fucking hate that piece of shit bloatware, waste of corporate resources and a blight on end users. >>1028449 I don't think it was Western pressure. I think they just wanted to distance this IP from Persona and the dating sim reputation it has in some circles, but couldn't write characters well without such for one reason or another. Also could be people misinterpreting things due to translation fuckery or reading too hard into things due to not being used to stories with hints of romance or possible bonds without going full into that like some JRPGs have.

>>1028680 I watched some of links and the festival dates. Altus completely cucked out on the middle ground for this. Several bonds feel off because they're in this weird limbo of blatantly romantic trying to be platonic or feeling incomplete because it was meant to be dating sim like. They should've just fully committed to zero romance or full on romance like Persona. They instead made an awkward inbetween.

>>1028599 The metaphor is racism bad.

>>1028680 Somewhat hard to ascertain considering in the Sanic thread SEGA is meddling to appeal to muh shitbag West, but at the same time >>1028731 literally sums up SMT titles outside of Purseowner. The Devil Survivor games definitely have plenty of romance in them, for example, but nothing like a full-on dating sim even though 2's FATE system teases the prospect. That's what I think Metaphor is trying to evoke, along with cropping stuff from other games like DDS. If there's an expanded edition that completes the bonds with a definitive confirmation then I will eat my words, but everything just strikes me as the general public trying to apply Purseowner expectations to a SMT title, like complaining that Catherine doesn't have RPG gameplay.

>>1028763 The problem is while the game is more on the SMT side. The bonds/links are still very much Persona and clearly had romance in mind for several of the girls. My problem isn't that the game doesn't have dating sim shit it's that the game won't commit to no romance or having romance. It's that simple inability to commit to one that leaves an awkwardness that comparable SMT social links/bonds don't have.

>>1028446 I'll probably get around to playing this after the new Sonic game.

>>1028680 >I think they just wanted to distance this IP from Persona You could have fooled me with the way this game was designed. It's why I don't buy the "it's not Persona" excuse from people trying to justify the weird half-romance in this game. So much of the rest of this game just is Persona. Even if the romance was fully removed it would still be mostly Persona. Removing that one aspect does nothing to "distance" it. It just makes it weird.

>>1028873 I agree. It's a Persona game. Not bad if you're into that sort of thing, but it wasn't what I wanted. Cucking out on romance options doesn't make it not a Persona game when every other element is present and accounted for.

>>1028731 >They should've just fully committed to zero romance or full on romance like Persona. They instead made an awkward inbetween. I wonder if Atlus realised they fucked up on that one?

I understand getting mad at the crappy localization, but I don't know why people are getting so mad about the 'muh racism bad' aspect of the game's message (Are you really surprised when it comes to Persona-like games?). These games are targeted toward teenagers so obviously it's going to have milque-toast, generic, baby philosophy 101 put into it. Plus, it isn't even the first one that had such a predictable and mundane message, most tons of them have. FE Path of Radiance/Radiant Dawn is the first one that comes to mind, especially when speaking of raycism. Humans were assholes, and the furfags were muh oppressed and were good boys going to church and shit even though they were the original assholes at first (funny too how the later game still somehow made it the fault of humans for the bad things the furfags did through some stupid plot armor device). And in the end despite its no racism message, nothing truly gets solved, because Radiant Dawn ends with the humans and furfags killing each other again some 1000 or something years later. So once again, no one past their early 20s should be throwing a fit at this, because it is for young people and isn't really supposed to be that deep. Honestly, we all wish it were, but then it wouldn't exactly appeal too much to your average normalfag now would it?

>>1029007 What I respect is that this game does point out that utopian idealism, our MC has is wishful thinking.

>>1029007 It's probably less to do with "racism bad" and more the specific charged language the localization uses. For instance, Heismay's speech when he first see's the protagonist's book is more or less arguing for "equality of outcome" mentality which is big with the socialists who push for things like affirmative action and DEI. I have no idea how the scene shakes out in Japanese. Overall, though, no I don't find the game to be all that "woke." At most it's aggressively centrist on basically everything.

>>1029054 >At most it's aggressively centrist on basically everything. I would argue it's more this odd mix of genuine centrism (like the objective kind you'd see in the 2000s and not the skinwalker leftists, or obtuse fence sitters today) and libertarianism.

>>1029007 >but I don't know why people are getting so mad about the 'muh racism bad' aspect of the game's message it's just people picking up on the lefts tactics attack attack attack until they are to scared to go against you people learned you need to attack at even a sniff of woke or they will just sneak it in, not saying i agree but the other side has proven it works.

>>1028959 Altus is probably thinking they won't try something like this again.

>>1029190 I mean, it's worked in other Atlus games. The Etrian Odyssey Untold games had hints of romantic bonds and even outright the non-untold games even had some through specific events if your parties had opposite sex members in them, a few of the SMT games did until shit started hitting the fan in said stories. Someone already mentioned the Devil Summoner series. You can do this kind of thing as many writers throughout the genre have proven, and can have outright romantic bonds form without it dominating the script and turning into a dating sim either, even in this format of long-form time progression. Either the writers just sucked at it because they only know how to write for persona games, or the persona audience expected more out of it. First image not relevant, I was just looking through my images for pic 2 and thought it was funny.

>>1029218 >Etrian Odyssey People have completely different expectations for that franchise.

>>1029220 Did you even read the rest of the post, nigger?

>>1029221 He doesn't owe the rest of your novel a read, sperg.

>>1029236 If 130 words was a novel I could be the world's greatest author by now.

>>1029218 Well I don't disagree that not every game needs to add overt romance. This anon >>1029220 has a point about different expenctions. Metaphor offered a bond system that felt awkward due to not committing to either plaontic or romantic bonds.

They were doomed from the start, no matter how they did the not social links, when they chose male MC only. They should have had a FeMC surrounded by raging lesbians.

>>1029248 Hey buddy, I think you've got the wrong door, /u/ is three boards down.

>>1029218 As >>1029220 pointed out it's all about expectation. Back when this game was just Re: Fantasy and a vague thought in everyone's head I was perfectly willing for it to be anything. However once the first trailer came out and they showed the calendar and social links it was over. At that point it was just a reskinned Persona, and it's not weird to have similar expectations of content once that's the case, especially now that we have the game and can see just how close it was and how it feels like it was something simply cut from the final product.

All I know about the game is that it's a Hashino reskin from what I played and watched and the translation is kind of bad up until you meet the mentor guy. Even without the bad translation it still has the same cringe social writing event shit from what I saw at the beginning with the first party member. It plays fine enough but it's literally Fantasy Persona reskinned, with classes later on I guess?

>>1029218 No one really liked the Untold story modes though, with them going against what Etrian Odyssey is going for.

>>1029364 >Etrian Odyssey Speaking of...

>>1029377 Nice easter egg. Is this from Metaphor?

>>1029389 Yes.

>>1029389 I mean the dungeon you do right before it is entirely an Etrian sendup. It's a sprawling single corridor labyrinth with multiple stratums with strong enemies who move when you do that you're supposed to avoid and as you go down you find you're descending into the ruins of Shinjuku.

>>1029421 That's cool. Thanks for the info anon.

>>1029218 The problem with the bonds in Metaphor: ReFantazio, is that they tried saying "we want to be different from Persona", but the bond system is very much like Persona's. Several of the bonds with the Captain's female party members are romantic in nature, Junah's is the classic Lover's tarot is and Hulkenberg's is slow burn but very much becomes so especially after the plot twist, Eupha's is arguably the most blatantly romantic of the three. Atlus my brother in Christ you didn't remove romance, you just cucked out on the S rank. >>1029377 I love the high render almost painterly look of the character designs.

Why did Atlus make half baked romances?

>>1029587 We'll probably never know for sure, but my money is on romance working exactly like Persona until fairly late into development.

Personally I think they cut the S rank just to sell as a selling point for DLC.

>>1029598 I feel like that would have been day 1 dlc, though, scummy as it would have been (Sega essentially did this anyway with Lost Judgment though it's hard to know how much is Sega and how much is RGG). The only way it would make sense to not be day 1 is if they plan to include it with a bunch of other events and stuff in some kind of update. It would be slightly harder to insert events than in Persona because in general there are way fewer days to work with and you can't really fuck with anything that takes place during a "mission" period. Free days outside of mission periods are really rare since the game's calendar only goes four months. The best place to shove in slice of life moments would be on mandatory gauntlet runner travel days I guess. Even then they'd have to let you at least make use of that time.

>>1029587 Because thats the only kind of romance the japs know, and thats mostly in anime, because IRL...

>>1029607 Anon Persona games before this had more.

>>1029587 >>1029598 >>1029604 I feel like they'll make gamers pay for it.

>>1028446 >>1028542 >Locking the thread without linking the new one You dumb fucking nigger. I had that thread open for the last three days and assumed discussion had died because the game was shit.

>>1028680 >everyone's least favorite tranny. I thought that one was a woman?

I've heard Sega added denuvo to the demo after people used it to pseudo-crack the game. Too late, of course since people already have what they need. Though I still don't have confirmation the game is fully completable that way. I have heard tale of some save bugs.

All Personiggers ITT must fucking hang. MUH ROMANCE! MUH ROMANCE! Shut the fuck up.

>>1029722 >Personiggers The game is Persona, anon. It's fantasy Persona with a job system and press-turns. Everything else is the same. Same calendar. Same schedule-based gameplay. Same social stats and social links. There's even a not!velvet room and not!igor and not!Persona awakening scenes. If you hate Persona, this game simply isn't for you because it is 90% (at least) Persona. Go back to the SMT thread. It still hasn't slid off yet.

>>1029722 Of all the many reasons why persona sucks, romance is not that high on the list.

>>1029724 >It's fantasy Persona with a job system and press-turns. Which honestly makes it a lot better.

I personally think Atlus will become a dead corporation because of Sega's interference.

>>1029881 Isn't Atlus relatively left to do whatever?

>>1029885 Do whatever? Nigger, Metaphor is the first truly new thing they've done for years and they forced it to it's own death with Denuvo. Clearly Sega made that decision, because it makes no sense that the devs of P5R would considering it's content. Sega is just squeezing it for pennies and letting it die. It doesn't care about it killing atlus. It takes existing IPs and squeezes them until they cease to be.

>>1029881 I trust you mean like figuratively or spiritually dead because Atlus is selling better than they ever have. Metaphor has literally been their fastest selling game ever, pretty sure. >>1029890 Denuvo is definitely Sega's choice, but everything has had Denuvo for years. This game isn't unique in that regard.

>>1029890 Anon Atlus is very profitable.

>>1029890 People will buy Fatlus games regardless of Denuvo unfortunately, they have a lot of brand power and goodwill just from porting their games, which were kept console-exclusive for a very, very long time.

>>1029894 Not if Sega has it's way. You know sega, they love destroying things that make them money and then complain about it when they run out of money. >>1029897 I personally love Atlus games, but their last 3 games I've outright avoided because Denuvo is literally malware and I've had machines bug from their bullshit. On top of this, their prices are OBSCENE. Especially in this economy. Their games have doubled in price since 2020. While every fan of Atlus can afford about half the price of the 2020 price nowadays due to... state tyranny ruining their sources of income. Just the sheer lack of audience awareness is mind boggling and it has to be Sega. The game isn't the most amazing, but it's good enough to make me know that it's Sega screwing this shit up. I can just tell. They must leave Sega or their company and IPs will just die.

>>1029587 It doesn't feel right that they would. It would be too distracting and would start to feel like a dating sim. You kinda don't want that. Otherwise I'd then get pissed off that there's no lewds, because why bother with a dating VN if it's softcore? Not even Fate S/N did that and it wasn't even a dating sim.

>>1029892 >fastest selling game That all depends on the timeframe chosen. "Fastest selling" is a marketing meme. Also, even if it does sell well, that doesn't necessarily mean anything concrete. Normalfags have a delayed response to shit products from established brands.

>>1029934 Denuvo has been in all Atlus games since they started getting on the PC. If it hasn't impacted sales yet, it won't start now.

>>1029998 I did not respond to nor quote the second separate half of that post that mentioned Denuvo.

>>1030000 Nice digits anon.

>>1030000 Impressive, very nice

>>1029934 It's been doing well in sales and sold a million in the first week.

>>1030014 Everything sells fast these days, doesn't mean it'll sell longterm.

>>1030014 This is what confuses me, I thought Persona homos wouldn't care since you can't diddle anyone and SMT fags wouldn't care since the difficulty would be non-existent. Who is this game for and who is actually enjoying it?

>>1030022 >He thinks a fantasy Persona/SMT isn't going to sell well in the long run Anon are you delusional? Be realistic about this as this isn't an unpopular game.

>>1030029 Its also a completely new IP; I didn't say it wouldn't sell well by the way retard, learn to read.

>>1029892 >Fastest selling game. And a good chunk of that was shipped copies instead of sold copies you retard. The game can and very much will have severe sales decline from bad word of mouth as well because personaniggers are assmad about the lack of romance, which kills the franchise dead since it was made for them, apparently.

>>1030033 >And a good chunk of that was shipped copies instead of sold copies you retard. Had the highest steam player count of any of their RPGs too. Just saying.

>>1030032 >>1030033 I feel like this is wishful thinking as you anons really want this game, to fail but reality isn't agreeing

>>1030037 >But reality isn't agreeing It's far too soon make a call about the long term effects of this title. Anyone with two braincells to rub together knows normalfags have a delayed economic reaction to bad games coming from popular developers.

>>1030040 Anon normalfags like this game a lot. I'm not defending Atlus or etc, but I'm gonna have to be that guy.

>>1030042 >Anon normalfags like this game a lot. Never said they didn't.

>>1030036 And it got less players than a gacha spinoff game. In this current market of even more users than ever there's no reason for the game not to have broken 100k concurrent players >>1030042 Normalfaggots liked Tales of Arise too and look how bad the DLC for that game sold and look at how it's remembered, as a butchering of what came before and as a terrible game. Metaphor at least has a coherent story and characters going for it, compared to Arise having neither, but I see zero discussion of this thing amongst the gamers and normalfags I know outside of people memeing about the crack.

This game might not pull in Persona 5 numbers but anyone thinking it's going to fail miserably is an idiot.

>>1030051 Because profit isn't related to woke and "go woke, go broke" is cope.

>>1030278 No there are companies definitely failing because they went sjw. This game is doing well despite the bad translation is because fags like fantasy Persona/SMT.

>>1030294 The writing in the game is already mediocre even without the bad translation, I wouldn't say it's any worse than any other Hashino Fatlus game, this is just from me playing it, a good translation wouldn't fix the generic anime archetype shit.

>>1029377 >>1029421

>>1030353 What a banger.

>>1030294 The game is definetly not doing as well as it should,it needed at least to get closer numbers to granblue fantasy which it didn't despite trying to hook smt,persona and using the hype of several years

>>1030387 >The game is definetly not doing as well as it should No, a badly translated game should not be successful. Atlus should not be rewarded for repeatedly hiring translators who are more interested in putting their own personal ideologies into a game instead of actually translating the game accurately. So if the game is not selling well right now, it is for a good reason. Losing money is pretty much the only language companies like Sega will understand.

>>1030390 Yeah and what i said is that the game isn't the sucess that people want to believe.

>>1030391 >>1030387 What does Granblue fantasy have to do with anything? A million sales isn't bad numbers at all for a Fatlus game's first few weeks, its already basically passed SMT V (if you exclude vengeance anyways).

>>1030390 I don't see why a bad translation would stop it from selling when companies have released bad translations before and I see literal corporate spam jerking it off like Final Fantasy TicTacs Wot. The plot is actually bearable compared to garbage like FF16.

>>1030399 I haven't played it, but I thought the perception of FFT:WoL was that the TL was more accurate than the original?

>>1030394 You are looking this from your position anon, granblue is their competition, it doesn't matter if from our perspective the game seems to have done fine. For higher ups at SEGA the game failing to get to the levels of Granblue Fantasy despite trying to get as much other fanbases to inflate their numbers as possible yet fail to get even the double of the numbers of a remake isn't that good. SMT is still niche and this new title tried to get people from SMT, Persona and an entire new fanbase with the hype of being a new IP for years now, lots of people were waiting for this i was one of them that wanted it to be good.

>>1030401 How is a gacha game their competition?

>>1030403 I'm talking about Relink,andi know its not turn-based but as far as the CEOs are concerned that's a trivial difference in the bigger picture

>>1030387 >>1030399 >>1030404 I said it here >>1030051 and I'll repeat myself again. This game while not doing Persona 5 numbers isn't doing abysmally either. Many here really like want this game to fail but it's not going to flop like you wish. Anyone who thought fantasy Persona was going crash and burn was lying to themselves.

>>1030353 The music in the game is great.

>>1030506 Mind telling me where I said go out and buy? I'm stating the reality that fantasy Persona isn't a flop. Fags bought the game and Fatlus isn't dying.

>>1030758 Atlus is going to sell this fully as DLC or some other bullshit to milk.

>>1030756 >>1030758 >>1030760 By "this" do you mean a hypothetical relationship DLC, or do you mean the videos you posted are cut content that's been mined and you expect to be added back in as DLC?

>>1030761 Them being Jews and doing a DLC to fully, add it back.

>>1030761 The videos are not cut content. They are in the game. As other anons have mentioned the game has half baked partial romance in it already. Eupha is simply the most obvious.

>>1030768 when I was looking through 5ch and other JP sites, they were genuinely confused at why Atlus did this.

>>1030756 >>1030758 >>1030760 Why limit the romcom stuff when they had it halfway done?

>>1030894 >>1030774 My theory is that there was some internal strife in the team between hardcore SMT devs who hated romance and hardcore modern Persona devs who loved romance, so to minimize the disruption some higher up, decided to implement a solution that would satisfy nobody.

>>1030353 Is that the music used for the single EO-themed dungeon or is that tied to the costume DLC somehow. It sounds way too close to the original to be a homage, more of a ripoff. Feel bad for Yuzo Koshiro, actually, since the composer for this basically stole his work for this one and is the one going to get credit for any awards and such. Man's a talented musician and it's a shame most of his work is likely going to be lost to time due to being for more niche titles.

>>1030900 Just the dungeon, the EO costumes use Untold's version of the first battle theme when you battle enemies.

>>1030774 I think the lack of romance in the game is probably because sega pushed for the inclusion of homosexual romance, and as a result, hoshino decided to remove it entirely.

>>1030913 I could honestly believe this.

>>1030913 I mean, that happened to Rune Factory 5.

>>1030900 It's in the game vanilla. And the dungeon is literally the ruins of Shinjuku. It has FOEs in it. It has other Etrian stuff in it. The Island is literally named Eht Ria after. I think the music choice was fully warranted.

>>1031032 You can do a homage without stealing another's work, is the thing. You could do a very broken version of the song which has bits of the main riff in it and it'd get the point across. Or something normal but with only minor musical references, like the cloudkeep theme in Xenoblade 3 having a bit of "Drifting Soul" from Xenoblade 2 in it since the theme is associated with Nia (first MP3 related, it's the distinct bit 49 seconds in and the background melody references other bits of the song intermittently throughout). The song for the Eht-ra dungeon, on the other hand, is the same main melody with random notes every few seconds changed around, removed, or pitch shifted, with the only major change being the heavy drumbeat. It's a remake of the theme, not a homage or reference to it. Unless the entire game is designed as an "atlus greatest hits" kind of thing then I really don't see a reason for this outside of trying to get all thirty or so hardcore atlus fans who have played the EO games to soyface. Despite their attempts with Persona Q, the persona fanbase and the EO fanbase have nearly no overlap with each other from what I know.

>>1031242 Sage for doublepost, the site stole my MP3s. Guess I fucked up the encoding somewhere or somehow, or the site has a new bug related to first posts after capcha solving. I just went and ripped them from youtube as MP4s instead to be sure they'll get posted this time.

Pirated this game and play it a bit and honestly it's kinda boring, I saw more cutscenes in the 20 minutes I "play" this video game than actually playing the game. Also the story feels like some LN non isekai shlock even down to the racism in fantasy is bad thing.

>>1031493 I say keep going and see what happens. Outside of Etrian Odyssey and a few of the MegaTen games Atlus RPGs have really slow starts. It's actually pretty common in JRPGs as a whole and the only series with action-heavy fast starts that was actually good I've played are the EO games, Octopath series (Varies by char you pick though), and the Xenoblade games (and the Xenoblade games usually follow opening combat sections with like, 30-60mins of slow fluff), anything else that had a fast start was an early indicator of a super-rushed plot or barebones plot, and ended up being trash for various reasons. Or a better way to look at it, when it comes to JRPGs being cutscene-heavy at the first hour or two doesn't mean the game is going to be a sony-esque movie game.

>>1031547 The early Final Fantasy games did it right. Game start > light exposition/introduction > action > first boss down > story time.

>>1031493 >>1031547 You can skip the shitty cutscenes in the game and probably use a trainer to speed it up since cheatengine doesn't work, I'm just not impressed by the scenario design, not that I can say I care about Persona 3-5 either.

Took a break from the game to Play Slay the Princess's DLC, but I'll give more updates soon.

Any groups taking on fan translations, or is the game not popular enough?

>>1031852 Unsure but fan translations take time and sadly many are full of sjweebs.

>>1031854 Any fan translation done of this game though would be done explicitly for the purpose of combating the kind of shit SJWeebs insert into translations.

ok game, but it's a pity I can't use 4chan or a faster board to talk about it. Without forums, game culture dies.

Then talk about the game.

>>1032137 Why can't you use 4chan to talk about it? Did they ban Metaphor discussion?

>Fags talking about using cuckchan What an unpleasant sight.

>>1028446 game on hard mode seems very reliant on getting the drop on enemies. Turns a 15 second fight into a 3 or 4 minute fight if the opposite happens. Sticking mass heals (or ensuring you have enough items) on at least two of your party members seems to be very prudent. I don't like how the party recovery feature uses party MP versus the massive stockpile of recovery items I have for the exact purpose of getting the party to recover after fights. (In that regard, if you have enough cash, which the game seems to drown you in after a point, First Aid looks completely useless.) The turn fuckery can either be neat or really fucking annoying. (Oh, your AOE spell hit 3/4 enemies? Well, there goes the rest of your turn, even if the 3 hit enemies were weak to it.)

>>1032914 >game on hard mode seems very reliant on getting the drop on enemies. Turns a 15 second fight into a 3 or 4 minute fight if the opposite happens. Sticking mass heals (or ensuring you have enough items) on at least two of your party members seems to be very prudent. I don't like how the party recovery feature uses party MP versus the massive stockpile of recovery items I have for the exact purpose of getting the party to recover after fights. (In that regard, if you have enough cash, which the game seems to drown you in after a point, First Aid looks completely useless.) >The turn fuckery can either be neat or really fucking annoying. (Oh, your AOE spell hit 3/4 enemies? Well, there goes the rest of your turn, even if the 3 hit enemies were weak to it.) Sounds like the usual atlus gameplay.

>>1032914 Atlus being Atlus.

I just met Eupha.

California localization aside what made retards from both camps rush to say this game was woke?

>>1032765 Nobody's talking about the game (much) because the two anons ITT playing it aren't posting in here about it, and nobody else is bothering. >>1034407 The general obsession around persona and its peers is my only guess. That and this censorship+DEI shit reaching a boiling point for normalfaggots and people feeling more emboldened to speak out as a consequence, since they see more people doing it and realize it's socially acceptable. The left, in turn, want to put a bottle on that new behavior in order to maintain control, as well as love to claim things as their own.

>>1034407 It was two things: on one side they are so used to Japanese games being ruined by activism they are on the lookout and go on the attack the second something appears to have it. On the other side woke games have accrued a bunch of losses this year and they're desperate for a win.

>>1034407 The game has a shit localisation but is otherwise pretty politically nuanced. You've had Sjweebs try very hard to paint the game as woke, and you've had retards like Trust me bro it's from the beta! fag, or idiots taking shit from the game out of context to say it's sjw.

>>1034407 The MC dreams for an ideal utopian world which is just a globalist kike wet dream. This shit is not exclusive in this game too, fucking anime has it too, with shit like pic related. It's all so tiresome.

>>1034497 His ideals are deeply criticised in the game. He later admits it's flawed and, while he doesn't give up on trying to have a better society. The MC also is open to alternatives and compromises.

>>1034407 The localization is more mid-tier. Usually keeps the general idea of what was said, characterization is generally okay past the prologue. Gallica and the fatass soldier guy, two commonly cited examples, have more solid characterization later on that cements them as about the same to the original. Strohl is probably the most consistent between dub/sub, and is a fantastic bro-tier character. I play eng sub, which the sub is just dubtitles, but I hear what is being said and I know enough rough japanime language that plenty of times where I'm paying attention to both the jp voice acting and lines I hear something that matches up fine with what I read in the text. As for the politics of the game, other anons have already said it best. It's aggressively centrist (not at the start though, which explains the confusion) with plenty of critiques of woke shit. (Heismay being racist while also experiencing classic fantasy racism, for example.) But don't expect much Western politics critique because these things are mostly reflective of the questions present in Japanese society. I've been playing it, still in the Island chain, having a lot of fun. There's a lot of charming heart here, but all the problems I see are apparently just common Atlus-isms. One mod I'd like to see, even if it fucks balance (maybe it'd have to be paired with a rebalancer mod), is archetypes that are further down the lineage inheriting all skills of the previous lineage. Or at least the passives. Game can't decide whether or not Wizard is supposed to be a plainly stronger replacement than Mage.

https://fitgirl-repacks.site/metaphor-refantazio/ here

Junah is also cute. >>1034407 Because MC is a buck on a quest to save his boyfriend. I am not the joking you my friend.

>>1034652 But the MC is the Prince

>>1034654 ^...^

>>1034652 >Because MC is a buck on a quest to save his boyfriend. That shit is just fujobait. He and the prince don't actually have a relationship at all because they're the same person. All of the MC's actual implied love interests are women.

How is he so sexo?

Seriously, it's like this game is too embarrassed to sex up women in it so they sexed up and feminized the male antagonists instead.

Why is Hulk so hungry? >>1030014 Well it's a good game and the competition this year is literally just other Atlus games. >P3 reload >SMT V dlc Exception: ER SotE

>>1035419 >Come for Griffith femboy >Stay for autistic redheaded hungry elf How did this happen?

>>1034652 >OMG A GAUNTLET RUNNER Neuras is /g/ incarnate.

>>1033275 So is her race technically a hivemind or something and hence the third eye? That's how I interpreted it.

>>1035447 Dork wife is powerful.

>>1035408 >>1035419 >>1035447 Redhead elf saber has no butt. Fatlus took her butt away. Sitting down must be painful.

>>1030894 >>1030899 I mean I kinda agree that the relationship shit was becoming too much like VN shit and needed more of a gameplay element. But I'm shocked it was removed full stop. They just needed to change the formula and make it more of a game and less a "guess the answer" thing with some character/narrative interaction focus. Because honestly, it's a little tedious in Metaphor. The gameplay in dungeons was far more interesting. But honestly I think they should look at Fallout NV and see what it did with factions. I prefer that route, where the action gameplay is intrinsic with the dialogue trees and factional choices. Plus I find FNV's character interactions payoff well in the end, having their own unique endings. That's where metaphor should have gone - it had races there, it had religious and political factions, it had the sidekicks, etc. Everything was there to do this but they just did Persona relationship stuff instead. Was a bit disappointing, but not that disappointing.

>>1035456 I like petite but plump butts.

She is a flat out tuturu~ clone.

>>1035457 >But I'm shocked it was removed full stop. They didn't remove it full stop >>1030756 >>1030758 >>1030760 They just made this poor comprise that made bonds kinda jarring as they don't know if they want to be platonic or full on romance. My guess is Atlus will cave in a re-release.

>ywn have an alternative ending where you simply join Louis as a consort or something He's basically Devilman's Satan, why not go further and give the "what if Devilman aligned with Satan" scenario?

>>1035458 Her ass is a flat wall in the game. Like, when she's sitting down I'm pretty sure you could use it to help plane wood. I got a mod that gives her butt a better texture but we need a ass model mod. Man, a mod that gives everyone back their buttcheeks would be great. Don't care if it inflates Strohl's cheeks if it means I can appreciate Hulkenass.

>>1035570 Are you still pushing that narrative about the image?

>>1035583 >>1035570 Game is already on pirate sites someone should just dump the dumpy and get this dumb argument over with.

>>1035527 He was largely correct. Get rid of the evil for the sake of evil shit and he becomes de-facto the best candidate for the throne. >>1035583 schizophrenic retard, not that anon She's a bit more plump in other official arts instead of looking like someone took a planer to her butt. The intended svelte look.

>>1035689 >She's a bit more plump in other official arts Proofs? >>1034654 >>1034666 Revelation :ooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo

Just started playing the extended demo. The audio mixing is absolute dogshit.

>>1035728 They did a patch for the game that fixes that but sadly is not in the cracked ver.

>>1035693 Slight ass in the intro cutscene. Official artworks you see more of a curve, but this one I found, theres no real butt texture, despite it being more curvy. Sad!

>>1035879 She looks like how Elves look in most Atlus games.

>>1035886 >make muscle elf race >Don't load them up with junk in the trunk A-and you say that Atlus does this regularly??

>>1035920 maybe?

>>1035920 Anon, I'm afraid it's a rather STICKY situation.

>>1035879 What's the general plumpness factor for ReFantazio's asses?

>>1036081 no junk in those trunks

>>1036081 Both Catterina and Eupha have pretty big asses, actually. You won't see Eupha's unless you use the Etrian DLC though.

With the new decensor mod out Metaphor is now a /v/-acceptable experience to torrent, assuming you don't mind the lack of a dating sim. Ass anon can fuck off now. https://gamebanana.com/mods/553085 holy shit why can't I upload a tar.gz file

>>1036643 For the record this is just a texture it doesn't edit the model at all. It adds visuals to the model that make it appear better from certain angles but it doesn't actually fix the flatness (ie: if you look from side on it's still Hank Hill shaped). There are actual nude mods with a properly shaped ass, so I don't know why someone hasn't fully edited it yet but I assume it will come.

>>1036643 Finally, it's embarrassing this was necessary though.

>>1036643 >This Mod has been initially hidden, based off our Guest-user Content Visibility Settings. >To customize this, please login or sign up.

>>1036643 Also, install instructions doko? Dunno where to chuck this and there's no dll to point to.

>>1036745 Don't even know what site that is but based on your post it's as retarded as nexus.

>>1036757 Nah, Nexus would probably remove it outright.

>>1036643 This so fucking retarded.

>>1034654 >>1034666 I got to this part last night. Got kinda weird when Hulkenberg popped a boner. And when the forest fairies were bullying Gallica for being too white.

>>1037098 >Got kinda weird when Hulkenberg popped a boner. Because it's heavily implied she's always been wet for the prince.

>>1037108 It's almost as if all the main female characters have a thing for the MC just like Persona and they just didn't do the last 5%.

>>1037230 >they just didn't do the last 5%. Its still so weird they went half baked.

>>1037108 >Hulkenberg /ss/

>>1037242 Remember Atlus cucked out one s rank short of us taking this autistic elf to bed.

>>1037676 I don't think it was ever confirmed, i don't doubt it could be a thing, i even believe it's probably a thing, seeing how the games feel like they removed/rewrote stuff midway there is just no hard evidence

>>1037676 Because everyone is owed a nice ass. Ass equality, now.

>>1037676 If there was hard evidence I'd believe, but that anon and Twittertards never could give a source.

>>1037833 This game has more issues than that ass anyway.

>>1037838 If we ignore then localisation, the game feels rushed and cut (see partial romance, plotlines that feel shorter, character arcs feel rushed) I feel that Atlus didn't really know what do with this game, but they had to put something out.

>>1037853 >but they had to put something out. To get a quick buck to fund for Persona 6 probably.

>>1037855 I actually prefer Metaphor: ReFantazio to persona in a lot of ways, this game getting somewhat shafted pisses me off. Atlus should've gone full in with this.

Cool game, but i'll wait for the Vengeance Redux Royal Golden Maniax Fes Edition to play which will release in 2 years.

>>1038057 The Vengeance Redux Royal Golden Maniax Fes Edition might not be available to be pirate though.

>>1038057 Most likely they will add stupid shit like all their remakes/remasters.

>>1038541 They'll also shoehorn in one (1) female character into the game and present it as a feature.

>>1038541 >>1038563 Apparently the game already has cut content people are finding in the files. Such as a bunch of not!social links like Batlin and combat data for Fidelio and Rela. A youtuber named Faz who makes videos about Persona cut content will be doing one on it soon.

>play [Class] >unlock [Better Class] <it's a shitty side-grade not even the miserly inheritance system can fix

>>1038577 It's clear they cut shit and don't be shocked if this magically appears in a new version.

>>1038577 >>1038656 Probably in time for Switch 2 launch.

>>1038725 I'd not be surprised.

>>1038541 >New difficulty that increases enemy stats by 3x and all rewards received by 30x >New female character shoehorned into the main plot that you MUST spend time with to progress the new content >New content completely fucks up the original game's balance by giving you shit tons of new options >New optional "dungeon" to farm easy EXP/Gold/Mag/Whatever currency they use in this game >That'll be 70 dollars goy :^)

>>1038847 Can't be as bad as whatever happened to SMT4: Apocalypse

>>1038976 Apocalypse was a sequel, not an enhanced version.

>>1038976 Their remakes are just as bad.

>>1038847 Here's how it's going to go down /v/ >Atlus will redo the partial romances to full on romances >Rella might become a party member due to her having combat data >Story will have changes and new areas >New party member might appear >Gameplay mechanics and features they couldn't put in originally >A number of bond features they most likely had to cut will be placed back in >New archetypes >New ending >Sega will push for an anime to be released Anything to add?

So who wins for ""soundtrack""? """Elden Ring DLC"""?: https://youtu.be/QnMnEWjSCSk Or """Metaphor"""? https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zQZa--r5FrU https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tsHLe9qaxuQ While I like Metaphor's a lot, I think Elden almost beats LotR let alone Metaphor's.

>>1040373 I think the leak clearly was bait because they definitely have so much room for additions and I think SotE opens the door to turning DLCs into more than mere expansions and more like something short of a sequel. So they'll bait with the leak and then force DRM with the inevitable additions. And I might struggle to resist it because I like this game too much.

>>1038613 On the one hand I don't mind the archetypes. On the other, I hate how persona relationship shenanigans locks you out of it a lot of the time and you're FORCED to play the main quest. What were they thinking? Now I cut my hours down in this game instead of mindless pointless grinding for OP shit early game. Don't they want people to do this now? It extends the game time significantly. It's not like Persona where you have Mementos and the relationship stuff is just padding really. Now if you don't talk to several people, you're forced to never get end game seeker/More's shit. That wasn't a problem in Persona, you could just ignore people you disliked. In Metaphor you're kinda FORCED to talk to people you dislike. Then again, that might be the point thematically.

>>1038577 >combat data for Fidelio and Rela Oh ffs Atlus. They're so much better than idoltrash and many of the other characters. >still no Brig Now that's just interesting. She's way too good to just be just a social link. Same with Blue Michael Jackson con artist.

>>1040300 too much ass.

>>1040535 Elden Ring.

Got this gifted to me and it's a pretty standard JRPG plot. This isn't really left leaning.

>>1044021 do irish have no ass?

>>1044132 No, they fear it.

>>1035527 >He's basically Devilman's Satan, why not go further and give the "what if Devilman aligned with Satan" scenario? Doesn't work anon, it's already been tried and you need futa-Satan to fuck herself for that to happen. >>1044154 Thanks for reminding me of that.

People are still trolling this thread over the ass?

>>1048799 What?

I want to fuck Catherina Finished the game. Full thoughts. >Archetype system is hit and miss. Adept/Elite archetypes needed to be straight upgrades in all regards. Not have losses. That was retarded. The Prince archetype is appropriately OP, though I was surprised how utterly OP the endgame Berserker archetype was. >MP management here is cancer. Endgame you have an archetype that lets you effectively gain shitloads of MP on dodge (outside of squad battles.) Just make MP recovery outside of battle progressively convenient as time goes on. Easily the worst part of the gameplay. Enjoy mindlessly grinding in the last area to get your MP back 4 times. I think I grinded more for MP in dungeons than any other metric (cash, mag) in the game. >Entire game revolves around 1 turning the enemy, that is when you build and grind correctly you can and will one shot every enemy in the game. Enemies can do the same, especially the final boss. Interesting idea. Enjoyed and hated it. >Time gimmick was done well here, though I wish there was more non-consequential story activities to do in that end stretch. Midgame it felt perfect. Royal virtues felt awkward, like they shoehorned in a stat to reward for doing activities. >Bond system was hit or miss. Some felt complete (e.g. Strohl) others did not (Gallica, Alonzo, Neuras, More, Maria, I think they were unsure what to do with Catherina.) Some characters felt significant enough to really warrant a bond. (Batlin, specifically.) Liked the system overall. Needed more, though. >Gear system also felt a bit incomplete. Not as much as other systems, but the Purification gimmick wasn't used much. Now plot. A lot to praise, a bit to complain about. >Presents a lot of social 'ideals' at the beginning, progressively tears them down or points holes in the logic. Takes awhile for the game to do the same for the Protag's ideals, but they settle for a pretty middle-of-the-road politics approach in the end there. >Concerns of being leftist. I'd say there is some milquetoast progressive things in here (mostly is fantasy racism and how to solve it) but the writers aren't retarded Californians. It doesn't fall into the trap of only making the ideology they agree with believable and 'good', though the ideology that wins crucially is the republic oligarchy. (Implication the Kingdom is on its way to becoming the UK of all things.) >Mixed about the final antagonist. Refreshingly straight forward with the final baddie. I expected someone else but they were remarkably consistent about Louis being the BBEG. Ending morals still boiled down to "I have friends and you don't!", to be expected as it IS Fantasy Persona. But its a bit more mature as it is really more of a "I'm willing to work together with people for an indeterminate future. You don't." Disappointed you couldn't get a "Overall Louis was right" manipulated ending, but whatever. Maybe in the Gallica Poses Erotically (Game of the Year) edition of the game. >Overall a decent fantasy underdog tale about some schmuck becoming king. Many likable characters. Straightforward antag. >>1035527 I wish they didn't turn his ass retarded at the end there. He was ultimately right about the problem (as Strohl points out) and the basic idea of a solution (as Strohl I think also points out, and you as the MC can also point out.) but fumbled the bag on what he was going to do about it. Definitely had "two sides of the same coin" vibes for the MC and Louis, which is probably why Louis's origin story was an Elda. If I had to put it into words, it felt like Louis was ultimately the Gnostic equivalent of the teenage edgy nihilist. Magla really did just make everything worse. As More points out.

>>1051795 I also felt the bonds both the platonic and especially the partial romance bonds felt incomplete. It feels like they were stuck in the persona mines for so long that they couldn't figure out what to do with bonds. If we get a "Royal" edition I genuinely hope they'll fix the MP and balancing issues. Also Atlus just add romances fully back in as this in-between is just awkward. Just have it like on any other fantasy RPG where you can opt in or out of romance. Make the royal virtues more fleshed out and less "just a stat dump". Let us truly change outfits/armor like other fantasy RPGs Atlus. >Sounds like they rushed the game Yes this game was clearly rushed after being in development hell for 8 years and you can tell by the missing features that should've been in the game already. A Royal edition will be filled with stuff that should've been day 1 all at full price in a year or two.

>>1048799 This thread is ass

>>1052533 I'm genuinely impressed.

>>1052533 More like this thread lacks ass

>>1052586 I come to rescue, I am the ass. You're ugly

>>1052533 >>1052575 >>1052586 >>1052602 I request more fae ass instead of autism

>>1052613 Fae's are underrepresented in fantasy. Elves hog all the spotlight in fantasy creatures when faes are more magical and easy to imagine hiding in real life