>>1069329 It's entirely possible, however the reason I blame Deep Silver is because they did the same shit with the Saints Row reboot. It doesn't excuse how Varva is acting over the mild criticism and how he refuses to respond to good faith arguments while promoting the bad ones. That's not to forgive the retards who're promoting the idea of censorship and banning games that they don't agree with. They want to outright ban the game because allegedly Hans and Henry are underage characters, which is retarded because it's a video game. It's like saying violence in video games makes people violent in real life, it's just retarded authoritarianism bullshit. People like the wife beaters over at Fandom Pulse and Mark Kern are just the other side of the extremist fence. While I understand that some people here are sick of the constant pandering to the trannys and the blacks, you have to also understand that a free market without any government funds or social interest groups would be the best way to combat that since publishers and developers would want to focus on what makes money. Not every game has to be Senran Kagura or Life is Strange, nor should it be. I think generally having more choice in games is always a GOOD thing. Although in this case it's clearly being pushed because Warhorse and Deep Silver were too sympathetic to the propaganda, and the sad thing is that we don't really have a free market in the games industry right now mainly because Xbox and PlayStation are run by commie retards. Still, this doesn't excuse that Varva outright lied to his consumer base about what he wanted to do with the game and should've elaborated on how the second game was different than the first game in this approach. In a sense I see it as a communication failure since people were expecting to buy a historically accurate Christian game but instead got a semi-realistic RPG where you play as a knight in the 1400s. This whole situation is a cluster fuck and everyone involved should be ashamed of themselves.

Hope lads are doing what I am and saving an archiving as much as possible, especially everything about the leaks, because come next release both Deep Silver/Warhorse and the people they are blatantly paying to defend them are going start gaslighting the fuck out of this whole situation and reducing it to "muh homophobia, muh racism". What disgusts me the most, are the people who told everyone not to judge the leaks because we didn't even know if they were real, and once the game came out and the leaks proven very real, with the context being even worse than what people expected with all the historically unnaccurate shit and god awful writing, that the leaks didn't matter and the game should totally be free to add fags and niggers to the game out of creative liberty completely ignoring the setting or the previous game. Absolutely disingenuous vomit It seems Vavra got well connected to Gamergate figures because many of the ecelebs I'm seeing are acting exactly like mainstream journalists defending this shit.

>>1069650 >Mark Kern <extremist He's a guy who waffles his opinions based on whatever seems to be more expedient, hardly an extremist lmao

>>1069655 >It seems Vavra got well connected to Gamergate figures because many of the ecelebs I'm seeing are acting exactly like mainstream journalists defending this shit. As opposed to other GG/SBI personalities attacking it acting like mainstream journalists and triggered tumblrites acting like everything they don't like is pedophilia and even reporting it to Steam as such? Are people just completely unaware of history? Is anyone complaining about this shit even there during 2014?

>>1069657 IIRC Jon del Arroz is the one who wrote the child sodomy article as his "revenge" because Vavra pulled a domestic violence court case to "own" him on twatter. That tactic was a bit too scummy for my taste but it's really just those two faggots slap fighting. Everyone else is complaining about the actual anachronistic bullshit in the game and the blatant homosexual retcon for Henry and Hans. With the exception of that Jon del Arroz guy with that last article, Vavra and his parade of dicksuckers have been the aggressors here, refusing to talk, telling people to go fuck themselves and mass banning criticism. For the most part I see a bunch of optics cucks who think that if a game is good it can't be pozzed and going absolutely apeshit when you correctly point out the pozzed shit in the game.

>>1069657 Both aren't mutually exclusive "Anti woke" grifters aren't helping and are just giving these cunts more fuel with which they can defend this Bethesda/Creative Assembly tier move by Vavra. Warhorse are also banning a shitton of people justifiably criticizing his game which I see none of these fucks defend. If you have any self awareness you will realize that your lane isn't exempt of grifters who will be all so happy to ignore bad faith arguments done by Warhorse and go back on their own word without any consistence to the ideals they pretend to uphold. Which is why they call everyone and everything they don't like an "Anti Woke" grift, even those without a following.

>>1069657 >>1069661 At this point I kind of assume anyone on both sides of the culture war are grifters of some stripe unless actually proven to the contrary.

>>1069662 I always assume anyone that stream and/or deal with videos and stuff are grifters, they think of things as "content" first.

>>1069522 >hemaprodite >having both things That is NOT how hermaphroditism works in humans. Holy fuck shit. Also, even if a person was born with hermaphroditism, in medieval times people would dumbster defective babies without exceptions. Historically inaccurate and scientifically inaccurate. Bravo Varva.

>>1069662 >Muh both sides Fuckoff, Vavra sold his company out and watered down his game to pander. That's reality regardless of the people trying to profit off the controversy.

>>1069659 >Everyone else is complaining about the actual anachronistic bullshit in the game and the blatant homosexual retcon for Henry and Hans. With the exception of that Jon del Arroz guy with that last article, Vavra and his parade of dicksuckers have been the aggressors here, refusing to talk, telling people to go fuck themselves and mass banning criticism. Both on this thread and on Foxdick people have repeatiedly try to frame this through the pedo angle. The "aggressor" that first started is the rumormongering of being banned in Arabia etc. before release and the faggot enclave of "the real game awards" that tried starting shit over it. Vavra is being the aggressive cunt he's always been and people are mad he's not kissing their ring after loving him for not kissing the lefties' ring beforehand. I don't exclude the possibility Vavra became a faggot, the dev team "mellowing out" as a result of growing or even that Warhorse sold out, but those involved in the drama are talking past eachother be it intentionally or it being all they see and is worth responding to. Unfortunately I'm busy with other videogames to be able to tell for myself who's full of shit and who isn't, so I won't look into it myself for a long while after the drama sits. >>1069661 >Warhorse are also banning a shitton of people justifiably criticizing his game which I see none of these fucks defend. IIRC that was a Community manager company assigned to their steam forums by their higher-ups. Regardless it's less about sides and more about the differences between disappointment of jews, niggers and faggots being there at all regardless of context, disagreement on what level of detachment from real history is acceptable in pseudo-historical fiction and outrage farming from fags that don't even wanna play the game, let alone touch the first one. The latter have been drowning out the former two since ecelebs gonna eceleb and only the loudest faggots "win" in their echochambers, be it through intentional shit stirrers or just genuine retards that think devs owe them faggot and nigger free games forever after catering to them once.

Has anyone actually played the game?

>>1069679 I was playing the first game earlier. I didn't much care for it.

>>1069676 >catering to them once EA, Creative Assembly and Ubisoft haven't catered to me in years and I call out their anachronistic bullshit. Why wouldn't I call Warhorse for doing the same?

>>1069703 You're free to do so and have all the right to do it, just remember that employing the same rhetoric and tactics of the people that would have previously to the defense of those companies in the past is unlikely to get people to agree with you in a group that was formed as a response to said rhetoric and tactics. Especially since the in-game codex pretty much admits when and where it diverges from reality, from what is the original age of the fictionalized person to what liberties they take and pretty much admits to being historical fiction. Part of the drama is that you have several people who supported the first game be pro-free expression first and foremost instead of historical or culture-war autism and the ecelebs are sowing discord for their own personal hangups all the way if it's not another attempt at a power grab. Only a relatively very small portion of the people arguing actually played the 80--120 hour game and they are very much not at the forefront of the discussion as either a defender or a supporter which makes the whole thing even muddier, going off 3rd hand information in a lot of the discussion thus there not being a clear truth most can agree on.

>>1069690 It never looked particularly interesting to me. >>1069676 >genuine retards that think devs owe them faggot and nigger free games forever after catering to them once. It was fucking stupid for them to do it once then if they weren't going to keep it up. Now they've worked themselves into a situation where the left won't forgive them for courting GG and going against diversity the first time and now the right won't forgive them for abandoning their previous position and "going woke". They've basically made everyone hate them and now the only people who are really going to be on their side are HEMA sim autists, which are a niche group of people at best. Vavara is an idiot. If e was always going to going to go down this route then he should have blacked and trannyed his first game to start with and begged for them Soros DEI bucks.

>>1069679 I played several hours and beforehand watched reviews and gameplay videos. It's a lot like the first game in terms of systems except it is somewhat casualized and some of the janky edges have been sanded off. However, that comes with a bit of AAA-like corner cutting in form of some inaccessible interiors and focusing too much on set pieces instead of making proper churches. The game did add new elements too, like Crossbows and later on proto-firearms. That's a point in favor of authenticity since Bohemia was a crossbow country and Hussite wars were one of the first conflicts in Europe when first fire arms were used. First game only had bows due to budget and time limitations. This game also has spears bur they are just there. One big thing the game has going for it is the optimization. A lot high budget games these days have muddy visuals and stuttering. KCD2 is very smooth, looks better than most games and my GPU does not sound like a jet engine when playing it. Forests and nature look well and have the feel that reflects similar environments in Czechia and Poland I've seen when I went there. However, all that foliage leads me to agree with >>1069546 on the weapons being tough to find on the ground at times. Having the game highlight items in grass when near enough the would help. I can't think of another solution that can be used until simulating foliage deformation due to a big or heavy object on the ground is practical. I already found that to be a problem in first Crisis and am surprised that there are still games not addressing it. I stopped playing because needlessly inaccessible churches bother me, as does Musa, and modern day politicking. I also happen to have other games that I would like to play before I die more than KCD2 at the moment. It might be worth finishing in couple of years once there's a definitive edition and mods that fix some of the issues.

>>1069676 >IIRC that was a Community manager company assigned to their steam forums by their higher-ups. NO, that was Dr. FaggotSomething, a Warhorse employee. Not Steam, not Embracer, Warhorse itself. >disagreement on what level of detachment from real history is acceptable in pseudo-historical fiction That standard was set by Vavra himself with the first game, he insisted on autistic levels of historical accuracy as a selling point, now he reverses it without warning, and when you ask him why he did a 180, he denies he's changing anything, tells you to go fuck yourself and bans you. This is significantly worse than how he handled SJWs back in 2015.

>>1069732 >That standard was set by Vavra himself with the first game, he insisted on autistic levels of historical accuracy as a selling point, now he reverses it without warning, and when you ask him why he did a 180, he denies he's changing anything, tells you to go fuck yourself and bans you. This is significantly worse than how he handled SJWs back in 2015. His level of hostility came out of nowhere and is frankly a bit weird.

>>1069736 Yeah, I wholeheartedly agree. It's why I think Deep Silver is in play since this just came out of nowhere.

Is this accurate? https://xcancel.com/InformativePlay/status/1888089175443882003#m

>>1069776 Seemingly but it doesn't make it better when looking at >>1069523 + >>1068789

gamergate shit aside, is the game fun?

>>1069985 Apparently yes.

Game broke even right as sales dried up, its over for Kingdom Cuckold 2

>>1070106 What're you talking about, the game still has 182k in game.

>>1070109 Its a long game and it already peaked. most sales come from release weekend.

Do you know what a goy is, anon? And don't worry, I pirated it. >>1069985 Yeah, it's great. It would be fantastic without all the gay and jewish stuff. But the vast majority of the game has nothing to do with that kind of thing.

>>1070260 Is the combat still ball crushing if you forget how to do it, just like in the first one?

The polearms in this game break so damn quickly that my opponent and I are just beating each other with sticks now.

>>1071182 Maybe at first, but once you get the hang of it then nothing can really threaten you, besides someone with a bow or crossbow shooting you while you're busy fighting several other guys in melee. Not bragging, I just think the game is too easy once you figure out the combat system, especially now that they changed the master strike system. In KCD1, master strikes were stat based and mostly random. This meant that when you were fighting tough enemies at high levels, you couldn't really attack them because they'd counter you every time and you couldn't do anything about it, so you just had to play defense and do the same thing to them which kinda sucked. KCD2 fixed that, but by doing so, allows you to be consistently untouchable if you git gud. A lot of people complain about the combat system but I really like it, and KCD2 improved it a lot from the first game, fixing the major problems.

Now that the globohomo money is drying up for the most part thanks to the ongoing federal audit, do you think Kingdom Come III will have more, less, or the same amount of DEI pandering? I'm presuming of course that Vavra doesn't actually give a fuck ideologically and just did the lame and gay shit for the extra cash.

>>1072257 >Now that the globohomo money is drying up for the most part thanks to the ongoing federal audit, do you think Kingdom Come III will have more, less, or the same amount of DEI pandering? There will be no KC3 the normies brought into this from the good word of mouth from the og fans and the dumbed down game-play to draw them in they will still not like it they also back stabbed the og fans with the woke and the game-play that it they are done.

>>1072326 LOL that's wishful thinking. It will take up to several increasingly bad sequels to kill the series at this point.

Just finished the game, and I really feel like the jew stuff and the negro were tacked on on the fly. Seems to me like the writers had a decent story, and then some homo like Vavra told them to put in that lame stuff. If you were to remove the segments directly dealing with these subjects, and a handful of lines mentioning them, the rest of the game would still make perfect sense.

>>1073011 Only so much time after October 7th 2023 to make changes