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UMPC/Handheld thread Anonymous 06/03/2023 (Sat) 18:44:40 Id: 6d9cdb No. 837183
Old thread: >>608298 News >The Rog Ally has released, and it's.. fine. The claimed 2-3x performance boost was closer to 5%-30% and the custom GUI isn't anywhere near the level of the Deck >The Edion in Osaka talked about last thread has set up a longer-term or possibly permanent Steam Deck display following a presumably successful 'trial market', Japan is now one of the few, if not only, countries to sell the Steam Deck at major retailers >Computer and hardware manufacturer Orange Pi has soft-announced their first handheld after a leak. It reportedly accommodates both Linux/Windows, the device will either use a 7800U or a RK3588S processor for the higher-end model and will launch in October with three models costing between an estimated 1500元 ($220) and 3500元 ($500), though prices are not final. There is no publicly known name for the device yet >Gaming analyst firm Omdia estimates Steam Deck has sold over 2,000,000 units so far, having sold 1,600,000 in 2021 alone, and will likely surpass 3,000,000 this year. This makes the SD not just the bestselling UMPC in history, but possibly majority of UMPC sales ever. The firm believes the device "will open the door to a new PC gaming product category" Thread questions >What do you own? >What are you playing on it? >Anybody gotten involved in the scary world of hardmodding yet, and how did it go? >Anything you're excited for?
What upcoming handhelds should I keep in mind if I buy in 2025 with a budget of $1500? Any news sites cover this?
>>1015270 >$1500 You can buy almost any of them, literally just wait for whatever looks the best to you
>>1015270 If you plan on using it out and about, I'd suggest the deck solely for its suspend feature. As far as I am aware, Windows handhelds do not have the ability to just tap the power button and properly suspend like actual handheld consoles.
>>1013585 >The Deck likely hasn't sold more than 2-3 million by this point, which is beyond baby numbers for a console. We do not know how much it really sold because valve did not release numbers. All they said was that it exceeded expectation and we can only speculate. Omdia and other market research orgs' estimates put deck as exceeding the 3 million sales mark sometime in 2023. By now it's probably at 4 to 5 millions range if not inching towards 6. It's reaching about 10% of PS5 sales. All we really know is that deck sold well enough to stay in topsellers list on steam since the release, for valve to make an OLED version and to continue the push for the deck. Many new releases bother to optimize for deck, and that's another sign of its popularity. >Not really, its just that people stopped giving a fuck. After the first 2 threads, they turned to being as slow as molasses, which is really fucking sad for a new gaming device that was supposed to be the next big thing. This thread itself is over a year and 3 months old and has less than 200 replies. Most of these handhelds are portable PCs. A lot of console threads are driven by discussions about exclusives and what console manufacturers' decisions or press releases. And to a lesser extent things like complaints, troubleshooting and hardware modding. New handhelds do not have exclusives. Valve is tight lipped and there's been a slowdown with other manufacturers' announcements lately now that a bunch of deck competitors are out already. Besides that, as popular as handhelds got again, they a are niche devices in the end. More so now than in the past, since kids these days play games on their phones or use nintendo switch.
>>1017235 >>1013585 Omdia's report estimated the lifetime sales count for Valve's Steam Deck would reach 3.47 million as 2023 ends. Steam Deck came out February 25, 2022. 2023 ended January 1, 2024. So 3.47 million sales estimated in 675 days. We're September 22, 2024. January 1, 2024 to September 22, 2024 is 265 days. 265/675's 0.39259 with repeat 259. 0.39259x3.47 is 1.362296 (296 repeats) plus 3.47 is 4.832296 (296 repeats), 4,832,296 sales at a constant rate. But the rate's changed as now Steam Deck actually has many competitors. I'd guess it's nearer 4 than 5 million.
>>1015270 When in 2025? Handheld market's changing fast, better you buy later if later's far.
>>1015270 Too many rumors of the next iteration for all of them. Already got a Steam Dork for cheap. Aiming for the Legion if and when the price will go down.
Is buying a steam dick even a good idea?
>>1017356 Better idea than buying a Switch. Problem is, the steamdeck is underpowered. I would personally wait a generation or 2.
For buying handhelds Deck is a bad idea when better alternatives are out and Switch is a bad idea when the better Switch 2's around the corner. >>1017343's Legion is a good idea.
>>1017364 What are the better Deck alternatives?
>>1017366 Wait a year and get a Deck 2
>>1017373 This is the same company that's still selling a 1440x1600 resolution HMD for $1,000. I don't think obsolescence is an incentive for them to compete.
>>1017356 SD remains the best device for the price. SteamOS is very buggy with third party plugins.
>>1017356 Like the others have said, I agree the best move is to either wait for gen 2, or wait for the OLED models to go on sale, which will probably coincide with the release of the gen 2s as they try to get rid of old stock
>>1017358 >>1017478 >>1017488 I wont have the cash for it until next year so maybe if the next model is decent if it's more of the same eh. As long as it's the same price whatever.
>>1017478 Magic 8 Balls are electronic now? Surely this can't be cheaper to make than the old version. Why even make this change?
>>1017815 Probably just some guy's Arduino project.
>>1017931 Arduino projects are great, I used to follow Arduino tutorials on Instructables.
>>>/v/1020968 Imagine how the Playstation Portal would fare in 2015. That hunk of shit is selling units apparently.
>>1021060 The PS Portal has only sold around four hundred thousand units. It's a very niche product though, but reportedly doing better than Sony predicted. Not really fair to compare it against the Deck, which is an actual system and has sold roughly ten times more.
>>1021060 Well, Vita had remote play for PS4, right?
>>1021199 Yeah, I liked that feature. But the Vita also had actual games for it. That's a pretty major factor. If it was purely Remote Play, that would suck. PSP also had Remote Play with PS3, but it only worked for a few PS3 games. It did work for PS1 games, though. So I could put PS1 games in my PS3 and then play them on my PSP over the internet. The lag was terrible but it worked for turn based games. Also sometimes I just used it to play games in another room, or handheld while I watched stuff on TV. I remember originally they advertised that Remote Play would allow for different things on the PSP screen, like the PSP could be the rear view mirror in a racing game. That was a cool idea, but I wonder how many games actually did that. The only one I personally know of is Sly 4, which allowed you to use the Vita as basically a set of goggles which would make it easier to find Clue Bottles. It was extremely useful (in fact, arguably made the game too easy), but extremely cumbersome, because for some reason you couldn't use the Vita as the actual controller. It was only a screen, and you still needed the PS3 controller. So basically you had to either put the controller down and pick up the Vita every five seconds, or get used to awkwardly holding the Vita and the controller at the same time. I sort of got used to that, with the Vita on top of the controller, above the L and R buttons, but it certainly seemed like it was more cumbersome than it needed to be. Almost like it was hampered on purpose, because it would have been so easy to just let the Vita be the controller. The only other sort of cool link like that I remember, but not quite relating to the PS Portal, was Resistance 2 and Resistance Retribution. You could plug your PSP into a PS3 and link up the two games, and this would let you use the DualShock 3 to control the PSP game, which was pretty significant since it was a first person shooter. But playing the PSP with a controller is cumbersome, so basically you'd want to plug the PSP into the TV, which you could do with the right cables, but for some reason I could never get it to display fullscreen (even though it worked fine with UMD movies. Yes, I played UMD movies on my TV, because sometimes I owned a movie on UMD and not on DVD. UMDs got pretty cheap after a while). I had to manually get my TV to stretch the non-anamorphic image both horizontally and vertically so that it wouldn't have borders on all sides. It didn't look perfect, and it was way harder than it should have been, but it got the job done. Apparently it also changes the difficulty and adds more enemies and stuff, as well as a bunch of secrets. I wouldn't know because it's the only way I played the game. I think I recall Resistance 2 gets some bonus stuff, too, but nothing like letting use use the PSP as a second screen. I think it just unlocks some basic unlockables or something. I tried looking it up just now and for some reason couldn't find anything. I guess nobody cares. Even the Resistance Wiki doesn't talk about the cool features on the PSP game, and those are very significant, even if cumbersome.
>>1017478 >SteamOS is very buggy with third party plugins. In my experience this isn't the case unless you install a shit ton of plugins and/or stay on the beta steam client releases instead of stable.
>>1021073 I'm just wondering how many would have bought a Portal with PS4 controllers sticking out instead. >it's not really fair Sony gimped this $200 device from its inception with a lack of bluetooth support and no internet browser. I understood what you meant, but I wanted to remind you that the PP sucks by design. >>1021199 The PS app for mobile devices existed at the time. Having a controller with a clip for your phone used to and still works today.
>>837183 Ryujinx is dead
>>1021404 Won't others contribute without gdkchan?
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>>1021404 Nope.
>>1021407 No one knows, the story is actively being developed.
>>1023959 Retro Game Corps is correct RP5 is the best but some ranks are retarded. Why's GB a B on 6 that run 99% of GB full speed?
>>1024018 I wager it's screen aspect ratio and/or really bad integer scaling, like cropping and having black bars on all 4 sides.
>>1024028 I wager this too, still stupid rating bigger screens with more bars under smaller screens with less bars by 2 tiers
>>1024184 I think that largest 5.5" display becomes a 3.8" diagonal when it's a square, compared to the 4" diagonal already square, so none are technically larger for GB content. It does say it's subjective and integer scaling might make any of them better or worse depending on how well they fit vertically, so it might not be far off for anyone seriously autistic about GB.


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