It's a whole new world of retardation.

<Just a Steam Deck <Just some retro games here and there, It's a tad big for my liking. <Never tried it since it's an expensive hobby to experiment with <Mainly the GPD Win 4 refresh since I was looking to replace my Steam Deck with a GPD Win 4 due to the size, but it seems like the 6800U and the 7840U use the same socket.

I own a steam dicks and I exclusively play console type games on it. Lately been playing wolf-zeldo game Okami and that globohomo art dungeon game Going Under

>>837231 >Going Under That game looks like Genital Jousting with a story mode.

the steam deck is gay

>>837277 Oh, were you the inspiration?

>>837231 >wolf-zeldo The Gamecube version or the Wii version? I wonder how well the Wii version would even work with the Deck's controls.

>>837550 Dunno, it's the pc version from Steam (I'm assuming it's Gamecube-like because brush is just joystick based)

How is the anti-glare screen on 512GB version of the deck? I'd rather get the bigger HDD version so I do not have to open and I did not like how reflective screens of vita and PSP were. However, I know that some screen manufacturers like to get carried away with etching and end up making screens look dirty or greasy. I am afriad that the etched screen might be trash and getting the midsize version might be better overall. If reflective screen is bothersome I can always get a protector with etching.

>>839652 I never see my face in mine.

This may come across as a weird request. I want to replace my iPhone and I was wondering if there's any modern equivalent to the Xperia Play? If not, is there at least a smartphone that comes with a physical keyboard built in (Like second pic)? I'm tired of the ALL touch screen aspects of smartphone (Not to mention all the useless features that I never use), and it seems like my only alternative (That at least appeals to me) for a phone with buttons is the Sonim XP5+.

>>839654 Are you a vampire or just fat, dumb, and ugly?

>>839658 >>>/t/ Also check out Planet Computers' offerings.

>>837200 Filthy kafir. Steal and you will be sent to rape.

>>839734 rape who? your mom? I wouldn't rape that whore with your little dick.

I recently got the Steam Deck (512GB model with the anti-glare screen) and the official dock this week. Thank god I bought the latter because the wifi module is about as bad the one present on the Vita and Switch, but games on PC are generally much bigger in size by comparison. So far the games I've tested on the Steam Deck were: >Earth Defense Force 5 Runs well but the framerate is inconsistent but that is very expected for that franchise no matter the platform. Mostly did the late-game missions with a lot of enemies going on, as a tech run, and playing those as Air Raider (with air bombardment calls such as Phobos activated) will bring the fps as low as 15. Which is still better than what I recall the base PS4 model performing in this game. Looking forward to how the Deck will run EDF6 in the future. >Granblue Fantasy Versus Runs well except that the game locks itself if trying to see the command list of characters (thus forcing me to do a game shutdown from the Steam overlay). Apparently an issue with the video codec used as preview thumbnails from what I've read in ProtonDB. >Ace Combat 7 Only tested Pipeline Destruction mission but seemed to do things pretty fine. >Pix the Cat Controls suddenly stopped properly responding when reaching the last twenty or so seconds in the arcade mode >Volcano Princess Got filtered by the math quizz because it requires doing left and right clicks with an actual mice lol. Haven't tried to install any emulator yet, although I do not plan to go beyond the 6th gen of home consoles and the PSP/DS era. I will obviously need more time before giving my final impressions on the Deck, probably more in a month or two.

>>839738 You know who would rape who stinking blue rat jew.

I have a steam deck with windows 10 installed and Steam Deck tools to use the gamepad controls on the deck, when i play some games it get repeating d-pad input like menus going down really fast continuously and there is no fix for. Is Steam Deck tools just bad, is there a better way to use the game pad controls on windows on the steam deck?

>>839826 The issue really is that Deck isn't designed to work on Windows, so you're going to have a weird and janky experience no matter what. There's a >reddit community called WindowsOnDeck you could ask, Windecks have a lot of problems like this.

>>839829 >Win Decks

>>839658 I guess your best option is to get a controller separately. Most connect via bluetooth, but some recent ones use USB-C. For example: https://root-nation.com/en/mob-accessories-en/en-gamesir-x3-type-c-review/

I can't seem to find where the main folders for PPSSPP and Retroarch are located on the Steam Deck (desktop mode), since I want to add bios files and old savedata. Although that's more me being unfamiliar with the Linux's way of arranging things compared to Windows.

>>839881 There's a Nintendo Switch emulator on Android that has a lot of scummy bullshit like you have to pay them to get support for other controllers. The only controllers supported without paying are those gamesir USB-C controllers.

I finally found both the main retroarch and PPSSPP folders after enabling desktop mode of Retroarch itself and copypaste the url, but it turned out the .var folder was simply hidden from view by default on Home. Hence my confusion but that's one less hassle done now.

>>841048 They should be in ssdcard/roms.

>>839658 Get yourself a gaming smartphone anon. Go big or go home. If you can't afford it then pay it in chunks for a year. *forgot the link Pick and choose which one you'd like. https://www.amazon.com/gaming-phones/s?k=gaming+phones

>>841590 I don't have a spare microSD card right now, at least I don't plan on getting one before next month, so I'm relying on the internal 512gb drive for now. I should have mentioned earlier that I installed PPSSPP and Retroarch through Discovery (the software center), but like said previously, the issue has been solved as I found out the .var folder in the "Home" path was originally hidden from view. Retroarch with Swanstation core runs at low thermal power, likewise for PPSSPP, so the battery life of the Steam Deck can last pretty long. The other emulators I will later install are PCSX2 and Dolphin (from their githubs), and maybe Vita3K if it proves to actually run a bunch of specific japanese import vidya without issues.

>>839874 It would be cooler to call it Dex but guess you can't expect a good name from company. Seriously Deck? Ally? Don't these company have whole teams to decide the name of a product?

The Steam Deck is on sale https://store.steampowered.com/sale/decktop100 10% off the 64GB model ($360), 15% off the 256GB model ($450) and 20% off the 512GB model ($520) Not a bad time to pick one up if you were interested.

>>851412 Its the 256GB model worth it?

>>851435 It's an extra $90 for an additional 192GB. There are no hardware differences between the models, except the anti-glare glass on the 512GB model. While you can install your own SSD, it's tricky and you need a specific kind. However, using an SD card is trivial. You can buy a 512GB microSD card for about $40, a 1TB for $100. You can buy a 512GB card and still be saving money over the actual 512GB Deck model, so unless you have some specific use case I don't see the reason to go above the base model.

>>851444 So you can use your own SSD in a base model no problem? Because i got a 4TB WD elements one, does it work?

>>851448 >So you can use your own SSD in a base model no problem? Technically yes, but it needs to be in the M.2 2230 form factor. The Deck's SSD is tiny and fits into a small slot, if you want a bigger one you have to start getting into hardmodding and changing parts on the board. Your 4TB is probably a desktop or even external SSD and is unlikely to fit under any circumstance. Outside of that, replacing the base SSD with an appropriate drive isn't that hard, there are plenty of tutorials on how to do it. You can get 1TB versions of those SSDs for about $80 I think? It's best to stick to an SD card if you don't know what you're doing, but if you want to try your hand at modding it there are a lot of resources out there.

>>851412 >tfw I've bought the 512GB model a month prior to this sale oh well, not that I'm complaining since I like the device so far and it turned out to be a far better investment than I initially expected it to be (as a Linux system and PC handheld). The wifi problem I've described in my post earlier in the thread was fixed by simply using the 5Ghz spot of my router. Beyond Good & Evil was so far the sole game in my library that I needed to tinker its .ini file in order to have the settings manager working and fix the low resolution. Games like Pix the Cat and The Talos Principle could be fixed by switching to Proton Experimental. Otherwise, my japshit seems to work no problem as far as I've tested out, besides the video codecs in GBFVS. For some reason, Xbone controllers (mine and tried out someone else's) don't seem to give any input when paired in bluetooth with my Steam Deck. Absolutely no issues with Dualshock 4 controllers on the other hand.

>>851456 I liestened to you anon, and also caught a good saving on an SSD, thanks for saving me money.

I will never get a steam deck it's just far too ugly holy shit. I mention how I feel about it's appearance every time it gets brought up. It's an unaesthetic gaming fucking slab, a brick, it may be powerful with a whole lot of substance to it but it really should have to sacrifice style as well to do it.

>>851500 It's big enough that I'd rather just have a laptop at that size and carry a controller with me. The GPD or aya neo stuff is the only things I would consider to be actually "ultra" portable. The Steam Deck is essentially just a laptops footprint but easy to hold in your hands when you're sitting. You could realistically pull out one of the aya neo air and have it just sort of look like you're using a phone with an attachment or a nintendo switch. Meanwhile you pull out the steam deck and you look like some fucking retard that doesn't know what a skateboard is for.

>>851500 To me it just seems like a scaled up, rectangular vita, or a wider and thinner wii u tablet. Also, >bitching about the aesthetics of handheld PCs LOL

Its the dock really needed for the steam deck? If so, whats the best one to get quality/price wise?

>>851852 >Its the dock really needed for the steam deck? That depends entirely on what you want to do with it, do you want to use it as a mid-tier computer? >If so, whats the best one to get quality/price wise? I've heard the best quality is Valve's own dock, but if you just want something cheap you could go with something like the MoKo Deck Dock. There are a lot of third-party docks but I don't know much about them. The official dock is the only one with a power supply as far as I know, if that means anything to you.

>>851855 >That depends entirely on what you want to do with it, do you want to use it as a mid-tier computer Basically i want to be able to plug it in the TV and play videogames on the go, i travel alot due to work so i cant precisely carry a beefy PC with me.

>>851852 Official dock gets firmware updates.

>>851852 I own the official Steam Dock and it is useful for plugging an usb stick, external HDD, or even wired keyboard/mice thanks to the three usb ports. Plus the ethernet cable served me as an alternative for Interrnet connection when I struggled to make the wi-fi work normally during the first two weeks. You can transform the Steam Deck into something similar to the Switch by connecting it to the TV, or large PC screen, and then use a bluetooth controller of your choice. The official dock doesn't need to have the AC adapter plugged in order to work, unlike the Switch's dock.

>>851873 >You can transform the Steam Deck into something similar to the Switch by connecting it to the TV TV support is still buggy when using HDMI. If your TV does not provide settings for specifying whether an HDMI signal is Full or Limited RGB, don't be surprised if the Deck outputs an image with crushed blacks.

>>851876 huh didn't know that, I only tried on one TV screen, whereas I personally own a large 32 inch PC screen that I use in similar fashion. There is a bunch of small things that Valve needs to polish up, such as enabling a button that allows to delete shader cache (especially for the games that have been uninstalled). I myself can just delete the folder from the appropriate ID game folder in desktop mode, but the average person may wonder what's going on with the sudden low storage space left.

Most of you have probably already heard this, but new EU laws will require all portable devices to have replaceable batteries, that includes UMPCs. What do you think? The Steam Deck's battery technically is replaceable, but it requires heat to remove it. The new law will require batteries to be replaceable without the use of special equipment such as heat guns or soldering irons.

>>859535 Two points I've heard being raised is that on the one hand you'll see EU models being the norm for the rest of the world - why go through the trouble of making a phone with a swappable battery and not just sell it every where else? - but on the other hand it's likely the batteries will be sold at a premium, or they'll do the same shit Printer manufacturers do insisting that THEIR cartridges are the only ones you can use.

>>859536 >>859536 You forgot the other part part of the EU law is if the battery can't be removed from normal means it has to be service free of charge up to 5 years after the product has been discontinued. As companies cannot soft lock their batteries la printer cartridge bullshit.

>>860113 On that last part, the legislation specifically states >Software shall not be used to impede the replacement of a portable battery or LMT battery, or of their key components, with another compatible battery or key components. They're not messing around here.

does the new aya neo air have thermal issues?

>>860911 no clue, don't own one.

>>861115 You know he wasn't asking you personally, right?

>>861200 I don't own one either

>>861200 Do YOU own one anon?

>>837183 So long as Wingblows/Microcock is getting screwed out of this market I'm happy.

>>851448 >>851456 Pretty much, Framework is even selling Deck compatible parts in a sort of quasi cross pollination market meaning you can support two pro right to repair companies at once. Of course the question then remains what to do with your extra SSD or Emmc drive? I guess you could get a third party dongle case for it to use as an external drive or maybe just restore an old laptop that uses the 2230 form factor.

>>861779 Isn't the EMMC soldered to the board?

>>861781 >Isn't the EMMC soldered to the board? Sometimes but in this case no. Emmc's are technically just two SD cards next to each other which makes them really cheap meaning you typically see them in cheap laptops or tablets which tend to just solder everything.

Are any of those cheap little emulator machines worth it? I want something cheap to take with me travelling and so I'm not heartbroken if I lose it. I was looking at this thing earlier but I'm not sure about it: https://emartonlineshop.com/products/high-quality-nbernic-rg35xx-3-5-inch-64g-5000-games-retro-handheld-game-console-open-source-game-player-anbernic-rg35xx

>>861793 Heard good things about the rg35xx yeah. I have an older model Retroid Pocket, and the one I have is good for up to GBA or PS1. The newer ones can supposedly handle up to PS2ish. Wulff Den does some nice videos on portable emulators if you can't pick one.

The company that made the Arduboy, made the Arduboy FX, which is the just the Arduboy but with the games built in, just got it and it's better than the regular one.

>>861846 I ended up buying an RG35XX. It should be here in a week or so. I'll post my thoughts once I've had a decent play around with it. >>867222 I've always been curious about the Arduboy but never bought one. Are they any good? I love the idea of a Pico-8 fantasy console with actual hardware.

>>867251 I would say Yes, the games are good and now they all come built in now, it's not that expensive either. There is also a Arduboy emulator as well if you want to try out the games.

been playing my steamdeck and playing nick kart racers 3, it runs at a stable 60 fps on low. i had it plugged in though. wuld probably get the best battery life if i locked the screen at 40 on low. also the opening movies only play the audio, for some reason proton can't play videos?

>>868818 get GE Proton.

>>851873 I got the dock too. i got it connected to a 108p monitor. will games get better frame-rate if i just run everything at 720p? i played that berserk mousou and i was dissapointed at the dips. i was wanting to hit 60 but too many dips. on handheld, I can just lock the RR at 40 but I can't change the RR on the monitor

>>868819 I tried the newest ge proton and valve's proton, they both play the opening audio only while valve's proton covers the screen in white and GE covers it in green

>>837183 i wish they had these displays in regular store outside of japan, they look cool

Surprised to see nobody talk about this. Valve is now selling officially refurbished Steam Decks at a huge discount, over $100 off some models. The base model is being sold for only $319. https://store.steampowered.com/sale/steamdeckrefurbished They come with the same warranty as a normal Deck.

>>870490 319 is an INSANE deal. valve is killing it

>>870748 And it's sold out. That said when there are more of them I think I might buy one as do i need a laptop and to show my dad 'switch'-like games when I visit him. We've been playing advance wars yes the reboot recently.

>>861779 Valve isn't right to repair friendly, just that the steamdeck is not designed ass backwards to be as unrepairable as possible. ROG ally is supposedly most modular and easier to repair too. Framework does sell schematics of their motherboards, so its the only right to repair friendly company as far as I know

I was disappointed with the RG35XX at first. Half the PS1 games didn't work. Some would go straight to a black screen, some would load the title screen and then fail when I tried to load the game. A lot of the ROMs that were included with it are mislabeled (i.e. Ridge Racer 1 and Ridge Racer 4 are both just R4). Lots of little things. But since then I've installed GarlicOS on a new micro SD card and I'm now converting my PS1 library from the 7z I use on PC to CHD which is the recommended format for GarlicOS on the RG35XX. Physically the RG35XX is smaller than I expected, and I find it awkward to hold. The L2 and R2 buttons are hard to get comfortable with. Next time I'll go for a model of UMPC with a wide form factor I think, with shoulder buttons like the Switch, and with proper analogue sticks so I can play Ape Escape and emulate N64 games. It's absolutely perfect for GameBoy games, right down to the cute bezel that's built-in to Garlic OS when playing a Game Boy color game, and the dotmatrix filter is actually decent! For the price I paid, and the the ROMs I already had archived on my PC, the RG35XX was worth the money though I wouldn't use it to play action heavy games that require lots of shoulder button use.

>>871201 Didn't valve release all the 3D printing files for the steam deck? Seems kind of weird to say they are friendly to right to repair. The device might not be the easiest thing to repair, and it might be made primarily with repairability in mind, but it also isn't actively fighting it either. >Framework does sell schematics of their motherboards, so its the only right to repair friendly company as far as I know Framework laptops are also insanely overpriced. They're essentially double the cost of an equivalently specced computer.

>>871306 He's retarded anon. A company would not make all repair parts available for purchase if they were not "right to repair friendly." They just tell people not to try and replace the ssd because you might break something to deter normalfags.

>>871201 >Not right to repair friendly >Literally partners with IFixit and opens up repair centers online You are talking out of your fucking ass. >Valve is partnering with iFixit to sell Steam Deck replacement parts https://archive.is/49f1Q Are you gonna go on semantics that they aren't giving them for free??? >Steam Deck repair centers are now online! https://archive.is/OKoN2 Valve were praised by everyone for embracing right to repair in regards to supporting the Steam Deck last year! Or is "Right to repair" different for you, you fucking turd. >>871351 That dipshit is terminally retarded, fucktard made me defend Valve.

>>872105 He probably means the ability to solder the busted part because buying a drop-in replacement makes tech waste or something. It's repairable as meant when talking about hand soldered commodores and analog radios, not "fixing the problem at a reasonable price." The framework also had a problem which required bridging the motherboard with a small soldered wire, cough up money for a new mobo, or deal with it, so the former solution is likely an example of what he means. It's a retarded take unless you're in a third world country where the shipping is way more expensive than the time spent diagnosing and hand repairing.

>Lenovo Legion Go Fuck you niggers that bullied me for wanting removable controllers. It has been achieved.

>>872462 >The framework also had a problem which required bridging the motherboard with a small soldered wire I thought that was only a problem for their first i5 model laptop and honestly they deserve praise for being honest and suggesting an actually solution in my opinion even if that solution is ghetto tier. Other companies would just jerk you off in a forum or phone call and do fuck all to actually help, that is if you even manage to contact them and your not just wasting your time with a bot designed to annoy and demoralize people so they eventually just give up and accept their loss which works most of the time. I mean imagine asking Apple, Samsung, Tesla, or LG for a solution to a hardware flaw, they might go as far as to try and sue you if you complain to much. >>868818 Speaking of batteries with the EU;SSR's new laws regarding removeable batteries I wonder if the Deck 2 will feature such a thing, I mean it's already removable compared to other mobile devices intentionally designed to break but not having to carefully peal it off an adhesive thing would be nice.

>>873544 >honestly they deserve praise for being honest and suggesting an actually solution in my opinion even if that solution is ghetto tier A company does not deserve praise for that in the slightest. Praise would be for them actually eating the cost and and repairing it themselves. Louis Rossmann did a video going over how they could have just hired some guy to sit around doing the basic soldering job and it wouldn't have cost them much but would have built a lot of good faith. Instead we now know that if they release a broken product it's up to you to fix it yourself.

>>873106 >chinkshit kill yourself, you stupid little faggot

>>873817 Wait until you find out where the rest of computers are made

How can I install gog and epic games on the steam deck? the heroic and lutris does not work well for me

>>873829 Heroic launcher is shit but Lutris is the best method. What issue are you having with Lutris?

>>873832 the game didn't even start

Is there any way to play Diablo 2 with a gamepad?

>>873836 That's very vague. What game? How did you attempt to install it? Which version of proton were you using?

>>873852 >>873843 look, now yes, using proton 7.0 although a couple of months ago not even that

>>873852 Click the little box inside of wine, install the latest lutris-GE-Proton, change the game to use that. >>873854 I don't know what you're trying to say.

>>873856 that a few months ago using lutris it didn't work for me, and it kept doing it until recently, but I changed to an old version of proton (7.0) and now it works for me.

https://news.lenovo.com/pressroom/press-releases/legion-go-gaming-handheld-device-and-accessories/ (specs towards the bottom of the page) Lenovo has announced their own new UMPC - the Lenovo Legion Go. Launching at €800. It's apart of a wider Lenovo Legion range they're cooking up including headphones and custom AR(?) glasses. Thoughts? It looks like a mixture between the Deck and the Switch. Definitely seems more cohesive than the ROG Ally did.

>>880264 I'm more interested in the controllers than anything else. Backpedals, split controllers, touch pad. If it has gyro, I would want to use for my pc.

>>880270 Yeah, the controllers are interesting and I would probably get them just to experiment if they were sold alone and working on regular PCs. The one on the right also has something that looks like a scroll wheel.

>>880285 Yeah it does, it also it is a bit weird that the mouse buttons on the right controller.

Since the Pixel shop is now dead, does anyone know of any tinfoil distributors for the Switch? Or am I better off getting my .nsp files from private and public trackers?

>>880264 >>880295 Pretty impressive design, like a PS Move and Nintendo Joycon with the added bonus of being a Gaming Mouse. Lenovo West Taiwan vs ASUS Taiwan here we go..

>>880264 looks too big

>>884718 >looks So are you illiterate, or just too retarded to read the specs?

Question: If OCUlink is the fastest eGPU interface right now then WHY THE FUCK IS THERE NOT AN EGPU ENCLOSURE WITH OCULINK? The only OCUlink stuff I can find for eGPUs is either a mess of boards and cables with nothing to mount into whatsoever OR it's a flimsy barebones "dock" with the video card totally exposed which isn't the least bit portable. Like you're not stuffing that into a bag without breaking the fucking fans on your video card since it's completely exposed. You got GPD and others stuffing OCUlink into devices yet still no actual eGPU enclosures whatsoever for this standard? It's all flimsy jank unless you want to buy a shitty mobile eGPU dock which defeats the purpose of having an open standard like OCUlink at all since you can't just put what you want into that and mobile GPUs are just shittier versions of the desktop cards anyways.

>>884745 >While initially intended for use in laptops for the connection of powerful external GPU boxes, OCuLink's popularity lies primarily in its use for PCIe interconnections in servers, a more prevalent application.

>>884725 That time of the month, huh?

>>884892 Having already gained some prevalence in server applications only makes it more stupid that an established standard still didn't make it into proper eGPU enclosures.

Move out of the way Pal, Valve's got a new Steam Deck mascot

Would you? don't answer that

>>885221 a rhetorical question

>>884745 >>884892 >>885030 Thunderbolt 5 comes out next year. May as well wait for that since Thunderbolt 5 eGPU enclosures will actually exist unlike OCUlink which only has open docks and jank which requires reboots to work. Additionally, Thunderbolt 5 will be 80 Gbps bandwidth compared to OCUlink at 67 Gbps. If you want a Laptop + eGFX it makes no sense not to just wait for better solutions. TL;DR Since Thunderbolt 5 is coming next year OCUlink will be on the way out soon anyways.

Does anyone recommend good accessories for steam deck? Which dock is better, the original one sold on the Steam page or the ones from Jsaux?

>>889204 The Valve one will get you where you're going, but Jsaux has more specialized ones, like ones that come with a spare SSD built into the dock, a dock in the form factor of a outlet cube, and one with RGB lighting.

>>889204 >>889206 Definitely get the JSAUX deck with the M.2 enclosure, using it as dual boot along with emulation storage. Other than that, get the JSAUX Modcase with the Fan Cooler, pretty good along with the backplate, getting 15-20 degrees down on temps.

>>871209 I've thought of getting one of those for the price, but I think I might get the Powkiddy RGB30 for the square display, JELOS, and the slightly better ergonomics. It's still less than $100, too.

New Steam Deck model. So much for Valve saying one wouldn't come for several years. Lauches on the 16th. This coincides with a big price drop, they're going to stop producing the old model and they're now all on sale.

>>905234 Seems they are just stopping production of the old cheapest and old expensive models, leaving the middle LCD model as the new cheapest option while the two more expensive ones are the new OLED models.

>>905234 I'm a little salty over it. Got mine on release at the priciest model.

>>905234 Why'd they go with a spooky red color theme for the OLED model? Was this announcement originally meant to come out before Halloween do you think?

>>905234 >Steam Deck (non-OLED) – 256GB LCD for $399.00 256GB NVMe SSD 1280 x 800 optically bonded LCD display 7″ Diagonal display size 7 nm APU Wi-Fi 5 40Whr battery; 2-8 hours of gameplay (content-dependent) 45W Power supply with 1.5m cable Carrying case Steam profile bundle >Steam Deck OLED – 512GB for $549.00 512GB NVMe SSD 1280 x 800 HDR OLED display 7.4″ Diagonal display size 6 nm APU Wi-Fi 6E 50Whr battery; 3-12 hours of gameplay (content-dependent) 45W Power supply with 2.5m cable Carrying case Steam profile bundle >Steam Deck OLED – 1TB for $649.00 1TB NVMe SSD 1280 x 800 HDR OLED display with premium anti-glare etched glass 7.4″ Diagonal display size 6 nm APU Wi-Fi 6E 50Whr battery; 3-12 hours of gameplay (content-dependent) 45W Power supply with 2.5m cable Carrying case with removable liner Steam profile bundle Exclusive startup movie Exclusive virtual keyboard theme

>>905276 Buy it again you silly paypig. You might as well have pre-ordered the priciest model if you were so eager to burn your money! Beautiful goy.

>>905234 >>905344 So this refresh has >Much better screen >Bigger battery >More efficient chip >More storage at every tier <Exactly the same price as before This is HUGE improvement. There's no reason to buy the base model too, the screen and better chip alone is worth it

From digital foundry benchmarks

>>905434 Feels kind of strange these days when a company releases a better version of an existing product and doesn't increase the price along with it.

>>905451 Volvo's goal isn't to make money with the Deck directly, it's to create their own self-controlled ecosystem outside Windows and spread the use of Steam with people who aren't traditionally PC gamers. That's why they're pushing it so much in East Asia, it's why you can buy a Deck in Taiwan but not Australia which is already decently big on PC. Valve was founded by ex-Microsoft people, they seriously do not trust them.

>>905455 >East Asia, it's why you can buy a Deck in Taiwan but not Australia which is already decently big on PC. Market really got big in just under a year, especially the Chinks at both ASUS and Lenovo being the biggest companies trying to get their own slice of the pie.

>>905434 And just a couple of months after i bought mine. Im content with my deck though, i only wish the battery life was better.

>>905467 Can't you swap the batteries? Or is it physically bigger with the newer model?

>>905434 Suppose I buy the lowest model and crack it open to replace the storage? Combined with the dock and a proper controller and I'll have a bonefide Super Switch.

>>905525 I have no idea, i changed the memory but i havent looked into further modifying my deck.

>>905455 >That's why they're pushing it so much in East Asia, it's why you can buy a Deck in Taiwan but not Australia I hate living in this god forsaken hellhole bros, we aren't allowed to have anything that's fun.... Do you think customs would steal my deck if I brought one home from Japan? Probably, they're fucking pricks.

>>905704 >>905711 Checked, the battery is physically larger, mother board and daughterboards are different, can't swap it with previous models

>>905234 >>905344 Gamers Nexus with their breakdown and comparison https://yewtu.be/watch?v=9jhRh11bTRA

>>905434 So fucking glad I waited lmao. I don't feel too bad for all the guinea pigs because I know they'll sell their old deck at a loss just to get the new one, everybody wins!

>>905842 >Implying this isn't beta testing for the Steam Deck 2 that's coming out next year

>>905344 The OLED models have faster RAM too meaning the APU will be working a little less keeping the machine cooler, honestly I think the LCD Decks should be dropped even lower to be a worth wild buy but whatever. >>905768 My condolences anon. >>905842 Is it really that big of a deal? Now we'll have a huge used market for decks in third world countries once original pre order fags sell their gen1 decks at a slight loss to get the improved ones. Everyone wins in this scenario.

>>905344 >1280 x 800 Not 1080p? Why?

>>905919 That'll be for the Deck 2 of course, valve is pushing the label for how substantial these incremental upgrades can feel.

>>905919 What would be the point? With a screen that small it's still over 200 ppi, higher than a 24 inch 4k screen.

>>905919 Probably cause its easier on APUs to render sub 1080p resolutions, not enough memory bandwidth.

>>905919 https://deckhd.com/

My buddy says when playing indie games or doing light emulation the OLED Deck can do 10 hours without having to recharge, can anybody verifiy? It's not that I don't believe him but I think maybe he's a mixmaxxing god who's an outlier.

>>912264 Doubtful. My LCD Deck has barely lasted over 5 hours at most on a full charge playing indie games and game boy emulation.

>>912386 Are you undervolting?

>>905919 Better for performance. Non-native resolutions look terrible, especially on small screens. That's the issue the Switch has, almost nothing runs at 720p to most games have blurry jaggies as a result.

>>912974 Handhelds work best when games are purpose built for that application and I think in due time with the APU and handheld PC market booming like it is we'll see more games made to work on tiny screens if there aren't already a few examples I'm unaware of.

>>912388 No, Decky fucked up my installation after updating so I am just running stock now.

>>905897 At least we will never have to worry about a Steam Deck 3

I think we should compile a list of 8moe approved 'Meme Deck/and or UMPC in general' games, ie: is actually fun and can be played in their entirety without being docked. Regardless of whether Valve themselves lists said game as verified or not on their store front. Could be a fun little project to help Deck bros and GDP win bros discover some hidden under appreciated gems.

Though in retrospect anything listed as 'has controller support' would probably be fine, also Linux compatibility is gonna be a factor so that automatically disqualifies a large chunk of Ubisoft games, ehh but fuck French leaffags so whatever.

>>905904 >worth wild buy Nigger are you straight-up retarded?

>>917358 Sounds extremely gay and pointless. There is no practical difference between a Steam game and a Steam Deck game unless its literally broken on the latter. It would just be an "Underrated Steam games chart"

I've had my mid-price deck for several months now. Overall, it's a nice piece of hardware. My main motivation was to buy a device that would let me play games without having to sit or being at a desk. I am getting old so my hands can't take too much keyboard and mouse use, and my legs need breaks from sitting. It works well for my purposes. The best thing about the deck are the trackpads and touch screen. They work well for strategy games I tried it with. One I played the most was DoW2. It works better on deck than it does with steam controller. It's great for everything that can be played with a controller. Only genre I ran into issues with were FPS games that require rapid and precise movements. That's mainly due to limitations of the controller as an input method for these games. It applies to gaming on PC with controller and consoles too, so deck is not unique. Trackpads and gyro are better than sticks but they never clicked in my head for FPS like mouse and keyboard did. >>839652 Regular screen is fine. It's not as reflective as the one in Sony's handhelds. >>917358 There isn't much reason to do so. Valve is overly conservative in their compatibility ratings. I've had games that are marked in yellow only as playable working flawlessly with the controls. According to steam and protonDB, about 25% of my library is not playable on deck. About a dozen of untested/unplayable singleplayer games I tired on deck worked too. Granted, I stopped playing multiplayer games close to a decade ago so I do not own an of these. Some might be an issue if they are reliant on EAC or other protective measures.

>>921542 >My main motivation was to buy a device that would let me play games without having to sit or being at a desk. The thing weighs a pound and a half and is as long as a subway footlong.

>>921561 >as long as a subway footlong OH SAY CAN YOU SHART ♫♫

>>921561 Weight and size are not a problem for me. With the whining about how heavy it is, I expected something around 2 lbs or more. Size-wise, it's only slightly bigger than switch. It works well for playing while standing, pacing around, or slav squatting in 20 to 60 minute sessions.

>>867222 Seeing this is making me regret never buying a Gameboy Advance Micro all those years ago when they were still new.

Here's a Windows handheld that I actually like the design of. It's called the AYANEO Flip: https://www.indiegogo.com/projects/ayaneo-flip-world-s-1st-dual-screen-8840u-handheld/coming_soon Anyone heard of these people?

>>867222 Nice. I preordered that all black special edition they put out last month, but it doesn't come until like March. Boasts 100 more games I don't have to manually flash to it though. >>921843 They're still all over ebay at like 100 each, with really lucky chances to get the Famicom plate version.

>>921542 >Granted, I stopped playing multiplayer games close to a decade ago so I do not own an of these. Some might be an issue if they are reliant on EAC or other protective measures Pretty much, new versions of EAC are more linux friendly. That's why Hunt and DBD now work on linux, the devs finally updated their EAC version.

Hey guys, is there any modern PSP clones yet? I was thinking of a handheld with modern or somewhat modern hardware in a case that resembles a PSP or a PS Vita. Something that can run at least some light PS2 and NGC games maybe. I've seen many Android handheld that already got there so the case is my main concern. Anything like that yet?

>>924145 What rock have you been living under, You never heard of AYANEO? Chinese bugmen company like GPD, marginally better at customer support than those jackasses at GPD who make their customers PAY for shipping back their defective units. They were one of the first who went on the Handheld Gaming PC bandwagon when they saw how popular the Switch was before Valve, ASUS, and Lenovo got on board. They do expensive pre-orders like these when they announced new major models.

>>924823 >What rock have you been living under, You never heard of AYANEO? No. But I also don't tend to look at these kinds of things because they either look like shit are don't provide anything over my 3DS/PSP. This, however, I do very much like the design of.

>>841646 >gaming smartphones What games do people even play on these things that aren't emulators? Sure you can play Fortnite and Call of Duty, but other than that every time that I look at Google Play I see nothing but a endless cesspit of asset flip freemium Voodoo games, Candy Crush and Clash of Clan clones, and semi decent arcade games. Simply put, I see nothing that "gaming" phones do that normal phones can't do. What's the appeal I'm missing?

The AYANEO Ayaneo Next Light is no longer shipping with Linux - will be a Windows 11 handheld instead. https://archive.is/ZQQDe https://twitter.com/AYANEO__/status/1750393456789430320 >Following the announcement of the operating system for AYANEO NEXT LITE, players and friends have shown great interest and engaged in lively discussions. Some players provided feedback indicating the continued preference for a Windows operating system. "Real Gamers, Know Gamers," and in response to this valuable feedback, we are pleased to announce that AYANEO NEXT LITE will come pre-installed with the genuine Windows 11 64-bit Home Edition operating system. Of course, players can still choose to install HoloISO on their own. AYANEO's official website provides HoloISO system images that are officially adapted and compatible for players to download and experience. The streamlined and efficient HololSO system aims to offer players a more convenient game management, smooth and stable gaming performance, lower overall power consumption, and native compatibility with both controllers and touchscreen operations. This approach aligns with the gaming habits of handheld device users, providing players with a richer selection of operating systems. This is definitely strange, and I'm not sure about their reasoning. Why do you think Ayaneo might have done this?

>>931879 Number one: <Microshit OY VEYed super hard and offered them hush money to not go through with it Number two: >Aya Neo are gigantic fucking nonces whose eyes glaze up as soon as they see a command line, as evident by why they picked HoloISO when Bazzite exists and is prepackaged with many retardproof utilities, addons, and accessories for them to slap on a "TOTALLY MADE BY AND NOT RICED BY US, AYA NEO YOUR FAVORITE HANDHELD BOUTIQUE" wallpaper. https://bazzite.gg/ Number two(b): >HoloISO itself is going immutable, and part of that transition involves killing the old repo and no longer maintaining. Aya Neo may have contacted the maintainer, gotten this message and misinterpreted it as the distro going dead altogether. https://github.com/HoloISO/holoiso/releases/tag/6-psa

>>931879 >Real Gamers, Know Gamers, Literally what the fuck does that mean? >Why do you think Ayaneo might have done this? If you can bear my tinfoil hat, I feel like Microshit pressured them into doing it. How, I don't know, but Windows has been losing marketshare for years now and I doubt they want to lose out even worse on UMPCs. Ayaneo's explanation is incoherent but from what I can gleam it sounds like they're doing this in response to "feedback", that's bullshit. The Next Light got nothing but positive press by being a Linux handheld, the comments on articles and tweets aren't flooded with "ouuoouoooo oooohh nooo not Linux noooo I need my Windows please let me have my Windoooowwws :((((((", they're all supportive of it. Windows handhelds are a terrible experience, who would want that? Isn't isn't even Linfag "winblows bad" rhetoric, Microsoft simply has not developed the OS to work well in a handheld form factor.

>>924823 >Chinese bugmen company like GPD, marginally better at customer support than those jackasses at GPD who make their customers PAY for shipping back their defective units. So I shouldn't get one of GDP's thunderbolt oculink external GPU thingy's? I was legitimately considering that but if there's a chance I'll get a dud maybe I should reconsider and go with Razor instead even if their E-GPU's aren't anywhere near as compact? Pic related is a GPD G1 card. >>931883 >If you can bear my tinfoil hat, I feel like Microshit pressured them into doing it. Wouldn't be the first time, let's not forget the Browser Wars. Even if this is just wild speculation. >Isn't isn't even Linfag "winblows bad" rhetoric, Microsoft simply has not developed the OS to work well in a handheld form factor. Which is funny too given they had at least a little experience in the smartphone market which ended in failure of course, I guess they've learned nothing from it though. That is what the clusterfuck that was win8 was intended for and even more funny is loonix does a better job at being a bridge between phones tablets and desktops in the all in one OS too, granted the idea never really took off regardless, novel concept at the time but no one cares anymore.... Well except for in China anyway which from what I understand there is a manufacturer that took that concept and actually made it work but I forgot the name but they do have a phone that doubles as a desktop PC when plugged into a monitor.

>>935176 You're better off with the other brands, better customer and tech support with ASUS or Lenovo than those assholes, they got limited reach outside of West Taiwan, and you can wait for better and cheaper E-GPUs, ASUS ROG are going crazy with them and shitting out new models. Check them out.

>>935198 Oh neat I didn't know Asus made small form factor E-gpu's. Not a big fan of the dual thunderbolt + aculink being on a single cable though, I'm sure it makes sense if you actually own an Ally but I don't nor do I plan to. Thanks non the less though.

Also now that I know thunderbolt 5 is around the corner I think aculink will become pretty irrelevant for most people myself included.

>>839658 for a while I tried to find a replacement phone that suited my needs and had a physical keyboard for games and ssh etc. Unfortunately the only stuff I found in the last few years has been verticle slider blackberries and chinky shit with low storage. https://www.gsmarena.com/results.php3?idQwerty=1&sOSes=2&sOSversions=2950,2940,2930,2920,2910,2900,2810,2800,2710,2700 You're better off looking into blutooth keyboards that snap on the back anon, or embracing voice to text because touch screen typing is mega gay. However if all you want is a basic ass phone like a razor there's plenty of options still

>>938345 Just get an NGAGE

>>938417 Anon…mi torso.

Why did phones supplant handhelds?

>>955904 They didn't, they're a different parallel market.

>>955904 Phones became too fragile/large but far more useful and thus require a dedicated pocket. Anything larger than the GBA SP isn't pocketable, just portable.

>>955904 People just want something in their pocket that takes their attention away from boring waiting/commuting. Phones do that perfectly. People used to be angry that "readers" were anti-social because they wouldn't chat with you on trains back in the late 19th century when newspapers and the penny dreadful became popular.

Anyone in this thread with a Steam Deck willing to test out Ninja Gaiden Black on XEMU, for me the game has been working great, but I encountered someone who says it hasn't been for them, so I'm curious. I did a full playthough on XEMU v.0.7.120 updated through emudeck, and I have the game saved on a SanDisk 1tb Extreme micro SD. In my experience starting the game it'll have slowdown for a little while, but I think that's XEMU caching things. By the time I make it to the room before the first save point my game starts running at full speed no problem.

>>955922 Oh yeah FMV's don't display video, so if you want to skip cutscenes you need a save file that's beat the game at least once.

>>924311 why not just get a controller case you can snap onto the phone you already have?

>>955904 <box64droid on snapdragon 845 running games released within the last decade at less than 15 fps replaced handhelds <latest Iphone running Capcum game ports at 30 fps looking ugly, replaced handheld gaming

>>955904 Speaking of this. Why hasn't any company seriously taken a shot at the phone/gaming handled hybrid. The only two I can think of are the Xperia Play and the Game com and those were decades ago. Modern phones are plenty powerful enough to play most games, the only other challenge is making sure there are buttons that are accessible without getting in the way of portability. Which was accomplished very well by the Xperia. There must be a market too, since "gaming phones" without buttons keep getting released, like the ROG phone and the Razor phone lines.

>>975506 >Why hasn't any company seriously taken a shot at the phone/gaming handled hybrid. For the same reason why you cannot find a phone that actually has a physical keyboard anymore, because these companies are no longer in the business of making a product their customers want. What their business is, and where their money comes from, is spying on their users with the least amount of effort required. Otherwise we would be seeing things like the Xperia Play or even flip-phones making a resurgance outside of budget markets.

>>955904 To be a devils advocate just about everyone has a smartphone or tablet, much more than anyone had the total sales of the previous handhelds cominded. Granted just about everyone treats games on the phone like flash games and refuses to pay money for them.

>>975771 > Granted just about everyone treats games on the phone like flash games and refuses to pay money for them. Why would I pay for games I only play when I'm taking a shit?

>>976368 >Why would I pay for games I only play when I'm taking a shit? You're just proving my devil's advocate point here, you'll always have your phone, you might not bring a psp with you since you don't want to lose something that costs $250. That said people did apparently, at least when smart phones first came out. Then it was a race to the bottom with ad ridden games or f2p shit as the end result. So the rumors go.

>>976373 I found the devil you advocate for. Some say ,that to this day, his spirit still wanders the earth in search of someone with a phone.

>>955922 This post kinda makes me wish that more people here would test out various games on the 6th/7th Gen emulators for the Steam Deck since a lot of the information I found for less popular games on this list were probably done on older versions of the emulators (especially the PS2 since PCSX2 had a major update recently) or didn't do a good job at describing the issues: https://brantje.github.io/emudeck-compatibility-list/

>>976373 My phone costs double that, I'd rather hold some ambernic or retroid handheld if someone does a snatch and grab.

>>975526 >flip-phones making a resurgance In a way, they are.

>>976373 >PSP >$250 Wat.

The Deck is currently on sale for $296 https://store.steampowered.com/steamdeck I think this is the cheapest it's ever been if anybody wants to pick one up. It goes on through to the 26th.

>>1013210 >Only old model >No new models on sale Bullshit, as it reads in the description they're trying to offload these versions lmao.

>>1013210 Is that Little Big Planet on the right screen? Playstation has failed so hard that their first party games are being used to advertise other companies' hardware. They've gone full Sega.

>>1013286 You're right, it is! More specifically it's the Sackboy game.

>>1013289 Sackboy was a rare good game only for PS before publication on Windows in 2022. Astro Bot's the new Sackboy now.

Now that the dust has settled, deck and handhelds have established themselves as genuine contenders of an actual, worth-buying console, the nignogs who were screeching "who is the audience valvedrones lmao" have quietly changed their minds, AMD Z2 is being announced and SteamOS is set to be released for other systems as well. The question is what's next? How will handhelds proliferate into mainstream spaces more?

>>1013580 >Now that the dust has settled I can already tell this post is going to be filled with faggotry. >deck and handhelds have established themselves as genuine contenders of an actual, worth-buying console In what universe? The Deck likely hasn't sold more than 2-3 million by this point, which is beyond baby numbers for a console. >the nignogs who were screeching "who is the audience valvedrones lmao" have quietly changed their minds, Not really, its just that people stopped giving a fuck. After the first 2 threads, they turned to being as slow as molasses, which is really fucking sad for a new gaming device that was supposed to be the next big thing. This thread itself is over a year and 3 months old and has less than 200 replies. >AMD Z2 is being announced and SteamOS is set to be released for other systems as well. What relevance does this have with anything? >How will handhelds proliferate into mainstream spaces more? If by handhelds you mean handheld PCs, they have to do it in the first place.

What upcoming handhelds should I keep in mind if I buy in 2025 with a budget of $1500? Any news sites cover this?

>>1015270 >$1500 You can buy almost any of them, literally just wait for whatever looks the best to you

>>1015270 If you plan on using it out and about, I'd suggest the deck solely for its suspend feature. As far as I am aware, Windows handhelds do not have the ability to just tap the power button and properly suspend like actual handheld consoles.

>>1013585 >The Deck likely hasn't sold more than 2-3 million by this point, which is beyond baby numbers for a console. We do not know how much it really sold because valve did not release numbers. All they said was that it exceeded expectation and we can only speculate. Omdia and other market research orgs' estimates put deck as exceeding the 3 million sales mark sometime in 2023. By now it's probably at 4 to 5 millions range if not inching towards 6. It's reaching about 10% of PS5 sales. All we really know is that deck sold well enough to stay in topsellers list on steam since the release, for valve to make an OLED version and to continue the push for the deck. Many new releases bother to optimize for deck, and that's another sign of its popularity. >Not really, its just that people stopped giving a fuck. After the first 2 threads, they turned to being as slow as molasses, which is really fucking sad for a new gaming device that was supposed to be the next big thing. This thread itself is over a year and 3 months old and has less than 200 replies. Most of these handhelds are portable PCs. A lot of console threads are driven by discussions about exclusives and what console manufacturers' decisions or press releases. And to a lesser extent things like complaints, troubleshooting and hardware modding. New handhelds do not have exclusives. Valve is tight lipped and there's been a slowdown with other manufacturers' announcements lately now that a bunch of deck competitors are out already. Besides that, as popular as handhelds got again, they a are niche devices in the end. More so now than in the past, since kids these days play games on their phones or use nintendo switch.

>>1017235 >>1013585 Omdia's report estimated the lifetime sales count for Valve's Steam Deck would reach 3.47 million as 2023 ends. Steam Deck came out February 25, 2022. 2023 ended January 1, 2024. So 3.47 million sales estimated in 675 days. We're September 22, 2024. January 1, 2024 to September 22, 2024 is 265 days. 265/675's 0.39259 with repeat 259. 0.39259x3.47 is 1.362296 (296 repeats) plus 3.47 is 4.832296 (296 repeats), 4,832,296 sales at a constant rate. But the rate's changed as now Steam Deck actually has many competitors. I'd guess it's nearer 4 than 5 million.

>>1015270 When in 2025? Handheld market's changing fast, better you buy later if later's far.

>>1015270 Too many rumors of the next iteration for all of them. Already got a Steam Dork for cheap. Aiming for the Legion if and when the price will go down.

Is buying a steam dick even a good idea?

>>1017356 Better idea than buying a Switch. Problem is, the steamdeck is underpowered. I would personally wait a generation or 2.

For buying handhelds Deck is a bad idea when better alternatives are out and Switch is a bad idea when the better Switch 2's around the corner. >>1017343's Legion is a good idea.

>>1017364 What are the better Deck alternatives?

>>1017366 Wait a year and get a Deck 2

>>1017373 This is the same company that's still selling a 1440x1600 resolution HMD for $1,000. I don't think obsolescence is an incentive for them to compete.

>>1017356 SD remains the best device for the price. SteamOS is very buggy with third party plugins.

>>1017356 Like the others have said, I agree the best move is to either wait for gen 2, or wait for the OLED models to go on sale, which will probably coincide with the release of the gen 2s as they try to get rid of old stock

>>1017358 >>1017478 >>1017488 I wont have the cash for it until next year so maybe if the next model is decent if it's more of the same eh. As long as it's the same price whatever.

>>1017478 Magic 8 Balls are electronic now? Surely this can't be cheaper to make than the old version. Why even make this change?

>>1017815 Probably just some guy's Arduino project.

>>1017931 Arduino projects are great, I used to follow Arduino tutorials on Instructables.

>>1018031 nerd

>>>/v/1020968 Imagine how the Playstation Portal would fare in 2015. That hunk of shit is selling units apparently.

>>1021060 The PS Portal has only sold around four hundred thousand units. It's a very niche product though, but reportedly doing better than Sony predicted. Not really fair to compare it against the Deck, which is an actual system and has sold roughly ten times more.

>>1021060 Well, Vita had remote play for PS4, right?

>>1021199 Yeah, I liked that feature. But the Vita also had actual games for it. That's a pretty major factor. If it was purely Remote Play, that would suck. PSP also had Remote Play with PS3, but it only worked for a few PS3 games. It did work for PS1 games, though. So I could put PS1 games in my PS3 and then play them on my PSP over the internet. The lag was terrible but it worked for turn based games. Also sometimes I just used it to play games in another room, or handheld while I watched stuff on TV. I remember originally they advertised that Remote Play would allow for different things on the PSP screen, like the PSP could be the rear view mirror in a racing game. That was a cool idea, but I wonder how many games actually did that. The only one I personally know of is Sly 4, which allowed you to use the Vita as basically a set of goggles which would make it easier to find Clue Bottles. It was extremely useful (in fact, arguably made the game too easy), but extremely cumbersome, because for some reason you couldn't use the Vita as the actual controller. It was only a screen, and you still needed the PS3 controller. So basically you had to either put the controller down and pick up the Vita every five seconds, or get used to awkwardly holding the Vita and the controller at the same time. I sort of got used to that, with the Vita on top of the controller, above the L and R buttons, but it certainly seemed like it was more cumbersome than it needed to be. Almost like it was hampered on purpose, because it would have been so easy to just let the Vita be the controller. The only other sort of cool link like that I remember, but not quite relating to the PS Portal, was Resistance 2 and Resistance Retribution. You could plug your PSP into a PS3 and link up the two games, and this would let you use the DualShock 3 to control the PSP game, which was pretty significant since it was a first person shooter. But playing the PSP with a controller is cumbersome, so basically you'd want to plug the PSP into the TV, which you could do with the right cables, but for some reason I could never get it to display fullscreen (even though it worked fine with UMD movies. Yes, I played UMD movies on my TV, because sometimes I owned a movie on UMD and not on DVD. UMDs got pretty cheap after a while). I had to manually get my TV to stretch the non-anamorphic image both horizontally and vertically so that it wouldn't have borders on all sides. It didn't look perfect, and it was way harder than it should have been, but it got the job done. Apparently it also changes the difficulty and adds more enemies and stuff, as well as a bunch of secrets. I wouldn't know because it's the only way I played the game. I think I recall Resistance 2 gets some bonus stuff, too, but nothing like letting use use the PSP as a second screen. I think it just unlocks some basic unlockables or something. I tried looking it up just now and for some reason couldn't find anything. I guess nobody cares. Even the Resistance Wiki doesn't talk about the cool features on the PSP game, and those are very significant, even if cumbersome.

>>1017478 >SteamOS is very buggy with third party plugins. In my experience this isn't the case unless you install a shit ton of plugins and/or stay on the beta steam client releases instead of stable.

>>1021073 I'm just wondering how many would have bought a Portal with PS4 controllers sticking out instead. >it's not really fair Sony gimped this $200 device from its inception with a lack of bluetooth support and no internet browser. I understood what you meant, but I wanted to remind you that the PP sucks by design. >>1021199 The PS app for mobile devices existed at the time. Having a controller with a clip for your phone used to and still works today.

>>837183 Ryujinx is dead

>>1021404 Won't others contribute without gdkchan?

>>1021404 Nope.

>>1021407 No one knows, the story is actively being developed.

>>1023959 Retro Game Corps is correct RP5 is the best but some ranks are retarded. Why's GB a B on 6 that run 99% of GB full speed?

>>1024018 I wager it's screen aspect ratio and/or really bad integer scaling, like cropping and having black bars on all 4 sides.

>>1024028 I wager this too, still stupid rating bigger screens with more bars under smaller screens with less bars by 2 tiers

>>1024184 I think that largest 5.5" display becomes a 3.8" diagonal when it's a square, compared to the 4" diagonal already square, so none are technically larger for GB content. It does say it's subjective and integer scaling might make any of them better or worse depending on how well they fit vertically, so it might not be far off for anyone seriously autistic about GB.

Ayaneo announced the Ayaneo 3. https://www.ayaneo.com/article/859 7" LCD or OLED HDR, AMD Ryzen AI 9 HX 370 or 7 8840U. RAM and storage haven't been released but the Ayaneo 2 had 16GB or 32GB of RAM and 512GB, 1TB, or 2TB of storage.

More chink shit: https://videocardz.com/newz/evangelion-themed-ryzen-hx-370-gaming-handheld-and-radeon-rx-7800m-xt-egpu-announced Are any of these handhelds good? My gut feeling is to wait for the next gen Steamdeck.

>>1038078 From my sbc experience you'll probably want the name brand thing over the clones, unless you like tinkering more than using the thing. Someone in the predictions thread said steam deck will be a ways off because valve doesn't want to burn deck purchasers.

Ha-fLife and Steam Deck developer Greg Coomer retires affer 27 years.

Have some Steam Controller and Index 2 leaks >>1040559 RIP to the coomer.

Some dude at gamestop told me to forget about the steam deck and look into getting a Rog Ally, is he right? Is the Asus Handheld better than the Valve Handheld?

>>1043935 Deck is better value at like $400 instead of $1k, also asus handhelds have had issues with sd cards or something breaking. If you really want to play gAAAy get the ally for more performance.

>>1043935 >>1043938 old ally has the sd slot right next to the exhaust, it'll melt your fucking sd cards. Bigger issue is they absolutely will turbo-fuck you if you try to send it in on warranty. Bright side, the CPU is absurdly powerful so you can finally host a modded minecraft server without it imploding. Either get a steen deck or a proper laptop. ASUS can and will fuck people in the ass gladly and charge you for it. https://yewtu.be/watch?v=I3DwhTc7Z4o

>>1043935 Yes, he is right. Hardware's better and Windows is better for gaming. However you're asking the most resounding Deck echochamber online, research yourself.

>>1043941 Phil Spencer, did you write this post? Windows isn't great for a handheld.

>>1043935 >>1043941 >Hello Valve Marketing Team, so I had an organic interaction with some dude at Gamestop, is he right the Asus Handheld is better than the Valve Handheld? <NO ASUS IS THE DEVIL YOUR SYSTEM WILL LITERALLY MELT IT'S MELTING IT'S MELLLLTTTIINNNGGGG AHHHHHHHHHH

Valve made it official in August they were adding SteamOS support for Ally, it's not a rival in a console war to them because all roads lead to Steam.

>>1043947 Steamdecks follow the printer/ink model anyways. People are gonna want Steamdecks regardless of what asus does. And no matter what asus does, a purchaser of either the steamdeck or ally will still end up buying games on Steam. Valve ""started"" (more like popularized?) a market that, while not directly correlating to increased steam purchases, definitely massively influences them positively the more consumers of it there is. They did something similar with VR models and then as silicon valley CEOs do, Faceberg fucked it up by releasing their own walled garden that effectively stifled anything bigger than a mobile game. VR as an industry probably would have been way healthier had Faceberg not done that. Ironically making the quest systems dead because of their own greedy actions. They might've added steam support though. Useless brick if they didn't.

>>1043941 >>1043944 u good?

>>1043962 >Valve ""started"" (more like popularized?) a market that, while not directly correlating to increased steam purchases, definitely massively influences them positively the more consumers of it there is. You could argue it was really GPD Win that 'popularized' UMPCs, before that they were an experimental device category in the 2000s (before the technology was really there for them to work well) that died off as phones got better. The success of GPD Win gave way to a bunch of other successful UMPCs, and that niche little market these guys built is what allowed much more mainstream products to exist. Though you might be right Volvo did bring them to casuals who never heard of these devices, GPD didn't exactly have a platform with 200,000,000 users to advertise to.

>>1043935 Unless you wanna play a windows only game, or only play games that are controller-input driven, and you really want better graphical performance at the cost of battery life, buy a LCD steam deck. Its much more versatile and you don't have to fight windows 11 to play games. Also these >>1043940>>1043938 are true for older stocks, they've (hopefully) solved them in newer lots.

>>1043941 >>1043944

I don't know how Asus can stay in anyone's good graces after what happened this year alone. I remember the confusion around Asus selling cheaper and lower specced Ally's that ran like ass. Even now, at the price point of an Ally X, the GPD Win devices are better in every single way.

>>1043944 >strawman someone's post with allcaps and offer nothing to refute it Hello, pendejo, I see this is your first time posting, please remember to follow proper netiquette to ensure that you do not look like a retard. Gracias!

>>1044004 No one suggest alternatives, so people will keep buying ASUS products without anyone else to support.

>>1043974 Someone elsewhere said an ally revision still had the same SD card issue. Dunno but their warranty was garbage for the first ally, wait and see.

Steam is shitty spyware, Valve's by far the scummiest company in the gaming business, and Gay Jewell's the biggest parasite in that business, yet /v/ shills for this cocksucking predator like Jesus Christ. If you're cuckolded so bad you use Steam, you have gaming disorder, a mental health condition that affects between 1.7% and 10% of the U.S. population, which the WHO and DSM-5 characterize by continued or escalated gaming despite negative consequences. You're either too retarded to evaluate these negative consequences, too pathetic a cuckold to care, or both. Steam has a privacy policy that details that it collects your name, address, credit card number(s), e-mail, age, IP address, device unique ID, chat logs, forum posts, voice chat recordings, and hardware enumeration. Steam confirms it shares this information with third parties. Steam knows your name, age, where you live, your banking information, and email and shares this with other companies. They can use your IP address to track where you are to the nearest county and can use your device unique ID provided by the fingerprinting spyware inside Steam to track yopur usage habits across devices that you use. Steam also records all of your communications with others through its social networking and instant messaging services, such as all chat logs, voice conversations, and forum posts, and can share this with third parties as well. Steam has a VAC system that records your internet history and uploads it to an official Valve server. Valve has the ability to spy on a user's internet history. The spyware feature is programmed into Valve's software and the internet history is processed by Valve's servers. Steam can't be built from an available copy of the source code. Steam records and publicly broadcasts your program usage habits for all programs launched through Steam's program launching service. This spyware feature is mandatory and has no opt-out. Steam also uses its social network features such as the user profile and friends list to broadcast a user's program usage habits publicly. This spyware feature can be partially disabled by setting your profile to private, but it cannot be opted-out of if you are using the "friends" social networking feature. Steam has the spyware feature which allows you to "opt-in" to certain features of the Steam service by providing Steam your telephone number. This is done through a pop-up that cannot be turned off. This spyware feature is encouraged by Steam and Steam locks out certain features and privileges to users who want to protect their privacy- for example, access to the Steam store which is an online marketplace run by Valve requires you to give your phone number. So it is impossible to use all features of the software without giving up this kind of information. Steam phones home and requires an internet connection. Steam will phone home whenever the Steam client is opened or a program is launched through Steam. This spyware feature is mandatory and cannot be turnedoff. Steam provides an offline mode which is not an opt-out because users must still connect to Steam servers every 30 days or so. Steam contains a mandatory self-updater and doesn't work without an internet connection. It updates itself without user verification. This is not an opt-out feature because eventually Steam will stop working until it is updated. Self-updating software can be used to install spyware features or force users to agree to new agreements that force them to explicitly give up more information to continue using the spyware program. I pirate games I transfer by USB to a device disconnected from the internet because I'm not a pathetic, retarded, gaming disordered cuckold paying Gay Jewell to fuck me up my ass.

>>1044465 take your meds already

>>1044465 I hate Valve but they aren't the scummiest, they're just really shitty.

>>1044465 >this copypasta back to 4chan

Man I really want someone to make one of these fuckers the size of a DS lite.

>>1047742 Easy way to make 100% of text in every game completely illegible.

>>1047742 It's difficult to make them that small and still able to play anything. At a certain point you can't fit everything in, and even if you could the terminals would render it unusable. There are devices like the AYN Odin, but they're not much cheaper than the Deck and can really only emulate.

>>1047749 >>1047753 Perhaps that's an indication that the portable market is something completely seperate from PC/console market. Or that developers actually need to improve their UI designs so that it better fits on smaller screens.

>>1047755 Just like film makers should fill the screen with a person's face so phone users can see their expression, yes!

>>1047742 Are the GPD Win devices too big for you? Personally, I want these devices to be bigger because I got big meaty hands and poor eye sight.

>>1047756 >film makers should fill the screen with a person's face so phone users can see their expression What "details" you are really missing considering how much advertising and praise there was about the PSP and the 5th gen iPod being capable of playing entire movies and videos on screens that were 2"-4" in size with a max resolution of 720x480p? This is specifically for the PSP movies files that were cropped at and released in a special 3:2 aspect ratio just for their UMD release. However despite this being the file specifications, the PSP screen itself outputs at a resolution of 480x272. And the iPod's resolution was 320x240. <I feel like second and third pic has become more of a warning than a joke as time has gone on.

>>1047770 >PSP screen is actually 3 x 1.7 Then how exactly does it render a 3 x 2 file? If you shrink down 3x2 to fit in there, you could have black borders on the left and right where it doesn't stretch all the way just to fit the horizontal within 1.7. If you crop it to fit, then the extreme top and bottoms of the screen are going to be missing x0.15 of their output each. If you compress to fit the screen, then you'll have the circus mirrors that make everything look shorter and fatter to fit the x2 in there. I can't necessarily tell how the incredibles is supposed to look to compare but I want to know which methods they used to deal with the difference

>>1047807 Looking at the youtube demonstrations makes it seem like they are stripping even more off the top and bottom of the inage to make the film 21:9 or something

>>1047770 The difference is those films didn't have their entire film crew shooting for it, or zoomers either really. Instead of an over-the-shoulder shot with body language you instead have cuts back and forth like you're looking between two oblivion npcs. A handful of directors design for imax as a fuck you and give a messy audio master for streaming and dvd releases.

>>1047770 >>1047909 >>1047742 >>1047749 >>1047753 That would be difficulty making existing games with tiny UI difficult to see, you'll have to port the game with better readability and lower textures. Like nintendo and sony used to do, handover porting to another studio. On a technical level, building a pocketable x86 handheld to output, say 480p is difficult, expensive, but possible. You'll need a custom SoC like valve did, that sips about 5-8W max power, a tiny ass heatsink and fan, about 12gb of shared ddr5 ram, a smaller compact battery. But most importantly, no touchpads or back grip buttons. Going ARM would be best option but then say goodbye to most native pc games. Only Sony and MS are capable of that. Nintendo "could" go AMD for switch 2 since nvidia is all about AI these days

MSI launched its newest gaming handhelds, the Claw 8 AI+ and Claw 7 AI+, powered by Intel Lunar Lake. They succeed the Claw 7 which featured Meteor Lake. They're going to use the same Intel Core Ultra 7 258V processor, featuring the Intel Arc 140V graphics and an 8-core coniguration with 4 performance and 4 power-efficient cores clocked at 2.2/4.8 GHz and 2.2/3.7 GHz. 8 and 7 inch IPS displays, 1920x1200p, 120Hz. 7 has a battery life of 54.5Whr, 8 has 80Whr like the ROG Ally X. Both bring 32GB of LPDDR5X memory at 8533 MT/s and up to 1 TB of PCI-E 4.0 M.2 storage capacity.

>>1047933 A few years ago when the ally came out or so, nvidia was frustrated their only representation in handhelds was the dogshit switch performance, so they might just sell chips with lower margins to nintendo.

>>1047951 Those were only rumors, although Nvidia might want get back into the ARM market considering the AI stuff.

>>1047951 What? Did they forget about Nvidia Shield? >>1047933 >Nintendo "could" go AMD for switch 2 since nvidia is all about AI these days They could, but that could also mean that the Switch 2 will not be 100% backwards compatible with the Switch 1.

>>1048018 President of Nintendo said it will be backwards compatible.

>>1043941 >Windows is better for gaming For handhelds? Nyo. A lack of proper sleep/hibernation for pick up and play makes Windows inferior. You are cucking yourself out of a quintessential handheld experience that is as important as portability. At that point you should honestly consider a laptop instead.

>>1048916 Nyrna works really well for hibernation on Windows and Linux. https://nyrna.merritt.codes/

>>1048918 Really cool. Resuming from hibernation still crashes my games though.

>>1048928 I use Windows and had 2 crashes ever with Nyrna on 2 tests of the same game, just didn't use Nyrna with that game. No crashes with others but might crash more on Linux.

>>1048930 I'm on Windows too. What are your sleep settings?

>>1048943 You're shilling Steam Deck (Linux) in 1017478, against Ally (Windows) in 1044004, and made a fanboy comment against Windows in 1048916, "a lack of proper sleep/hibernation makes Windows inferior for gaming handhelds," but Nyrna works really well for hibernation on Windows. Nyrna's also very unknown, it's not Microsoft Word. I don't think you knew Nyrna existed until I said Nyrna, then pretended you use Nyrna and exaggerated its crashes to fanboy Linux. I had 2 crashes ever with Nyrna on 2 tests of the same game and just didn't use Nyrna with that game. I offered Nyrna to solve hibernation problems, not to argue with an ideological fanboy posting Uno reverse cards, so I'm gone.

>>1048950 What a bizarre post

>>1044457 Hold up. I forgot to shill the SteamDeck today. Just buy a SteamDeck. >>1048950 I 'uno. That seems farfetched and schizo, anon. I own both and Nyrna doesn't fix my problem. Win11 sleep mode on button press just werks, but sometimes it doesn't. And hibernate has crashed every game I tried it with it.

Okay, so assuming the Steam Deck OLED is appealing to me but at the same time don't mind saving up another $200, is the ROG Ally X worth it?

>>1049301 Isn't it obvious? JBSD. >>1049047 No, but seriously consider what (you) want to play and how big (you) want it to be. You'll be holding it up most of the time and neither of these devices have a kickstand. I'm biased towards the GPD Win 4 because it's the only game in town still trying to be a PSP-PC. However, hands down the best "Switch-like" is the SteamDeck. It sucks that regardless of how powerful these devices are they still can't do something the PSP and DS could do. Pause. Get the Ally and you'll see what I'm talking about. Put the Ally to sleep mid-game and leave it in a bag. You'll find it an hour later, hot to the touch, aaaaaaand it's dead.

>>1049047 drink bleach, shit stain

>>1048918 >Nyrna works really well for hibernation on Windows and Linux. https://nyrna.merritt.codes/ Downloaded this and it just works. I don't know how to thank you, so I'm just expressing gratitude.

>>1051817 I wonder if the Ally X fixed those problems, I'm kinda interested in the GPD Win 4 although I'm probably gonna wait for CES before I make the purchase.

>>1049301 valve is planning to release steamos to other vendors, so you can install steamos on ally when they do. Deck also has ergonomics and battery life on smaller games on its side, don't know if ally is worth $200 more, but its christmas anyways.

>>1052115 >I wonder if the Ally X fixed those problems, I'm kinda interested in the GPD Win 4 although I'm probably gonna wait for CES before I make the purchase. Asus listened to feedback and the Rog Ally X fixed most problems of the Rog Ally including heating issues with demanding games. Asus didn't fix pausing, but third party programs do: >>1048918 Compatibility advantages for Rog Ally X exceed just Windows too, Rog Ally X has premium tech so more demanding games run on it.

>>1052122 He said Ally X not Ally. Deck battery is 40 watt hours, Ally X is 80 watt hours

For those curious with my issue; it was that I was trying to play slop. Games with easy anti-cheat do not pause. Nyrna highlights this and I didn't bother to read. So CODs, Elden Ring, and what have you don't pause at all because of anti-cheat. The device will just turn itself back on and the device melting would resume. Worked with Elden Ring just fine on the Steam Deck. Despite it running like dogwater ofc. Oh, wait. Off script. JBSD. >>1051867 Stay upset schizo. >>1052124 I fall into the thought camp that if I'm paying upwards of $800 I should be getting at least a smooth 60 fps on low settings with vaseline filters. Although, it's not Asus's fault that triple AAA devs release unoptimized garbage that requires ray tracing.

>>1052201 >Playing Call of Duty

>>1052336 I also played Marvel Rivals on it too.

>>1052397 do you actually main Peni? I have only ever met a few people who main and masturbate to peni, a lot of people just jerk off to her. who do you main?

>>1052414 He doesn't main anyone because /v/ doesn't actually play games.

>>1052468 Playing IWP right fucking now cum guzzler >>1052397 Play Lobotomy Corporation, it's perfect 4u!

>>1052414 Not that anon but I only play Jeff because nobody plays supports, and Jeff is easy, fun, and incredibly effective at enhancing the team. Rivals is trash, but the girls were cute so I gave it a shot.

>Thunderbolt 5 exists >Thunderbolt 5 eGPU does NOT exist What was the point of a bandwidth increase if you're never gonna use it for the thing that needed the fucking bandwidth increase the most? Hasn't it existed for half a year now? WTF is this shit? Are some faggots holding it back deliberately to keep selling shitty mobile GPUs? Forcing artificial limitations like how Televisions couldn't have DisplayPort. The 80Gbps up/down bandwidth port exists, now actually use the goddamn thing. Only videos I can find about TB5 are soytards plugging docks or SSDs into it.

>>1052564 Thought Rivals of Aether, looked and it's Marvel Rivals, is that some capeshit?

>>1052595 Yes. Overwatch but not designed by fags (chinese publisher) but soy source material (marvel) Usually with chinese games I'm immediately concerned with anti-cheat and monetization, but I don't see any real issues there past the typical cosmetic-only battlepass. (Worked on Linux day 1. If it didn't work the only interaction I'd have with the game then-on would be the peni porn. Cucking linux via anticheat is a pretty great litmus test.) I didn't play Overwatch, as MOBAs give me hives, but I decided to give Marvel a try due to buzz from friends. It's mediocre. Small selection of maps, limited lines from the announcer though surprising cross-character interaction. The funny part is that "mediocre but good character designs/not shit lore" means its probably better than all the other hero shooters on the market. Still deleted it.

>>1052593 pcie 5 exists, but no gpus exceed pcie 4 specs, probably something similar

>>1052397 Wait, marvel rivals doesn't have an anticheat?

i fell for deck memes and regret buying this piece of shit, linux is a tranny OS and there's a bunch of other shitty things steamies and deck shills never talk about with this device. >Memory cards stops working frequently and you have to restart, remove, re insert. >The wifi also frequently breaks, you have to go to the developer mode and change a stupid setting and restart. >Google chrome needs to be reinstalled all the time because it just won't update >Piracy is a pain in the ass, shit like vc redis missing and a bunch of crap due to it being a tranny OS >A bunch of games have shitty proton compatibility where you have to use specific versions instead of plug and play like windows >It's just simply not comfy to use on the bed, despite being a handheld I used it docked all the time for some reason even though I already have a desktop >L1 button breaks because of a shitty fuck up with the measurements and tolerance of the case allowing the push button to angled from a little drop and become to far to be pressed >The battery life is fucking TERRIBLE

>>1052961 >he trusted the 8moe echochamber instead of researching for himself

>>1052961 If you hate Linux that much, you can install Windows on it.

>>1052961 Other than being filtered by piracy, Memory card, wifi issues, L1 button being jammed seem hardware level faults. Claim warranty right away, these must be replaced. But I doubt you paid full for it so you probably got an early unit from ebay/scalper early unit for cheap. You didn't mention fan noise or display quality, the most common ones so are those okay? >It's just simply not comfy to use on the bed, despite being a handheld I used it docked all the time Then these handhelds are simply too large for your hands. Ally and Ayn odin are similar too. GPD mini is the only "smaller" than steamdeck device. >shit like vc redis missing and a bunch of crap As for pirated games, you'll have to install vcredist, just like you'd for windows. If you never had to do that in windows, you probably kept it auto-updated win11. There's even a lutris plugin now for that for ease. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8q2HuokqJo4 >google chrome, steamies and tranny os I genuinely recommend you to keep to desktop or windows devices then and be safe environment. Don't dual boot windows on it you'll brick it.

>>1052961 There were plenty of warnings, you chose to ignore them and believe marketing hype by retards and Mark.