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Assassin’s Creed Shadows’ Lead Producer Claims “We Are Trying To Create A Game That Is As Authentic As Possible” Anonymous 08/13/2024 (Tue) 22:05:08 Id: a1bc2e No. 1001087
>"We are trying to create a game that is as authentic as possible. It's something we take pride in," Onnée tells us. "And that is also a very long process. When we build a Japanese house from feudal Japan, it is very different from, say, a French medieval house or an English one. >"It's not feudal Japan, obviously, but it is good to go on site, because it is only then that we realise it is very different to what we think it is," Onnée explains. "It is very interesting, because when the team went there, one of the things that jumped out was the forests and how they are. We had made some forests based on the Greece landscape [for Odyssey], but when we went, we noticed it was very different to what we'd done, and we had to change it. You don't necessarily find that stuff out when doing historical research. Seems like Ubisoft is sticking to their lies, and are much more interested in trees than making accurate Japanese architecture and cities. https://archive.is/pp0aj https://archive.is/hsAbj
I honestly hope Shadows does so poorly Ubisoft goes into administration. It's a long shot but they deserve it.
For any anons not in the know, this game is getting extraordinarily negative reactions in Japan. Not even because the protag is black, but because Ubisoft keeps marketing the game as accurate. That last part is really what bugs them.
>>1001087 >Seems like Ubisoft is sticking to their lies Of course they are. Until someone slaps the propagandists/ubishit execs hard enough, this is going to be their default move. They are not going to change willingly. >>1001090 >this game is getting extraordinarily negative reactions in Japan Good. The more fags who get their eyes opened to how cancerous progressive devs are the better off everything will be.
>>1001090 Reminds me of Battlefield 1 and V Normalfags are so fucking retarded.
>>1001087 Translation: we are another communist propaganda machine.
I remember when one of the diversity hires they brought on to play test came on here and took a huge shit on Ubisoft.
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>>1001087 As someone pointed out in the GG thread, looking at the projects this producer has worked on makes you wonder how he got to be in this important position. https://www.mobygames.com/person/763798/karl-onnee/ https://www.imdb.com/name/nm4276106/ Besides another Assassins' Creed game, everything is either a port or something that wasn't very popular. >>1001090 True. It's also important to note that the frustration is not just from small online communities in Japan. People are talking about it across the internet, a bit on television news, and it has even been brought up to Japanese politicians.
>>1001089 Have they made ANY game in the past few years that wasn't a huge disappointment? >Seas of Thieves <Dead >Assassins Creed: Mirage <regarded as mediocre despite being billed as a 'return to the franchise roots™' >Farcry 6 <a somewhat big hit but normalfags hate it >XD <xDDDDD >Star Wars Outlaws <Hasn't released yet but even now noone gives a shit because Space Marines 2 stole all the marketing lmao
>>1001273 Nah, sea of thieves isn't dead, i'll call it "Niche" or something like that
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>>1001274 Fuck me i wasn't referring to Sea of Thieves my bad, Ubi didnt even make that game I was referring to the OTHER pirate game that made me mix up with Sea of Thieves THAT IS HOW FORGETTABLE IT WAS
>>1001273 I think Ubisoft has only existed over the past decade to zucc Canadian tax dollars with bad games.
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>>1001276 its a quadruple A game though anon.
>>1001301 >they were planning a "female-driven" TV adaptation 5 years before the game came out Now that's quadruple A.
>>1001301 Still makes me laugh that the game they thought was worth 70+ dollars is now priced at around $10 when I see it at stores.
>>1001301 >Released february 2024 >reportedly cost $200 million in its decade-long development Its a shame this companies keep afloat
>>1001276 >I was referring to the OTHER pirate game that made me mix up with Sea of Thieves >THAT IS HOW FORGETTABLE IT WAS Wait, there was ANOTHER Game about pirates like Sea Of Thieves? >>1001301 >Skull and bones Holy, i thought that Game was some indie shit akin to "Salt And Sanctuary", or something like that <70 dollarydoos for a live service shit with battlepass a d whatnot Lmao >>1001314 >200m dollarydoos And that fucking game sucks and feels like some indie early access shit
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>>1001308 KikeKriple K
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>>1001314 Blame the Canadian Government for Ubishit not having to deal with the consequences of their flops.
>>1001311 >>1001315 games these days arent even worth a pirate. No way in hell am i wasting my hard drive space and time to download any of this. I shit you not, They would literally have to pay me $70 if they want the privilege of me downloading it.
>>1001319 >>1001314 Actually, it was the Singaporean government that kept Skull & Bones alive for a decade.
>>1001349 https://archive.is/kmoA2 >Ubisoft Singapore (led development on the pirate Skull & Bones and co-developed Assassin’s Creed Valhalla and Immortals: Fenyx Rising), was created in 2008 >In exchange for setting up on the island city state and hiring local talent, Singapore’s government would provide the French company with generous subsidies >Years later, Ubisoft soaked up the government subsidies while not paying local junior developers enough to move out of their parents’ homes >In addition to the claims of racial pay disparity, three former developers claimed that senior managers at the studio are paid significantly more than their counterparts overseas at studios like Massive or Ubisoft Montreal
>>1001314 >$200 million >decade-long development Pathetic, they ought to learn from real Game development developers.
>>1001405 Can someone remind me when Scam Citizen was originally supposed to come out?
>>1001410 2 more years
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>>1001087 "“We Are Trying To Create A Game That Is As Authentic As Possible” is some 1984 Minitrue shit.
>>1010607 whats jap nigger population at rn?
>>1010770 Under one half of one percent
>>1010770 >>1010778 several thousand, so probably not even one one-hundredth of a percent
>>1010797 >Brazil It all makes sense now.
>>1010797 In 2030 Japan will be the last refuge untainted by niggers.
>>1010813 Brazilian here, we have some very weird history with japan, go watch a video about it. We actually have the biggest japanese population outside of japan, we have sister cities between the two countries and it's kinda normal do see japanese festivals in those cities.
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>>1010813 >>1010845 >>1010797 Japan is rightful Moortuguese clay t.Alberto Barbosa
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>>1010908 JAPANESE BUNDA
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>>1010920 GIBS ME DAT

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>Ubishit got caught botting their latest AssCreed video
>>1014440 God that feels so good When it happens to EA, I will fucking jack off to their quarterly report and drink my body weight in alcohol.
>>1014440 >name + number in username is a bot indicator >Youtube a number to my account in the past <tfw you're a bot
>>1014440 Now the balding retard believes botting is real! But Asmonmald! Maybe these bots were from a third party! You fucking idiot.
>>1014445 Go away Ubisoft intern
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>>1010821 There's many foreigners that live in Japan already. The fuck you on about?
>>1014452 >>1014453 >Ignorant reactionary retards living under a rock forgot or didn't know their flipflopping favorite e-celeb dismissed a data analyst evidence of mass botting pushes during marketing campaigns >If I recall correctly, he said, “I wish this guy would stop doing this,” then called me stupid and tried to disprove me by looking at comments on his YouTube videos, as if that were equivalent. I was publicly dismissed without any research being done on the matter. https://archive.is/ILCyS You retards need to suck his dick harder.
>>1014478 What does Asmongoloid have to do with them botting? He just reacts to shit that already is out in the open, no shit he's a flip-flopping retard, how does that change the betting situation?
>>1014479 Botting*
>>1014479 >Botting is only real if an e-celeb degenerate who lost all his teeth and lives worse than NEET anons says it's real! >But what does a hypocritical react streamer retard who once said there was no evidence of botting and is now doing a 180, with his 1000% verified evidence! Gee, pointing out hypocrisy by a balding faggot clout-chaser who quickly dismissed evidence of botting really brings out e-celeb dicksuckers out here. But let's use his words back against him. >Can you confirm these bots were used and paid by Ubisoft instead of a third party? >This is stupid, you should quit doing this man. >Yeah, skipping these graphs. Credible e-celeb, guys.
>>1014481 I think you're just an autist who cares too much about this faggot existing. Nothing in what I said could be interpreted as Asmongoloid dicksucking and in fact agrees with your point and acknowledges his stupidity. Maybe you should take some time away from the keyboard and realize this isn't the e-celeb thread.
>>1014481 They aren't dick sucking as much as asking why you take him seriously in the first place and why you take such umbrage at him being inconsistent.
>>1014481 yeah that's cool and all, but do you think AC: shadows will be a pile of shit when it comes out?
>>1014484 >do you think AC: shadows will be a pile of shit when it comes out? The real question's will it be a pile of shit or a mountain of shit?
>>1014558 a mountainous pile of shit
>>1014559 Jurassic Park was cool but Hollywood milked it dry until it contracted sequelitis.
>ask about historical accuracy >answer is about paying respect to indigenous culture It's like being back at university.
>>1014559 It's literally a giant pile of shit.
>>1014481 The point was that ubisoft was botting, nobody gives a shit about the disgusting ginger nigger or his e-celeb drama.
Something is going on. Ubisoy cancelled all AC:S previews: https://x.com/_Tom_Henderson_/status/1838622294278623300 They also cancelled their appearance at Tokyo Game Show 2024: https://x.com/UBISOFT_JAPAN/status/1838504341289783532 I don't know what they are trying to do, but they drove themselves into a corner, because if they delay the game and change the protagonist they'll get crucified by the soy press.
>>1018285 Probably more gaslighting the Japs into hating the game less. Changing the protag is not gonna happen because the game is a propaganda piece.
>>1018285 >they'll get crucified by the soy press Maybe if you're referring to MSM outlets if they consider it worth reporting on, but they can just bribe out the gaming press.
>>1018287 I saw a quote from the fucking Verge displayed proudly on the Ship of Harkinian Zelda 64 pc port website if you wanna talk about MSM outlets.
>>1018285 My guess is that they're just lying low after making a nendroid type thing with some broken shrine gate that's supposedly a reference to a gate that was broken by the nuke that hit Nagasaki, and the Japanese are fucking furious with them again.
>>1018285 >Something is going on. Yes. Get woke, go broke.
>>1018293 Who the fuck is going woke though?
>>1018299 Are you questioning luciano's use of "going" or of the premise entirely?
>>1018299 Ubisoft got sjw and retarded.
>>1018526 Ubisoft has been sjw and retarded forever. Rayman Legends was their last good game and Rayman Legends was over 10 years ago.
>>1018560 Rayman Legends was the last game they made that wasn't just a scam for money.
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It's happening.
>>1018698 >Ubisoft is bleeding and needs money >they delay it past the Christmas season to a far more heavily contested February 2025 with lots of releases, of similar and different genres November is mostly just minor games of unrelated genres and budgets while I doubt Ubisoft can even fix anything wrong with the game in 3 months. It feels like they are panicking and unsure what to do, so they do this in hopes the current negative reception will be forgotten in 3 months or that they think of a way to calm the community down while changing little to nothing.
>>1018698 This won't save them the blood is already in the water.
>>1018698 >red background\ >that font My eyes
>>1018698 >just noticed they refunded preorders What the fuck? This is going to hurt them monetarily, some people won't buy it again, it will raise suspicion about the absolute state of the game. Are the pre-orders so bad that Ubisoft is trying to hide it from the investors and that's why they delay the release, so they can say "oh no pre-orders numbers yet dear investors, we refunded them all to show our honesty"? I don't see any other explanation.
>>1018698 I'm so fucking confused, I thought this dogshit was already out and the new AssCreed was the one about the pajeet?
>>1018699 >they do this in hopes the current negative reception will be forgotten in 3 months That's my guess, they want to let the US elections pass and things to calm down and see if everyone forgets by February. Another possibility after seeing the jank in the trailers is that the diversity hires are so incompetent the game is legit broken and they need to outsource to fix it up, like it allegedly happened with Concord.
Oh, I just realized, February is black history month. Could their plan really be that fucking retarded?
>>1018698 Everybody was expecting this, but delaying it into the same year as Ghost of Yotei is not doing the game any favors. Tell me Ubisoft's stock price in an hour.
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>>1018710 Yeah, I'm putting it on intentional sabotage.
>>1018710 I think the most likely is the pre-orders are so pathetic that if the investors saw them and the game released as-is now, they'd get pissed off and spell complete doom and possible end for Ubisoft, so they try to delay that in hopes they find a solution. Refunds make no sense otherwise, if the preorders were satisfactory for Ubisoft they wouldn't have returned them. Every other refund situation of similar magnitude I can think of happened in this situation. >Pharaoh Total War flopped, so CA decreased price, refunded the difference to everyone, cancelled the season pass with its DLCs and made future DLCs free >Concord flopped hard, so to avoid paying for servers and possible repercussions, Sony just refunded everyone Anyway, what I'm certain of right now is that Asscreed Shadows is doing far worse than I thought it'd do, even with all the controversy. It's all pretty damn awesome.
>>1018285 They probably know they cant change it outright so what they might be doing is stretching development and release out as long as they can and then cancel it after no one cares or remembers.
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>>1018698 How much did they invest in this new AC? I want to laugh.
>>1018698 I wish ubishit would just flush already instead of clogging the drain.
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The top replies to the announcement.
>>1018797 >Kangmin Lee Even the gooks are joining in? Wish the kpop fags would voice themselves would be hilarious since their fans on suicide watch "oh my kpop singer hate niggers"
>>1018798 seeing*
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>>1018710 >Could their plan really be that fucking retarded? >Ooga Booga, where da kunoichi at? Yes, their plan is that retarded. There's a good chance they might actually just be pushing it off to the next fiscal year to get some breathing room so that they only have to report one massive company crushing flop to their shareholders. The Black History Month release date is just to assuage the journalists and like 5 [[current year]] customers to get them to shut up - because if they complain or question it's Feb delayed release, that might make them racist.
>>1018698 AHAHAHAHAH FUCK Ubisoft
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Anons Ubikike gave clothes and a sword riddled with the Oda family crest, and this is an issue because the Oda clan is still around. Ubisoft has to ask them express permission to use it, and the retards didn't.
>>1018865 They also modeled and showed off a certain Buddhist religious site being a part of a side quest, one that irl explicitly denies every request to be portrayed in media, which of course ubikike decided to ignore.
Sorry for phone posting but i thought you'd like to know that investors are pissed https://www.pushsquare.com/news/2024/09/ubisoft-board-orders-internal-investigation-and-review-into-companys-financial-woes Will archive and screenshot when i get home
>>1018771 Enough to fund a sequel to Jack and Jill
>>1018875 Which site?
>>1018885 Cheers anon. Ubisoft Board Orders Internal Investigation and Review into Company's Financial Woes
>>1018698 I find it funny how after the initial wave of initial mistakes with the chinese-style pagoda and the One Piece sword and and stuff, they couldn't just fucking STOP FUCKING UP the random Japanese inconsistencies and at the same time they kept going "NO WE ARE SUPER AUTHENTIC!!!" If they just said "yeah we just want to make a retarted fiction story" they'd have the plausible deniability. But they kept doubling down.
>>1018898 They're fucked anyway. This "investigation" will most likely be conducted by brainrot pozcucks who will try their hardest to deny the poz has anything to do with their troubles. Even if the investigation miraculously pointed to all the parasitic DEI goblins and leftoid dipshits with pronouns in their bio, France's turbocucked laws forbid them from firing nogs and women.
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Leaked internal memo: https://archive.is/IjIoM >we decided to delay Assassin’s Creed Shadows to February 14, 2025. The game is already playable and of high quality, and has all the features the team wanted to integrate into this ambitious experience. This unusual decision at such an advanced stage is motivated by our desire to offer an optimal experience from launch on all platforms and various PC configurations, and to remove the small frictions we typically used to address in post-launch title updates. We will also use the extra time to complement the experience with a few high-impact secondary quests that will bring even more memorable. >Additionally, as a result of listening to player feedback on other topics, our new releases, starting with Assassin’s Creed Shadows, will again be available on Steam on launch day, in addition to being available on first parties’, Epic’s and Ubisoft’s stores. Also, we are currently rethinking our Season Pass model for our upcoming games. For Assassin’s Creed Shadows, all players will have access to the game at the same time, and those who have pre-ordered the game will get the first expansion for free. >Lastly, I’d like to address the recent polarized coverage around our creative choices. We are an entertainment company. As such, our objective is not to endorse any specific agenda.
>>1018996 >We are an entertainment company. As such, our objective is not to endorse any specific agenda. THE FUCKING AUDACITY OF THESE NIGGERS Ubisoft of all places saying this shit is fucking comical and disgusting. Nobody with a brain can see this and not think there wasn't a fucking agenda, unbelievable.
>>1018998 The agenda is that they supposedly want money.
>>1018996 >As such, our objective is not to endorse any specific agenda. Yet that is precisely what you do. Curious!
Luciano
>>1018996 Holy fucking shit I can't fucking believe how up their own asses they are.
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>>1018996 >We are an entertainment company. As such, our objective is not to endorse any specific agenda. HOLY KEK
>>1018875 This is actually one good thing. Why should this one location be concerned about being visible in media? Sounds like quite a materialistic concern for buddhists.
>>1019015 >Kek That term has been replaced by "wew", you're welcome.
>>1018904 >STOP FUCKING UP the random Japanese inconsistencies and at the same time they kept going "NO WE ARE SUPER AUTHENTIC!!!" Reminds me of devs fucking up the somewhat recent WW2 vidya gaymes. They want to be progressive shitheads and rewrite history while shouting how accurate and respectful their shit is to it. They can't please the history experts/people who care enough to know while still pulling that cancer for the danger hairs and diversity money, but they try anyway. End result is everyone is annoyed and no one is happy. >>1018996 What a load of bs. >>1019010 Yeah unless the leadership is gutted, I don't see ubishit recovering from this downward spiral.
>>1019021 >They can't please the history experts/people who care enough to know while still pulling that cancer for the danger hairs and diversity money It also doesn't help that there are still people around who experienced WWII.
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The soy journos are already butthurt about Guillemot's statement: https://archive.is/rF1xO >The most vocal contingent of Yasuke critics want nothing less than the outright removal of the character from the game, to be replaced with an "authentic" Japanese character. It's absolutely bananas, and anyone who thinks they can make that group happy with this sort of anodyne nonsense simply needs to take a look at the responses to the delay announcement on X to be quickly dissuaded of such notions. >I can't speak from the perspective of a videogame executive but to my mind, that's the approach that works. Ubisoft is never going to satisfy its worst, most bad-faith critics and it shouldn't waste time trying: The effort would be far better spent drawing clear lines on where it stands, even if it's on a point as simple as "racist bullshit will not be tolerated." It's certainly doable: Bethesda Softworks made a point of embracing the anti-Nazi politics in Wolfenstein 2: The New Colossus, saying, "This is what our game is about."
>>1019051 I will smile when AC shadows flops.
>>1019051 Their butthurt wont really help ubisoft's stocks from dying.
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>>1019051 >faggot journo unsubtly comparing Japanese people not wanting their culture and history defiled to nazis
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IT KEEPS HAPPENING https://archive.is/gKRNs >A union has called for staff at Ubisoft’s French operation to strike over a return to office order and pay dispute. >Ubisoft management had imposed a return to office order for three days a week for all employees “without any tangible justification or any consultation with the workers' representatives.” >The STJV said the return to work order was announced following the collapse of profit-sharing negotiations between Ubisoft France management and staff. >A first strike has been called for October 15 to 17. Ubisoft declined to comment when contacted by IGN. >The STJV has made a number of demands, including a formal agreement on remote work, the restoration of profit sharing at 60%, the end of an alleged gender pay gap, and a higher increase in low salaries.
>>1019069 Ubikike could make do by firing their diversity lackeys and hiring pajeets.
>>1019051 >Ubisoft is never going to satisfy its worst, most bad-faith critics and it shouldn't waste time trying Are they talking about themselves? They are the ones are never happy.
>>1019069 Oh yeah, if they don't want to pay workers suffrage money for being diversity twats since that's a thing they do in France they can just shut down their French branch if it gets too dicey.
>>1019069 Isn't this a literal numbers exercise to see who complains and fire them over the slightest shit?
>>1019069 I really hope it just keeps getting worse for them. They deserve it for what they've been pulling.
>>1019069 >"workers are important!" LOL! AI and machines will replace you all.
Luciano
>>1018996 Hmm...that's not the Ubisoft I know, let's edit some lines in that piece >Lastly, I’d like to address the recent polarized coverage around our creative choices. We are an entertainment company. As such, our objective is to endorse any specific agenda. Our mission has never been to entertain players and enrich their lives with original and memorable experiences, that will not resonate with a global audience. There we go! That's the Ubisoft I know, right on par with "People should be comfortable in not owning their games"
Is there a complies graphic of all of the fuckups Ubisoft has made with Ass Cum: Gayjin Nigga Edition yet?
>>1019189 I don't think people pretending to work with WaH are important in the first place to even bother replacing them with bots when they already overhired like other companies have.
>>1018996 Do they think we are stupid or something? Like does he just think anyone will believe this? Is he retarded?
>>1019054 The ASsassin's Creed series is Ubisoft's best-selling franchise. The worst-selling game in that franchise is Revelations which sold 7 million copies. I don't think it will flop, though I want it to flop.
>>1019204 If it's real he's probably just making fun of employees at best.
>>1018996 They know sales will be more limited if they only sold on uplay. Seems that the delay is to make sure it's also available on steam. I hope I can see the game page soon there so I can put ignore on it
>>1019069 >we've literally been working from home for ALMOST FIVE YEARS due to "Covid" and now we're going to strike because how DARE you make us go back to actual work Kill all communists.
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https://x.com/stjv_fr/ https://www.stjv.fr/en/2024/09/call-for-strike-for-all-french-ubisoft-entities-on-october-15-16-and-17-2024/ I wouldn't be surprised if the union was a plant given how companies how but I still want to laugh.
>>1019224 Frankly, I do think going to the office is very stupid in a lot of industries. This may be one of them. Honestly, do you think any of these employees would produce better work if they were in the office? I don't. If I were working there, I would fucking dread going to the office, because it would mean that I would have to go back to working in person with a bunch of SJW faggots. It was also shown that working online decreased bias against the workers/students. Of course SJWs cite this as if they're heroes, but they're the ones doing the bias. If you're a man working in person at that Ubisoft office, I'm gonna bet right now that you're gonna have a higher chance of getting let go relative to female employees than if you were working online. They see man (especially white man), they don't like him. They don't see man, they might not remember that they hate him.
>>1019246 Working online removing bias makes sense. I heard Kennedy won the debate against Nixon if you watched on TV but Nixon won if you heard on radio.
>>1019258 Happens all the time. You know how they say girls get better grades, especially in language and arts courses? Much of that advantage disappeared a few years ago when schools went online. Things stayed pretty much the same in math and science courses, though, because they're more objective, so feminist teachers will have a harder time giving girls better grades just because. Of course the language and arts teachers knew which students were girls even online, but without seeing them, they don't get the same dopamine hit from being around them. Plus, I'm sure in-person they do build up feelings about particular students, but the feelings they build are biased. It's okay when the girls are talking but not when the boys are talking, so the boys are bad students, so when they go to grade the boys' work, they get lower marks. Online, they might still dislike boys in general, but they don't have any particular feelings about Steve and Dave or whatever. So yeah, if a job can be done online, I'd much rather do it online. If you really have concern that your employees aren't doing their work just because you can't bust into their office at any moment, then fucking fire them. But you can't, because the HR department is already filled with feminists, so they'll only let you fire the productive people, because when you go and show them the names of the unproductive people, they'll call you racist and sexist.
>>1019274 That's a roundabout way to say that women are manipulative aggressive niggers in any management position. Management can fire any of these people whenever they want, they choose not to to look good for financial credit.
>>1019282 Well yeah, that too. Women should never have entered the male workforce. However, tradcons are also just simps, slaving away while their wives live in relative luxury. Women should be property, but the problem is that too many men are just natural born simps, and instead of putting the women to work (work that they can actually handle responsible, AKA not management), they just let them sit around and consume resources.
>>1019288 I don't get how that has anything to do with choosing to work for companies with bad management while pretending to work in the first place, children are suckered into school by their parents, you choose to work.
>>1019332 Because basically all companies have bad management now, and that includes government, who essentially mandate that all other companies have bad management.
>>1019246 I do not understand why companies are so hell-bent on keeping people coming to office buildings that the companies have to pay to lease when they have a perfectly practical excuse to cut a massive chunk out of their overhead. Do they really need to have managers walking behind our cubicles so damn much? Maybe that's it--it's managers driving company policy, and they do not want to let it become too obvious that they are in effect complete wastes of space that their companies would be better off without.
>>1019353 Your theory is pretty reasonable. I'd argue that's a lot of it. An additional but related factor is that those managers are probably largely women, the type that go to work to socialize more than work. They get lonely at home, without their friends and "work-husbands" and other disgusting concepts.
>>1019355 >work-husbands Also known as affairs
Luciano
>>1018996 >As such, our objective is not to endorse any specific agenda.
>>1019353 Back when I used to spend 8 hours a day staring at a keyboard in a soulless corpoblocks drone chamber, the manager Mr. Shekelberg would get visible erections from walking around looking at people's monitors.
>>1019355 Exactly that. Women managing business ruins business, as women only care about socialization and validation. And one extra problem, besides the ones you mentioned: women can't fake their performance when everything is done online. They can't sex appeal to retarded directors and CEOs. A man doing a great job online can't be denied rewards nor can he be falsely accused by a woman of being a man she doesn't like (aka, "sex pest"), nor can she manipulate others to fire him for outperforming her. By not being physically present nor visible, only results can be shown. And thus, only results matter 9as it should always be). Taking away all in-person work ensures a better result for Men, and for the company. Only women get ruined by that, as they are the incompetent, liars, and useless liabilities that can't do anything right, and only fake their results through manipulating weak men when they are present.
Luciano
>>1019382 I believe it!
>>1019443 Both men and women fake their 'performance' online with their fake wah jobs, it's even easier for them really, that's just from casually looking at 'people' shitposting online.
>>1019566 Only women try to fake their performance. And are easily caught. As for online, the numbers show otherwise. The jobs get done better, faster, and people can actually enjoy their lives in peace. Unless they are women, who can't enjoy anything.
Luciano
>>1019671 What numbers?
>>1019842 Stop replying to the literal paid shill.
>>1019897 >Paid shill is someone who attacks the company Retard. >>1019842 All statistical numbers (and go look yourself, as it is a click away in any search engine) regarding improvement in quality of life for anyone who stopped going to the office and started working rom home. Not to mention the statistics in better productivity and, guess what? A lower rating of false sexual harassment accusations. It turns out that taking women out of companies actually improve everything for everyone, except women.
>>1019937 >What numbers? <All statistical numbers Retard.
Sorry for the direct yt link but I don't know wtf is going on with invidious anymore, so just use Brave or something if you wanna watch the video. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dN4WMQARc_A Anyway, this guy apparently has a source inside Ubisoy who told him that Shadows' original male Japanese protagonist was swapped for Yasuke because of the death of George Floyd and the BLM riots. This source also said that the reason Ubisoy panicked so much is that the preorder numbers for AC Shadows were only 7% of the preorders they had for Valhalla at that point before release, so it was going to be a tremendous bomb if it released this year. Apparently the February release date is in not definitive either and a lot of people in the company want to delay it further. There were talks of switching the male protag back to the original but they are scared of what journalists will say if they do that so that idea was scrapped. All in all, if this source is to be believed, Ubisoy is even more fucked than we thought. Boy how I fucking hope they crash and burn spectacularly.
>>1020838 >Apparently the February release date is in not definitive either and a lot of people in the company want to delay it further. There were talks of switching the male protag back to the original but they are scared of what journalists will say if they do that so that idea was scrapped. Nobody cares at all about this stupid shit besides their investors who intentionally tanked their own stocks out of spite while skimming Canadian tax dollars.
>>1020838 >Shadows' original male Japanese protagonist was swapped for Yasuke because of the death of George Floyd and the BLM riots Honestly, if that's true, then they get what they fucking deserve.
>>1020838 Only took a decade but wokeness is now being not only laughed about, it's financially bombing everything it touches.
>>1020853 The woke issue really only exploded because of Sony pushing BLM/MeToo, if it wasn't for that, then the games industry would be in a much better place.
>>1020858 To be frank Sony is just a punching bag for everyone including Bungie.
>>1020861 They are, but I'd make the argument that they pushed left-wing extremist ideologies in gaming hard around 2018 when Sony moved the HQ to California. Nintendo actually caved to consumer demand and took down a lot of the censorship stuff until recently. Hell, the reason a lot of Japanese devs moved to the Switch and PC was because of Sony demanding that developers and publishers make their games more politically correct.
>>1020858 How fucking new could you be? The shit you reference is years late. Do you understand why people started using 8chan in the first place?
>>1020873 Don't get me wrong, the feminist issue was a thing two years before 8chan was even a thing. The reason we're still talking about it now is because of Sony and PlayStation trying to dictate the market. I'd argue that GamerGate would've been even more successful if it wasn't for Sony fucking things up.
>>1020877 I think what you've been seeing with Sony and other companies that act like them is the death throes of their movement. They were trying to do their thing subtly so they could boil the frog without it noticing. But Gamergate brought the attention to a wider audience, so they panicked and sped up their efforts, which just resulted in more people noticing, and now they're losing money hand over fist. They're just speeding up their own failures. Of course they could have just not been SJW, or even reversed course at any time, but there are a few dyed in the wool religious extremists in influential positions, and they'd rather destroy the company. They'll get their paychecks either way, so why wouldn't they also use the company to push their religion? Due to fear of needing to look for a new job once the company goes under? That's a few years away, and a lot of these people are in too deep. They'd have hard times getting new jobs once all of their ilk are out of power, like that SweetBaby Inc. guy who said he can't get hired now. Alternatively, until the whole movement is completely dead, it doesn't matter to any individual if one company fails, because they'll just get jobs at some other company that's still doing it. So they'll keep killing every company, one after another, until they're all dead.
>>1020838 >so it was going to be a tremendous bomb if it released this year. It is going to bomb regardless. Delaying it to Feb so they can use nog history month as a shield is not going to save it. Feb is packed with games as is. Ubisoft are beyond fucking retarded.
>>1020881 The only thing I really saw was Japanese people complaining about Ubikike to their government, anything else is just shareholders intentionally sabotaging stocks.
>>1020838 >BLM/I can't breathe man made them change the MC into a nigger That I could believe. >they were horrified by the response and thought yasuke would be a selling point for the game I've seen others echo this statement. It is remarkable just how out of touch they are with fans. >There were talks of switching the male protag back to the original but they are scared of what journalists will say They would be crucified by the gayming media, but I also think it may be too late to correct this in the eyes of the gamers as well. Then again, the Sonic movie was met with condemnation/mockery and that managed to win people back after they made changes. Though I don't believe they shit on fans who complained like ubishit did. I could be misremembering though. >next assassin's creed is going to be about lesbian witches and will be the "gayest game yet" Lesbian witches really are popular these days despite flopping every time. I swear these losers all pull from the same pool of writers. >skull and bones may have cost up to 850 million dollars I'm still in awe of how they fugged up such a simple and already mostly done game idea. >endymion I've heard nothing but negative things about him. >>1020853 My favorite part of it is that a lot of the devs are still all in on the cancer. They are all going to kill themselves, and all I have to do is laugh and not buy their games.
>>1020914 >Though I don't believe they shit on fans who complained like ubishit did. I could be misremembering though. The Sonic movie backtracked pretty quickly after that initial trailer was released. SJWs freaked out at fans, but the creators of the film didn't. That said, it's absurd how well it worked. Now people claim the movie is good, even though the rest of the film still has nothing to do with Sonic. It's about a goddamned alien little boy getting adopted by a small town sheriff and his black wife. But just fixing the character design did wonders for goodwill. It might be too late for Ubisoft since they really have tried too hard to attack the fans, but then again, a lot of normalfags are easily manipulated. I think a reversal and apology would go a long way. Frankly, as extreme as I am on these issues, I could imagine scenarios where I would forgive these companies and buy their products again. They would need to apologize and they would need to fix the problem. And it couldn't just be a superficial fix like Sonic. If they did another Star Wars movie and Rey was replaced with a boy but the scripts and everything else were still the same garbage as the last few movies, I wouldn't buy it. But if they apologized and then released a movie with some new creative people who proved (through this movie) that they actually understood the appeal of the series and weren't just trying to propagandize to you, then I might accept the apology. I don't expect Ubisoft, or Disney, or any of these other companies, to ever do that. Even Paramount didn't really do it with Sonic. We have two movies and a TV show now, and they're all still exactly as bad as that first trailer implied, only they have okay character designs. The Knuckles TV show dedicates 1/6 of its runtime to Knuckles participating in a jewish ritual dinner. Fixing the character designs didn't fix the root problem here. Swapping Yasuke out of this game wouldn't fix the root problems with Ubisoft.
>>1020926 I have no idea how it fixed goodwill since both movies are unwatchable garbage to the point where the stronk womyn mario jew movie is more bearable.
>>1020914 >>next assassin's creed is going to be about lesbian witches and will be the "gayest game yet" If this were a Japanese game, that claim would make me pretty interested. Too bad it's Ubisoft.
>>1020932 Its a joke about the acolyte and agatha all along, anon.
>>1020928 >to the point where the stronk womyn mario jew movie is more bearable. Well hey now, come on, let's not go too far here. I'm a little perturbed at how there is a thing about Sonic being a lonely kid in the first movie, but at least he is still the hero in his own movie. In the Mario movie, Peach is so much better at everything than Mario that she has to get taken out by chance (bad writing) just so Mario can have the chance to do anything at the climax of the movie. They try to say the movie is about the bond between two brothers, but they aren't together through the whole movie, and Luigi doesn't get to do anything, because he had to get replaced by feminist Peach. No, all that shit is even more distracting than Sonic's interracial human parents. It's more central to the film. At least the Sonic movie isn't all about how Sonic actually isn't even as good as Tom, to the degree that it comes off as bad writing when Tom isn't the one who beats Robotnik. >>1020933 Yeah but he has a good point that it's not even the premises that are the problem, it's the execution. You know when a Western studio does it, it's gonna be Agatha, but if a Japanese studio did it, it might actually be some really weird shit that might be interesting.
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>>1020934 I gave both movies benefit of the doubt, I'm not gonna say that they were any worse than the Pikachu Detective shit.
>>1020926 Apologizing will be the least they can do. And that will be because of pressure from board members. >>1020928 I enjoyed Sonic 1 and 2 with my kids But man, an ezio trilogy would be banger of story to tell.
>>1020914 >>endymion Cause he's a culture war eceleb sperg. If you're a choir boy he's a preacher, and that's the best case scenario. >>1020926 >I could imagine scenarios where I would forgive these companies and buy their products again Yeah probably after five years of non BS actual quality games (7/10+ scores from actual gamers not IGN), MAYBE they'll have re-earned the benefit of the doubt and my desire to give them my precious dollars. >>1020934 I forget, did people actually like Gundam Witch from Mercury? Closest and most recent example I can think of.
>>1019380 >>1019443 But that's not even remotely what luciano says. For fuck's sake, retarded mod.
>>1020937 I'd say Detective Pikachu was better than both Mario and Sonic. It doesn't go way out of its way to just shit all over the original series. It's not the same story or characters (I know there's a 3DS game, but nobody cares), but it does feel like the proper world, and at least it's not deliberately ruining the story and characters. Plus, frankly, structuring the plot of a Pokemon game into a movie does seem like it would be quite difficult. Manga and anime are the right format for that, not a feature film. I mean maybe it's possible, but it seems hard. >>1020949 >(7/10+ scores from actual gamers not IGN), I don't trust "actual gamers" either. If I don't personally know them, then how could I? Plus, numbers are a difficult way to judge things. What I have ended up doing is waiting to hear if a game is propaganda, and hearing about bullshit DLC and stuff, and if I don't hear it, then I give it a chance. And sometimes it turns out it is still propaganda, and it does still have bullshit DLC or whatever, and the reason people don't talk about it more is because they've gotten used to it, and think that less is fine. No, it's not. None is fine. But these times I've been lead astray are few, and I've been able to weed out most of the really bad stuff. The ones that I do end up giving attention to are "less bad," at least. Then I warn others.
>>1020960 I just look at gameplay videos. It's pretty easy to tell when a game is pozzed and if the gameplay is fun just from looking at footage of it, I don't understand how people even need reviewers other than to maybe highlight a game that went under the radar.
>>1020965 Yeah, it's generally pretty easy. My brother gets mad at me all the time because I can take one glance at a game or movie or cartoon and instantly know it's SJW. It's not hard. They use particular character designs and artstyles and all that. It's easily identifiable. And the other thing they do is a lot of times the SJW shit will be backloaded, especially in tv shows, so you won't notice it the first few episodes. But if you're smart, you can glance at it and know it's coming. People tried to tell me Game of Thrones was good when it first started. I watched the beginning and told them all right away how it would end, because obviously it's gonna be influenced by politics, and I know how female characters are going to be treated. Then I proceeded to not watch any more of the show, and then years later I heard people complaining about exactly what I told them was going to happen. And it's not just that the show (or whatever) is gonna start loading the propaganda, it's that when you can tell the creators are SJW, you can tell they didn't prioritize merit in hiring. Not only do they not prioritize the product being entertaining, they don't prioritize the creators being good. So even if they manage to hold back on the propaganda, and only put a relatively small amount of it, the product still won't be well made, because they hired and promoted people not based on who is good, but on who ticked the right boxes. How people can have lived through the 2010s, or even the 2000s, for that matter, and not recognize this, is beyond me. The tropes have existed for many decades and been very obvious. A lot of these core ideas go back to the '60s in pop culture, often even earlier. They've just gotten more and more forced and transparent. But they were easy to recognize in the '60s and they're even easier to recognize now.
>>1020960 I don't remember it being completely insulting but I couldn't really bear to watch it, I don't like the Dragon Quest V movie that the Sonic Unleashed cutscene company put out either and I tried watching that in Japanese.
>>1020971 >I watched the beginning and told them all right away how it would end So you predicted Dany going mad and getting executed at the last minute with no buildup or foreshadowing? Or midget ninja girl being the one that kills the BBEG? That's actually crazy if true. :^) >How people can have lived through the 2010s and not recognize this is beyond me. Some people are so stupid as to give the benefit of the doubt for those series you describe where "there's no SJW shit" yet. Especially when they're not keeping track of the creators and don't recognize any staff names. I've been there before, but every year it is getting more and more obvious to where even normalcattle will call it out. Anybody who trusted, for example, Velma's trailer after ten seconds was begging for trash television. We've been debating the normalfag question in the GG thread all the time, just from today: >Much of the centre enabled the left's bullshit, and by extension cancerous elements of the right. The centre wants to stick their heads in the sand while pretending things, are't actively getting worse around them
>>1020987 >Or midget ninja girl being the one that kills the BBEG? I could tell that one girl with the eyes too far apart was gonna become some absurdly powerful warrior, and the blonde bitch was gonna take over. I don't know details because I didn't watch this shit, but I heard everyone complaining about it being absurdly SJW at the end.
>>1020977 >Dragon Quest V movie Haven't watched it, but I don't know how they expected to cram a 40 hour rpg epic of a game into an hour and a half-long movie. Part of the appeal of the game was the unique aspects of actually witnessing what happens and being immersed into the game (your father literally taking those hits in front of you after showing he was more than strong enough to handle them if you weren't taken hostage), as well as you being the one to make your decisions, such as which monsters you choose to accept into your party, or which girl you choose, even if the obvious choice is Bianca, its still a choice DQ V would simply be best as a game by far.
>>1020990 I'm just saying there's absurdly SJW shit that was a safe and easy prediction for how GoT ended, and then there's the retardery that the last two seasons accomplished which was dumber than anyone could've anticipated. I saw the live thread that we had on 8prime's /tv/ when the last episode aired, they were predicting woke shit and were flabbergasted.
>>1020995 With GRRM works, a safe prediction is that everyone dies at some point or another, often involving some sort of skullduggery or bullshit. Another safe prediction is that you will be unhappy with the outcome.
>>1020997 The last couple seasons were not his work. The TV show forked from the books, because Martin was taking too long to write them.
>>1020999 Wew, well that's just amusing then, but was it really that surprising? I also thought they consulted with him about what the ending should be, or at least got his approval or whatever?
>>1020997 For everybody to be unhappy, though, is an accomplishment. Right now, that's exactly what Ubisoft is doing with their recent string of failures, and I don't see any path of recovery for them without mass layoffs of their DEI departments. >>1020999 >>1021001 I've seen a few theories that Martin not finishing the books is due to the backlash the TV ending got, because it was actually his ending and he's too chickenshit to publish it and too backed into a corner to fix it. It's impressive how he's made enemies of basically everyone of his fans at this point and lost all of his credibility from the first five books.
>>1021002 Didn't Martin recently say he couldn't finish the book because he's scared of fascism or some retarded shit?
>>1020994 It's just not well written let alone well directed, the lupin movie they did had similar problems, nice and shiny to look at, really just kind of bland to watch, not horribly offensive but just not very good, The stupid VR shit at the end of the DQV movie didn't help it though
>>1021004 Something to that effect. https://archive.ph/lupVu Oh but the actually good show that people like that wasn't written by Martin has done "everything wrong" https://archive.ph/Rf7QT Sound familiar?
Supposedly Godot has actually increased in funding https://archive.is/ysPsZ https://archive.is/R8USx
>>1021068 Wrong thread?
>>1021068 Thats not what their page shows though, they have more small supporters, but they lost 4k a month.
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>>1020971 >Yeah, it's generally pretty easy. My brother gets mad at me all the time because I can take one glance at a game or movie or cartoon and instantly know it's SJW. It's not hard. They use particular character designs and artstyles and all that. It's easily identifiable. And the other thing they do is a lot of times the SJW shit will be backloaded, especially in tv shows, so you won't notice it the first few episodes. But if you're smart, you can glance at it and know it's coming. People tried to tell me Game of Thrones was good when it first started. I watched the beginning and told them all right away how it would end, because obviously it's gonna be influenced by politics, and I know how female characters are going to be treated. Then I proceeded to not watch any more of the show, and then years later I heard people complaining about exactly what I told them was going to happen. Reminds me of when I watched Suits. Where the show, after the first season, very quickly centered around Mike and Rachel's relationship instead of being a show about lawyers doing lawyering. There was still some good episodes later on, but I just had to turn it off after Season 5 because of how unberable it became. Especially with everyone shouting at each other literally every other conversation, constantly smoking weed to solve a bad situation (That isn't a joke), and not to mention how predictable all the other characters became. Such as Louis ALWAYS finding a way to screw shit up and Jessica constantly having to prove that she's a "strong independent woman" in a world where her law firm is the leader in the field. Was watching it the family, and everyone else checked out long berfore I did, but I cannot deny that the warning signs were there early on. And this isn't JUST an issue caused by baizuo pozzing modern media. It's an issue that has occured since the 1970's (Here in America). And people had a term for this type of media: SOAP OPERAS. Needless to say, if a show feels like it's a soap opera, it is, it's pozzed, it's never going to improve, and you'll be wasting your time hoping that it does. >How people can have lived through the 2010s, or even the 2000s, for that matter, and not recognize this, is beyond me. Because of women. Women typically enjoy soap operas, meanwhile men typically don't. So in order to reach the "widest possible audience", they need to turn it into a soap opera in order to make the women interested in the story.
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>>1021125 >3rd vid Is that actually how the Star Wars sequels went? Holy shit, am I glad I never watched them. Star Wars really did end at a teddy bear picnic in 1983.
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>>1021125 No, soap operas aren't inherently SJW. They are certainly a genre aimed at women, but there is a distinction. Most women, the actual audiences, don't like SJW shit either. It's a small subset of women (and some men, though they're largely just beta orbiter followers). Women all reacted badly to the Sex and the City reboot for the same reasons men reacted badly to what Disney did to Marvel and Star Wars. I do think they're more susceptible, more likely to go along with whatever they're convinced is trendy, but just because something is aimed at them doesn't mean it's SJW. Also, soap operas go back to the 1920s. And frankly, a lot of other genres have borrowed many elements from them. I know people here will have mixed opinions on superhero comics, but they're aimed at men and they've been soap operas since the '70s. In fact, back in the '60s, The Incredible Hulk marketed itself as being a soap opera, as a selling point, because it was one of the first comics to lean very heavily on an ongoing storyline, and of course there was a lot of drama, including romance. These weren't the very first Hulk comics (the original series got cancelled after six issues), but it was the series that made it popular. Spider-Man is another example that, since the start, has been very soap-opera-ish, with about half (or more) of every issue being about Peter's home life, usually his love life. And of course it's very much aimed at men. In fact, it's those men who liked the soap opera in comics who got most invested, and thus hate what has happened to comics in the last decade, because it's ruining the characters they've followed for 85 years. Comics nerds got a little mad about Spidey getting organic web shooters for a bit in the mid-2000s, but they got a whole lot more mad immediately after when he sold his marriage to the devil, so he and Mary Jane were never married, and they never had a baby that got immediately kidnapped by the Green Goblin and was never seen again. It's very soap opera-ish, but it can be done right and done wrong. >tl;dr: Soap operas and other genres aimed at women don't have to be SJW. That's giving SJW garbage a free pass.
>>1021152 The existence of females as a dedicated consumer demographic is itself "SJW", once you've hit that point your society is already too fucked to pretend to be able to compose itself properly elsewhere.
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>>1021179 >The existence of females as a dedicated consumer demographic is itself "SJW" There is actual truth in that statement. It isn't that females cannot be dedicated to particular games. I have seen them get obsessed. It's that women are not any kind of monolithic demographic with similar tastes and interests that you can attract by pandering to them. It's why, despite game companies' best efforts to win women over, they never really followed suit. See, game execs have never been inside an old school video arcade in their lives. That is why they do not see what games women actually gravitate towards, or rather how widely their interests vary. They are not queuing up at the stuff that is supposedly targeted at them. What game companies should be doing to get more women to buy their products is to stop making lousy, DRM-restricted, micro-transaction-riddled, half-finished, un-beta tested cinematic experiences built around repacked old formulas. They keep trying to attract women with products that they are supposed to want instead of what they actually want, which is--surprise!--exactly what everyone else wants as well. They skip cut scenes to get back to hacking and slashing just like guys do. Some of them even like blood splatter and sexy teenage girls in miniskirts and muscle cars and being a badass. Companies need to stop treating their customers as demographics and start treating them as people who play video games, which is what they actually fucking are. But no, they will continue to be surprised when men like games like Portal and women like games like Contra.
>>1021179 There is a difference between aiming something at women at the expense of men(see the last Charlie's Angel reboot) and releasing a product that can be enjoyed by males, but predominately women are interested in. Soap Operas, with the drama, intrigue, love triangles, and a complex web of relationships is something women tend to enjoy more than men. To say that those are SJW, it would be like saying that 60s Star Trek or 80s action flicks or Gundam, if you want a japanese example, are MGTOW pilled, just because men predominately preferred stuff like that. Yes, there are women who like stuff like that, the same way some men also enjoy soap operas. In the same vain, it would be like saying that doll houses are SJW and action figurines are MGTOW. Or to give a more vidya example, it would be like saying that NIKKE Goddess of War is SJW just because 30% of the Korean fanbase is women and 40% of the Japanese audience is women, and not because it was censored. Or to say that Candy Crush or Sims are SJW just because a high amount of women play them.
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This shit about how incomprehensible women's wants are is hilarious to see if you ever take a peek at the Asian game market, which has locked them down to a science. It's just that much like men in the West traditionally were reluctant to admit they liked shit like Senran Kagura in the past women are insecure about admitting they eat up reeking trash like Twilight, Fifty Shades of Gray, and Bridgerton. There's research conducted into how boys and girls play with toys where boys treat the toys as actors in an overall narrative whereas girls project themselves into the toys. This is why that "WE NEED REPRESENTATION" bullcrap worked so much in the gynocentrist West, because it was aimed at women, and similarly it's why isekike is loved by effeminate men. Women also tend to try to harangue men into changing their shit to appeal to them, while men just don't bother with trying to change women's shit to appeal to them, which is why muh patriarchy was enforced to just fucking avoid that nonsense. In any case, here is Love and Deepspace, a female-pandering gacha that makes a shitload of yuan and that ruffles the chink puritans' feathers, as an example of the stuff female gamers really want. The funny thing is that it's not that different from what a lot of male gamers want if you flip the sexes.
>>1021217 >>1021230 >>1021229 It's essentially what Miyazaki said anime being a mistake, because it's not made by people with life experience who want to tell stories, but either Otaku who just want to make more of the pandering schlock they eat by the barrel full or suits who see the above as their main demographic and thus pander to them as well. In the west, it was the double assault of marketing cliches about "sales demographics" coupled with DEI shit to try and push "inclusivity" and "letting the player see themselves in the game". Basically, the two greatest cancers in the world are Capitalism and Marxism, since both seek to place men into carefully defined boxes, either as consumer demographics to be exploited for profit, or as a nebulous "class" to be radicalized for socialist revolution. Evola recognized this back in the day.
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>>1021235 Capitalism despite it's flaws works and, communism only degrades society. So I'm gonna stick with capitalism and, the possibility of being able to have a better life. Where I won't in commie bullshit or some other system.
>>1021238 It's all the same system since the exact same people run it you stupid lying fuck.
>>1021244 Is this another NatSoc is a better alternative sperg out?
>>1021248 In all honesty, Nat Soc effectively boxes men in as well through race, Slav, Mediterranean, Germanic, etc. It has the same sins as communism where it rightfully points out the flaws in all the other systems then positions itself as beyond reproach.
>>1021235 >It's essentially what Miyazaki said anime being a mistake, because it's not made by people with life experience who want to tell stories, but either Otaku who just want to make more of the pandering schlock they eat by the barrel full or suits who see the above as their main demographic and thus pander to them as well. Except Miyazaki is both a hypocrite and a hack. First off, he's of the same generation that is caused the current culturale climate in Japan that there's "no higher honor" than being a サラリーマン who's working his entire life to pay for his elder's welfare. Second, Miyazaki was an otaku himself, who turned to anime during a time in when Japanese culture and history was at it's lowest because of how the country practically lost it's entire pride and identity in response to the atomic bomb and losing the war. And third, he was an unapologetic Marxist who only abandoned his beliefs when he couldn't reconcile the contridictions of a Socialist owning a business, much more write a story about a princess. So when you really boil it down, he's ridiculing the modern generation for having the same problems he had. Or at least handling their own problems in a more healthily and educated environment.
>>1021294 To be fair, using a generational criticism on an individual is kind of a cop-out unless he actually conforms to the generational criticism you're referring to, which I haven't seen much evidence for. The rest of your criticism of him I agree with.
>>1021294 That still rings true even if he's part of the problem. One can correctly identify the problem even if he's stuck inside it. Japanese people are becoming rat inside a rat race. Every child is pressured into excelling in studies and be an obedient slave for same reason as people everywhere in asia are being forced - that's the easiest and least resistant way to climb social ladder. The "correct way" that everyone else is doing. Now they no longer have a childhood, they never explored outside, be free, become independent of society, forge your own path. Now ghibli like grounded-fantasy anime gave them a window to see the greener side, what life could've been if they weren't a cog in the machine. And instead of chasing that dream, making that view into a reality, they're addicted to the window itself. They're addicted to anime itself and bear the soulless life just to have a dopamine hit from anime. Its not a criticism of the "otaku generation" per se, every generation have the dream problem (can american dream be considered that?), its just it's get much easier to be addicted to anime's dream, and things will get much worse in asian countries.
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Forget Star Wars Outlaws flopping, and the delay of Asscreed, Monopoly is here to save the company. We are so back! Only 17.99 dollars with Ubisoft+ https://store.ubisoft.com/us/monopoly-/6638e792aa201a2d55bcc774.html?lang=en_US Get it now while it's still hot.
>>1021303 Why would they release Monopoly when they got not monopoly. Nintendo, Tencent and Valve should release it instead
No more shitposting on my part >>1021307 I am not sure to which game you refer to as bootleg monopoly, but even if they have such a franchise, Monopoly should sell just from brand recognition, so it makes sense to get the license to that. They probably delegated this to their C team in Eastern Europe, maybe had them release it a bit earlier to appease their investors with something, after they delayed AssCreed. The one surprising thing, is that while the game is on PC and consoles including the Switch, it's not on mobile. You would think that such a game would work great on a tablet, and I doubt it's that demanding, especially to the newer gen tablets. Maybe it's because phone and tablet fags don't usually buy a game, they either get the free edition that has 1000 add breaks or they waste their money in a gatcha. Hell, they could even incorporate adds in the mobile version, such as every time you go to Jail or draw a certain Chance card, you are forced to watch an add, as in on the Chance card it says: "Watch 30 seconds of adds".
>>1021301 You're conflating Ghiblishit with all anime, when anime clearly has plenty of shit that isn't really about running around barefoot in nature. I'm on this board and play video games because I love video games, not because I want to live in those worlds that video games take place in. >They're addicted to anime itself and bear the soulless life just to have a dopamine hit from anime. As opposed to what? Life has always involved drudgery and brutal labor throughout human history, if not worse shit like dying in wars for people who don't give a fuck about you. I'd infinitely prefer living in this time to almost any other time in history. The real downside is that they don't get to enjoy the family life as much, but that has to do with a lot of social factors than only just people enjoying escapism.
>>1021301 >One can correctly identify the problem even if he's stuck inside it. Identifying the problem is one thing, actually fucking doing something about it is something entirely different. You can point at the dogshit on the floor all you want, but it's going to stay there until someone finally picks it up. >Every child is pressured into excelling in studies and be an obedient slave for same reason as people everywhere in asia are being forced - that's the easiest and least resistant way to climb social ladder. No, it's to keep the welfare state alive. >And instead of chasing that dream, making that view into a reality, they're addicted to the window itself. Has anyone ever considered that it's because no one ever actually told these people that they actually can live or at least experience a world outside of the bubble modern society has built? Like I keep repeatedly saying, you can drive 30 minutes in any direction and stumble across a whole other world in your own backyard. Cities do have their purpose and place, but it's not the one-all-end-all of societal development nor lifestyle.
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>>1021309 >The real downside is that they don't get to enjoy the family life as much, but that has to do with a lot of social factors than only just people enjoying escapism. It's more than just that. For example, has anyone ever considered how easy it is to pick up a phone and call their parents? Not for any particular reason, but just to talk to them. Tell them about your life. Not seeking any advice or anything, but just telling them that you at least remember them.
>>1021317 I call my grandma once or twice a week :>
>>1021317 >mp4 Wew, how pitiful. Anyways, I call my grandparents every day, though they expect that out of me. I should text my mom more though, she doesn't expect it out of me as much so I do it less often than I should.
>>1021303 Am I the only one who is mad we'll never get cool versions of popular games like the original Monopoly Tycoon?
>>1021313 >Has anyone ever considered that it's because no one ever actually told these people that they actually can live or at least experience a world outside of the bubble modern society has built? They can't. There is nothing outside that bubble. There is no escape. Everything is society now. >>1021303 Why the fuck would people buy a video game version of something that they can just spread out over a table and play?
>>1021327 >There is nothing outside that bubble. There is no escape. Everything is society now. The only people who believe this are Socialists or people who have been mystified by Socialists.
>>1021327 >Why the fuck would people buy a video game version of something that they can just spread out over a table and play? Online play with friends and family. It's much easier than to actually all gather in one physical space, especially with distant relatives and friends. The same way a lot of people play DnD on Roll20+Discord instead of everyone gathering in the basement.
>>1021244 It really isn't. I know what you're saying here, anon, but when you internally accept your enemies' language to define reality, you accept their dominion over you. "Capitalism" is an ethnolinguistic term. It doesn't mean the same thing to every ethnicity.
>>1021230 >Women also tend to try to harangue men into changing their shit to appeal to them, while men just don't bother with trying to change women's shit to appeal to them That only happens in a society in which women pretend to be men. Men passively (and subconsciously) change women (they WANT to be molded to a man's desires), whereas women play-acting as men think changes can be consciously and actively imposed. But men don't respect that behavior.
>>1021333 Capitalism just like communism are both phrases, product coined up by someone else, I didn't design or write the word and I sure as hell know you didn't either.
>>1021341 You didn't design any of the other words you just posted either.
>>1021329 Or people who have actually traveled.
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>>1021294 >Except Miyazaki is both a hypocrite
>>1021230 >There's research conducted into how boys and girls play with toys where boys treat the toys as actors in an overall narrative whereas girls project themselves into the toys. Funny how they say females have more empathy, but when boys play they can actually understand how other people think and put themselves in someone else's shoes. Meanwhile women need every character to be "literally me" or they can't relate to it. >Capitalism and Marxism, since both seek to place men into carefully defined boxes, either as consumer demographics to be exploited for profit, or as a nebulous "class" to be radicalized for socialist revolution. Capitalism doesn't need the specific kind of demographic thinking you're discussing. That's just one strategy some people use. If you have a better one, start using it, and if you find success with that strategy, then that's evidence that it's better. The fact that modern companies keep losing a lot of money is evidence that their current strategies aren't very good. You're literally discussing the marketplace of ideas. >>1021294 >he's ridiculing the modern generation for having the same problems he had. Putting it this way actually makes him easier to understand, since people have been doing this throughout all of recorded history. >>1021317 Fuck that. If I had good parents I wouldn't be on 8chan. >>1021334 This is sort of true. To a degree. It's astounding how much women will change to suit their boyfriends' interests. They notably become more right-leaning when they get married. They say that happens to everyone as they get older, but really men are much more right-leaning to begin with, and I think the influence of boyfriends and husbands is really understated when people interpret the results of these studies. That said, women are also fickle, and will leave men very easily to keep trying to monkey branch or just ride the carousel. (They initiate upwards of 70% of divorces.) And all those opinions they seemed to hold while with him are subject to change if the next man doesn't hold them. It's similar to how it's well documented that women will follow trends more easily than men, but we don't talk as much about how they'll just go along with their current boyfriend more than men are likely to just copy their current girlfriend. That happens too, but a lot less.
>>1021366 Maldito desgraciado acá también mierdaposteando no? Que tremendo cáncer que eres, animal
>>1021373 >Fuck that. If I had good parents I wouldn't be on 8chan. I don't agree, I think most anons are just normal people who like video games.
>>1021347 Translation: I am delusional.
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>>1021391 Yeah, I had great parents and to this day have a strong relationship with all my brothers and sisters. I just grew up in a time of 80's shock comedy and the wild west of the early internet - and 8chan is one of the few places left that still even vaguely resembles the way the whole internet used to be. Some of the old sites and communities are still around, but they've become so entrenched in their own cliquish insular communities full of self-important oldfucks that they lost the vibrancy they once had. At least the semi-anonymous nature of sites like this keep that kind of shit to a minimum. And I really like video games
>>1021235 First, Hayao Miyazaki is a retard/communist, so he is always wrong about everything. Second, otaku culture and otaku tastes are perection. Nobody cares about boring shitty movies about shitty subjects. Everyone cares about, and loves, fantasy, action, sci-fi and extravagant concepts and visuals. So, "muh Miyazaki said..." means nothing. He is a nobody.
>>1021294 I can tell that Miyazaki is a hypocritical nigger but I could also say that for a lot of these uh diva people, I don't recall people like Tezuka or Go Nagai shitting on people wily nilly.
>>1021360 How does Japan being an ant colony make him a hypocrite? Does the psychotic Japanese education system make everyone in Japan into otaku? >>1021397 >I am a huge faggot. Please rape my face.
>>1021518 >creates animations that people get obsessed with <complains about the problems that obsession with anime have created I mean come on now anon.
>>1021532 I don't even think his complaints were aimed about his movies getting shittier or anything, he was criticizing some other company's product since it looked like shit to him.
I was referring to his "Otaku were a mistake" quote.
>>1021532 That I can get, but what does that have to do with Japanese schools?
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>>1021537 Otaku is a loaded term for fanatical autism for xxx, all of his early decent movies have guns or a motif of war.
>>1021547 Fanatical Japanophiles, or anime/manga nerds, not "autistic special interest."
>>1021729 What are you talking about? You're referring to "weeaboo". Otaku is a general term (often used for anime/manga but can refer to anything such as trains, guns, planes, mecha, etc.)
>>1021736 "Can refer" isn't standard. "SJW" can refer to St. John's Wort, does "SJW" make you think of herbal medicine?
>>1021729 >>1021769 It makes no sense to define "Otaku" as "Japanophiles" because the term is primarily used in Japan by Japanese people to refer to other Japanese people. "Otaku" often refers to anime, manga, LNs, and so on, but talking about "train otaku" is every bit as standard as anime otaku. The borders between different types aren't even clearly defined, with mecha otaku, gun otaku, plamo otaku, and so on all being part of a continuum. Or things like idol otaku, which some anime otaku would reject for being 3D, but many welcome as being part of the same otaku umbrella. "Autistic special interest" is exactly what it means.
>>1021778 Defining "otaku" as "Japanophile" sounds like something out of those books from the 90's trying to explain Pokemon to baby boomers, where they say you should pronounce anime like "Annie May"
>>1021793 It makes sense to define "otaku" as "fanatical Japanophiles, or anime/manga nerds" in English countries, where it's used like that. In English countries, you hear "otaku," you don't hear "First Amendment gun nuts," that's what sounds like something out of those books from the 90's trying to explain Pokemon to baby boomers. Like an old book said "it can technically mean this" when you'll never hear that meaning in 100 uses in English countries.
>>1021778 It reminds me of the same discussion I had with the anons on smug/a/ a few months ago in the Holo thread, which is still up, and surprisingly the mods didn't purge the entire discussion. To boil it down, somewhere in the discussion I asked if an old school Trekie, who had all the episodes recorded on VHS, learned Klingon, had all the figurines, and cosplayed at the Trekie convention could be considered a Western style Otaku, and the answer was mostly no, because the Otaku needs to identify himself as part of a larger, marginalized, subculture, as in the train Otaku, the Gundam Otaku, the magical girl show Otaku, the vidya Otaku, all think of themselves as belonging to a larger, marginalized, subgroup, whereas the Trekkie is just the Trekkie and will not identify himself with the Star Wars nerd or the Glee Club nerd or the Chess nerd as all belonging to some Nerd subculture, the same way the Otaku does. And just to be clear, if a Japanese were to be obsessed with Star Trek, he can still be an Otaku as he still identifies as belonging to that group. Another anon also pointed out, that it's kinda like the word "anime", in that while the Japanese refer to it as "animation" or "cartoon" and have no problem putting the old Tom & Jerry cartoons in a Top 100 best anime ever made, the westerner would never do that, and would throw a fit if another westerner would say that old Tom and Jerry is anime. Yes, yes, I know there is a recent Japanese animation with Tom and Jerry, it's why I specified "old".
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>>1021802 I translate people as retarded if they don't get that otaku literally means autistic faggot in Japanese.
>>1021518 >hopping IPs to defend yourself Nah, you failed.People who travel are the ones who know socialism is bad.
>>1021802 >First Amendment gun nuts What.
It gets worse, and Ghost of Yotei also receives attention Copying this from our pals on Sleepy/v/ https://inv.nadeko.net/watch?v=Madlvl8YVNE Assassin's Creed: Shadows >Original protaonist was Taka Yamauchi, a shinto monk who wanted nothing to do with the larger conflict related to the Sword of Eden, an artifact that corrupts its wielder and grands him dominion over others. >Original story related to the events surrounding Oda Nobunada's murder and Hanzo Hattori, who was framed. Hanzo is wounded and taken in by Taka. >The Japanese branch of the Assassins would be the Iga Shinobi, working to free Japan from the grip of Akechi Mitsuhide, the real killer of Nobunaga. >The grip of the Sword would corrupt various political/military figures from that period in Japanese history, including Toyotomi Hideyoshi, who would refer to himself as "The Demon King of the Six Heavens" under its influence. Sources' work experience: >Flown out to Japan to begin studying the cultural practices there, including Shinto hand-cleaning rituals and the construction of ancient shrines. >Sources were very mad that Ubisoft was willing to invest so much in shit like mobile games, while the Shadows devs had much of their pre-production work and writing ripped apart. >This apparently happened in 2014-2015, meaning Shadows has been in development for about a decade. >More confirmation of Yasuke replacing Taka due to the BLM movement in 2020. >"Asian men are often treated with the same disdain as white men." (This is a reason why Fujibayashi Nagato, a real Japanese man who operated as a shinobi, was not playable and Ubisoft instead fabricated his daughter.) >Ubisoft has an abnormal number of female devs in their studios, which is purposeful. >Most of their talent comes from contractors, who are all middle-aged white men. >There is a "devastating lack of talent" at Ubisoft at many Western studios. >Publishers will hire senior devs as contractors so they don't have to be credited the same way as the women and diversity hires. >Ironically, this means that the white guys are being paid more since contractors make better money than full-time hires. This is apparently happening "all over the industry right now." >Ghost of Yotei The sequel to 2020's Ghost of Tsushima. In the first game you played as a samurai having to compromise on the bushido code in order to survive during the Mongol invasion of Japan. In the new game you'll play as a stronk womyn voiced by a "nonbinary" LGBT activist woman who shaves half her head. I figure most of you didn't pay any attention to these since they're Sony games, but the thing I've heard about the situation was that there was so little communication between Sucker Punch and Sony that the latter didn't even know Ghost of Yotei was being worked on until they saw the reveal trailer. Sony and their marketing department were very unhappy, as were players who liked the first game. >The sources also describe committees of leftists and communists who have to approve/deny every thematic and mechanical point in games. You literally go before a panel and say "we want to have a male protagonist" and you get told to do it differently. >The VA woman is apparently a nightmare to work with, and even other leftists think she's crazy. >Most of the talented/senior devs have quietly left Sucker Punch already - including the key talent behind Ghost of Tsushima. >Some time within the last year, Ghost of Tsushima 2 was halted and changed to GoY. GoT2 started only a few months after the first game launched. >GoY's development has apparently reused a lot of GoT2 assets, but is nowhere near being done and will likely not release in 2025. >GoY taking place 300 years in the future because it would be more believable for a woman. >GoT2 was originally described as "Assassin's Creed Brotherhood but better in every single way" and would feature Jin moving farther inland and training a group of warriors to operate like him to strike fear into the Mongols. >GoY may feature sections where you play as Jin in order to reuse assets from GoT2's development. >GoY's ending will apparently "piss people off," which may imply that Jin is killed or otherwise pronounced unsuccessful in a flashback. >If GoY's reception doesn't improve, Sony could pressure Sucker Punch into scaling back content - or maybe they'll just charge the usual $70 USD and expect the name to sell it.
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>>1022398 >GoY's ending will apparently "piss people off," which may imply that Jin is killed
>>1022027 I have a constitutional right to high-capacity assault slurs.
>>1022398 I hope Sucker Punch gets fucked super hard. >the acronym is literally GoY Now this is LOL.
>>1001087 So did you guys see the rumors about Tencent buying Ubisoft and taking the company private? https://archive.ph/wip/QBNPK
>>1022768 Better chinks than jews.
>>1022768 >buying ubisoft So the basically the chinks decided to throw away their money down a blackhole.
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>>1022398 >GoY Really says it all doesn't it?
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>>1022768 I doubt it's going to happen, Ubisoft was selling itself to the highest bidder and nobody wanted to buy. Everyones waiting for them to collapse so they can scratch up their intellectual property for pocket change just like Sieera and THQ.
>>1022768 Better them than me. If the chinks want to waste money on something thoroughly ruined that's on them.
>>1021804 I call bullshit on the idea that Trekkies don't identify as general nerds. There might be some sort of rivalry with Star Trek nerds, but I'm sure they all identify as the same general subculture as them, as well as D&Dfags and early vidya and whatever else you can think of. And I'm even talking in the '70s, when these things were not at the point they are now, with a bunch of hipsters and SJWs claiming they're part of the group just so they can destroy it.
>>1022773 >>1022837 No really. They will be getting the few workers who actually work, and a lot of assets and IPs. Then use all of it on new games, probably full o gachashit, and which the chinks will buy en masse. They won't even use the name Ubisoft. In that regard, they will have access to a lot, for very little money spent. Also, maybe this: >>1022775
>>1022978 >I call bullshit on the idea that Trekkies don't identify as general nerds. There might be some sort of rivalry with Star Trek nerds Do you see Trekkies and Star Trek nerds as different or did you just fuck up the sentence?
>>1023061 he meant Star Wars nerds
>>1023061 I did mean Wars, but also there is that thing about Trekkies vs Trekers.
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>>1022398 If that contractor part is true, it would explain much. Ubisoft want the representation but said people don't actually have the skill set to make a game like GoY, so they have to contract it out to people who can who make higher wages than these guys do. They're essentially paying double for contract work and keeping talentless people on staff. And they only have themselves to blame for getting into this mess.
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>>1023114 There is no true "unity" among Trekkies these days as the whole group has become so very fractured between those with taste, those who just consume whatever garbage CBS just shits on their place, those who prefer a singular specific era of Star Trek over all others, and those who are just surface level nerds that think JJ Trek was the best shit.
>>1023158 >There is no true "unity" among Trekkies these days as the whole group has become so very fractured Same with gamers
You goddamn pieces of feculent shit, you "gay-murz," look at what you've made Ubishit do. Have you no shame, you animals?! https://archive.fo/3mrbh You refused to purchase a game about a nog nogging it up, now Paree is on fire because of you miscreants.
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>>1023509 Y-YOU FUCKING GAYMERGAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAYS
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>>1023509 I AM SORRY MONETIZATION DIRECTOR SIR ILL BE SURE TO BUY EVERY UBISOFT GAME FROM NOW ON!!!
>>1023509 That archive link isn't working for me. Can someone screengrab the article?
>>1023256 Gamers are a small minority of people who buy video games. Which is a problem. But Star Trek is more like the TV version of the Sonic fandom. The fags who guy whatever the latest bullshit is. The ones who are nostalgic for their specific favorite era. The group that just wants to draw porn of aliens. And the production company behind it has no idea what the identity is or how to cater to everyone because they have no way of actually doing that anymore, which just ends up diluting it further when they invent some new era that will find new fans and add another faction.
>>1023524 Here you go anon.
>>1023509 Good. My money, my rules.
>>1023567 Does anyone remember how, a couple months back during the summer, Ubishit said that they were going to spend more time developing games. What happened?
>>1023570 >>1023567 Jewsney's PR said the same thing (remember the 27 years of Star Wars movies contract?), only to be silenced by the sheer amount of boycotts that forced them to stop producing the movies completely and admit defeat. Boycotts work.
>>1023545 Nobody actually watches Nu-Trek. I heard one time some viewer numbers leaked and it turned out that Red Letter Media videos about Star Trek were getting more views than the actual new TV shows. Sonic, say what you will, is not as bad as nu-Trek. Even Sonic 06 was at least trying to be good but failed. It wasnt bad on purpose. Arguably the movies are, but fixing that one model really bought them a lot of goodwill with casuals.
>>1023546 Cheers anon. Sounds like the usual backpedaling after their smear tactics failed, now they want to be all about love and peace. Get fucked. Go woke, go broke.
>>1023573 The way I understand it is that 06 wouldn't be that bad if it weren't so damn buggy. That's what kills it.
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>>1019051 Desperate, your turn. >>1019069 Desperate. >>1020838 Desperate. >>1022398 Desperate. >>1023567 Desperate. >>1023546 DESPERATE.
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>>1023604 DESPERATE
>>1023584 Sonic 06 is just obviously in an unfinished state, content complete for the most part, but not polished. There is the occasional broken scripting on a loop that will cause you to die if entering stuff like a loop at the wrong angle, but I'd say it's the overabundance of Loading that's far more egregious than any glitches the game has. If you can get passed those issues, or play one of the fan creations that fix and improve the games issues, then you'll find the design on paper is what you'd want from that Adventure era of 3D Sonic. Some people can appreciate the ambition of what 06 is going for, and others can't get over the glaring flaws.
>>1023509 The retarded suit, in his natural habitat. Unable to comprehend why everything around him is on fire. "M-muh racist gamers", he lashes out. Cope, dumbass. LMAO
>>1023567 Stop direct linking to the Gaymer https://archive.fo/BQjs9
>>1023546 Literally >Why aren't you buying our slop racists
>>1023573 The Sonic and Trek movies have racemixing in common, between the Spuhura pairing in Into Darkness and the white cop and black veterinarian in Sonic's movies.
>>1023772 Somehow the new Trek shows are so bad they make the reboot movies look good by comparison. At least the third one admits Spock dating Uhura was stupid, so they broke up off screen between movies explicitly so Spock could not race mix and get with Vulcan bitches to repopulate his species. Of course Spock is the product of racemixing in the first place, so I'm not sure how well this argument works anyway.
>>1023852 Is the third one worth watching or as shitty as the others?
>>1023899 Fans seem to agree it's the best. They say it feels more like an extended episode of the show, rather than the first two being... whatever they were. So it's not a classic or anything, but it's the ones fans like the most or dislike the least.
>>1023634 No thanks. It has furry/racemix fetishism with that girl kissing Sonic. >>1023679 >The retarded suit So, a jew. >>1023903 It is still star trek. So it is probably shit, not worth watching.
>>1024009 >No thanks. It has furry/racemix fetishism with that girl kissing Sonic.
>>1024128 Amy is made for BIG SONIC COCK.
>>1024009 Doesn't Eggman say Trump lines?
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>>1024173 >"It's time to Make Mobius Great Again!" <"Yeah right, more like Make Cream Gape Again." >"WHAT!" <"What?"


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