>>1086108 What the fuck is going on with Nvidia? Why hasn't the 5090 flooded the market?

>>1086116 Not following the dramas too close. Could it be Artificial scarcity? I don't believe 5090s are a hard must at the moment.

>>1086118 Well their stock price dropped significantly as a result, they should stop doing that and just do a proper launch of the damn cards. It sucks because the FE is the only 2-slot flagship on the market.

>>1086116 >>1086118 As far as anybody can tell, Nvidia basically didn't ship any. They had what's known as a "paper launch" and probably kept everything for bulk B2B sales. >>1086123 Their stock price decline is due to two things. >AI improvements in China and elsewhere >tariffs

>>1086133 >>AI improvements in China and elsewhere The funny part with that is that the China improvements (at least the ones I heard about and that caused dips) were on the software side. Far from being some kind of competitor to Nvidia, that Chinese AI would still be run on Nvidia hardware. If anything, it should have made their stock go up, not down. But investors have no idea what they're investing in.

>>1086155 On Nvidia hardware but not the 50,000 bucks per card hardware explicitly made for it.

>>1086116 Short answer: Because The RTX 5090 is actually a cut down version of RTX 6000 Pro that released last month, which they can charge 3x the already insane price of a 5090 for to data center customers. https://www.techpowerup.com/gpu-specs/rtx-pro-6000-blackwell.c4272 https://www.techpowerup.com/gpu-specs/geforce-rtx-5090.c4216

>>1086116 >didn't actually make any >overtly lied about the specs of this and other cards You expect people to buy that shit?

Reminder: The configuration of 80 class GPUs relative to the flagship model has sunk below the 70 class of previous generations. So the 5080 isn't just a rebadged 5070. It's slightly less than that.

>>1086116 lithography is hard m8, lotsa failed prints

>>1086212 So pretty much the 5090 is the only real improvement of the 50 series?

>>1086116 Because Nvidia is too busy sucking off AI.

>>1086155 The major difference is that Deepseek doesn't use Cuda, it uses something called PTX which in theory is GPU agnostic. (obviously nvidia is still the best vendor for the job right now, but there is no longer a vendor lock in).

>NVIDIA Makes PhysX & Flow GPU Code Open-Source https://archive.ph/FPkBc

>>1086721 I wonder if this means if modders can port PhysX to AMD/5000 series

>>1086722 Time will tell.

>>1086722 Probably not, it's only the x64 stuff iirc it might make things a bit easier but that's it.

>>1086311 Will we ever Illustrious on PTX, or is being locked to CUDA an inherent part of how SDXL and variants are built?

>tfw still using my old 1080 founders edition from 9 years ago Thank goodness there are so many games with low requirements and optimization mods

>>1086797 t. eternally 1080p

>>1086908 While I'm not him, I vastly prefer better performance over more pixels. When you double area the volume increases quadratically; when you go from 1080p to 2160p you're increasing the monitor's pixel count from 2,073,600‬ to 8,294,400, greatly diminishing your performance. This is why so many devs resort to DLSS and frame generation to maintain frame rates even on high end hardware.

>>1086908 1080P 120FPS > 4K 24FPS

>>1086908 Even with a 5090 you're still eternally 1080p since it's just 1080p upscaled unless you want a slideshow.

>>1086925 4K was only pushed to sell TVs, Sony pushed for "4K gaming" to sell more TVs and consoles and retards fell for it.

>Robot Horse >inb4 degenerates https://newatlas.com/automotive/kawasaki-corleo-robot-horse/

>>1086925 If you play older games you can definitely do 4k 60, as even my Quadro M1000M (Professional Laptop version of the desktop GTX 750 non ti), can get games like Flatout 2, NFS Carbon, and the original Just Cause to run at 1440p 60fps.

>>1086721 In a previous thread someone told me they already did this. So was that a different "PhysX"? see: >>1073548 >To my knowledge Nvidia themselves dumped the entire PhysX source code into the public domain years ago, so with enough interest a reimplementation is certainly possible.

>>1086966 Literally the same thing. Fake horseshit.

I wonder why things like this stopped existing.

>>1087315 IT LOOKS HORRIBLE IS WHY

>>1087315 Where would you put the CPU coolers?

>>1087461 Double water cooler?

>>1087315 Why indeed.

>>1087461 Not sure those CPU's needed active coolers. Can't remember when that shit started, but I tihnk it was around the 486/pentium switch than you could get fans instead of heat sinks

>>1087490 Fire is heat leaving the CPU. It's actually a great thing!

Is there any reason to upgrade your graphics cards at this point? All the games Still rocking a 1050ti and I've been playing recently, honestly, don't require much and the games that do run fairly well at 720p 30 fps. The only exception is MH Wilds and even then the game is poorly optimized as if the Pokemon Company programmed it. All I see is that modern GPUs just add useless features that make the image more muddy than it needs to be or break older games. Am I missing something here or I'm just retarded?

>>1087527 Pokémon Company handles merchandise. GameFreak is the "video game developer."

>>1087527 >Is there any reason to upgrade your graphics cards at this point? To play games above 720p and 30fps. >Am I missing something here or I'm just retarded? That or you're pretending to be.

>>1087527 It depends on how much you’re itching to play new shit. If I’m gonna update, I’d rather build a whole new rig from scratch and keep my old one around to avoid compatibility issues with older games. I put my current setup together in February 2020, and I don’t see the point in upgrading since nothing coming up really interest me. I can emulate anything from MAME to PS4 and play pretty much anything that has been released to date. No reason to waste my time with "the current thing". Only reason i would like to get a new rig AI stuff.

>>1087532 >It depends on how much you’re itching to play new shit. The only new shit I want to play is MH Wilds and Stellar Blade. But at the same time I heard Wilds isn't all too great while Stellar Blade could run with my current setup. ATM, been playing a lot of PC-98 games such as Rusty and Touhou 2.

Thoughts on Razer and Framework stopping the sale of laptops in the USA?

>>1087315 It was fucking garbage, not sure it's the specific one but I messed around with the Asrock LGA775 + Socket 939 daughterboard thing way back and it was by far the worst mobo for either socket, granted wasn't many VIA chipset anymore at the time (for good reasons, those always sucked massive dicks) >>1087490 They did, wasn't really possible to get big passive rads at the time, single tower coolers were still the apex of cooling besides super sketchy DIY custom loops

5080 ti might be a thing.

>>1087584 Wait, seriously?

>>1087585 There's a chance but since AMD has fuckall to counter above 5070tis I don't see why Nvidia would bother

Appears Zotac accidentally leaked it on their site before taking it down.

>>1087608 Well that's kinda retarded

>>1087527 Honestly, even when i upgraded from my 1080 TI it wasn't struggling to play most games at 1440p 60fps. I managed to snag an EVGA 3090 TI for $700 a few years ago. Even at ultrawide 1440p it doesn't break a sweat on anything ive thrown at it with the exception of UE5 slop i tried during nextfest. The only stuff not capable of running okay on affordable hardware is shit that you probably don't want to play anyway. Im not sure whats more retarded, the fact that my gpu is worth more now than what i paid two years ago, or the fact that people defend new slop games requiring card this powerful to run without upscaling to be even playable, despite looking worse than games from 5 years ago.

>>1087530 >To play games above 720p and 30fps. I play some games at 5120x1440 with a GTX 980. I don't know why you'd think any of this shit is necessary.

>>1087700 <slop I hate to be the vocabulary police, but there are so many words you could be using besides that one. >crap >bilge >filth >shovelware Just anything but that googoogaga.

>>1087608 There's a Grand Canyon sized chasm between the 5080 & 5090 since the 5080 is a 70-class card, so the 5080 Ti must be the actual 5080 (as it should have been configured). GN - GPU Shrinkflation: https://inv.nadeko.net/watch?v=2tJpe3Dk7Ko

What was the first iGPU that was able to run Quake 2 and Portal RTX at 1080p? I assume it was some random RDNA APU that was paper launched onto the Not-NUCs. And I specifically mention those two gaems because more optimizations have been found since 2019 or so and technically it's possible on a 1050, but pathtracing with 'dumb' denoising seems like a decent mark of performance.

>>1087787 Probably the 680M

>>1087711 >I play some games at 5120x1440 with a GTX 980 Cool. I can get doom to run at 12fps on a 3090. Thanks for your irrelevant and meaningless anecdote.

>>1087791 well, laa dee daa, Mr. Bigshot Moneybags. I can watch a 2 fps flip book animation of Doomguy doodled on the margins of a phonebook

>>1087791 How the fuck did you get doom to run at 12fps with doom?

>>1087807 NUTS.WAD

>>1087811 I liked reading the guy behind that being amused, if a little befuddled, at it becoming so famous.

>>1087811 I can play that at 60fps on my phone if I set it to prboom+, and my phone is a lot weaker than an rtx 3090. Do you have that rtx mod installed or something?

>>1086911 Agreed, dips absolutely piss me off so having it be stable is great

In terms of pricing this is probably the worst GPU launch ever. Prices were already retarded. GPU prices on Jewegg are now practically indistinguishable from scalpers. I mean SINGLE cards without their combo scams. Just SINGLE cards looking like eBay scalper prices from a mainstream PC parts retailer. Beyond that, GPUs are binned down to the point that an 80 class is a 70 class & a 70 class is a 50 class, as across the product stack the configuration of the full die is more cut down compared to previous generations. To top it all off, they'll blame China tariffs for price-hiking GPUs made in Taiwan. They jacked prices on card inventory that was not even imported DURING those tariff changes. Conclusion: all available GPU inventory is in the hands of scammers, be it scalpers on eBay or scammer retailers.

>>1088051 Not like theres anything new to play that's any good. Only upcoming things I give a shit about is an expansion pack for 3 year old game Bannerlord and a remaster of a 26 year old game with System Shock 2. Maybe Resident Evil 9 and Ninja Gaiden 4 if they're any good. Oh yeah, the upcoming fucking SRW game, a series that can run on a toaster.

>>1087527 >Is there any reason to upgrade your graphics cards at this point? If you're dropping $2k on sim racing perepherals, another $1k on a gpu to make sure gaems run isn't much, comparatively.

>>1088051 The pricing is only one part of the equation, the rest is even more infuriating especially with the prices >blackscreen unless you kneecap your GPU perf by setting older PCIe standards >"melting connector v2 electric boogaloo: we fixed nothing and made it worse edition" >driver crashes extending to older gens >perf power barely improved unless on a 5090 >availability is low even months after launch with little signs of improvement Even if you're somehow willing to get fucked by the price, the availability is gonna DP you and the technical issues will go for the spitroast. >>1088053 Literally only reason I got a 4080 was racing sims (like me some 1440 max details @ 120fps) >>1088063 >spend $2k on sim racing peripherals >get clapped out by a guy in his mom's basement with a $50 chink controller True story t. guy in his mom's basement

>>1088064 There is an assetto corsa mod that does make controller play feel better by modifying joystick input to not slip the wheels so much using relative steering or something, but to me the perepherals would be about having fun driving instead of being sweaty about races or posting meatspace photos on reddit. Half of the $2k is for a vr headset that hopefully gets a new iteration by the time I decide if I want to go through with it all and gpu prices cool down, but getting 3 new monitors and mounting brackets to replace my one curved VA panel would probably be close in price.

>>1088069 Yeah true wheel is pretty much just a comfort thing, I got way too used to controller to change now (even though I have a unused G29 sitting on a shelf) >, but getting 3 new monitors and mounting brackets to replace my one curved VA panel would probably be close in price. You'd be surprised, good fast 27" IPS in 1440p are well under $200 now, VA are probably even cheaper but cheap VA suck dick for fast motion. Though pretty sure you can get a good enough VR headset with OLED for cheaper than $1k if you look hard enough.

>>1088073 Yeah, just that the beyond 2 supposedly has extremely low latency and weight, and without ever having played VR I know I'd get motion sick from those two factors. As for the monitors it's mostly space constraints, the build I planned has a folding seat to mount the wheel and pedals to stow away in a closet, and the headset could fit in a pocket. If it were a hard shell seat I'd consider rumble on the back or underside of chair but the space efficiency of folding up matters more to me.

>>1088074 I wish we could see actual existing retail units & reviews of the Dream Air, but instead they're taking pre-orders for hardware that isn't even finalized in typical Pimax fashion. Dream Air should have higher resolution micro-OLED panels than the Bigscreen Beyond 2, in theory, but still 90Hz like BSB2 as I guess micro-OLED panels of that resolution cannot go up to 120Hz. Probably wouldn't get 120fps at those resolutions unless you're running games with potato graphics anyways. PDA also has inside-out tracking with no need for base stations like BSB2 & it includes eye-tracking for people who want that. I guess foveated rendering utilizes eye-tracking which you'd probably need when running games at that resolution to eek out more performance. Overall, it's a better headset on paper. Problem is Pimax has to deliver & their track record is being slow as shit to launch then not keeping up with demand.

>>1088087 Yeah it's why i hope for the beyond 3 by the time I have dosh since the 2 has the 1's panels with beefed up internals I think.

>>1087803 I don't have a 3090, I'm just pointing out that you can cripple any game with enough fidelity mods. And people that want to mod games and overcome shitty engine limitations with hardware, need better hardware. There are dozens of 10+ year old games that can benefit from newer hardware. I play games on a 1600x900 monitor because I'm too lazy and annoyed by the state of monitors to upgrade. It's fine to be content with low end hardware, but there are obviously reasons to upgrade beyond a 1080ti.

>>1088074 >>1088087 >>1088089 Speaking of, Optimum just put out a video on the Pimax Crystal Super. https://inv.nadeko.net/watch?v=6LQvwbciXxc

>>1088111 At this point I think the robot horse is more likely than good VR

>>1088111 I really like the modular chassis idea for that. would be a good way for them to stop making different fucking headset every year. But the biggest thing besides lack of decent games that keeps me from using my index more is that after about an hour it starts to become very uncomfortable with the weight on my face. If i ever upgrade i think the BSB 2 is the way to go. Or if valve ever releases the fucking deckard i might buy that. Hopefully we keep getting more good vr mods, the HALO: CE one was great.

>>1088281 Micro-OLED is looking like the better option for displays, just need better lenses. I have a pair of Micro-OLED not-really-AR glasses for watching videos at 1080p, but the optics are not the best so I can never seem to fully focus the top & bottom of the screen at the same time. >Hopefully we keep getting more good vr mods I've tried a few VR mods & contemplated buying VorpX, but my inner-pirate (or skinflint) refused to pay for the software. >Deckard That's looking like it'll be a standalone wireless headset that you'll have to stream compressed video to from a PC or else play games on its inferior internal hardware. I don't know how cutting edge Deckard is gonna be given how Valve's other hardware falls behind, including the Steam Deck. I think my next headset will be wired. I'd rather have the slight hassle of the wire to avoid video compression & any extra performance overhead to do it. Maybe if I get a newer video card with AV1 the compressed video to my VR headset will look slightly better, but right now I can tell that Into The Radius has a boiling effect in the air that I'm fairly sure is due to video compression artifacts. A wireless headset is freeing, but I don't know why none of them use the newer WiFi standard as it might allow better video. At least Pimax put out that WiGig adapter, but that shit drains battery.

>>1088111 My next one will probably be a Pimax Crystal Light, and even then, it's going to be far more expensive than the library comfortably justifies. Big part of the problem is that I already have trouble running a lot of games at native rez in my Reverb G2 - and these newer headsets blow it out of the water. Sure the extra FOV is nice, but not if I have to notch down the graphics even further and waste the potential of resolutions that high. If you're willing to pay that much for a headset, then you probably have a 4090/5090 to push it. For everyone else with a higher mid-range system or below, you're probably going to make some sacrifices if you don't want to be stuck in reprojection.

>>1088337 Vorpx was absolute dogshit when i tried it way back when to play Oblivion. So i don't think it would be a good idea anon. As for deckard, i was more interested in what Valve seems to be cooking up for wireless streaming from a Host pc to the headset. Theres a lot of speculation on what the second CPU in the headset is for, a major theory is to manage stream compression. That or handling the foveated rendering.

>>1087787 >>1087790 Skimming through some youtuber benchmarker guys, one did try stuff out with HL2 RTX with the 8700G & its Radeon 780M (RDNA 3) which was barely playable @ 480p with TAA type smudging. A similar if slightly better result came with the 7940HS when playing Minecraft RTX, unplayable at 720p, potentially tolerable when lowered. Another with Phoenix Point had borderline playable for Minecraft, Portal, and Cyberpunk, and a stable 30 for Quake 2 >680M was tested with Q2 RTX (or even q2vkpt) at the lowest settings/best specs >Most RTX versions/port forks not done by Sultim or that Lightspeed vanity studio Nvidia produced are most likely using RTX Remix which is functionally a more intensive version of ReShade/SweetFX/ENB, plopping moar code on top of the game itself. Quite literally software overhead. So it sounds like I'd have to wait one or two gens for AMD's stuff to become consistent enough to be solidly good (see also: Zen 1 APUs being slightly undercooked for laptops until becoming the good shit with Zen 3), or 4 years for Intel's lower end chips to catch up because buying expensive hasn't really worked out in my experience. It sounds like flagship Meteor/Lunar Lake both sandwich Strix Point but aren't substantially 2-5x better or worse. Just all around on the cusp of being viable with enough optimization and tweaking but again needs like one or two more years and so on.

>>1088373 IGPU are kind of always gonna lag behind for RTRT / RTPT because they have low VRAM bandwidth and that is a massive bottleneck for that specific use, granted I'd guess something like the Strix Halo with RDNA4 would be enough to handle quite a lot of titles with RT (would be in the ballpark of a laptop 4070 which really ain't bad)

>>1088376 Very true. The idea is that if a low-mid tier APU can at least run this stuff somewhat stable at 30fps, this could potentially let hackier raytracing soar to 60 or more. Alternate Universe Standard Definition shit.

Now that the 5080 ti all but confirmed it's the missing 80 series the 50 series lacked.

>>1088388 >Unless it has something like 16-18k CUDA core it's still not a 80ti card, and there's a decent chance it'll not even get more than a 10% upgrade in CUDA cores

Will this actually accomplish anything or will hand-rubbers continue pricing video cards to the fucking moon? https://archive.fo/4LhZ3

>>1088524 RTX 50 series pricing is from many factors and the tariff are only a small one

>>1088620 where da vidyagames?

BY BRIAN FAGIOLI After years of internal use, Ubisoft has open-sourced Chroma -- a real-time colorblind simulation tool. This accessibility software is designed to help developers better serve the 300 million people around the world who live with color vision deficiencies. Originally developed in 2021 by Ubisoft’s Quality Control team in India, Chroma allows developers to simulate how a game looks to people with various forms of colorblindness -- all without slowing down performance. It works on both single- and dual-screen setups, runs with customizable overlays, and responds to hotkeys for easy toggling during gameplay. Unlike some accessibility tools that require exporting footage or interrupting workflows, Chroma is designed for live use. It overlays a simulation filter in real time using the Color Oracle algorithm, allowing developers to interact with their games as usual while seeing exactly what a colorblind player would experience. Ubisoft’s own accessibility team has been using Chroma internally to fine-tune its games, and now it’s inviting developers everywhere to do the same. “Accessibility is a journey, not a race,” said Ubisoft’s Director of Accessibility David Tisserand. “We’re excited to see what the industry does with this.” Chroma is available right now on GitHub. Thankfully, Ubisoft isn’t locking it down behind a paywall or making it exclusive to its own titles -- this is a free tool meant to help anyone that can benefit from it. SAY HIS NAME

>>1089292 sorry forgot archive https://archive.ph/l4syK

>>1089292 Fuck inclusion.

>>1089292 >>1089293 Doesn't a basic understanding of color theory make such a tool pointless?

>>1089292 Rarely posted but always a treat when done so

Story time, 2 days ago I found a second gpu for my secondary PC which uses a gtx 960 for only $5. I being the retard that I am decided to follow my dreams of younger me and buy it to try out Sli for the first time. I have not but one game that I play regularly get an increase in fps so now I understand why it died. Here is a list of the games I played. Test Drive Unlimited, the only game that saw an fps boost.which was decent, I could play it with graphics mods at 1440p and stay over 60fps Team Fortress 2, Maybe a minor increase but within variance Morrowind (Yes this has sli support), worse fps by a lot Need for Speed Carbon, Less than half FPS with sli enabled Dragons Dogma Dark Arisen, Less than a quarter fps Flatout Ultimate Carnage, Worse fps with Heavy stuttering Also a weird one here, was playing Enter the Gungeon and I noticed it was using both gpus however it doesn't give any performance increase though

>>1089387 iirc ubisoft titles had fairly good SLI support, as did the TR reboots for some reason Many titles you need to fuck around with SLI compatibility bits in Nvidia profile inspector to get any fps gain. Also could've been that your secondary PC was too much of a potato, especially if stuck on PCIe 2.0

Can I ask for a bit of tech support? When playing "demanding" games, my display cuts out and I can't do anything but restart the PC. I use demanding loosely because so far Forgive Me Father 2 and FF Origins Stranger of Paradise have caused this problem. Death Stranding and Turbo Overkill sounded pretty "demanding" but the PC was fine for hours. I tried driver updates already. Cleaning my PC had me remove the card and put it back. So those two are off the table. Its completely fine on older and easier to run games, as well as browsing and the like. Temps are always low and fine. 3070 Ryzen 7 3700x 16GB RAM Firecuda 510 1TB

>>1089495 Have you tried another display output? What's your PSU? Have you tried on a fresh install?

>>1089513 I have dual monitors, one HDMI and the main one DP. Both go out when it happens. Corsair CV650 I'm too lazy for that stuff but I might have to. The weirdest thing is my brother had a very similar PC, only difference was a 3070Ti and he had the same problem when playing demanding games. We tried different stuff with his monitor too and none of it worked.

>>1089527 Oh yeah forgot, Nvidia has massively fucked up drivers recently for anyone on 30-50 series, rollback to 55X.XX if you need to Other than that I can only see PSU being flaky / bad or bad cables (but having both a DP and HDMI cable die is very unlikely). Could also be a dying GPU but it's usually more apparent than just blackscreening.

I though I had made a good deal buying a cheap AiO from ebay with literally just the mounting hardware missing, little did I know how fucking wrong I was when I thought that shit was easy to find, I'm starting to be out of ideas short of literally making one myself.

>>1089581 have you tried contacting the manufacturer?

>>1089537 So I did DDU and rolled back to 555.99. Reinstalled Forgive me father 2 and ran into the same problem. Upon restart I got a weird error after the BIOS load up. Taking out my DP let it boot up fine to my second monitor (on HDMI) and then I replugged the DP, it is also now fine. Its only when my PC is working hard, can a DP cable really crash both my displays and require a restart?

>>1089495 here you go anon I asked the computer, good luck PSU: 3070 + 3700X can strain a weak or aging PSU. Make sure it’s 650W+ from a good brand. Try another if possible. Undervolt / Power Limit: Use MSI Afterburner to drop power limit (90-95%) or try a mild undervolt (~850-875mV at ~1900MHz). Helps with stability. Event Viewer / Reliability Monitor: Look for crashes or driver errors right after reboot. Could give clues. Cables / GPU Reseat: Make sure GPU is fully seated. Use separate PCIe power cables if possible. RAM Stability: Run MemTest86. Try disabling XMP to see if stability improves. DX12 vs DX11: Some games crash more in DX12. Try switching if the game allows. Driver Cleanup: Use DDU in Safe Mode, then reinstall latest NVIDIA drivers.

>>1089694 >can a DP cable really crash both my displays and require a restart? It can have a bad contact making the GPU freak out and crash yeah Also yeah you can try lowering the power limit a lot and see if it still crashes, if lowering the power limit stops it then it's either the PSU or GPU, most likely the PSU, Corsair CV ain't exactly great.

>>1089485 I doubt its a potato, its got an i5 6500 overclocked to 4.4ghz because I never updated its uefi and 16 gigs of DDR4 somewhere around 3000mhz cause bclk fucks with that. It does support pcie gen 3, though the motherboard splits it unusually at a 16x/4x lane instead of the normal 8x/8x.

>>1089908 >>1089712 I'll be honest after the last attempt and getting a glitchy screen on boot up I'm a bit scared to troubleshoot. Maybe when I'm brave I'll try again. Thanks anyway anons.

>>1089978 >glitchy screen like visual artifacts? sounds like a dying GPU what are you afraid of though? literally just be there when the machine is on

>>1088051 It's worse. Good old Linus Sebastian, inventor of linux, took his millionaire ass to malaysia and they're still charging $1400+ for 5080s there, with no tariff memes or other justifications. The stores showed in the video had actual tons of 5070s, 5080s, and 5090s right there on the shelf. Everything is just scalp city. Makes me glad I spent too much on a 4080 Super (open box special, cost less than the 3080Ti I was replacing) a month ago. It's not like upgrading is going to be possible for a long while anymore anyway,

>>1090345 I'm fucked since I'm already n the middle of building a new rig.

Any other 9070 XT missiles here?

>>1090345 You mean Linus Torvalds? Sebastian is ltt man

>>1090388 Nah, Torvalds is the tech tip guy. :^) one of the rare few fun shitposts from modern cuckchan /g/

>>1090400 >one of the rare few fun shitposts from modern cuckchan /g/ Nah

>>1090373 I run a 7900XTX

>>1089690 Yeah, that was 2 weeks ago actually, answer is nope they won't give it unless I give proof of purchase (the OG one not the ebay one obviously), they do sell an AMD bracket on their Aliexpress store, but as luck would have it I need the intel one Though shit came in the mail today and so let's greentext >bought a bunch of similar looking brackets and a cool backplate on a watercooling website to hopefully make that shit work >first is way too large to fit >second one from Corsair is almost there but not thick enough and the inside hole is too small, leaves me a few mm off >last one almost fits perfectly but the inside edges are too rounded so the screw holes are slightly too spread apart >decide to file that shit down, because why the fuck not at this point >it fits >start mounting everything >it's the super jank build with literally everything being weird shit (not the best idea in retrospect) >BGA to LGA 12900HX >BIOS modded PRO Z690-A DDR4 >Power limit removed 1080ti with an aftermarket cooler >sketchy RAM from aliexpress that claims to be Nanya Adie (basically Samsung Bdie but slightly worse) >sketchy as fuck PSU for now because nothing else on hand >get to booting up the new build for a test run >doesn't boot >forgot the RAM >still doesn't boot >forgot the CPU power cable as well >still doesn't boot >AiO runs great now though since it can settle down a bit instead of locking in at max speed >clear CMOS >no luck >BIOS flashback that shit >still no luck >dismount everything thinking I might have in my great stupidity put the CPU backwards >turns out I didn't and you can't >but notice 3 bent pins in the socket >eyesight too poor to deal with that and no microscope on hand >test everything I can separately, down to CPU or mobo >have a spare DDR5 board but no DDR5 >don't have spare LGA 1700 CPU >buy those things because what the fuck else am I gonna do at this point >120 bucks + tip I'm now cockblocked and upset

>>1089292 Nice it exists, though I wonder what the motive here is. Normally when big companies (that don't normally rely on open source) open source stuff it's either A: so obsolete it has no commercial value B: they can't be assed to maintain it and see FOSS devs doing it as an out for claims they abandoned it C: It's a ploy to get everyone on their standards./tools Maybe some devs saw the writing on the wall and realized their part of ubisoft is going to be killed off and realized "made this useful internal program" will be better on their resume than "made internal software you've never heard of at dead company and can't say is any good"? >>1089387 >Morrowind Does OpenMW have support? Doubt it though.

>>1090046 After the initial BIOS screen, before reaching Windows, the screen went black with some artifacting. Switching to my second monitor only fixed it. I'm scared of further troubleshooting bricking it totally.

>>1091954 Sounds fucked.

>Played Recently >Serious Sam Classic Revolution Stopped playing mid way through the second custom map because I got too annoyed from the fucking monster roster at the later water section. >Coromon Still on the section where I need to find a cripple in a fucking cave with barely any light, light source is only from a helmet. Hate this shit. Stopped playing also because I wanted to go to sleep but couldn't due to caffeine overdose. >Strafe Got annoyed by the fucking slow player movement which makes it hard to dodge shit and lack of any text that tells me what x does what. I even thought the weapon switch buttons got broken since at the start there were 3 weapons and I was not aware I can pick only one from them. Looks like it is inspired by doom but it plays fucking absymall. Not sure with Serious Sam anymore, I just don't have the patience anymore for bullshit designs that serves only to make me more frustrated. So I am trying to get back to Vintage story instead, can't remember anymore what the fuck I did back then. The mod page won't let me filter through game version which sucks because fireshit complains about broken network protocol when I try to filter through version and the general search function sucks because I tried to find some mods related to light and torches so it's not so fucking anal and found only 1 mod which through some crafting supposedly gives me infintely durable torches. I am really annoyed that the night time is dark as shit and that torches doesn't last forever, so lightning up each torches again takes fucking forever, what a great design. And I am really more annoyed with the lack of any arcade styled combat mods instead of being realism based. I am not in the mood to learn C# just to make Vintage Story more bearable. I guess later I will stream some Luanti modding instead because Lua is much easier to work with. Though I do wonder if there is any good site for hosting mods so that I can get away with shit, I am not to keen to host once my mod has more content to upload it on the official content db site.

What distro should I pick for gayman? I only downgraded to Windblows 10 due to new hardware not working natively with Windows 7 and being in a pinch due to work. Should I go with Mint since that's extremely user friendly? Or should I just wait for SteamOS? Please don't rec me shit where I have to use a terminal instead of a proper GUI.

>>1093733 >Please don't rec me shit where I have to use a terminal instead of a proper GUI Anon, stop being retarded and learn basic Unix commands (cp, mv, cat, ls, cd, etc.), Unix+ commands (sudo, grep, etc.) and package managers (especially dpkg+apt). Linux is not a graphical OS like Windows is. The GUI is an afterthought. If you rely solely on that, you'll inevitably be disappointed. Mint is the best distro. Use that.

>>1093733 Mint is a decent choice >SteamOS SteamOS is literally just Arch. You want to install SteamOS right now? Install Arch, then install Steam, then run Steam. Congratulations, you've installed SteamOS.

>>1093083 >why switch? Win 7 support getting kneecapped by all sides. It was the perfect OS and if I didn't need to move I never would have. >>1093733 >terminal instead of a proper GUI. Unfortunately that is linux. Learning how 2 terminal isn't hard but it is a process. Every distro in this post will require terminal. Mint, popOS, unironically ubuntu are all top pick options. Pick the one that most appeals. Move to another one when you feel like it. If you're trying to just play vidya, waiting for SteamOS is perfectly valid as well. I'm considering moving to SteamOS for my desktop and I've been using Arch for a couple of years now. >>1093764 I wouldn't agree with this exactly, but SteamOS really is a modified Arch. I'd imagine SteamOS will have preinstalled/preconfigured shit that will attempt to make your system more "standard", to be more proton-friendly (as is the point.) If Anon is considering Arch in general as a newbie, EndeavorOS could be a pick for this. I don't recommend it because I use it. I would have just used Mint/PopOS had I known what I know now. Arch is a pain in the ass and is really unstable, but that's the deal you get for state-of-the-art shit.

FYI, the tech board is >>>/t/ and not >>>/g/

>>1093798 >I'd imagine SteamOS will have preinstalled/preconfigured shit that will attempt to make your system more "standard" Yeah probably, but it's not as if there aren't multiple guides/forum posts for what you should install for ideal linux gaymen and once you learn how to use your package manager that doesn't really differentiate it very much. >Arch is a pain in the ass and is really unstable I also use EndeavourOS (although I'm debating on whether I should switch to CachyOS) and before that I used Memejaro and honestly, if you keep up-to-date with which packages have bugs/security vulnerabilities you can just wait to update your system and everything will run just fine. Since you mention EndeavourOS, the welcome screen when you boot your computer gives you notifications when an important package is fucked which links you to the Arch website letting you know exactly what the problem is. Then just keep an eye on it until it's fixed, update, and boom you're all set. I've never had my system get fucked to the point of being unusable while using an Arch-based distro. >that's the deal you get for state-of-the-art shit For me it's also the AUR. It's honestly incredible how much shit is on there. Sure, I still run a lot of Appimages, some Snap/Flatpaks too but I use so much shit from the AUR that's just so convenient to be able to install from the terminal just like a regular package.

>>1093762 >Anon stop being retarded I wish I could >>1093764 >SteamOS is literally just Arch No difference whatsoever on the backend? Asking because I want ro run away from command lines. >>1093798 >Unfortunately that is linux Fuck, just using FFMPEG makes my peanut brain go haywire

>>1093910 >No difference whatsoever on the backend? On a Steam Deck you can literally choose to enter the actual desktop that's not the Steam overlay and it's just Arch with the KDE Plasma DE. I'm not entirely sure what SteamOS adds on top of a regular Arch install since I don't own a deck, but anything it does can just be installed normally. >Asking because I want ro run away from command lines. Anon, I'm sorry because you seem like you genuinely want to make the switch, but no matter what distro you choose, from the most new-user-friendly to fucking Gentoo, at some point you WILL have to use the command line. Wanna know something though? One good thing about Linux is that if you have a problem, chances are you're gonna be able to actually find a solution by searching for it. Unlike Windows, where you run into some issue and all you find from searching Jewgle are posts with replies like "have you tried updating your drivers?"

>>1093910 I've been using linux for years and FFMPEG makes my brain hurt as well. Nothing on the terminal even gets remotely close to jamming 999 variables in one line to process a video in ffmpeg.

I made the full switch to linux around 2 years ago. I always wanted to do so because I preferred linux a lot to windows for everything that wasn't gaming, it's just really good and comfy, but I couldn't let go from the fact that gaming is so much more convenient and faster in windows. The Steam Deck actually changed my mind in that and I'm glad for it. But I would be lying if the experience doesn't range from "mild inconvenience" to "why is this so miserable" at times just because I chose to do it. I love linux, and I do enjoy my system (currently running CachyOS), but goddamn some stuff is so unnecessarily annoying to do. Modding games, playing stuff that has a launcher that isn't easily transplantable to steam, some anti cheats, and there's even some random performance loss here and there. It sucks, but I like the OS enough to stick with it.

Will Kubuntu with KDE desktop run fine or are there some issues with it? I want to switch from Xubuntu to a different distro with KDE desktop. RAM shouldn't be much of a issue since I have 32GB of it now.

>>1093083 I've been wanting to play Stalker Gamma via the guide on github and I already downloaded the launcher through the AUR and downloaded Anomaly and the Gamma files. I just know fuck all about Lutris and adding DLLs to wine prefixes and all that jazz. I'm no power user by any means and I just proton shit and follow directions and that usually works for a good majority of the games I want to play from my library.

Ironically, Gentoo might be the best platform to play games if you have older hardware. The performance gains you get from using software that’s been compiled for your chipset are unnoticeable on a new computer. But on an old computer, every little bit adds up quickly and makes all the difference. Suddenly your OS and background processes are no longer eating up all your ram or cpu usage, so they can be used for games. But, well, if you’re playing on old and underpowered hardware, you’re still limited in terms of what games you can play. Me, I’m just using retroarch to play old JRPGs these days.

>>1094045 I'm not particularly interested in Gamma so I can't say for that game specifically(or its installer for that matter) but I've had WAY more luck playing non-steam games through Bottles than I have with Lutris. Although with all the progress made with umu https://github.com/Open-Wine-Components/umu-launcher I'm optimistic that running games outside of Steam will be just as seamless as it is inside of it.

>>1094024 >Move from Ubuntu to Ubuntu Am I missing something, anon?

>>1094082 This looks pretty cool. I hope that project goes far. Also, I've looked at some more tutorials on youtube apparently someone made a tutorial for installing Gamma on Linux, but with Bottles instead of Lutris. I'll probably be able to get this shit working one way or the other anyway.

>>1094114 It means I want to use KDE desktop instead of XFCE desktop. XFCE feels like ass and despite its being light weight is not exactly free from bugs. I just need to order some USB sticks then I can do the switch.

>>1091954 If you're still willing to try stuff, try what happens when you switch plug type (aka whichever monitor was plugged with DP you plug in with HDMI nd whichever was HDMI you plug with DP) It's unlikely but you might have a faulty or dirty port on one of the side.

>>1093733 There is no perfect distro. Mint is the common beginner choice with the least issues. >Or should I just wait for SteamOS? No. Valve is a retarded company and anyone that expects them to release a well thought out desktop operating system is a retard. You're better off just actually learning how to use Linux. Mint is fine, but even if you avoid using the terminal, you're ultimately still going to have to actually learn the quirks of the operating system. You'll have to understand how to install things into a wine prefix, learn that a prefix is essentially an emulated windows file system so you grasp where your config and save files are ending up. If you're expecting a drop in replacement for windows where everything is super obvious and a one click solution you'll just sperg out and call Linux shit. >>1093762 >learn basic Unix commands (cp, mv, cat, ls, cd, etc.) None of this teaches you anything about Linux itself. The times you end up needing mandatory terminal usage are almost never related to navigating directories and copying files. You will need to "learn the terminal", but not in the way people tend to think you do. >>1093764 >You want to install SteamOS right now? Install Arch Yeah don't do that. >>1094024 I mean it's just ubuntu using KDE. It should work the same as Xubuntu with a new DE. If you're familiar with Ubuntu then go ahead and use Kubuntu.

>>1089932 Well I have bad news, as the $5 gtx 960 died yesterday which makes me wonder if the poor sli performance was an indicator of it dying.

>>1097179 >I mean it's just ubuntu using KDE. It should work the same as Xubuntu with a new DE. If you're familiar with Ubuntu then go ahead and use Kubuntu. Alright then I just need to get the USB sticks. I thought KDE would look better overall like having more features and such compared to XFCE desktop. I can't really recall anymore any major issues I had with Xubuntu since I installed it, most of the time it just works for me, asides from thunar occasionally crashing on me and some pictures not getting rendered. Maybe I can also try to figure out if I can add more space to my root partition when I am installing Kubuntu. I looked at other KDE distro whose name I can't recall and one of them doesn't support propiertary Nvidia drivers which sucks.

>>1097583 I doubt there's any distro's that you can't install the nvidia drivers on. KDE is generally the ideal DE since it's highly customizable, bleeding edge with features like HDR support/VRR, and the defacto windows like experience.

>>1097713 Found it, it was KDE Neon. https://neon.kde.org/faq#nvidia-support which is based upon Ubuntu LTS 22.04 and supposedly has no custom configuration which according to them means it should have the same vanilla KDE configurations of other distros.

>>1097740 That's sort of a weird testing distro, not really a proper real one. But the proprietary drivers probably work fine on it, they just don't want to deal with people asking for support.

Whats the point of Flatpak if that program install programs in the root partition where root usually has less drive space available compared to main partition? I tried installing Luanti through Flatpak and it stopped working because out of disk space error. Also for some reason it wanted to install nvidia drivers.

>>1098259 Flatpak usually installs things into the home directory IIRC. I usually don't separate home and root partitions so I don't need to worry about that.

What is your distro of choice for gaming? Mine is CachyOS, after some time on Nobara, I finally made the shift and enjoying it a lot.

Moving to the PC thread

>>1098333 legit never had any problems with arch >>1098259 yeah you can pick user installs instead which will install it in $HOME. don't know if there's any way to switch system installs to other directories.

>>1098333 I've only used Nobara, and will probably be switched to stock fedora next since it's mildly annoying to have to occasionally check the reddit for commands to fix to repo every month or two.

5070ti vs 9070 XT? Gimme the non-shill answer

>>1099031 Look up benchmarks, divide price by frames. There's your value. Adjust decision based on if you need or want vendor specific features (DLSS, CUDA, AI software compatibility, etc). The value of a card depends on the prices in your region at any given moment. No one can tell you which GPU to buy without knowing the prices you're working with. Generally speaking AMD cards are better raw value ignoring software quirks and DLSS. If you care about features that are specific to nvidia cards then you buy them because you're shit out of luck on AMD.

Are my homies still alive?

>linux >games

Can we have av1 webms in here?

>>1099842 Wow, we actually can! And there's 50 MB filesize limit!

>>1099821 Quack Hampions

What Linux distro do I use?

Usually loonux gayming goes within the PC hardware threads, but sure, it could have its own thread. >>1099966 For most new Linux users that answer is Mint. Don't fall for the Arch meme unless you actually know what you're doing, most users coming fresh off of Windows will be very frustrated by it. But don't jump head first into Linux, install it on a VM and play around with it an hour per day for a few weeks. Being able to fall back onto Windows will save you a lot of hassle, and you'll be much more likely to actually stick with Linux instead of reverting back to Windows at the first frustration.

>>1099031 Considering some people are having the XT beating 5080s, I'd go with that. But the legacy of FSR3.1 looms over AMD sadly.

>>1100043 I already used Linux (Ubuntu) for a while way back in my desktop ricing days when compiz fusion got popular because of le desktop cube thing. It almost bricked my new GPU back then because unlike Windows it didn't auto detect the GPU had changed and fall back into generic drivers but instead tried to use the old GPU's drivers. Anyway, couldn't I create a new partition from the free space in my Windows drive and install it there?

I'm preparing to reinstall linux right now actually. Windows has been terrible, and the only thing I'll lose is being able to put a funny image on my lcd cooler. I hope having an NVIDIA gpu now won't give me issues.

This shit gets even more ridiculous every minute Also, FINALLY I can make webms with proper bitrate.

I might as well change my webm script to accommodate new limits and start recording sound

Thoughts on SteamOS? I feel like it's good to use as a home theature instead of the Seam Big Picture and auto login setup with windows.

Yuri chads, we're eating good >>1100043 >Don't fall for the Arch meme unless you actually know what you're doing, most users coming fresh off of Windows will be very frustrated by it. I dunno, I think archinstall will great experience ootb, I surprised how little is there to configure to get a working system.

I come to these threads every time praying for a game to be posted. For once someone actually did the impossible.

>>1100661 Don't! Use either Bazzite or CachyOS: both have steam-gamescope session support

I've been seeing the 5080 in stock again here in leafstan.

Aside from DRM/anti-cheat infested games, what games, that work on modern Windows, don't work fine on Proton after a minimal amount of setup?

>>1100677 Dunno what are you talking about, every Linux gaming thread is full of gaming webms, I make sure of that

>>1099821 Any books on learning more about linux? I want to learn more about permissions, command line, and generally how the operating system actually works.

>The 5060 Ti is also shit I'm getting kind of tired of this, I miss when x60 tier GPUs performed on par with or nearly on par with the prior generation's x80 tier GPUs. At this point the 5060 Ti doesn't even compete with the 3080 from TWO generations ago, let alone the 4080. Even at baby resolutions like 1080p

>>1100693 Thanks anon.

we already have a similar tech thread >>1086108

WTF why are they merging Linux gaming threads in here? How are these topics related?

>>1100773 > want to learn more about permissions man chmod >command line google: bash spreadsheet >and generally how the operating system actually works. ChatGPT/Deepseek

>ToTK 1440p 120fps @FBI @CIA @POTUS

>>1100779 that's because nvidia moved down their product stack by about two tiers. In terms of silicon size the 5080 is actually a 70 card, the 5070 ti is a 60 class card, and the 5070 is xx50 silicon. If they weren't jewing the naming scheme then the 60 ti class card would be about the same as a 4080 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2tJpe3Dk7Ko

>>1100773 Pic related

>>1100662 >I dunno, I think archinstall will great experience ootb Archinstall is notoriously buggy as fuck and in my experience has never worked when encrypting your drive.

>>1099821 I never posted in 4cuck Linux threads but alright.

>documentation says there should be an option to resize my current Windows partition and install Linux without wiping everything >option isn't there We're off to an amazing start, lads.

>>1093818 Why? Was /tech/ abandoned?

>>1101926 Yep. No new post since 2022 and it's been locked to prevent the CP spammer from planting pizza on the site's inactive boards to shut it down.

>>1101777 Dual booting isn't something you should bother trying to do, especially on the same drive. Windows will nuke your boot loader for Linux with updates constantly. Either use a separate drive or don't even bother.

>>1094407 Right, but why not just install KDE? I've never used Ubuntu variants but is that not the option?

>>1101777 >Even trying troonix at all. Have fun with your cock and ball torture you choose for yourself but you really should grab a rando drive to try out troonix instead of dual booting off the same drive. >But I can't afford another drive! Then you can't afford to play with troonix.

>>1102122 >extremely simple procedure goes wrong >puts additional burden on the user to know how to do things in an alternative, less user friendly way >first reply is "ummmm you shouldn't be doing that anyway" It's heartwarming to see that in 2025 the Linux community remains committed to delivering the most abhorrent user experience conceivable.

>>1102884 I couldn't care less whether or not you use Linux. I'm telling you that dual booting is something that is bound to have issues. That isn't a defense of the situation, or some sort of condescending remark about how you should already know this information. Linux is shit, I don't care about whatever the fuck you think a "linux community" is. I'm not here to convince you to use an operating system you insufferable cuckchan faggot.

>>1102884 Don't worry. It will get worse! >The arrival of FOTM distros shilled by ecelebs for "gayming" (bazzite, chimera, pop, etc) means documentation is never going to align to older ubuntu/arch centric guides. >Said FOTM distros also tend to completely redesign everything in ways much worse than windows does every 4-7 months, all the way down to changing package managers. >The freetard community was already bad, but it's getting far worse with the flood of steamies thinking they are l337 h4x0rs for browsing leddit on steamOS. >Gnome is going full windows with asinine choices, KDE may be following suit. >Systemd's cancerous presence keeps getting worse.

>>1103204 You forget >single developer distro maintainer gets bored or dies and you need to reinstall your OS

>install nvidia's linux drivers and now my 2nd screen isn't detected Lovin' it.

>>1103204 Do people even shill PopOs anymore? Also, since when is Chimera a FOTM distro?

>>1103288 NOVIDEO

Gaming on a server OS? Is this some cuckchan meme I'm not aware of?

>>1103204 this was always gonna be the end result once troons took over the core distro's and even wormed their way in to the linux foundation. Linus is a coward who let them do it, it's only a matter of time before linux is as bad as windows but with less compatibility.

>>1103431 >, it's only a matter of time before linux is as bad as windows Honestly? It kinda is already there. Basically the only distro that isn't shit is arch and only for the sole reason that you can manually build it without wasting your time autistically recompiling from scratch. And even that is a dying thing due to all the possible choices being shit or turning to shit. The year of the linux desktop was around 2021 and it's been a disaster ever since. I'm just sick of all the bullshit, at this point I just caved in, installed windows 11, ran a debloater script, and called it a day.

>>1103558 Notice how no one that says shit like this ever bothers to specify any actually software changes that allegedly made the software worse. It's always just some nonsensical babbling about feelings or culture. Hope cuckchan comes back online soon for you guys.

>>1103601 Show me someone that daily drives linux that never had any package issues (especially these last 2 years) and I will show you a liar.

Is CachyOS better than EndeavourOS for a beginner? My friend is dead set on using something Arch-based >just use Arch I understand the sentiment but he's convinced he'll fuck up spectacularly

>>1103634 I don't even know how to parse "package issues". I have plenty of issues with Linux, I have even more every time I need to interface with a windows machine. The notion that Linux is getting worse while game compatibility is currently at an all time high and major features like HDR are getting proper implementation from Valve is comical. You can not like or want to use the operating system. But this hysterical rambling about trannies driving the software into the ground is just an excuse for you to use the operating system you're familiar with and like more without sounding like a cucked faggot.

>>1103700 >Muh gayms. Some people aren't children and use their computers as more than glorified consoles anon.

>>1103669 Yes, it's pretty hand holding. t.use CachyOS as it's first experience with Arch

Blackwell is complete trash, but imagine the prices on 2nm 6080s.

>>1103714 Once again, incredibly unspecific.

>>1103669 Speaking from experience, you are better off using arch than any arch variant. If you fuck it up, fixing it with a wiki dive is relatively simple. If you fuck up an arch fork, it may get fixed with a quick wiki dive, or you may be utterly screwed.

>>1103714 >posted on /v/ - videogames Yeah, 4chinz can't come back fast enough. You cancer need to leave. Nobody is going to think you're some form of applause-worthy adult for repeating some bullshit your 60 year old parents say.

>>1103714 Nigger you're on /v/, come on now

>>1100773 >books You got the internet. Follow along something like this https://xnacly.me/posts/2022/linux-for-powerusers/ Then use google. Just be prepared to do some tinkering, maybe don't 'rice out' your machine and keep it with defaults first

>i9 9900k >rtx 4070 >32 gb ram >4 tb ssd im not upgrading for a long while, hope this takes me far, so far its been serving me well (even on linux)

>>1103714 Almost like this is the fucking video game board.

>>1104119 If the performance gains are anything to go by from the 50 series 40 series owners shouldn't have to worry for a while unless vram standards radically change but seeing as we're still getting 8gig cards I doubt it

8gb cards are obsolete at this point.

>>1105256 Tell that to nvidia

>>1098333 Was using nobara for a year. Good starting distro when I was ditching windows IMO. The nobara tools that they made for noob that need GUI were great, but I got annoyed with the little problems because of their development, especially because of nvidia patches when I was using amd. Finally said fuck it and installed arch, so now I can satisfy my OCD too. Slapped cachy repo and kernel and it's been doing great. Now at least know what the fuck did I do when something break. >>1098547 Someone with same sentiment I see >>1099966 Don't use debian based distro (like mint) if you are gaming, especially with newer games and newer hardware. At least use fedora based. Bazzite is rock solid immutable distro, you need to go out of your way to screw it up. Nobara is good out of the box gaming distro with GUI tools if you want tinkering a little bit. CachyOS if you want arch based distro. >>1100145 Nvidia still has 20% linux tax on dx12 games performance sadly, but it's getting better if you have 16xx gpu or newer. >>1103669 CachyOS has more things set up out of the box. Whatever you choose, read the wiki for the respective distro first. At least on cachy, it's layed out neatly. >>1103924 On thing I learn from installing arch manually is just follow the wiki. I tried following someone's guide doing custom shit but the maintenance was annoying as fuck and I regret it. But the wiki could be better if it lays out the installation guide better. As a noob, I didn't even know which information was essential to the process right then and which one was optional. Hell, sending me to another page was already confusing because most of the time, the context's lost. I guess what I'm trying to say is for noobs, the wiki is not clear or retard proof enough. It IS good and very helpful though, now that I have a bit of experience and know how to process it.

>>1100841 yeah if someone asks what GPU they should buy it really does kinda muddle the waters

>>1106894 Mint is fine for gaming and relatively modern hardware. In my experience is requires the least configuration out of the box compared to something like Fedora which has oddities where they by default use their own flatpak repos which ship with some broken packages. It's easy to fix if you know to use the flathub repos instead, but someone that has never used linux before isn't going to be aware of that. At least in the newest version of Fedora KDE they have toggles for enabling the non-free repos, which before required command line shit to get basic software enabled. I want to lean towards stock fedora as a default recommendation for everyone, but I haven't gone through the fresh install experience recently enough to recommend it with any confidence. But it's probably the best thing for brand new users.

>>1102729 Not since my root partition is full now, can't install shit to root anymore. I have a 4TB HDD for my /home/ partition and a 1 TB SSD for my games and root partition. Bleh I am too poor to buy new hardware right now, my recent purchase was a 32 GB Stick from Jewmazon, fuckers shipped me first fucking wrongly labeled 16 GB sticks and had to wait like several days till I got my correct 32 GB sticks.

>>1107421 It's a it's work until it doesn't scenario IMO. While it's not much, there's non trivial problems that is a problem on mint while it's already fixed upstream. And it's not always easy to get the latest packages. Mostly on newer games/features/hardwares though. While I agree using base distro and set it up yourself is better in the long run, most new linux users won't have the know how to mantain it. I'm not sure how it is now, but base fedora used to be a pain in the ass with their non free shit. That's why nobara always check for media/codec fuck up in their updater. I'll recommend bazzite because it's immutable, set and forget distro. And you can easily rollback if there's an error, or even rebase the whole thing to base fedora atomic if you don't like it.

>>1107442 Fair enough, friend. I can't speak for Ubuntu's quality, but Plasma is pretty great over here in Fedora so I imagine you'll be fine.

>>1107421 The Ublue distros (i know the dev hates this term but that's literally what this shit is) are great if you can stand the immutability. They do all the tweaks you'd want to do to a stock Fedora Atomic install and go even further if you install Aurora/Bazzite/Bluefin. Gamers likely want Bazzite.

Henlo is this the pseudo /pcbg/ bread?

>>1107794 i was about to ask the same, looks like /t/ has nothing close to it

>>1107845 It's pretty much /tech/.

>>1107666 (satan trips) Xubuntu doesn't have some of the anti features that OG Ubuntu has like Jewmazon search but it does have Snap and I think Firefox is the only program that got converted into a snap package. Since fucking Firefox got converted into snap I get constantly annoying pop up that I need to restart my browsers for the updates to apply which is bullshit. I am seeking to look for another browser, brave may be good I guess I wanted to switch to that already but the problem is I cannot take advance of their BAT to see it myself if its even worth it going to the trouble of seeing ads again for the sake of earning some meme coins, doesn't work anyway because they have some fucking retarded wallet services where they don't allow Germans addresses (I live in Germany) Honestly I am not really impressed with XFCE. I used to run Linux Mint before as my very first Linux distro, I switched to Xubuntu just for the sake of trying out this one. It sucks that Linux Mint doesn't offer the KDE desktop environment anymore else I'd would be using that instead.

>>1107632 >>1107729 I've never used an immutable distro. Can you even install packages on them outside of flatpak? They sound retarded and pointless. It's also a trap to recommend niche distros to new users because the projects likely won't last more than a few years. As far as I'm aware there are very few tweaks you would need to do to a fresh fedora 41 install.

>>1108210 there's like four ways to handle packages >rpm-ostree (very slow and needs to reboot, mostly used if you need some system component the distro didn't come with like firmware) >flatpaks (not that bad anymore if you invest into them) >containers >brew (macfaggotry but if all you care about is getting a few CLI utils, whatever)

God, I can't wait until NVK is good enough to replace Nvidia's proprietary driver on Linux. For so many reasons. Fuck Nvidia dragging their feet implementing any basic functionality whatsoever and breaking shit every driver update.

What are some good programming IDE for Linux that supports GDScript, Python and Lua?

>>1108210 That's the thing though. It's retard proof. I myself don't see how I will like it, hell I even goes out of my way to install arch manually. But your fresh out of windows users will complain about every single things, so being retard proof is a blessing not a curse.

>>1100935 What's your CPU? Great performer!

tell me why I shouldn't buy the EasySMX X10 right now

Because 8bitdo exists.

>>1110059 i see

>>1110059 Man, I love using the m30 when playing fighting games. Dpad hurts my finger when I'm trying shit like the pretzel motion. This thing, though, is perfect.

>>1109938 I'm rolling with a scuf envision pro. >but the price It was gifted to me. Honestly it feels great in the hand but the software feels like huge bloat. Haven't had any stick drift issue in 7 months but when I first bought it the software showed some bugs with it, thankfully it got fixed.

Why are most apps on Mint software manager available as flatpak or system package but only flatpak is up to date?

>>1111228 >mint You already answered your question

>>1109938 Because the Gamesir Cyclone 2 is better and cheaper >>1110059 >god tier Nah, not with those mushy sticks and triggers. I really need to finish up that gamepad chart

>>1111228 Flatpaks aren't provided by Mint, and are updated whenever the maintainer of that singlular package decides to because they don't care how you're running your OS. Since they run in a sandbox they don't really care if your system software is much different. A flatpack will work the same on Mint as it does on Arch as it does on Gentoo. The downside of Flatpaks and other types of packaging systems like it such as Snap are that they can have issues working with other software you install because of their sandboxed nature. But I find them convenient for software that isn't provided in my distro's repo. Packages provided by a "stable" distro like Mint, Ubuntu, or Debian Stable are usually settled at release time and only updated if needed for security or a huge bug or some other major reason. This is to keep it "stable" so people know what they get every time, and devs who make software for it can ensure it works every time on Distro XYZ 2025. If you want more recent things installed natively, rolling release distros like Arch or Manjaro will provide the most recent packages they feasibly can, but this can be a bit tricky to handle if if there's some issues that sneak through. But it isn't that hard if you don't value your time.

>>1108293 I just ended up using PajeetSoft VSCode instead, seems like that's what every mom and their dog are using it for cooooooding.

>>1102884 Windows boot manager being literal malware isn't Linux's fault.

>>1103669 CachyOS is a great choice, it has a lot low level settings for better performance, same defaults and stuff

>>1109938 Why not Vader 4 Pro? It's pretty damn good.

>>1110059 I need to buy one of those I got an ultimate but the dpad position just isn't good for 2D games. There's a rumour around that they're developing a Pro 3 and I'd like to wait for that.

>>1112123 Vader 4 Pro is great but the fact that you need the software running at all times if you use macros is a big downside, some anon here had issues where it got all fucky and pressed random shit as well.

>>1108293 Vim Emacs

>>1108243 >>1108338 Yeah, so it's as retarded as I thought. What you've described will result to new users default using flatpaks, which is not ideal as a large portion of flatpaks are not published by the original developers, but by random volunteers. Not all of them are verified as trusted publishers of software. It feels like immutable distributions get pushed as a "secure" platform by people who don't know the first thing about opsec. <but you can't break them lol Your average new user isn't doing things on their machine that will brick their install, this is a complete non-issue.

>>1112303 I already settled down with VSCode, whatever.

>>1113836 these days i think flathub actually has a spare, "verified only" repo

>>1115783 They do have verified software, but a lot of software that is just in a normal distros repo's is on flathub but not verified. You're always better off getting your software from official sources. And the average new user isn't going to have the wherewithal to understand that.

It's really funny that Linux users kept holding not having a centralized package manager against Windows but Linux software management has become such a clusterfuck.

Console ports on PC that are optimized for AMD already run better on the 9070s than any nvidia card bar the 4090 and 5090, if nvidia withdraws from the gpu market as they seem to have and AMD becomes dominant, after which devs start optimizing for AMD cards then nvidia is totally fucked if they ever need to get back into the gpu business.

>>1118030 Framework is also releasing push button pre-built SFF PC's usinga niche AMD APU that have about 4060 performance.

UFD Tech went from being among the most useless influencers to selling out in a very sad way. >Nvidia hasn't sent me a card. :(((( >Why are people mad about a 5% uplift? Looking for a reason to be mad. The RTX 3060 to superceded the 2080 ti back in the day, if so remember correctly. What a stupid way to end your 'career', but thank God for Blocktube.

>>1118140 The 3060 ti**** I meant.

>>1118140 >The RTX 3060 to superceded the 2080 ti back in the day, if so remember correctly Nah, the 3070 claimed to but only because DLSS / RT and in reality the 2080ti shat on it since games using more than 8GB VRAM started popping up.

>>1118338 https://technical.city/en/video/GeForce-RTX-2080-Ti-vs-GeForce-RTX-3060 https://technical.city/en/video/GeForce-RTX-2080-Ti-vs-GeForce-RTX-3060-Ti But VRAM-wise, yeah. Inferior.

>>1118452 That benchmark has compute and RT, which is why the 3060ti looks any good here when you remove those things the 3060ti is 25% slower

You know what's not fun, repairing bent pins in an LGA socket.

Any difference between the DPAD on the 8bitdio pro2 and the 8bitdio SN30? gamepads?

>>1121069 Nope.

>>1121206 Thanks, guess I'll go for the Pro2 You wouldn't happen to know of any gamepad with a DPAD similar to the one on the DS would you?

>>1121248 Nah doesn't really exist on good third party stuff sadly. But some controller have microswitch or mechanical Dpads which some do prefer.

>>1121560 Damn shame >But some controller have microswitch or mechanical Dpads which some do prefer. Got some examples, been on a 2D binge and I feel like getting a gamepad just for that as to not blister my thumbs.

>>1121641 8bitdo Ultimate 2C (maybe the Ultimate 2 as well but I've not tested it myself) Gamesir Cyclone 2 / Tarantula Pro Flydigi Direwolf 3 / Vader 4 / Apex 4

>>1122759 Ultimate 2C is membrane though anon I'm holding one right now!

>>1121248 They dont seem to make DPADs for people who press around the edges anymore. It's all pivot centerpress shit. I wonder how rare we actually are. >>1122759 The ultimate 2 does not have a tactile DPAD. It is an improved version of the sn30.

>>1122781 I'm holding one right now as well and that shit ain't membrane since it clicks like the shoulder buttons

Opinion on the 7800xt ? Is it worth buying for 500 dollars?

>>1124313 See>>1099189

>>1124341 Well I don't need minor image generation, so I guess this card will do. Probably a good upgrade from 750ti

>>1123439 Guess I'm a retard Thanks!

>>1124313 theres no such thing as current gen cards around that price so if thats all you have, and need soemthing right now its probably a good idea and price thing >>1124341 is right, research a little more the only rule i would add >16gb vram minimum, no matter what brand/aib theres a reason jewvidia doesnt want 8gbvram 5030ti reviews out there

>>1124398 I wouldnt say 16gb is the minimum unless you have a 4k monitor. 12gb does just fine. But this incidentaly ends up being true for Nvidia because all of their GPUs with less than that (except maybe the 4070 line) are not worth buying.

>>1124398 Well the 5060ti is around that price, but everyone says it's worse than the 7800xt

I consider myself extremely lucky to have built my PC during black friday 2023 sales, got a 7900XTX and a 7800x3d abd 128 gigs of ram for ~$2500

>>1124852 its way worse than a previes gen one, of course its a given anyone should avoid that card

>>1124313 The upcoming RDNA4 cards will be a better use of that kind of money imo RDNA3 just kind of sucks dick. >>1124852 Can get a 4070 for 500 and that's a better card

Is there even a point to upgrade from my 3080? Shit code not utilizing the hardware seems to be the issue more than the hardware itself, extremely rarely is my GPU or CPU ever above 50% utilization unless I just uncap frame rates for giggles.

>>1125210 Nah

>>1125210 I don't think so, I think until you are hardware locked from being able to play a game at decent settings and a playable FPS that I would stretch it out as long as possible. Unless you are an autist playing counter strike or similar at some super competitive level it doesn't matter all that much.

>>1124919 You're set for the next decade, easily. $250 a year for a video game and major work machine is effortless, anon. Good on you.

>>1124464 Anon, the future exists. Games are only going to get shittier and bloatier as whites are forced out of all tech industries. You need 16 GB, minimum, on a new card purchase for the sake of future-proofing.

>>1125273 Or you can just not play shitty modern AAA video games.

>>1125331 You also want power efficiency and hardware overhead for work and multitasking, anon. Few people have the luxury of an entire PC dedicated solely to video games.

>>1125331 you sure have a lot of faith in the average developer no one should buy a gpu now with less than 16gbvram if he plans to use it more than a year

I'm still happy with the rig ended up building back in January >AMD Ryzen 5 7600X3D CPU >Nvidia RTX 4070 Ti Super >4TB WD Black SN850X SSD >32 GBs of DDR5 RAM The only thing I'm really questioning myself on is the 7600X3D CPU (should I have waited until the stock issues that the AMD Ryzen 7800X3D and Ryzen 7 9800X3D had cooled off?) and the RTX 4070 Ti Super but the latter part has proven itself well.

>>1125402 >you sure have a lot of faith in the average developer I have faith in the known entity that is games in my backlog. I buy GPU's to play older games at higher resolutions, not to play modern trash.

>>1125210 I've found a couple places where having a 4080 is a good thing, but yeah a 3080 is good enough if you don't feel like a game you play often could be running better or don't wanna upgrade your monitor's resolution.

>>1125757 I run 1440 right now, 4k is nothing but a meme anyway.

I wonder if the 5080ti will be the card to save the 50 series?

>ctrl+f poorfag >no results What a comfy jeetless thread.

>>1131950 There's one retard that occasionally goes on a shit-posting spree about how linux is for poorfags, but he only does it once or twice a year.

Earlier this week, I deshrouded my XFX SPEEDSTER SWFT 309 AMD Radeon™ RX 6700 XT and zip-tied two NF-A12x25s to the heatsink The card still has some idle coil whine which has no business being as annoying as it is (it clicks all the time pretty much like a geiger counter) but at least it's a lot quieter when actually under load

>>1100892 Cool GPU. Proud owner of it despite my CPU is subpar.

>>1134963 >The card still has some idle coil whine which has no business being as annoying as it is (it clicks all the time pretty much like a geiger counter) but at least it's a lot quieter when actually under load You could try thermal putty to mitigate the issue, some do wax / pastidip but that's sketchy when it come to thermals, putty should also help while not making thermals an issue.

>>1135548 >thermal putty That does sound a lot safer than glue. Thanks for the great suggestion

I have a gainward 3090, it runs too hot and throttles at 80C. Will repasting it help?

>>1086797 I sold my 3090 recently and am using an old gtx770. It turns out that playing either 2d or older 3d games is still fun.

>>1136126 Changing the thermal paste is usually unnecessary unless your GPU is really old or if you're pushing the shit out of it. Consider first checking if the fans are properly working and clean everything up.

>>1086108 WHY THE FUCK CAN'T I BUY A 9070 XT FOR A RESONABLE PRICE

>>1132458 >how linux is for poorfags Which is funny because India is the most linux-loving country of all.

>>1140712 >>1136126 It's possible it will help, 30 series that come from the COVID era had all sorts of factory fuckups and bad paste and / or thermal pad application is one of them, another possible issue is that your Gainward GPU is the lowest end model of the brand and what's throttling the card isn't the GPU / VRAM but the VRM because they undersized that shit on their lowest end models.

>>1136126 Try applying a TPM pad, they are the hottest meme now for high end GPUs

>>1136126 Also if you're not sure what to do here' some video of a guy doing a basically perfect repaste + thermal putty job on a 3090, don't do copper shims they're marginally better but also very easy to fuck up in a way that breaks your GPU permanently. https://yewtu.be/watch?v=TLZSv_U46b8 Can also recommend >>1144744 if you don't mind the expense, it'll last forever and will be easier to apply so long as you use the correct method (which is putting the pad in the freezer for 30 minute to make it harder and less sticky)

>>1088373 There are AMD and Intel mods for some of those RTX demos. https://gamebanana.com/mods/512627 And apparently someone made one for the Steam Deck of all things. https://gamebanana.com/mods/522333 But what ticks me off the most is that 'influncers' refuse to use Optiscaler with Half-Life 2's RTX mod. There's no excuse. Only thing people have posted online with it is one random screenshot on Steam of testing XeSS. But apparently someone got FSR3 working without Optiscaler. I understand this app supports FSR4. Useless to me as I have a 3070 ti.

Hello anons, I have a question. I'm kinda living in the past with a single monitor setup at 1080p, said monitor is also about to die. So I need a new one and definitely want to go for a dual monitor setup. Now the question is, what resolution? (I won't go for a high refresh rate I don't need that) Honestly? I think 1080p would still be enough for me, but with DLSS you basically get free resolution upgrades no? So shall I get a dual 4k setup or could that cause problems I'm not aware of? I'm into older PC games and retro games, that could be tricky at times.

>>1148275 DLSS quality depends on your generation of graphics card. Dual 4k shouldn't cause any issues. Monitors are a lot more complicated than just resolution. There are multiple panel technologies with various features and issues. You should probably just study videos on this channel to get an understanding. https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCDKLZBNM9XZ7pHPZF9D8xDQ

>>1148275 >Now the question is, what resolution? Gonna depends almost entirely on your GPU >(I won't go for a high refresh rate I don't need that) That's pretty gay >but with DLSS you basically get free resolution upgrades no? No DLSS is blurry shit, do not fall for the meme >So shall I get a dual 4k setup or could that cause problems I'm not aware of? Not unless you're rolling some very old GPU But for games you probably will have to run it at 1080p to get a decent enough framerate unless you're rich enough to be a 5090 owner. Get some office IPS monitors with 75 / 100hz refresh rate in 1080p, it's good enough if you don't want anything specific and play videogames, you can go 60hz but honestly not worth it when 100hz is way better and basically the same price usually The ASRock CL25FF looks like a decent choice for a pair of monitor > There are multiple panel technologies with various features and issues TL;DR being get an IPS until OLED is either cheap enough you don't mind changing monitor every 5 years or they fix the burn in which they still have not >but muh VA blurry shit, if you wanna watch movies get an OLED TV >but muh TN Literally no point anymore unless you want 240Hz+ >but muh OLED >but muh burn in prevention tricks Unless you're okay with paying $700 for something that will be irreversibly and visibly degraded within 5 years you do no want OLED currently, nothing will prevent that, the current tips that are floating around are just to avoid getting it completely fucked in a few months, it won't stop long term degradation unless you play at absurdly low brightness.

>>1148399 >DLSS quality depends on your generation of graphics card. Dual 4k shouldn't cause any issues. >>1148619 >Gonna depends almost entirely on your GPU I just bought a 5070ti. I think I'm going for a double IPS setup, the question is just whether I go for dual 1440p or 4k.

>>1155924 It seems like a 5070ti can reliably get 60fps or close to it at 4k, so 4k might be worth it if you don't care about higher refresh rate gaming. Though most people would probably recommend aiming for high refresh rate at 1440p.

>>1155988 Can't you abuse 1080p with integer scaling on a 4k monitor and get the best of both worlds? Or does that look terrible in practice?

>>1155924 >I think I'm going for a double IPS setup, the question is just whether I go for dual 1440p or 4k. 1440p honestly, with a 5070ti it's pretty much gonna be fine, and maybe you'll have to DLSS a bit for very recent stuff with RT. >>1156177 >Can't you abuse 1080p with integer scaling on a 4k monitor and get the best of both worlds? Or does that look terrible in practice? Some monitors fuck it up, but if they don't yeah that's pretty good actually >>1155924 >It seems like a 5070ti can reliably get 60fps or close to it at 4k With DLSS or sacrifices sure otherwise no

>>1157500 I'm too lazy to look into it any deeper but this video appears to benchmark it at above 60FPS average for 4K games without RT. https://youtu.be/UMPK1SeMEZM?t=733

Anything adjustment or changes? My first PC instead of laptop.

>>1157581 Well yeah no RT is the reason why it can do 4k60, kind of weird to buy a 5070ti and not do RT though. >>1159274 Replace that SSD with a Crucial T500 besides that nothing worth touching up.

>>1160084 I never assume RT as a default when talking about the performance a card can output. But DLSS from what I understand scales much better at 4K than lower resolutions because it had significantly more data to work with. So 4K60 RT is probably not outlandish with the assistance of super sampling tech. I've only heard of frame generation having particularly bad artifacting, and you can simply not use it. Though I have no hands on experience with any of this jewvidia nonsense.

>>1121641 Scuf Envision I think the cross dpad is overrated and strongly prefer the "hybrid dpad" on the Series controllers, so I got this for my dpad centric gaming. Overall I am very happy with it, but using it for longer sessions causes my hands to get a bit cramped due to the shape, but that's a totally subjective thing - some people seemed to like the DS4 but that wrecked my hands. Mechanical switch dpad, face buttons, 2/4 back buttons, side buttons, and triggers if you switch them from analogue.

>>1160387 >Scuf Envision >$130 >no hall effect Nice ewaste

>>1159274 Correct me if I'm wrong, but I think cooling that CPU on Air is not recommended.

>>1160514 ~$60 on ebay. You hall effect niggers are frankly tiresome - yeah, sure, it's nice, but it's not the be-all-end-all like you brainless faggots keep parroting. I still have my consoles back to the Genesis, and the only controller I have had issues with is the N64, but that analog stick has a myriad of issues. Stop being a 70IQ brown retard with your electronics and they might actually last. Moreover, the person I was responding to was looking for a dpad-centric controller for 2D gaymin, and I am of the personal belief that the controller I shared would be best for his interests, due to the dpad being front and center - and also, if it's being used for dpad-primary purposes, your wicked ghoul, the spectre of stick drift, is hardly an issue. Unless you have anything productive to say, I strongly suggest you stop being a whinging retard.

>>1173755 The 9800x3d is very easy to cool, people have used it in air cooled ITX builds.

>>1173755 Aircooler on the 7800X3D wasn't much of an issue, on the 9800X3D it's a bit more of an issue since it boosts way higher and can use a lot more power but you're not losing "that much" by having it on air, and to be perfectly fair unless you're going custom loop + direct die there's not much to be done to tame that thing. >>1173948 > yeah, sure, it's nice, but it's not the be-all-end-all like you brainless faggots keep parroting You literally cannot prevent stick drift on modern potentiometer sticks, and since they've built them progressively worse over the years (and there's only one manufacturer left) you can't expect them to last 5-10 years without major issues like you could with a DS1. I've had a brand new dualsense from Sony last 6 months before drifting to a degree where deadzones isn't a good fix (btw that isn't covered by warranty), it's not a matter of "treat it right" it's literally broken by design, even the chinkiest shit I've bought didn't have those kinds of build quality issues. If you are willing to spend any sort of money over $20 on such a technology you are a retard no matter what excuses you come up with. >~$60 on ebay >secondhand controllers >secondhand potentiometer stick controllers >for $60 Please refrain, not only the guy might have skeeted on it but on top of that you don't even know how he treated it, at the very least Corsair isn't a complete dogshit company so maybe they'll refurb it for you for not too much (maybe even transfer the warranty). >Unless you have anything productive to say, I strongly suggest you stop being a whinging retard. Says the person spilling his post purchase rationalization all over the place.

>>1175656 35-40 degrees idle 60-65 load with a thermalright phantom spirit

>>1118030 >if nvidia withdraws from the gpu market as they seem to have This is dumbest post I've read all day.

>>1175913 He means consumer GPU market, which is pretty apparent when you see how little of a fuck they gave for the 50 series

>>1176046 They give no fucks because they've got like 80% of the market share and they can release $2000 GPUs and still sell as many as they can manufacture. If their shit ever stops selling, they'll care again.

>>1177893 You're under the impression that the consumer market is worth giving a fuck about, your impression is wrong, 95% of their money comes from enterprises.

>>1177929 So? As long as it makes money why leave a couple extra billion on the table?

>>1177995 They don't WANT you to have that level of computing power. You're cattle. Would you give a farm animal a gun?

>>1177995 That's so long as making AI shit means the leftovers can be made into consumer stuff, which isn't a given.

>>1178015 If they don't do it someone else will. >>1178021 Again, so long as it's not losing money there's literally no reason to not stay in the consumer business. Not to mention diversification is the name of the game for companies seeking economic stability.

>>1178071 >Again, so long as it's not losing money there's literally no reason to not stay in the consumer business If that was true they wouldn't have killed consumer Tegra and I can see you coming with "muh switch" the first one was recycled Shield TV leftovers at first then they relaunched production the Switch 2 is a cut down AI devkit

>>1176046 I don't think Nvidia will ever completely leave the consumer GPU market, but for the next 2-3 GPU generations they will absolutely continue to do the bare minimum on the consumer side while continuing to charge a premium. I'm hopeful for UDNA and Celestial / Druid to claw back some market share and light a fire under Nvidia's ass so they stop neglecting gaming so much.

>>1118030 Stop being dumb. The reason why games optimize for Nvidia is because money, contracts, deals between MS, Nvidia and the studios. it's not true for every single game, but a lot of them do have some preference or deals with Nvidia going on. Hate it all you want, but Nvidia cards are still the best cards around, not even the most expensive AMD card holds a candle against a 4090. AMD needs to stop being cucks and start selling better hardware for people to use, then the shift will happen, thinking that Nvidia will just leave one of their biggest markets is just dumb, they won't, Intel hasn't and they are constantly close to bankruptcy

>>1178574 The deals exist because nvidia is most of the market. There is no point optimizing for a manufacturer who isn't in people's computers and with the 9070 vs 50 series sales, if it carries on like that, AMD will be the majority of the market.

>>1178431 The thing I'm kind of afraid of is if AMD manages to pull one over Nvidia is that they keep doubling down on the shitty pricing scheme Need I remind you that the 9070XT is a mid range card, for $600 MSRP? last time AMD did a midrange card because they couldn't do anything else it was $400 (5700XT), and the one prior to that $240 (RX480).

>>1178832 The deals don't need to exist with Nvidia being most of the market yet they do, in fact they existed when Nvidia was half the market 13-15 years ago. Strange, isn't it?

Nvidia has abandoned the GPU market and that's an undeniable fact. Ray tracing is gonna be relegated to some reflections here and there, neural shaders will never go anywhere and AMD will be 70% of the market if things continue the way they are. Devs are not gonna develop for cards that nobody owns.

>>1178926 >Nvidia has abandoned the GPU market >Nvidia has an 82% market share in GPUs and have been ~80% market share for the last 5 years. What the fuck are you even talking about. https://www.tomshardware.com/tech-industry/amd-grabs-a-share-of-the-gpu-market-from-nvidia-as-gpu-shipments-rise-slightly-in-q4

>Need moar VRAM Edition Can't you guys just download more RAM?

should I get a 5070ti or 5080? they're all selling for near msrp now I was originally dead set on a 9070xt but pricing was garbage and only now started to come down around the same time nvidia did so amd missed their chance with me, I don't see a reason to get one with all the nvidia features for only 50 extra bucks

If you're willing to pay 5080 money get the 5080 If you're considering the 5070ti but for some reason care little about RT get the 9070XT If you're not really willing to pay 5080 money but still want good RT then the 5070ti is the one

>>1179497 Nigger look at benchmark/reviews and figure it out yourself. There's no information an anon can give you that a channel like HardwareUnboxed or GamersNexus can't. And at least they get paid to do it.

What do you think will be a good, relatively (RELATIVELY) cheap GPU and CPU combo for playing Stellar Blade at 1080p 60fps medium settings? Yes I'm basically asking you to make an assumption on how demanding the game will be even though you can't possible actually know.

>>1180457 7700 / 13600k 4060ti / 9060XT, less if no RT.

>>1180457 apparently Shifty were working hard on making it run good on Deck, so take that as you will.

>>1179110 This is why I said the post was dumb: >>1175913 Pretending that Nvidia is leaving consumer GPUs while simultaneously holding total market dominance is detached from reality. Unlike you, I was too lazy to dig up an example of what I assumed everyone already knew. Now combine that with another reality: after the Nintendo Switch sold like crazy Nvidia is also making Switch 2's SoC. Any notion that they're bowing out of the consumer GPU market is lunacy. Whether anyone wants them on top is irrelevant. It's up to AMD to dethrone them by providing more competitive options & wishful thinking alone isn't gonna make that happen.

>>1180457 gonna need more info on what you think is cheap also 7060XT should be announced soon so can wait for that as well do you live near a microcenter if so can get decent deals on cpu/mobo/ram combos

Between Gigabyte, Asus TUF, MSI and PNY, which is the least shit brand?

>>1182257 PNY

>>1182283 really? they make the cheapest cards by far, what makes them good? was thinking about getting their 5080 without rgb, it's selling for 1,346USD after my shithole taxes, weak currency conversion and import. so basically actual msrp

>>1182450 >they make the cheapest cards by far, what makes them good? They're US based, you never hear about them yet they're still in business, they also are one of the very few OEMs trusted with making Quadro cards, their parent company is Palit which owns Gainward and Galax which are also generally great

>>1181011 Perhaps "leaving" or "abandoned" isn't the right choice of word, but "complacent" and "doesn't give a shit" are more appropriate ones. They are prioritizing enterprise over consumer because they want to pivot to AI, their inflated market cap is a result of this change in direction. Hell, to give you an example in another segment, Njudea tried charging a crapload of money to automakers who wanted their chips for EVs. The automakers logically fucked off, went to AyyMD, got the prices they wanted, and used their chips instead. That's like saying people are incorrect for saying the Playstation brand is cratering because people are still using their PS4s. True, but the Piss5 has objectively flopped, selling a lot of loss leading hardware did nothing when software sales are among the lowest ever as developers go elsewhere, and when the PS4s are deprecated, where could Playstation go? https://archive.fo/BXQYm The Blackwell launch was terrible and no amount of fanboying can dispute or downplay that.

>>1182257 in my experience, asus and gigabyte are fine. i'd avoid msi at all costs. never had a pny

>>1180590 Thanks niggy. I don't care about GAYtracing (lmao!!), so I guess I'll be good with a 4060 or rx7600 on the GPU side. >>1180647 Oh shit, really? Deck is actually what I play almost all my PC games on. >>1181140 I was stressing cheap relatively speaking because none of this stuff is cheap for my poor ass kek. I'll look into the 7060xt.

>>1182730 my msi mobo is working a lot better than the asus one it replaced make of that what you will

>>1179110 >Nvidia has an 82% market share in GPUs Come on. That's just old shit. Nobody cares about how nvidia used to dominate the market, the recent sales of 50 series vs rx 9000 sales says that AMD is gonna dominate the future. If nvidia doesn't change course then that's where we are headed. The 9070 XT outsells every 50 series model sold combined regularly. Everywhere where the numbers are available it's the same story: https://wccftech.com/amd-radeon-rx-9070-xt-records-10x-higher-sales-than-nvidia-rtx-5080-at-mindfactory/ Just because a bunch of steam users still flag as nvidia with their ancient 3060 tis doesn't mean nvidia isn't losing right now.

>>1184211 IMO, there would have to be more consistent trends indicating nvidia's downward trajectory. as it stands, there is just 1 poor generation launch (50-series) creating these issues. and there's a lot of bullshit (geopolitics, fab allocation, AI research, datacenter sales) that have been the culprit of the issues. AMD absolutely needs to keep their foot on the gas if they want to rout nvidia because there's a stark difference between competing and winning. this 90-series launch for them was also pretty rough because they clearly weren't prepared for the huge quantity of sales, not that I can honestly blame them. I'm looking forward to the JPR results for Q2 2025 regardless, should be eye opening. it'll probably leverage their capability of creating more inroads with System Integrators/Pre-builts moving forward, because I'm pretty sure that's the largest mover for desktop GPUs.

Love my 3060 Hope it lasts the decade

>buy a new gpu >maplestory classic announced Welp, I think those fans are barely going to be running the next few years.

>>1184211 >That's just old shit. It's literally Q2 2024 to Q4 2024. That article is only a month old. It's the most up to date graph on GPU sales you will find. The article you linked seems more a puff piece on AMD than anything else. Again, what the fuck are you actually talking about.

WHY THE FUCK CAN'T I BUY A 9070 XT FOR $800 OR LESS

The 5090 is basically the AI hobbyist card.

>>1182730 what's wrong with msi?

>>1182257 Had a gigabyte motherboard on one of my first pc's it was good. Had an asrock z87m extreme4, it was good. Have an MSI b650 now and it's good too.

trying to figure out if a 5090 is a good investment. I currently have a 3080 with 10 vram. I have to wait a long time for flux gens and SDXL upscales but its not a huge deal i can still make decent slop. i can always watch porn whie waiting for gens to complete. I'm afraid if i get super fast gens ill start going crazy and get frustrated by the limitations of the models. theres plenty of 5090s on ebay for $3.5k but i thats why i havent pulled the trigger yet. not sure if we're gonna keep getting great open source models

>>1188011 >$3.5k Dude, no. Never pay scalpers. But if it's no huge deal for you like you say, just keep your current setup.

>>1134963 >fucking IDLE coil whine Why didn't you return it when you first bought it? I'd kill myself if my pc made constant annoying noises. Also fuck GPU jews, next they'll skimp on binning and say it's normal to get a crash or two a week.

>>1186524 I'm talking about the cards being old you stupid fuck.

>>1189029 >Why didn't you return it when you first bought it? Scalping was rampant at the time and this one was almost fairly priced. Also I believe myself cursed with eternal coil whine no matter the GPU But you're right, I should have returned it

>WHEA logger 18 fatal hardware error I've been having this problem for a while and this PC is like 6 years old now. It's about time to upgrade, but it's a bad time with prices so fucking high. What gpu + mobo combo are good for midrange at this point? I just don't want to break the bank is all. Is it still feasible to build a decent PC under 1k?

>>1189873 If you're really good at bargain hunting (or have a microcenter near you) then yeah right around $1k is doable >Ryzen 7 7700 off aliexpress, about $175 >Asrock B650M HDV/M.2, about $130 >cheapest DDR5 6000 CL30 kit you can find, about $100 >any decent GPU in the $500 range, preferably a 4070/ 5060ti 16GB if no better choices >any case, about $30 if you're not already reusing yours >any decent gold rated 650W PSU, about $70 ii you're not already reusing

is 5080 ever going to be sold at msrp this year? I thought 1k was already too much to splurge but these 1.5k scalper prices are in no way justified.

>>1190950 Maybe, it took time for the 4080 as well to go for a decent enough price.

>>1190950 There is PNY 5080s at msrp in my region you obviously get the ugliest cooler ever with zero lights and no zerorpm fans but it is a 5080 I don't expect the premium gaymer aibs to go anywhere near msrp for 5080 and 5090 ever ever

>>1192618 Hell I'd take that, I don't care about lights and I WANT the fans to be running full blast most of the time anyway. My tower is out of sight so I don't care if the cooler is a sculpture of a turd, I won't see it.

>>1190950 For 1.5k you can occasionally find a used 4090, that beats the everloving shit out of the 5080.

>>1192838 It gets a lot closer once you OC the crap out of the 5080 (power usage being about the same), but yeah just for the fact that the power connector is less shit, PhysX is still present and you get 24GB VRAM the 4090 is a better choice. >>1192618 >and no zerorpm fans That shit is a meme, most it achieves is breaking your fans sooner than if they'd ran all the time, I've removed that shit from my GPU and they're still the most silent part of the build.

What's a good 96 gb two stick kit? I want to upgrade from my shit Corsair vengeance ram, it's too slow and I need a little more memory for big digital art files. I'm running a 9900x and msi tomahawk 870 mobo

>>1199323 Any that is at least 6000 CL32 Literally every single kit that is that or better is Hynix 24Gb Mdie and they all perform more or less the same.

>>1190950 Maybe this autumn, I hope, but I doubt it'll be for much less unless inventory really ramps up by then

>>1178071 >If they don't do it someone else will. Then buy ATI cards or the scraps Intel is trying to slurp up.

>>1186999 Sure, if you can even get one from scamming retailers jacking prices & offloading other inventory through unwanted bundles.

I'm still jacking to RX580 I bought used 5 years ago, but I fear the time will come soon, so any equivalent in term of performance and price? Sadly, I'm still the same old poor fuck I was years ago.

>>1200007 Save up for an used 30 series, they're not the best but they're kind of cheap for the performance. Granted at this point a 1080ti / 2080ti would still be a breath of fresh air

Speaking of old GPUs, what would be an interesting thing for anons that come near this thread >Testing crossfire on every game that supports it and report back >do a "does it run" chart in the style of anon's core 2 one but for Haswell era stuff?

>>1192618 Yeah I think I'll start looking out for a PNY. The 5070 is starting to look very good since it's even cheaper than the 3090 I sold, and with better performance, but I'm only upgrading for high-end VR so a 10% gain is not what I wanted.

>>1200347 >it's even cheaper than the 3090 I sold >10% gain is not what I wanted. What? A 3090 is faster than a 5070, by a decent chunk and a 5080 on the other is way faster than 10% over a 3090

>>1200455 >A 3090 is faster than a 5070 Is it? All the benchmarks I've seen has the 5070 winning. Maybe in a few fringe cases where VRAM is the bottleneck does it win. >a 5080 on the other is way faster than 10% over a 3090 I never implied otherwise. Reread what I wrote.

>>1200492 >Is it? All the benchmarks I've seen has the 5070 winning. Maybe in a few fringe cases where VRAM is the bottleneck does it win. Maybe in RT or with DLSS but raw native res raster the 3090 should still be faster by a bunch

>>1200546 all the benchmarks I see have the 5070ti way ahead of the 3090 and the 5070 on par with the 3090, but you also get all the new tech and it uses like 100 less watts than the 3090 that 12gb vram does suck if you need to use it but the good thing about the 5070 is all the youtubers demonized it for clicks and the niggercattle refuse to buy it so I've seen it sell way under msrp and all models available so you can pick whatever looks good

>>1200631 Seems highly variable from what I've been looking at but it looks like it's very strong at 1080p but falls off a lot at higher res vs the 3090, there's some insane outliers though like FC6 that has the 5070 beat the 4090.

>>1200631 >>1200690 Another thing to consider is that the 5000 series cards can overclock pretty well. The 3090 can push an extra 5-10%, but people have been seeing 20% gains with the 5070.

>>1200973 Yeah the 50 series seems like it can OC to the moon. Been checking HWbot and there's guys beating custom loop 4090s with a stock cooler 5080 which is insane considering 4090 OC really well under water and the 5080 is lagging 20% behind at stock.

>>1199405 Well, after a lot of searching my options for decent megatransfer rates and compatibility seem to be either $300 CL 32 teamgroup kit or a $450 CL 28 Trident kit. My current ram is CL 40 at 4800 mt

>>1201675 Like I told you cheapest 6000CL32, 99.9% chance you can just overclock it manually to behave the same as the super high end kits if you so desire and if you don't 6000CL32 is the sweetspot for working on any CPU while still being very close to what a great XMP can provide. Granted if you can find 6400 CL32 for cheaper you can try but that's not guaranteed stable on every AMD CPU, though if XMP / EXPO doesn't run stable just set the speed lower manually in your BIOS and it should be just fine

Ah needs muh AI machine 32gb of onboard is not enough dammnit the fucking models are about 6 months from being that big as standard then it'll be this half loaded shit all over again

>>1202259 Just buy Strix Halo then, 128GB for less than a stupid 5090. Unless you're rich and can afford an RTX Pro

>>1202337 laptops are for homos

>>1202603 Who said anything about laptops? https://frame.work/fr/en/desktop

Can it compete with CUDA though

Benchmarks or it's all lies.

>>1202836 Probably not especially with AMD not being in a hurry to add it to the Rocm compatibility list, but it's an AI workstation with a fuckton of VRAM and pretty much the least insane option if 32GB ain't cutting it, if you want more than that and still be on team green you need one of the last gen or current Quadros, or a modded 4090, or if you're exceptionally rich H100 / B100 / B200.

>>1203197 Whole new rig either way, I'm on an end of gen 3080 setup, everything is sweet on it and it'll still see a lot of use as a gaming machine but the AI shit is taking over and the big boys are beating my 12gb up. Guess I'm keeping my eyes open for AI boxes then. Nvidia mentioned doing one too but would they outdo the 5090 AI-wise with it?

>>1203374 >Nvidia mentioned doing one too but would they outdo the 5090 AI-wise with it? I mean regardless of what the actual GPU is if it has more VRAM it's automatically a lot better, though if they do that I'm expecting the prices to be as insane as a 5090