>An October release A good decision considering Elden Ring's DLC is going to dominate the summer along with other titles.

Western and Japanese Collector's Editions.

I'm surprised this is getting a day 1 PC release.

>>961252 Because Sega realised that most of the West, Western Taiwan and Worst Korea plays mostly on PC. So having it on a platform that will sell millions on is a no brainer, PC has even gotten big in Japan in the past 5 years.

The bad guy looks smug 24/7.

>>961252 >I'm surprised this is getting a day 1 PC release. I don't consider denuvo games to be true PC releases, sadly.

She's done for.

>>961307 I doubt they'd spoil a character death. That's either: a flashback, she's just seriously hurt, they can bring people back in this universe or like a vision or something.

>>961310 All I know is if I can get her to breed.

>>961252 Because they know people will buy it on PC in droves.

What the hell happened here earlier?

>>961436 Autism but don't worry about it.

>>961318 Welp, looks like a no. Frankly, I've kind of lost a lot of interest after this announcement. I imagine they lost most of the Persona crowd too. And for those of you who are SMT fans who are like "Hey I hate the romance and waifu faggotry in Persona games" realize this game will be as baby easy as a Persona game and will have the same tone (hell it's even rated T) it just won't have any waifus. Basically all the stuff you hate will still be there, it just won't also have the things the other side likes. Much like TMS this is a game that will aim for the middle and please no one. https://nitter.poast.org/Persona_Central/status/1782794060169662820#m

>>961498 I don't get it. Appealing to waifufags with romance was one of modern Purse-Owners biggest draws to the series and you just know they would want it here too, especially since it also has a social link-esuqe system. Why do I have a feeling SEGA/Atlus pandering to ESG is responsible for this decision somehow? >Much like TMS this is a game that will aim for the middle and please no one. I can at least hope that it'll be a fun game.

>>961498 This strikes me as a disastrous choice and I would not be shocked if they did a patch later for waifu faggotry.

>>961507 No, they'll probably add it in the inevitable re-release a couple years from now that adds new story content, extra bosses, new endings, and new gameplay mechanics. And you'll also be expected to pay full price for the glorified DLC because Atlus still has their PS2 era consumer model.

>>961509 Fucking screen cap this and the new release will be rated M due to them adding back the Romance (which I think was cut), and it will be released before P6 or a new SMT game to hold people over.

>>961504 >Why do I have a feeling SEGA/Atlus pandering to ESG is responsible for this decision somehow? This was my first thought as well. Like some western faggot said they had to include lots of gays if there was going to be romance so they just said no romance. >>961507 I agree with >>961509 I expect this version to undersell. Probably not to Soul Hackers 2 or TMS levels but it will definitely sell less than P3R and maybe even SMTVV. In a couple of years they'll do a re-release and lo' and behold suddenly the game will have romance. Though it might be too late to save it's reputation by then. I honestly don't get this decision at all. Team Zero has added romance to all three of their previous games. MRF has every appearance of a Persona game mechanically and they are taking out one of the most talked about aspects.

>>961252 Sega console game sales are dead in the water from looking at sales charts, Sony castrating releases didn't help, it's why they've been doing it.

>>961514 I'm surprised they haven't released Unicorn Overlord on PC if that's true.

>>961515 Because Vanlliaware asked Sega/Atlus to not have it on PC for whatever reason.

>>961516 I know, but you'd think SEGA would basically make a PC port behind their back.

>>961517 Atlus decided to honour their choice to not have the game sell even more on PC.

>>961498 >>961513 >>961504 My confusion is why rehashino tried to style part of it like an early 80s Tomino anime but the mc character design looks like a lazy re-paste from Persona (unless it was either that or a fuccboi haircut)

>They removed romances >Which are extremely popular in RPGs both Western and Eastern >The Japanese who love Atlus for allowing them to have waifus have always bought the fuck out of Atlus games >SEGA and Atlus think this won't cause the Japanese version to suffer heavily Man I really wanted this game to do well I really did /v/. But this will cause loss of sales in Japan and even here in the sjw west this shit won't fly as look how well Blading gay did when it let you fuck whatever moves. Good luck SEGA you'll need it!

>>961498 >No self-insert romance shit Good, the Social-Sim shit has been a crutch for their bad aspects and offloading what should important character moments into side-activities meant to fellate the player. The Modern Persona games and their consequence have been a disaster for Atlus as a whole, if Hackshino can stick the landing for this one I see a bright future ahead for Atlus even with Kaneko ditching the company.

>>961542 Read the whole post, faggot, the social sim aspects are still there. It still has social links. It still has the power of friendship. It will still be piss easy and have shonen anime vibes. The only thing it doesn't have is romance specifically: in short it still hates your side just as much.

>>961542 Read the post it still has all the stuff you SMT fags are asshurt over. >>961545 >in short it still hates your side just as much. Were they trying to appease both sides you think?

>>961545 Retards trying to compensate for a lacking social life through a self-insert romance is still part of what enabled Fatlus to change to it's current state. It's baby steps but if it has other things going on I'm willing to give it a shot unlike the series wearing old Kaneko's designs and Satomi's concepts like a skinsuit. If they think that helps separating the game from Purseowner that's more power to Meguro and company. At least it's looking to be somewhat new. >>961550 I think Hashino's just sick of remaking Persona 3 at this point and wants to step away from it. I'm willing to give the game a shot if it's less obnoxious with the player pandering and padding. The general art direction seems actually somewhat inspired instead of generic modern day and the monster designs actually look unique this time.

I'm in a strange spot as I can't stand either Persona or SMT fans as both act insufferable. But this game does peak interest for me. I've played SMT and Persona they're ok but the fanbases of both turned me off.

>>961554 So I assume that means you like SMT4A then? It doesn't have romance options or social links. But since you're fine with the power friendship and shonen anime things that means you're okay with that game now, right?

>>961562 This is a huge reason why I don't like SMT fans as they aren't consistent with what they want from the games. Also SMT isn't nearly as full of depth as they like to think it is. If the queers want depth they can play older CRPGs or they can play last remnant. As to not leave Persona shits out of the fun the games are easy as fuck and have zero depth but the music is very good I will concede on that.

>>961567 > last remnant

>>961545 >It will still be piss easy This is the most disappointing part. Why even have the journo difficulty option if you're just gonna cater all the other difficulty options to braindead retards too?

>>961562 >So I assume that means you like SMT4A then? >"If you accept X in Y you definitely like Z in A" SMT4A is the worst of both worlds, a plot about power of friendship/kumbaya and shallow fanservice in a setting that doesn't support it, a combat system that is a completely fucked iteration of press-turn, designs that shit on everything SMT stood for and a shallow understanding of myth and philosophy.Music is good, but it's wasted on a game with a stupidly designed combat system and retarded plot- It's supposedly a familiar franchise entry with very few if none of the aspects that actually make a franchise with a team that clearly does not understand what it's doing or who it's aiming for. Compare this skinwalker shit to a team outright admitting wanting to make something different than what they've been making the past 2 decades and wanting to make a new brand for just that.One is downgrading what is already there to ape something poorly and the other is attempting to chart new ground, how much of that is new is to be seen but what they've shown so far is promising. >>961567 >last remnant Played it, got stuck near the end and close to do one of the optional missions but BR is too high to do all the shit I want. I could replay it now that I understand battle rank properly, but It's very behind my backlog until I do other shit.

>>961583 >Compare this skinwalker shit to a team outright admitting wanting to make something different than what they've been making the past 2 decades and wanting to make a new brand for just that It has a calendar and social links. This is not "different." This is the exact same thing lacking one specific element.

>>961567 <This is a huge reason why I don't like SMT fans as they aren't consistent with what they want from the games. BECAUSE SMT WAS NEVER CONSISTENT. IT IS A WHOLE ASS FRANCHISE WITH A SHIT TON OF EXPERIMENTAL TITLES AND SPINOFFS. If anything, the main plague of Purseowner is the worrying homogenization of Fatlus's output, which this title FINALLY BREAKS. Metaphor is basically just ripping up the FATE system from Devil Survivor 2 and slotting it into this game. All SMT fans want is the old spirit of experimentation and deviation back, not just plopping a digital recreation of Shibuya into their laps.

>>961609 >homogenization of Fatlus's output, which this title FINALLY BREAKS No it doesn't. It has a calendar and social links. It's more Persona than SMT4A was.

>>961615 <It has a calendar and social links ...like Devil Survivor? If anything, this thread is exposing how people don't play SMT games outside of Purseowner.

>>961617 SMT don't play SMT games outside of, being generous, Nocturne

>>961617 Devil Survivor 1 is what happens if you took the social links from modern Persona and actually made it meaningful to the main plot.

>>961617 If you think this game is more similar to Devil Survivor than Persona you are actually retarded.

>>961617 To be fair that game went over a week and shit was less Social links and more if the characters and their friends were even alive and aware of you by the time of the final day. Social Links were about an abundance of time, DeSu's time management is about the in theory stricter amount of time. >>961619 DDS 1 & 2, Raidou games, Soul Hackers, SMTII, SMT V, Strange Journey, SMTIV, SMT IF and DeSu1(2 looked too much like a departure from 1 for my liking). >>961622 That would actually be Persona 2, each party member was given a focused arc that encouraged you to let them handle themselves and then the arc returned for the each party members shadow confrontations as a flag-pole of their development before the finale.

>>961609 >>961617 Metaphor takes alot after Persona 5 are you delusional?

>>961498 According some in the comments " This doesn't mention no romance at all, and midori answered a someone's question asking if dating was gonna be in the game. She said yes but it's gonna be very different than persona". So what might be happening is there will be romance but not like how it is in Persona, which makes me wonder how this will play out now.

>>961696 So /v/, SMT&Persona fags along with the rest of the internet jumped the gun with the no romance thing?

>>961696 Could you show a link to that?

>>961700 I'm gonna look in the live stream for that post but this guy seems to have actually watched the Q&A stream. I'm gonna watch it and try to find it, then clip it as we might've been mislead. https://nitter.poast.org/GandyMarcelo/status/1782855126153113940#m

>>961702 Get back to us if you find it. A lot of people seem to running with this as gospel so it would be good to know for sure.

>>961702 Someone says it's at 1h38m10s on this video: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qdY0m8beLbg

>>961704 I was going to post this but was beaten to it, but thanks anon. But yes it seems we got fed disinfo.

>>961707 Do you speak moon? Sadly I don't can you translate exactly what they say?

>>961709 I'm meh at it but I'll try to after work.

>>961696 >>961702 This is interesting.

So any update on this? Is there a translation somewhere now?

>>961838 October 11th

>>961696 >>961707 >disinfo Another episode of EOPs EOPing shit up like the niggers they are. God I can't wait for cultural sakoku and the nips actively cutting off translation of their works as a whole. From 1:38:07 onwards, they talk about how relationships with followers won't proceed to romance(with the reasoning being that romance isn't/can't be a major concern given the state of things in the world) but will instead develop the story through deepening bonds, that the relationships could be considered close enough to romance given how deep the bonds would become, and that engaging in romance with what are more or less supporters in an election doesn't particularly make sense. Fuck Personaniggers, lest I forget.

>>961530 >They removed romances Welp, this is DOA Personafags only "play" that trash for the shipping

>inb4. proofs!!!! The script from 1:38:07 onwards for whatever faggot translation software you use: 「コミュはコープとは異なるシステムので、恋愛関係には至りませんが, 深い絆を結ぶ事でサブストーリを通してより深い物語体験が出来ます」 「まあ　あの　選挙運動中に恋愛に現を抜かす暇はないちゅうこっちゃ」 「まあ　だから　なんすかね　実質俺の彼女みたいな 」　「ああ　それ考える人がいるー」　「駄目、駄目ですか？」　 「それは自由だ」　「深い心のつながりはある」 「まあ、実際、その　選挙の支持者ですからね　恋愛関係というのはちょっと変な感じになりますからー」　「ちょっとまずいっすよね」 「ハニートラップとか疑っちゃいますからね」　「ああそうｊかそうか　そうか」 「でも　あったらそういう　悪い人も寄って来る可能性が」　「まあ、選挙というのはね　策謀の世界ですからね」 「まあ、そういうことでね　深い絆を結ぶサブストーリとして　物語体験に生きるというのは是非楽しみにしててください」 relevant sections redtexted

>>961846 >play it for the first time more like "pay for it a 2nd time"

Alright I'm back from being a wagie and watched the stream, this info is rather interesting as both SMT and Persona fans technically got what they wanted and didn't want in the Anti/Pro Romance debate simultaneously. Headlines saying there is no romance is misleading as Metaphor's version of bonds/social links will contain romantic elements but not dating sim tier like Persona 3-5, they apparently stated that bonds/social links with the party will have interactions more in line with traditional RPGs. So the Persona fans hoping to waifu it up will be disappointed, and SMT fans who were jacking it on the spot to the thought of zero romance to spite Persona fans will be disappointed, Atlus found a middle ground that will leave both unsatisfied. So the tweet here >>961702 was correct in a sense, also I noticed the English trailer lacks the bright red blood the Japanese version has with some other stuff which I'll post soon.

>>961850 Thanks for actually doing it, anon, unlike the other people who just made vague allusions. That's pretty cut and dry. Well you couldn't ask for a better year to see how much waifus mean to Atlus sales. You've got three Atlus games releasing in one year. Persona 3 R was the best selling Persona game to do date and the fastest. SMTVV will be out in the middle of the year as a good baseline/control. Now we have this, a game is for all intents and purposes a Persona game with no romance. We shall see how it does.

>>961891 The game has diet Persona social shit?

>>961898 That's been known since almost the beginning anon. It has a calendar too. It's basically just fantasy Persona. The ONLY thing it doesn't have is at the end of the s-links with the girls they don't say "I love you" that's it. Otherwise it's the same. It's why the notion that removing it somehow would massively change Atlus back to how they used to be was always laughable.

>>961896 > SMTVV will be out in the middle of the year <It's coming out the month Shadow of the Erdtree drops Yea they'll be eclipsed by it unfortunately. >>961898 It's similar but different. >>961900 Yea that's why I said > So the Persona fans hoping to waifu it up will be disappointed, and SMT fans who were jacking it on the spot to the thought of zero romance to spite Persona fans will be disappointed, Atlus found a middle ground that will leave both unsatisfied. People hoping for zero romance got mislead and people who want waifu shit got a diet version of it. >. It's why the notion that removing it somehow would massively change Atlus back to how they used to be was always laughable. This line of thought baffled me.

>>961891 So it's DeSu 2's FATE system. Told you all.

>>961903 >>961910 Is TORposting even possible anymore? I thought the onion site was down.

>>961914 Yes, Acid brought it back up recently IIRC. Either that or the schizo is posting directly through the website tools or some shit.

This is Japanese trailer.

>>961953 Western trailer.

>>961953 >>961956 Why the hell did they censor blood in the western trailer when that shit is tolerated more in the west than even Japan especially when cero gets anal over the littlest shit?

>>961959 I'm just as fucking confused as you are!

>>961959 They know their fans are little sissy faggots

>>961891 >Atlus found a middle ground that will leave both unsatisfied I'm somewhat ok with the romance being on the lighter side of things.

>>961953 >>961956 Let's hope this censorship only applies to the trailer and not the actual release. Though, I guess if the western release DOES get censored, it'll be some good fuel to the fire that is the localization discourse and will show just how shit Atlus USA has become. Just a shame that this game would be the sacrificial lamb for that.

>>962129 I would have no problem with there just being a fixed romance and character relationships like a normal ass jrpg. I was fully expecting it to be a normal jrpg. Then they did the calendar and s-link stuff and that muddied everything so everyone assumed it was like Persona. They should have just never done the calendar and diet s-link stuff in the first place and likely then no one would have questioned it.

>>962129 I'm not terribly upset but I'm somewhat laughing at how Atlus cucked both sides. >>962135 >Just a shame that this game would be the sacrificial lamb for that. I'd be upset as I've been looking forward to this game for 8 years now. >>962137 I think they wanted both SMT and Persona fans along with the wider RPG audience, but didn't do enough research of what those groups wanted. The calendar and diet s-links end up pissing off their SMT and Persona fans, now the question is how the wider RPG audience they've been targeting will react. They should've just either done absolutely zero romance or doubled down on what P3-P5 did with the dating sim shit, this in-between might up hurting it.

>>962135 The entire company has become shit in 2013 to be fair. Atlus USA having shit translations is just the cherry on top of a shit sundae.

>>961891 So we're getting romance of a sort?

I don't get why you anons are making such a big deal about the lack of outright dating and romance sim elements. That shit and the school setting are the whole reason I was turned off from the Persona series. The fact that this game has the long-term time management stuff and has a fantasy setting with more traditional romance/friendship writing instead of locking it behind dating sim BS actually makes me much more interested in it. Hell, I'd even buy it on PC if it wasn't going to have Denuvo in it. Yeah I know they haven't announced such but it's SEGA, they put denuvo in a shitty upscale port of decades-old games with the EO collection, they're going to put that trash in this.

>>961891 >The game is getting a more traditional RPG party friendship/romance that isn't dating simulator nonsense That and the more traditional RPG elements make me take notice. Well shame the PC version will have DRM.

>>962181 >I don't get why people like different things than me Not every Persona fan is an SMT fan.

>>961906 >TFW Metaphor ends up being a spiritual successor to DeSu 2's system This isn't necessary a bad thing Anons.

>>962273 But it doesn't look like that? It looks like social links. You just won't be able to go "I love you" at rank 9. That's the only difference.

Some caps

>>962320 They really are approaching this game from a more traditional RPG sense with how the party works. The archetypes are more of a job system with the ability to customise them.

>>962320 >>962327 I was expecting Fantasy Persona 5 or Fantasy Nocturne, but Atlus is flirting with more conventional Role playing game elements. This game will make or break Atlus, as how many years did this game take to develop again?

>>962406 >This game will make or break Atlus After 8 years they have to.

>>961891 So many were acting like the devs said zero romance. Thanks for clarifying this anon.

>>962526 >So many were acting like the devs said zero romance >>961850 makes it seems like he's bullshitting though.

>>961891 I was going to call bullshit but this lines up with what a lot of other people I've asked have said about this.

>>961956 SHE DOES IT AGAIN!!!!

>>961953 >>961956 >>961959 >>961962 >>962021 >>962135 Trailers are often randomly and inconsistently censored depending on where and when they're planned to be aired. I'd withhold judgement until the game is out, but censorship of trailers does give you a good hint on where to look for potential censorship.

>>962586 > she

>>962587 What's weird is why censor the blood when it's not in the Japanese version?

>>962327 >Hulkenberg's hips Good god almighty /v/ this elf will be waifu bait of 2024.

>>962587 >but censorship of trailers does give you a good hint on where to look for potential censorship. I'd be on high alert.

I hope this game runs well on PC.

>>962852 It will have denuvo

>>962854 Is it confirmed?

>>962862 It's a Sega game, anon. There has not been a single Sega PC release without denuvo.

>>962868 Unfortunate as this was one of the few games I looked forward to this year.

>>962671 Come October the fan art of her will be insane.

Some of you might find this interesting, I was talking to my Japanese friends and asked what they think of Metaphor. The answers might make some of you laugh or think we aren't too different after all. >Why did they even add a calendar system for a game like this? Just leave it to Persona as it leaves us unable to enjoy the game without feeling rushed! >Will Hashino and Team zero make us wait another 7 years for the real edition? >I'll buy it if it comes for the Switch 2 or even enter the PC platform since PS is not for Japanese anymore. >Happy this is a new series as the High school setting has gotten boring for Persona. >Soejima's strength is pop art style this transition to half fantasy to half pop is rather glaring for me. >Persona team without Hashino can only make re- releases and derivatives. >After Metaphor will Hashino join Kaneko at COLOPL? >Will the leg beards and transsexual men hate Hulkenberg for being shaped in a voluptuous manner? >The Reddit liberals will try and change the dialogue for the western version won't they? >Hopefully this title will be a higher difficulty then Persona 5 >They made romances limited to avoid homosexuals I bet! >The reason why romance is limited is due to the themes being more of a political campaign? >Perhaps the transsexual men will like the monsters called "Humans" out of a sense of reflection? >Balder's Gate 3 gave me high expectations for party dynamics the half way of Persona links with lighter romantic elements or inter party conflict might make me pass on this >Them limiting the romance to a smaller pool of the cast makes it more meaningful >Hashino needs to work magic as western RPGs like Balder's Gate 3 and Japanese dark fantasy RPGs like Elden Ring will put Atlus out of business >Imagine if they made PS only like Final Fantasy the Atlus would be eating only udon and 7-11 >Atlus makes their women look sexy where western games make their women look like some Kurdish woman with one brow.

>>963077 PlayStation really killed the decades old player base they held in Japan.

>>963080 Gaystation royally pissed off the Japanese by going full woke western soy, it helped Nintendo regain market share and made the PC market share go up considerably.

>>963082 Sony made a grave error pandering to sjw Californians.

>>963077 They seem convinced romance is in the game but limited to a smaller pool? Why do they think that? The passage that anon posted seemed to say there would be no romance period.

>>963098 There is some romantic elements to certain party members's links, but it won't be like in Persona and overall the game will focus more on rallying political support.

>>963077 >The Reddit liberals will try and change the dialogue for the western version won't they? Even the Japanese are becoming aware of how awful our localization is.

>>963108 So I don't get it, does this mean party members are romances and the whole quote was just about how the other NPCs you meet (the equivalent of non party member s-links I guess) wouldn't be? Because that's an entirely different vibe than what it was being framed as here and on social media initially. The Persona audience likely wouldn't be upset if it was limited to party members. Those are usually the ones people pick anyway.

>>963116 > does this mean party members are romances A select few will have romantic elements to their links, is what I'm being told.

>>963118 Well that's vague but honestly that makes the news seem a lot more like a nothingburger. Hulkenberg is a party member so that's really all I care about.

>>963119 What I've looked at and have asked Japanese guys I know, is that there isn't a total removal of the romance. Just it's not going to be like how it is in Persona and is limited in nature and to certain characters. How this diet system will work remains to be seen.

So is this game going to be more of a traditional CRPG with that Atlus flare or fantasy SMT/Persona?

>>964609 An in-between.

Currently in Japan and asked a few people at a game store how they feel about the game, there is a lot of hype and a lot of caution over it being a new IP.

New screenshots

Takes more from SMT3 in combat https://www.youtube.com/live/H-G_4GqAgA0?si=kCRzsqj8JFzjbK_6

The DLC costume sets in Metaphor: ReFantazio. (1/2) - Persona (St. Hermelin) - Persona 2 (Seven Sisters) - Persona 3 (Gekkoukan) - Persona 4 Golden (Yasogami) The DLC costume sets in Metaphor: ReFantazio. (2/2) - Persona 5 (Shujin) - Shin Megami Tensei IV (Samurai) - Shin Megami Tensei V (Jouin) - Etrian Odyssey (Classes)

>>977059 >>977059

>>977059 >>977060 non of this shit looks good on any of these characters.

>>977080 It's not supposed to look good, it's fanservice for fans of X atlus games

Steam version has Denuvo, and there goes all my interest in the game. Also, apparently a "Katrina Leonoudakis" is the main one localizing the game? No clue who she is but apparently she's real shit at her job and heavy politicizes her translations. The Elf is cute but I am not paying this much for denuvo and a shit localization. >>977089 Why do they keep making Etrian Odyssey outfits? Even as a fan of that series it's really not that popular and the choices here make little sense outside of hero for the protag, but then why did they pick the shota hero outfit?

>>977090 >she that's a well-known tranny who takes pride in butchering translations.

>game looks great >DRM and potentially bad translation Monkey paw

>>977059 >>977060 I'll take the Hulkenberg in the micro-string bikini and see-through babydoll, thank you. Also mods when?

>>977389 When it comes out.

>>977399 fugg

>>961891 So Metaphor is going to have social bonds with light to mild romance but nothing like Persona's waifu dating sim? I'm perfectly fine with that being the case for this.

>>981296 Seems to be the case.