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Pre-2012 Isekai Games Anonymous 07/01/2024 (Mon) 16:51:33 Id: 795017 No. 985217
Let's talk about isekai in video games before isekai was totally ruined by a terrible but inexplicably popular work in 2012. >Final Fantasy Tactics Advance A bunch of kids are sucked into a fantasy world by a magic book, with the weak bullied kid being its ruler. Every character (except some bullies, but their cursed existence in the new world is something only a very observant player will ever notice is a thing) has a genuinely better life within this book so the main character decides to destroy the world and restore the original. The game is legendary for how poorly developed his motivations are, and how the plot sucks from it, and how it (and the law system) ruin the otherwise sold gameplay >Final Fantasy Tactics A2 Sequel to above. Another kid (just the one) is sucked into the same fantasy world. Plot is pretty aimless and mostly him witnessing other people's story and waiting for stuff to happen around him, but it's not the actively broken >Summon Night Japanese high school girl winds up in fantasy world populated primarily by natives of other worlds who have been one way summoned to the world. All future games in the franchise drop the idea of having the main character being from Earth, but do have some random characters who were summoned from it. >Baten Kaitos Unusual execution where the player is summoned to the game's world as a spirit to help guide the main character. The games actually do a lot of interesting things with the framing device. Pretty solid jRPGs with interesting battle systems and worth a play. Don't play the HD re-release because a tranny re-localized it to death. >every Alice in Wonderland/Wizard of Oz game I'm not aware of any that are particularly interesting in execution, but there's a few dozen of these and I mention them for completion.
>>985217 FFTA would've had a better motivation if you were separated from your family. You've got your mom and dad and Doned, but the game only ever talks about Doned. If the game explained that Mewt couldn't bring Marche's parents because he didn't know them well enough, that'd be something to properly motivate the protag into shutting down the world and bringing the real world back. What I'm wondering is why your clan is helping you do this. >"I want my family, Mewt!" >"I'll make you a new one! Would that work? Stop wrecking my world!"
Even if its not the literary definition, I still consider isekai to be trapped in another dimension/world permanently rather than sucked into an object temporarily like the stories of inkheart or the lion witch wardrobe. The suspension of disbelief crumbles when you think about your main character in ffta stabbing people or using a bow skillfully and then just being plopped back to middle school.
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>>985217 >Let's talk about isekai in video games before isekai was totally ruined by a terrible but inexplicably popular work in 2012. Isekai was always terrible wish fulfilment power fantasy garbage for pretееns. Before you point to classic stories like The Lion, the Witch and the Wardrobe, Alice's Adventures in Wonderland or The Wonderful Wizard of Oz; they were apart of a largely British literary genre called portal fantasy that spanned from the 19th century to the mid 20th century. Isekai in earnest originates in early 1980s novels and anime.
>>985227 >Isekai was always terrible wish fulfilment power fantasy garbage for pretееns. Yeah, but that's why I love it.
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>>985227 Isekai in earnest originates from older fantasy stories since fantasy has always been like that, an escape from reality. Portal fantasy is specifically an English definition but most countries have written down fables and fantasy trash for hundreds of years based around their own countries/religions. DnD is based off of Portal Fantasy, SMT liberally borrows from it along with other religions, portal fantasy in general is specifically western while gook shit is typically Shinto/Buddhist/etc
>>985227 Isekai is a writer's tool to introduce the reader/watcher to a new world through the eyes of a fresh off (of) the boat character. It has existed for hundreds of years, with The Divine Comedy being one of the oldest and best known examples. Even something like Master and Commander counts as "isekai" since it uses that same writing technique.
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>Alice in wonderland games There are only 2 worth caring about. American mcgees alice is a really fun and cool looking adaptation. The sequel I didn't get very far in because I couldn't get past the anti-piracy measure.
Super Mario Bros. 1 is an isekai. Mario and Luigi are ordinary plumbers from Brooklyn who get sucked into a magical world of mushrooms where they gain super powers and need to defeat an evil dragon to save the princess. Ever after that game Mario has been an inhabitant of a magical kingdom, but up to then he was just an ordinary guy. He did not even have jumping super powers, he could only jump one tile high and would die if he fell from too great a height.
>>985261 Was the Brooklyn part ever part of the Japanese canon or was it just NoA being anti-Japanese in the 80s
>>985262 >>985261 Doesn't SMB2 count since it's in a dreamscape? As far as I can tell Doki Doki Panic is also in a dreamscape, but the player characters are natives.
>>985262 In the old Japanese movie they're from 'current reality', I can't remember if they're specific about it or not.
>bringing up anime autism in vidya For what purpose? Also, people actually liked the SAO games. This is like saying Harry Potter is shit (because its easy to shit on) but ignoring that people actually enjoyed the games generally.
>>985271 The source material that became popular in 2012 was cancer 100%.
>>985262 I don't know if NoA made up the Brooklyn part, but SMB1 was from the start about Mario being from the real world. I would not be surprised if Brooklyn was originally an idea from NoA that got canonized by Japan even before the game's release. The name Mario was definitely NoA's idea and it got adopted by the Japanese immediately.
>>985288 This is a video games board, and the source material is a light novel that is treated a lot more favorably than the 2012 anime anyways.
>>985300 The games didn't influence every isekai work going forward >a light novel that is treated a lot more favorably Anyone have the scan of that scene handy?
>>985303 Transformers is a reverse-isekai
>>985304 So, what prize do I get for naming these games?
>>985302 >As I shoved myself into Asuna, I released all of the pent up sensations that I had stretched to the limits. “A…Asuna…!” “Aaaah—!!!” Sword Art Online Volume 1 – Aincrad Chapter 16 235 I could feel my hot sperm gushing deep into Asuna as she trembled in yet another climax. Two years worth of semen made a glopping noise as it flowed endlessly into Asuna. Every time my penis twitched, fireworks would go off in my head. “Ah…ah…” After receiving all that I had to give her, Asuna’s strength gave out as she fell on top of me. “Ah… Ha…” I gently embraced Asuna while she continued to gasp and convulse as if she was being stimulated by the fluids inside her body as my consciousness dimmed. A single candle atop of the table stayed burning, its thin rays of light made Asuna's skin glow faintly as she slept in my arms. I ran a finger gently down her white back; the warm and smooth feeling that traveled up from my fingertips was absolutely intoxicating. Asuna slowly opened her eyes and looked towards me. She blinked twice and then smiled. “Sorry. Did I wake you?” “Yeah. I had a strange dream. One about the real world…” She continued to smile as she rubbed her face against my chest. https://pastebin.com/sjnuUGZL
>>985308 That's the one. >>985305 >>985304 >>985303 >Let's talk about isekai in video games >talk about Did they do anything interesting with the plot hook?
>>985302 >isekai "work" Who gives a shit, this isn't an anime or /jp/ board. Unless you have actual vidya affected you can talk about WRT to this shit, fuck off. Not to mention SAO is extremely limited in how it can affect vidya because it's a work about going into a fucking vidya world, it doesn't make sense for video games to bother with that shit. That's like expecting a movie about a guy playing a VR game to influence VR games into becoming about playing VR games in VR, it makes no fucking sense.
>>985316 Technically speaking it's .hack fanfiction that got turned into something similar in the end.
>>985217 >Don't play the HD re-release because a tranny re-localized it to death. What, is even the PC release impossible to hack?
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Unreal counts. You crash land on Na Pali and are viewed by the natives as their savior/messiah.
>>985226 As the other posters mentioned in this thread "portal fantasy" is just a easy writing tool, it brings both a 'fresh eyes' to the world making exposition easily justified, and character motivation "I gotta get back home!". What's midly novel about reincarnation isekai, is that it gets rid of the "go back home" motivation since the character can no longer go back home since they died. Apparently on sad panda isekai characters that reincarnate into the opposite sex don't count as gender change on sad panda. The reasoning is retarded.
>>985341 It's not worth it.
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Magic Knight Rayearth Because I'm a huge faggot and love to play as cute magical girls! Also, Legend of Himiko, which I never played since I don't think it ever left nipland, but I did watch the anime back in the day and it was pretty ok. FUCK YOU JEWTUBE, you can attempt to block my video downloader, but you can't stop me from recording my screen faggots! SUCK MY BALLS
>>985345 You're just restating what I already said! FF:TA used it as an easy writing tool without understanding that a lot of the kid stories mentioned have them acting as observers or getting magical powers that go away outside of the "portal's" domain. Returning and having experience being mercenaries for hire is different from essentially being escorted through a very large theme park by outside characters that ask you morality alignment questions.
>>985349 Oh, and not to forget Ultima - which most of them, if not all of them, are Isekai.
>>985352 Did Ultima do anything interesting with it besides making the PC a level 1 virgin every game?
>>985359 Maybe? Never actually played more than about an hour or two of any of them. I was always more a fan of Wizardry, and by fan of Wizardry - I mean I played that one nip Wizardry game that had nothing to do with the rest of the franchise. At least Andrew doesn't go around wearing a cape and crown while insisting people call him "Lord Greenburg of Cornell".
>>985217 FFTA Damn the plot is shit in that game considering how great the gameplay is. Even though the gameplay is a noticeable step down from the original FFT, it's still great. And that was certainly due to the limits of the GBA compares to the PS1. I wish the game had mission packs or something available. I played it until there was just no more juice left in that orange and I was still thirsty.
Isn't Touhou technically an isekai for Green Reimu and Gap Hag?


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