>>3526 Despite the hysteria it would generate, it's probably most rational economically for Xbox to follow Sega's path after the Dreamcast and become a multiplatform third-party software publisher.

Inb4 Sony proceeds to do all the awful shit that Microsoft did with the Xbox One, because they no longer have a real competitor in the console market and can get away with it without worrying about market share.

>>3592 It's funny how Microsoft has so thoroughly shit the bed that the first defence of Xbox can only be "BUT SONY-". The PS5 is the worst selling PlayStation outside the Vita, their grip on the industry isn't the same as it was during the 90s and 2000s. Platform warriors don't even count PC or Switch for whatever reason, probably because the "Sony will have a monopoly if Xbox dies!" narrative makes no sense if you do.

>>3593 >Platform warriors don't even count PC or Switch for whatever reason PC is Microsoft.

>>3600 >be Microsoft >dominate computer gaming for decades >jump into the console racket with more capital than the rest of the industry combined >engage in a bunch of anti-consumer business practices >watch as other consoles follow suit >quit the console industry just as it tanks >everyone is forced to game on either PCs or shitty little Nintendo handhelds.

>>3600 >PC is Microsoft. PC is Steam, MS owning the most popular OS doesn't really mean anything in the context of a PC.

>>3711 >PC is Steam, MS owning the most popular OS doesn't really mean anything in the context of a PC.

>>3714 That's obviously in the context of gaming you silly billy. PC itself is the platform, the conversation isn't about OS marketshare, it's about gaming platforms and within that framework what OS a PC runs on is irrelevant. Whether your PC runs MacOS (they're computers no matter what Apple's marketing says), BSD, Linux or Windows has no effect if you're buying games from Valve and GOG nonetheless. Under this logic, you could say the FreeBSD Project is a big gaming competitor because PlayStation consoles run on FBSD.

>>3719 It's important because the games won't run on Mac OS or whatever. People are partially buying the OS because of video games. And yes, that's beginning to change with Steam Deck and some similar things not running Windows, but it's a far way from really changing things substantially.

>>3719 >Whether your PC runs MacOS (they're computers no matter what Apple's marketing says), BSD, Linux or Windows has no effect Ah, found the stupid. Lel, anyone else remember when people thought that gamers would be tech-literate because they spent so much time on computers? The joke's on them. https://courses.lumenlearning.com/suny-informationliteracy/chapter/personal-computers/

>>3721 >>3722 >still missing what I'm saying Wonderful. I'll simplify it. Microsoft owning Windows doesn't mean they "own PC" and does nothing to negate the failure of Xbox and Microsoft's entire gaming division.

>>3600 >>3612 >>3711 >>3721 What is happening here? Xbox fans pulling some "A-ACTUALLY MICROSOFT STILL WINS!" cope because of Windows? Those aren't the same thing and you know it.

>>3726 If anything it's not trying to make things look positive for MS, it's trying to remind people who very likely are still using products from this shitty company to stop.

>>3743 Everything Microsoft makes is fucking terrible, it's insane. Even normalfags seem aware of this. I think MS is only popular out of people's inertia to change.

>>3744 Microsoft has not made a decent operating system since Windows 2000 Pro. The big trick is that people do not actually buy their products. Companies do. Windows gets packaged with company computers, and built into the computers that computer-illiterate people like >>3723 buy from retailers who get them from manufacturers in bulk. And since chip manufacturers like Intel design their chips to benchmark the best while running Microsoft software, the game studios in turn design their games to run the best with Microsoft software. This builds a big three-way co-dependency between Microsoft, chip manufacturers, and game studios where, no matter how poor each of their products are, they keep working together, because that is how their businesses are designed to run. Then you have Apple OS, which is largely self-contained and thus an afterthought to chip manufacturers and game studios. You have Linux distros, but the new Red Hat is turning every OS that they control into Microsoft-style dogshit. You can break out of it with some of the non-Red Hat OSs like Void, but you had better know your way around a command prompt and be able to compile software. Not many people can do that, largely because they have been using godawful operating systems their whole lives that assume that their users are retards, so they become a vanishingly small demographic that no company trying to sell games or computer parts targets. Thus Microsoft rules gaming and computer manufacturing despite making nothing but absolute shit for the past quarter century.

>>3747 >Microsoft has not made a decent operating system since Windows 2000 Pro. What's wrong with Windows 7?

>>3747 Originally I wrote out a long point-by-point breakdown of your post, like how "Apple OS" doesn't exist or what OS hardware is being benchmarked on not magically changing how it communicates with the databus, but a realization struck me. >biggest gaming platform is mobile >most popular mobile OS globally is Android >Android is based on the Linux kernal >Linus Torvalds rules gaming Linuxchads literally cannot stop winning. >>3834 It's Windows :^)

still winning

>>3612 >>3722 >>3747 ur an idiot lmao

>>3747 Nobody makes games for Mac (historically the best OS for gaming) because Apple is viscerally anti-third party. Notice how all Mac gaming ended the day they rugpulled 32bit support. Something they did purely to screw over third party software developers running legacy code.

>>2276 Tbh looking at that chart of sales numbers, I think, say, the PS1 selling what it did in the 90s is way more impressive than the PS4 seling what it has in modern times, considering games simply had less market in general back then and people had less money to buy them. New things will always outsell things from 20+ years earlier even if they are not as good... Like how random shitty new blockbusters keep breaking the box office record simply because people have more money to spend on movies and everything keeps gaining more and more reach. What I mean is that this sort of analysis should account for the times, like when they account for inflation, or something, I guess, otherwise they don't say much, other than, wow the XS sold less than even the original Xbox... When it's actually even worse, it sold less than it in the current decade when all videogames have an easier time selling than they did in the early 00s.

>>5828 The Atari 2600 comparison is what kills me. That's a system from the 70s, when people saw vidya as little more than an amusing fad.

>>2290 >Buy game studios >Shuts them down because they wanted to make games

>>3839 Everyone and their Mom knows Android is based on Linux Kernel. Linux Users knows don't give a fuck because >It's not an actual Linux distro and it has proprietary BS like Windows wether from Google or the phone brand like Samsung >They use PC and the PC market is catered towards Windows and they have to work around it and are lucky if they get something that supports Linux as for gaming they had to use Wine and Litrus before Steam introduced Proton.

That's... a cute way to admit going third party, i guess.

>>3834 It's when they got aesthetically retarded

>>3834 Aside from the ridiculous bloat?

>>6367 What's it saying, xbox isn't xbox hardware but xbox games? >>6391 It was most aesthetic, they got aesthetically retarded with 8 metro ui and flat phone tiles.

>>6391 Nah, 7 was fine Minimalist Apple tier shit was the issue

>>6397 >What's it saying, xbox isn't xbox hardware but xbox games? Sort of. They're trying to change the consumer's idea of what an xbox is. Instead of thinking it is a vidya console, they want the consumer to see any device that connects to xbox services as an xbox. Laptop, phone, TV, anything that can play xbox games is an xbox. Like anon said, this is probably because microsoft wants to go third party eventually and move away from making consoles, but still make games under the xbox name.

>>6397 >>6406 Xbox is a service

>>6409 >The xbox is an ex-console

>>6424 For quite some time now