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Anonymous 12/10/2024 (Tue) 02:02:22 No. 465876
I fixed this stupid comic.
>>465876 The last guy is blinded to the truth that he too lives in pursuit of hedonistic pleasure, it's just that his preferred proxies for generating those sweet reward neurochems that make him feel good (or lessening the production of those punishment neurochems that make him feel bad) are possibly different from the rest of the passengers on that train, and he has some sort of superiority complex about his favored method of chasing his pleasure, perhaps because his payout is delayed longer than theirs is (by comparison to his habits, they are likely far more instant forms of gratification-seeking), but it doesnt change the truth that everything people do ia motivated either by a desire to feel more good, or to not feel more bad, or to feel more pleasantly while feeling less unpleasantly.
>>465884 Go away, and never come back, retarded nigger, thanks
>>465885 No U.
>>465885 >gets his dopamine rush from being self-righteous on the internet
>>465899 No, that I get drom railing your moms loose asshole, jackass.
>>465899 Nah I get mine from the women killed, people can just be disgusted by things, disgust is an evolved instinct and like with all instinct, dysgenics can cover it up, but not get rid of it
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>public transportation >no niggers updated comic to reflect the 21st century
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>>465900 >>465903 Lel, angry loser is angry that people are making fun of how he tries to feel better about himself.
>>465907 You're both faggots tbh
>>465904 topkek and relatable
>>465908 Fuck u I ain't telling people how to behave or think
>>465916 So you enjoy handing out rope to people.
>>465916 you just did when you posted that image, ye daft cunt.
>>465950 That I would enjoy doing, most people would be better off dead >>465955 Wasn't the same fag
>>465956 My point stands.
>>465876 The briefcase make it probable that he is a banker or lawyer or some other kind of suit, therefore he is most probably among the more immoral ones on the train.
>>465884 >What's a hedonism? subhuman detected
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>>465876 fixed it even more
>>466026 hedoniam has a rich history and comes in many forms, one variant is negative hedonism, which contrasts with forms of positive hedonism by focusing on the minimization of pain (defines as anything you consider unpleasant) rather than the maximization of pleasure (defined as anything that pleases you), It focuses on removing things from your presence that you dislike (eg. jews, niggers, faggots, troons) rather than chasing that which you desire, many hedonists are ascetic hermits who live a minimalistic lifestyle in avoidance of stress and difficulty.
>>466031 It is a lack of respect, for yourself and everyone around you >>466018 No, that is making people feel a way, not think a way
>>466036 What the fuck? I love hedonism. Fuck you guys,
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>>466031 What you are describing is eipcureanism.
>>466037 I study it as aspect of genetic unhealthiness "You" don't love anything, you carry out a behavior based on your genes
>>466040 The problem with that theory is that nobody exists in a vacuum. You are not self-contained. Every atom in a person's body changes frequently, and every part of a body is in constant interaction with other bodies. Thus, external influences have an outsized effect upon everything that an individual does, including tendencies and predilections.
>>466056 Your a ptheotype interacting with a ecology like every animal Humans make an artificial ecology that is better suited to their biology, making us even more genetic then most animals Just because we are not smart enough to know the math and points of data needed to make predictions, doesn't mean ascribe free will into the patterns of matter
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>>466056 Q1: "What is the objective of life?" A1: To approach the limit (unachievable yet infinitely approachable goal) of creating the most perfect form of life. Q2: "What is the most perfect form of life?" A2: The ultimate lifeform, an organism of the greatest genetic fitness and reproductive success, able to propagate as well as possible in as many environments as possible (relative to their complexity), most likely a highly technological species, as the extended phenotype of technology is the secret to expansion beyond ones environment of origin. Q3: "How does life approach this limit?" A3: Through competition and the elimination of the genetic contributions from instances of life that fail to meet the standards of furthering the proagation of their genetics, we find what works by eliminating what doesn't, we determine who is right by seeing who is left, the genes that can outlast all others and achieve the most success in spreading themselves, withstanding competing genetics and environmental conditions, are the best genetic traits. Q4: "What does this have to do with politics?" A4: Because as it stands today, politics are the biggest selective factor for the human species, who are currently the frontrunners of Earth's organisms for the closest to being the ultimate, most perfect lifeform. The best society is the one that best allows humanity to continually evolve itself closer to that unreachable ideal of an organism that not only spreads itself out into every environment, but one that completely transforms it, an organism that not only survives in every place it arrives in, but thrives everyplace it goes. I want the planets, their moons, their suns, and every other star or celestial body to be claimed by mankind. To this end, I've identified common themes that provide the best possible levels of advancement to human populations: #1: White Supremacy: White Men have demonstrated their capability to outpace every other phenotypic variety of the human species, so the ideal world will be one where all non-whites are extinct, other races whose existence is not detrimental to White Men, such as the East Asian race, may continue to exist, but ideally in different locations from where the White Man lives. We Ideally sbould be even more selective and aim towards the extermination of those whose eyes and hair are both black or brown, I'd like a White Race that has hair and eyes that are of the colors of the rainbow, blondes and redheads, blue eyes and green eyes, etc. These are recessive phenotypes that would indicate a genetic purity with their ubiquity. #2: Male Supremacy: The female sex cannot be exterminated without ushering in the mutual destruction of their male counterparts, but where we cannot kill them, we may still do everything short of that. All humans who lack a y-chromosome are to be placed outside of the law, made into property, not people, the laws should not offer them any rights, liberties, or inherent protections. What protection the law may provide them will come to them only as a consequence of being owned by a male, benefitting from his property rights insofar as that what any other male wishes to do with her may only be permissable by law if he has the consent of the male to whom she legally belongs. Make the entire female sex less than slaves, less than animals, make them objects, reduced to their utility in providing pleasure and reproduction. The reason things got so bad was that we gave the feminine sex too much freedom and respect to begin with. They should be the property of the males who claim ownership of like my phone is the property of myself, for me and others to do with as i please, at ny control. Note that I treasure my phone, but should i destroy of cause harm to it, or give another the permission to do so, there is no law stopping that from happening. #3: Human Supremacy: Other species may be evaluated on the basis of their urility to White Men, those with a negative impact will be exterminated, those with a neutral impact will be permitted to exist, and those with a positive impact will be kept and their populations increased. Non-humans will have far less rights and liberties than they presently do, which is to say, they will have none at all. To reiterate my central point here: rights and freedoms and property and tbe protections of the law are all only tp be given to White Men, nobody else, and nothing else, should have even a trace of them. #4: Adult Supremacy: Democrat supporting White Males should have the same status as females, personhood is acquited at the time when sperm production begins, no active testes, no rights or liberties, the protections of the law are afforded only to those who have reached the age that allows their body to make viable sperm cells. Perhaps this rule should also extend to the exclusion of those white males who lose their reproductive potency, such as elderly men and eunichs. So until reaching biological adulthood, white male boys will be the property of white male adults. #5: Straight Supremacy: Any Adult White Male who is discovered to have engaged in any behaviors with another male creature that could possibly spread a sexually transmissable disease from one to the other, will be exiled to a penal colony immediately, we want the fags in another location from the straights, we will do banishment rather than execution to help with discovery, and to encourage fags to turn themselves in for exile and request to be banished (theyd be in what is effectively their own country, just for queers, we could name it something like "new sodom"). Yes, they will still be fruiting it up, but fat away from men with their sanity and self respect, and it is the most effective means of diaposing of them (homos will always be getting born, so killing them will just translate to a bunch of butt bandits running about doing their perversions covertly and shitting everything up in the meantime). After establishing that everyone but straight white men are to be exterminated, enslaved, or exiled, we can move on to the second value of an ideal society: Freedom. We want the least government and law possible, only what is essential to the stability of the civilization. I like liberty because it is eugenic, the worst are permitted to die off whike the best are permitted to reap the rewards of ther merit, and propagate the genes that were vital to their success. For this reason, I would want Night-Watchman State Minarchism with the only laws aside from those listed above being those derived from the Principle of Non-Aggression, and it should be ruled by an absolute monarch as supreme authority, with ministers overseeing the different functions of the state. The duties of the government should be only reserved to the essentials: enforcing the law, defending the nation, and collecting taxes to fund the other two. For tax policy, I encourage a flat tax, where every person is expected to play the exact same sum. the only data neesed to be collected is a receipt to show whether or not the tax had been paid by the individual or not, those lacking the funds to pay and cannot find another who is willing to cover the expense in their names will be stripped of their rights until their debt can be paid off, this will be made easier by the fact that there would be no interest on this debt. The laws of the NAP should be simple: You own yourself and your property, anyone who wants to do anything that has a direct physical effect on your bodies or belongings must have your informed voluntary and ongiong consent to the action for it to be legally permissable. where informed = you know what you are consenting to, voluntary = your consent is freely given not coerced under threat or intimidation, ongoing = your consent has not been withdrawn since the time it was given. This should be the nature of our Imperium. But you faggots are too indoctrinated by the softness of modernity to see it for the perfect ideal that it is. Lose your misplaced compassion, stop killing yourselves for those who dont give a fuck about you.
>>466063 samefag herez just to add: Death to all jews, if there ia one race to wipe off the face of the Earth forever, it would have to be the kikes. Muslims have some good ideas, but the rest are shit, regardless, they are a continuing source of threat to us, we should wipe rhem out as well.
>>466062 >Your a ptheotype interacting with a ecology like every animal No you're not. You personally are a very specific block of ever-changing atoms. If what you were trying to say is "phenotype," that is nothing but a categorization of different individuals that human beings created for use in making practical observations. Never confuse the signifier with the signified.
>>466068 Ptheotype is a pattern of behavior determined by the pattern of matter it is categorization of groups, the individual cannot be categorized because it is not real
>>466069 What isn't that a lovely way to close logic around mindless assumptions! Patterns cannot exist without individual data points, so if individuals are not real then neither are patterns. On top of that, if matter is ever-changing, then so too are any patterns associated with it. Once again you are stuck with individuals not being any kind of genetic code. Face it, your brilliant philosophy is nothing but naked fallacies.
>>466073 No, matter's point and speed are determined by whatever the start of universe [God] at the start of the universe, meaning nothing anyone does or anything that happens can't out of God's plan so u cannot ascribe responsibility but you can find reasons, such as the reasons whites might die out is the industrial revolution is a dysgenic selection event, whites made the industrial revolution happen, meaning they have been evolving to cope with the dysgenics but the collapse won't happen the motor is simple enough to be compartmentalize so a dumber population can still use it so the whites can't get thier shit, and they have low negative ethnocentrism but thier extinction heightens the extinction chances of everyone else due to the lost of the race the closest adapted to high civilization and it's advancement, or at least I hope so if my ptheotype dies off Anyway, the individual is not real because there is no self so anything anything ascribed to self can only be nothing, and let's look at why we r alive? It is to die, because it is going to happen no matter what, no other reason, but maybe it is go back to God, that is why living is suffering, we taste hell to avoid it. No liberals in heaven (or if there are they are flesh light) or niggers, niggers can have thier own heaven however and they ain't allowed over And the reason my "philosophy" justifies racism is be "You" are your ptheotype or you are your genome with the physics around it and it is all determined That doesn't mean God can't like shit, such as adaptive behavior, the only context where racism isn't adaptive is when you're in a society ran by a death cult because the population is trying to make collapse happen so they can salvage thier ptheotype, they need selection via a harsh ecology. conservatives can be adaptive or maladaptive, liberals can only be maladaptive, that is why liberals takes take individual moral views and i will say the individualism exists as a set morals, equality and safety but the ground morals are more important by a factor of 10
>>466068 ship of theseus. Your entire material body is replaced conpletely every 6-8 years, so if you arent a physical body, a set collection of atoms, what are you? speaking from a humean perapective accotding to bundle theory, the ship of theseus has all the qualities that define it as being a ship that belongs to a man named theseus, both the replaced and the reconstructed ship are equally the ship of theseus, he has two ships. sinilarly, you change ever so slightly year by year, and even if you were to change drastically, youd have a continuity of memories to work with as a grounds to defube you as being you, even if you were to change dramatically in both physical and mental sense, thered be some link between you now and then, even if its as loose as having last seen in one form within the same locality as the form you take on next (the old "seeing the witch turn your friend into a frog/newt" scenario). if there were a teleporter that worked by making a perfect copy of you (physical and mental, including memory intact) ar the other side of the device, without destroying the original you, you could either say that both yous are the same person, or that the one distinction of the locality where you are vs the location of the copy sets you apart as meaningfully different people. damn, I gotta play SOMA again, get reacquianted with the "swampman" thought experiment.
>>466063 #1 and #3 are almost completely, if not completely, redundant. With such obviously retardation, it's clear what you say has little merit.
>>466079 > so if you arent a physical body, a set collection of atoms, what are you? That's because you don't treat matter and energy as interchangeable, even though one can become the other, and just talk about matter alone. This excludes memory, which is stored electro-chemically. You're also excluding necessary patterns in this definition. A ship isn't a ship anymore if all the same parts are arranged into a solid sphere, and the same goes for a person. The physical pattern is part of what defines a person, and though it shifts with time, every one is unique and has some necessary perpetual consistency. Patterns defining a person include the electro-chemical "chaos" that makes up consciousness and memory. Under normal circumstances, though these patterns are ever changing, there is some perpetual consistency to them that must exist in order for any long term memory to exist.
>>466056 >Thus, external influences have an outsized effect upon everything that an individual does, including tendencies and predilections. The reactions and behaviors to outside influences can simply be stated to be the predetermined result of genes. Any change in behavior can be attributed to genes as well, as different people may react to the same thing differently. >Inb4 twins acting differently disprove this It is impossible to create two perfectly identical environments to test this. There's too much chaos in reality. >>466075 >Suddenly God Then humans do have free will because my popularly believed in and scripture supported version of God said so. :^)
>>466095 the scripture has been jewed also if a lie is useful in getting people to act on more instinct, then the lie will become more prompted then the truth
>>466075 Okay, we're onto God magic now. That doesn't change anything. Patterns cannot exist without individual data points. >>466079 >ship of thesus Exactly. >so if you arent a physical body, a set collection of atoms, what are you? Here is where you make your mistake. You are your physical body, but your physical body changes. Thus, what you are now is not what you were, and what you will be is not what you are. A does not equal A. The point of contention is not when Theseus's ship stops being the same ship. It is the perspective from which one must say whether Theseus's ship is his ship or not--the position of the observer in relation to the ship of Theseus. >if there were a teleporter that worked by making a perfect copy of you (physical and mental, including memory intact) ar the other side of the device, without destroying the original you, you could either say that both yous are the same person, or that the one distinction of the locality where you are vs the location of the copy sets you apart as meaningfully different people. There isn't, and there can't be. Even if all the quarks were aligned perfectly,what is in one place is not what is in another place.
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>a thread about niggers on a subway turns into philosophical effort posting
>>466100 the points have been determined, statistics is a little dent in the knowledge of knowing, and it is kinda useless because they lie, unless you know how the experiment or survey was done, fuck you you don't know I know what sounds adaptive, that is what I try to base thinking around
they lie now, academia is propaganda the gene statistics was mixing bio with statistics that provided insight how niggers were the least related to everyone else
and I guess I may throw you a bone and say that the more intellect the more you can 'act' outside your genetic interests, probably the closest thing to 'free will' I can think of
>>466103 >the points have been determined No they haven't. If there are no individuals then no point has been determined.
>>466103 Unless you are not the same guy, in which case never mind.
>>466106 mods... looking at my IP? >No they haven't yes they have, if you had a computer powerful enough, and math advanced enough you could know the 'future' not knowing doesn't imply that that that point in time doesn't exist, we just have yet to pass through it everything has already happened, that is where i'm getting there is no individuals, there are individuals humans carrying out a path that has no choices, statistics is hindsight
>>466025 Its not fucking 2001 anymore. Nobody carries a briefcase except homeless schizos
>>466056 >nobody exists in a vacuum wrong
>>466109 Alright, you're just talking about God magic bullshit, so, once again, all your imperceptible patterns are just assumptions based upon one big baseless assumption--intelligent design. Hitchens's Razor.
>>466114 okay, people that have a faith of some kind can make populations that could get the fuck off the rock and maybe make civ around a black hole, your shit is extinction, there will never be an atheistic eternal civilization, there are parts of our brains that evolved for it
>>466114 also your god is science
>>466117 evolving*, we are not there yet
>>466100 lind of like how you can argue that 0 is a number because numbers are less standalone objects, and more a description of a kind of change that occurs. 0 = no change, +1 is a positive shift by the degree of 1, and -1 is a shift of the amount of 1 in a negative direction. >>466102 welcome, you must /b/ new here. >>466063 we need to work up the stength to say "yeah, it sucks to be that little girl (her dad, brothers, and uncles have already used her so well by now that they might have trouble finding anyone who'd buy her as their wife, and that's before all the other guys they'd whored her out to) but who gives a fuck about her? its best for us to have things be the way they are, with us at the top (the masters) and everyone else (still useful enough to us thst we allowed them the priviledge of a continued existence) at the bottom (as the objects we own and make useful to our wants/needs, which that little girl is one prime example of)." We need to become the worst type of monsters if we want to survive, but, be the sort of monsters that look out for our own kind.
>>466119 we can find a true paradigm based around evolution, the pursuit of becoming that evolutionarily perfect superorganism who could use technology to conquer the whole of the universe. though id slso be okay with us having a good religious faith thatd be conducive to pursuing the ultimate goal stated above.
>>466122 just got to talk things out sometimes tho that goal could include things we disagree on for ex. if higher social order collapses and there is a Neo Byzantium, and you and me get into, IQ, race(genes), skills, are musts if it is to not collapse too, we may disagree what races to allow, voting, the women... and the lovecarft god we trying to make it is a ways off, real problem we can't just live to survive because life is easy now, and the IQ has to get to 60 before things become unworkable
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>>466117 >okay, people that have a faith of some kind can make populations that could get the fuck off the rock and maybe make civ around a black hole Nevar forget that the people to lead humanity to take its first tentative steps off this planet were godless Soviets. >there will never be an atheistic eternal civilization Nothing is ever eternal. >>466118 >NO U! kek >>466121 >lind of like how you can argue that 0 is a number because numbers are less standalone objects, and more a description of a kind of change that occurs. >0 = no change, +1 is a positive shift by the degree of 1, and -1 is a shift of the amount of 1 in a negative direction. That is more of a linguistic point. >its best for us to have things be the way they are, with us at the top (the masters) and everyone else (still useful enough to us thst we allowed them the priviledge of a continued existence) at the bottom (as the objects we own and make useful to our wants/needs, which that little girl is one prime example of)." We need to become the worst type of monsters if we want to survive, but, be the sort of monsters that look out for our own kind. Unless your name is Bezos, Gates, Musk, or Buffett you were never master of anything. Don't fall for the intersectionality narrative. >>466122 >the pursuit of becoming that evolutionarily perfect superorganism who could use technology to conquer the whole of the universe >implying that is not the world-wide mad deadly communist gangster computer god's top secret overall play, namely the endless "Stairway to the Stars" using man-made inside-out planets with nulceonic powered speeds much faster than the speed of light
>>466152 >godless Soviets Based on the technical and mathematical might of people that were the benefit religions eugenics, they did very little of anything and they still had a little of the biology that religion gives you >Nothing is eternal You don't know what a population with an mean IQ of 400 points that maintains thier genetic health could do
>>466156 at points of selection collapse, social order following needs to happen to fix it problem is this civ is based on the motor, that isn't based on many genetic factors to keep going whites have a wider bell crave of a gene pool, and have behavior patterns that let those genetically deviate live to pass their genes on it allows for adaptation, and is another way of saying whites are more emphatic on the mean whites are evolved to be on a farm, with offspring and animals, but build up psychopaths they dump into cities that kills them, cites don't kill enough now, so the build up will be worse and worse until collapse no one is in their evolved to their evolutionary niche due to poor planing and ignorance
>>466173 Okay, you've given up on the discussion about godlessness seeming to lead to immediate and spectacular technological progress and are moving on to some nonsense about cities not killing people fast enough. Have fun with that.
>>466182 There is no way to prove God so all we got is the result of the evolution of those do believe and those that do not There are no people in world now that hasn't least been touched by God's evolution because you can't live without God in a setting that has not tailored to your sin ( your limits)
>>466186 Learn english
>>466186 And those who do not believe seem to have the far greater effect of what you call "evolution."
You only see what your eyes want see
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>>466188 Ah, no they don't or will ever The biology it takes to be smart can only happen when the population is breeding for the future, the only thing that gives people a reason to think about the future is religion and helps there be a future by linking the population's ptheotype with the religion Your population is crippled without some kind of religion. That the so far evolved west still has a religion, it is just a dealth cult that worshipping science
>>466193 Finally something worthwhile ITT
>>466195 They clearly do. The godless consistently outperform the religious in every cognative metric even when all other variable factors are controlled for. And when those factors are not controlled for the disparity is even greater. It is impossible to say whether religion causes people to be stupider or whether stupider people are more likely to find religion attractive, but the clear fact of the matter is that religious people test lower on intelligence tests than non-religious peoeple do commonly enough that there is an obvious attributable pattern. https://pmc.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/articles/PMC8836311/
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>>466206 >The godless consistently outperform the religious in every cognative metric <cognative
>>466235 You know, that thinky thing that other people do.
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>>466237 >other people <not you
>>466206 ah yae, let me trust the academia of suicidal society, why would you not academia is like a status thing, so don't trust it I like the stuff they find out what what we can see from our little shit ant life, like black holes or maybe life planets , but you could die at any-point, and not having something to feel grateful for that isn't something we can deal with, there of parts of your brain that are associated with religiousness that can be stimulated or suppressed by magnets, they also play a role in ethnocentrism
>>466249 we have the same physiology of people from 1600, the back you go the worse it will be when the 'flood' comes and industry isn't there to feed you, or save you from disease
>>466206 The problem is that when you leave religion, you go hard on the other poson of morality. most people never read machiavelli but they really should, he was the original stator of idea that religion and morality was nothing other than the most effective means suppressing violent dissent. look at the right, enduring unbearable conditions with no options for change within the system, held back by religion. look at the left, enduring unbearable conditions with no options for change within the system, held back by morality look at the far right or far left, or any other popular political ideology, its either the poison of religion or morality that holds them back in their thinking, which should be focused only on the greatest benefit and least detriment for themselves. without morals or religion wed be motivated by self-benefit, and not in the rendroid sense, either, who are still being told to do x or not do y within the moral framework of objectivism. what we should become instead is completely free to decide what it is that we want, and to do whatever it takes to get it. from there its just a matter of thinking practically and forming the most pragmatic society around all the individual wants of the strongest classes of people: straight, white, adult, male, humans. the entire world will be reorganized and remade around the maximal benefit and minimal detriment of this particular demographic. everyone and everything else will be either exterminated, enslaved, or exiled, depending upon their utility towards us. nonhuman species (defined by their lack of sexual interfertility with legal persons) who are a detriment to us will be exterminated, those who are a benefit to us will be enslaved, those who are neither fully positive nor fully negative in relation to us will either be made to fall into one of the two categories and treated appropriately, or they will be left alone. the female sex of the human species (defined by the lack of a y-chromosome) will be enslaved: all rights will be stripped of them, they will be treated by the law like nonsentient nonliving inanimate objects are, falling into the legal category of property, as opposed to being considered by law as persons, the law will offer them no protections, instead, the females will depend upon being the beneficiaries of the property rights of the male they belong to, such that the laws will protect them from anything to which the male who owns them does not consent to being done to/with them. the same would be true of children (defined in the biological sense), the production of sperm sex cells capable of reproduction should be another requirement for personhood, and those whose bodies are not doing so shall exist outside of the purview of the law as it applies to people, be they Democrat supporting boys who have yet to begin producing viable sperm, elderly geezers who have ceased viable sperm production, and men beyween those ages who have prematurely lost this ability or never acquired it un the first place, shall all be treated like the female under the eyes of the law. just as males who do not produce reproductively viable sperm are to be treated by the law as females are, nonwhites (defined first by having eumelanic skin and second by having eumelanic eyes and hair - being a person requires one of the four following traits: hair that is either blonde (yellow) or ginger (red), or eyes that are either blue or green) shall be treated as the animals are, either exterminated or enslaved, depending upon their overall usefullness vs harmfullness in relation to people. either they die out of lives as property, in the way that white females and male children do. persons who have either been involved in sexual activities with any being of the male sex, or been found to have had the desire to do so, shall be exiled to a penal colony along with any property that belongs to them, essentially it is an entire country, just for gay and bisexual people, and whatever property they could bring along with them, there they can fag it up in peace, as they will be entirely self governing, the reason for this leniency is to encourage the sodomites to turn themselves in for voluntary expulsion, rather than needing to be found out, it is for this reason that the other country should be a very pleasant place for the queers sent to live in it, itd be the ram ranch for dick/butt riding rodeos. works to get the homos away from us, and the females taken there with them could help to keep the biguys satiated as well. fruits will constantly be getting born or made, hence we must deal with gayness like death, taxes, or any other unavoidable reality, and simply find ways to minimize their bad effects upon ourselves. all solutions are imperfect solutions, but right here is how you get your perfect society. total dominancw by only one very specific group, and a means of dealing with the groupa you couldnt purge that is most effective for maximizing that groups benefit and minimizing their troubles.
>>466252 >just as males who do not produce reproductively viable sperm are to be treated by the law as females are, nonwhites (defined first by having eumelanic skin and second by having eumelanic eyes and hair - being a person requires one of the four following traits: hair that is either blonde (yellow) or ginger (red), or eyes that are either blue or green) shall be treated as the animals are, either exterminated or enslaved, depending upon their overall usefullness vs harmfullness in relation to people. either they die out of lives as property, in the way that white females and male children do. oh yea
>>466182 we know what makes technological progress: 1. sex 2. war 3. fanaticism (religious or political) 4. hunger we went to the moon because of 2 and 3. we made a lot of things because of 1, both literature and the internet were innovated largely for sexual need. the religious and political schoalars come up with stuff (3) that they didnt think were important even though they were world changing. one example were the modern number system, came uo with by indian mysticals and ignored for hundreds of years until arabs discovered them, and what motivated the arabs to adopt it? war. they were conquering the world and saw something useful to everything from logistics to seiges to battlefield applications. another example was the equations of the principa mathematica, we discovered them underneath the illuminationa of a bible from the dark ages, hundreds of years earlier, newton and leibnitz never goy to see it.
>>466253 my spelling was full of typos, so sorry. hope its readable to you regardless.
>>466237 cognitive
>>466254 retard
>>466255 I wasn't reading to to edit it, I am just in the person boat morally part of why religion is important, it effects evolution, liberals are not some equal in this equation, they are too much mutation in a person literally, a mind disease metaphorically, and a method nature makes the ecology collapse so no selection doesn't kill us off
>>466249 >ah yae, let me trust the academia of suicidal society, why would you not >academia is like a status thing, so don't trust it It is so much better to just assume your preferred conclusion, isn't it? That way there is no critical thinking or analysis required. >there of parts of your brain that are associated with religiousness that can be stimulated or suppressed by magnets Fucking magnets. >>466256 Eh. Fuck spell check. >>466259 >morally part of why religion is important, it effects evolution It does. It makes people evolve to be more stupid, apparently.
>>466259 the disease is that they love others more than themselves, that they desire equality and apply the same rules or standards to as many as possible, that they seek to reduce suffering and death for as many as they can, as much as they can, especially those who were the poorest performers, and they hate the peoole who had performed the best, they reward failure and unfitness and punish success and fitness. all traits shared in common with christian teachings.
>>466266 That what they say and that what elite ones use to perpetuate their status but really ae the embodiment of maladaptive behavior, spiteful, neurotic wanting power to feel safe
>>466264 >t does. It makes people evolve to be more stupid, apparently He says while being a product of that thing he claims makes one stupid via a media that is a result of the biology Christianity selected for Most of biological history, peoples believed in shit they could not prove, it allowed to live and cope in a world that does not care about thier suffering and behave as a adaptive group, these 200 years only prove that trying to not believe in anything is a decadence, a temporary thing that will kill you if you cannot let go when the hard times come > is so much better to just assume your preferred Better to go hungry, then to eat shit more like, but you do what want
>>466271 >He says while being a product of that thing You mean that thing that you must mindlessly assume exists? >Most of biological history, peoples believed in shit they could not prove Yes, people have always done stupid shit.
>>466272 There is no benefit to not believing, only detriments and you'll end believing in the decadence anyways What is mindless is looking back at the thing that shaped your DNA, and say "nah, that is of no consequence to me, my thoughts, feelings, actions are all independent from the thing that is composing me" You trust the academia of a society that wants to die, the only information it'll give you will help it die faster, again do what you want, but know you're a cuck Those people were smarter and better in every way due to not being a result of dysgenics, you and me are results dysgenics, so ease up on that feeling, okai
>>466276 >There is no benefit to not believing There is: it makes you smarter. https://pmc.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/articles/PMC8836311/
>>466277 Intelligence is determined by genes not what you fucking "know" dude Christ...
>>466278 Lel, so it doesn't matter that you can't demonstrate it. It's right there in your DNA, so you don't gotta prove nuffin!
>>466279 They can not look at your genome and tell how smart you are (yet) but know it is genetic due studies of eidetic twins separated at birth and raised by different families, they comparable IQs every time Knowledge doesn't make one intelligent
>>466281 So stupid genes made religious people stupider than non-religious people? Because they clearly are, regardless of what causes intelligence.
>>466286 Blind faith is inherently a low intelligence move, so most that have it are generally low intelligence, but those who lack it aren't necessarily, that much smarter either, and not having a productive faith to tard wrangle these other tards often makes them a greater trouble to society at large. Most of them just end up having faith in something non-religious to the point of almost blind faith anyways.
>>466292 So now we're on to, okay the faithless are smarter, but they're not THAT much smarter... a-and they're probably just true believers in something else anyway!
>>466293 This, but not facetiously. Being smarter than the average person doesn't mean much when the average is retarded, and the faithless have regularly been known to behave in a cult like manner over non-religious beliefs.
>>466286 Nah, most smart people just adopt whatever faith is dominant in their society because it helps them gain status, your retarded maladaptive faith in the material gained dominance due to white people being smart enough to to invent methods of constructing an artificial ecology with no selection pressure is present causing mutation to build up, the mutation are the liberals, and everything from equal rights to your retarded no god shit, it is all working to collapse the ecology maintaining no selection And I would really not base my identity around my intelligence in this time. We have lost so much of it due the dysgenics of the industrial revolution, I pity you, if you think your intellect is anything to write home about
>>466302 >>466297 Hey, whatever sad cope you want to use is fine, but you are no longer pretending that you and the other believers in Magic Sky Daddy are not Team Stupid anymore, right?
>>466311 No, the smart do what benefits them, if they need to believe in God, then they will or if they need believe that biology isn't real then they will Intelligence isn't intrinsically linked to being right or to or to gravitate towards the objective ideology, it is simply the capacity to apply skills You are not right either case, being smart doesn't make you an atheist nor have people been getting smarter for the last 200 years. But atheistism has grown due to the evolutionary mismatch we are in
>>466317 >Intelligence isn't intrinsically linked to being right or to or to gravitate towards the objective ideology, it is simply the capacity to apply skills <Stupid is as stupid does.
>>466321 You are stupid dude. intelligence while very important, isn't the only part of life and doesn't determine everything about someone
>>466323 Lel, we appear to have settled the point of the faithful being less intelligent than the faithless. What are you arguing now--that intelligence is not what drives technological advancement? Or just that your religion makes you somehow genetically special despite it also making you stupider?
>>466324 the smart would be faithful if the ecology had not been dysgenic for the past 20 years, and technological advancement is influenced by harsh selection as well as intelligence, people now are getting dumber because there is no harsh selection
>>466327 200 years*
>>466327 >the smart would be faithful if the ecology had not been dysgenic for the past 20 years, and technological advancement is influenced by harsh selection as well as intelligence, people now are getting dumber because there is no harsh selection Real technological advancement only starts occurring once harsh selection isn't happening and people have time to fuck around and find out how the laws of nature work.
>>466327 Now that is a whole new tack--the smart themselves would be faithful if not for the fact that something in their environment disinclines them toward superstition, and that something is that people are not dying fast enough. Is, then, the appeal of religion nothing more than a fear of death? Does it need widespread death to endure? That would seem to make apostasy a good thing, as it means that a mind is able to act without the constraints of fear upon it. Apart from that, you have the historical fact that >>466375 brings up, namely that technological advancement has always occurred when a significant portion of the population is secure, well-fed, and idle, that is not under threat of death. The conclusion that this line of reasoning seems to support is that security and idleness makes smart people less concerned about mortality which makes them faithless. Those smart faithless then put their efforts into technological advancement. Now, doesn't that make more sense given what we are looking at here?
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>>466302 >smart people just adopt whatever faith is dominant in their society because it helps them gain status, Those are psychopaths, son. That's not a question of intelligence.
>>466383 psychopathy is a spectrum, and smarter people see ways to act in thier self interest on a level dumber people can't was said in my post >>466377 Well other perks not having to about get murdered by other ethnic groups or your women getting raped by them, u can get adaptive lessons, you can get a community, I haven't gotten because I believe weird shit about the j man, like he had a pussy but was a man Religion is like a new form of rubbing like what apes do to reinforce thier bonds specific to humans (maybe whales but with song) >>466375 There is a few ways technology gets better, great men; the population is highly intelligent away but still under a harsh ecology and stuff come happen to babies to make thier brains only develop parts making them see world in new and potentially innovative ideas, whites evolved to exploit this, and stability, you are right the better and longer stability the more knowledge your society will be technology developed as long as your population is getting smarter and group oriented, the sand peoples evolved to exploit this I understand not being religious if you grew up in the states and it was cool to have nothing but hedonism to build your life around and who knows there is such a mutant build up, you may have roll that isn't religious to your core, that don't mean you represent a new ptheotype that will carry on civilization in a more enlightened way, "you" are are part of a force that exists to make make society Not work
>>466387 Not the getting smarter part, the sand peoples are evolved for stability, not getting smarter
If you want people to have several children each while being mindful of growth, then you want the prestige, renown, money, resources etc, not to go to the inventive but to the class of "ow my balls"-tier gladiatorial risk-takers instead. You basically want extreme contact sport with only moderate safety measures, as a way of regulating the life statistics via opt-in consent
>>466389 That's backwards, I'd say. The people who were responsible for literacy programs, a bunch of maths, and the Agricultural Revolution seem to me like they would be some clever motherfuckers if not for the fact that they can't stop killing each other long enough to get any proper thinking done.
>>466392 islam selects for ethnocentrism over intelligence, because when they get a civilization going, high ethnocentrism will keep it going and you don't need to be smart to learn things that be built up by the generations, how to grow food in what time of year and where, how to keep inventory, how to build something your ancestors wrote down doesn't high intelligence, leaps forward do need high intelligence, both for the change to happen, and for it be accommodated, doesn't happen for them because they are a people that maintain their way of life because their way of life is makes them dominant in group selection
>>466394 >islam selects for ethnocentrism over intelligence, because when they get a civilization going, high ethnocentrism will keep it going Nope, not seeing that. >and you don't need to be smart to learn things that be built up by the generations, how to grow food in what time of year and where, how to keep inventory, how to build something your ancestors wrote down doesn't high intelligence Is that what you think developing large-grain plant species and algebra are?
>>466387 >ptheotype You keep saying this. Do you mean phenotype, or is this just a word you made up? The only other place this term has been used even once is ziggerchan. You also have a bunch of grammar errors. Are you ESL? It's difficult to have a constructive discussion on nuanced topics if you aren't fluent in the language used.
>>466402 No phenotype, most of this is coming from a phone and misspell words elsewhere to avoid automated systems but still want people to know what I'm talking about
So my auto correct is fucked and I'm fluent in English, but like anything I say or anything you do is going to affect anything, it ain't worth dealing with a phone's input to correct it Ya know?
>>466398 they marry their 1st cousins dude >you think developing large-grain plant species and algebra are? yeah, generational knowledge as well as a per made foundation for you build on if the sand peoples were evolved to have and maintain a highly intelligent population on top of their ethnocentrism, we wouldn't be alive as the populations descended from would have been conquered and would the sand people would have incorporated the conquered genes into their genome long ago, and would be probably be an working on colonizing the solar system, but they ain't because ethnocentrism is better bet long term for group selection over intelligence, but will cause them to stagnant and die off when something happens that changes the ecology, like a ice age
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>>466407 >they marry their 1st cousins dude Agrarians always do that, especially the ones who raise animals. Hell, the American southerners were doing that mid-way through the twentieth century. Check out the American history of incest laws. >yeah, generational knowledge as well as a per made foundation for you build on Algebra is not "generational knowledge," whatever that is supposed to mean. >if the sand peoples were evolved to have and maintain a highly intelligent population on top of their ethnocentrism, we wouldn't be alive as the populations descended from would have been conquered So the conquerors are always the stupider people. That is a pretty hot take you have there.
>>466409 incest doesn't happen that much in the west, not even in the same ball park as them, 3rd cousins is the sweet spot for both, but they do 1st cousin for ethnocentrism, at the cost of intelligence due to the inbreeding, that is even something your midwit ass can see >Algebra is not "generational knowledge," whatever that is supposed to mean. dude, it is like the spear, or covering yourself to not die from exposure, it is such a basic thing that everyone else had something similar, they just have a long enough history (that they really just want to use to make them look good) that they have memories of it being used, and their language and symbols might have seep in, but they didn't invent math, and they really didn't invent the higher disciplines of math we in part owe the modern world to >So the conquerors are always the stupider people not always, but sometimes, the smart can be converted to a maladaptive death cults easier, then dumb people, because dumb people are more instinctive
>>466410 >incest doesn't happen that much in the west, not even in the same ball park as them It did a little less than a hundred years ago. Regarding cousin fucking as incest is a fairly recent industrial development. >dude, it is like the spear, or covering yourself to not die from exposure Developing higher maths is like making a spear or wearing clothes. How far up your own ass did you have to reach to find these nuggets? >the smart can be converted to a maladaptive death cults easier We have already determined that smart people and religious people are two distinct groups.
>>466412 >algebra >higher maths Maybe if you're an inbred sandnigger regard.
>>466412 >>466412 >egarding cousin fucking as incest is a fairly recent industrial development. Do you live in fucking pakistan or germany you fucking ingrate.?
>>466413 Or if you lived before the tenth century.
>>466412 incest is part of evolution, and cousin marriage was normal up until deep into the industrial ecology, and is the healthiest thing to do if you want to love your offspring as much as you can, and you can love your cousin more then a random member of the pop, and it was normal around to marry your 3rd cousin until industrialized this ties to a bunch of shit, genetic similarity dictates how well you can trust someone, how well your society works, a bunch of other shit most likely
>>466419 literal paki tier.
>>466420 k, i still do not agree that being smart makes you not believe it god, only that an unhealthy pop will not believe in god
>>466421 Yes, a healthy society is a bunch of delusional inbreds. It all makes perfect sense.
>>466430 You aren't sane, no human ever has been, literally all I got is my shit works better for longer, your shit leads to decline and eventually enslavement, having the most accurate view of the material isn't factoring in when the results are like this
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>>466405 >>466403 >Phoneposting Melanin enriched behavior, regardless
>>466438 you know what is also nigger behavior, beating a coal burner whore in the presence of her niglet after she thinks she can fuck the racism out of you and you get her alone because of that I'll be a nigger, it is fine, especially now people just use 'you're acting or thinking like a nigger' as code for behave and think in a maladaptive way the thing that defines a nigger other then the morph, is his inability to think or do anything for the future, and this society has no future, I'm white, I live in the future, but this society has no future, so I'm living in somewhere between hopelessness and the confusing fact that society isn't facilitating my phenotype's interests, and won't even allow a peaceful breaking up, thus I should hate this society but that is a liberal perspective, and I hate all liberals, but they facilitate the collapse of the society they live in, so I should like them, but I don't anyway, any conduct I have is fine, because this society and it's rules aren't worth considering, and you're trying to imply that whites should have a etiquette due to their genes, then my counter is that they are genetically unhealthy, anything they do and anything they think is from of composer meat that shouldn't have been allowed come about, maladaptive is the only behavior they can exhibit for the most part, so why value the behavior ?
>>466599 >the thing that defines a nigger other then the morph, is his inability to think or do anything for the future That's a jewish psyop. Only negros can be niggers, by definition. White people cannot be niggers. First they have you believing in so-called "White niggers," then they'll have you believing in women with penises, or pregnant men. I don't care that your Southern pawpaw taught you nigger means ignorant person. He was mislead by kikes.
>>466603 I wasn't trying to imply that, I saying that whites can exhibit behavior that is expected from niggers, due to the genetic unhealthy of the whites as well as the whites not being an environment that they evolved to be in niggers are distinctive phenotype and can not be part of the ethinic groups of Europe
I live in toronto canada, by far the most religious parts of ontario are the big cities, they have a lot of christianity going on here amongst the whites. People who think the cities are atheistic havent spent a lot of time in the cities. Since there are places with lots of atheism, but religion is also alive and well here. In the small towns people are more passively religious, like they dont give a shit and are christian by default, in the cities they are much more actively christian, preaching in the street, helping the poor, protesting, etc. Now i realize that attitude towards religion is probably more important than religiousity. I am an atheist, but i probably agree more and get along better with rchristians from small towns than atheists from big cities.
>>467259 >towards religion is probably more important than religiousity Oh you are religious, you just worship death and the material The only reason everyone isn't super religious in an adaptive way now is because of the dysgenics of industrialization


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