Reading the reply chain, since you're kind of doing a budget build its probably good enough as long as you have redundancy in software though.

>>982874 I see so do you suggest me either build a proper NAS from scratch or buy a machine from a NAS from a known vendor such as Qnap or terramaster? I also forgot to ask, a UPS would be needed to avoid data corruption on the DAS in case of a power outage? >>982875 Yeah, the laptop works just fine and it already solves all my NAS related issues aside from the storage, so I think it would be better to keep working on it rather than buying/building a dedicated device.I also think it's a fun project to see what else can be done with outdated or disused devices. >its probably good enough as long as you have redundancy in software though. I want something that could work as a place to store all my series and movies and as a torrent server. I don't really have a lot of important stuff there, but it would be a pain in the ass to rebuild my collection from scratch, so I'm planning to start with two 4TB drives and set them in RAID 1.

>>982845 Different RAM ICs (and also rank setups) have different setting they can handle / like running at, when you only have one type of ICs it's usually easy for the mobo to auto set some settings for it, when you don't it gets very confused as does your MC Most systems are now designed to run best with one or two sticks of RAM, usually people with uneven RAM have all 4 slots populated making it way worse (though two unmatched sticks can already be fairly bad.

>>982878 If you don't already have some spare desktop components to build it's probably best to look into how those vendor ones handle hdds and migrations, synology uses a proprietary filesystem which can only migrate to other systems by them, but I think can add drives with redundancy one at a time instead of a fixed number of drives at a time like zfs, for example. From there it's just figuring out how any storage upgrades would be handled, one mirrored pair to another or one pool of 4 to another pool of 4, or one device to another entirely, whatever you think you need or can afford. If you want to manage the nas os maybe a used dell r730xd with 8 3.5" drive bays can be of interest for around $500 or less, but it might be noisy, bulky, and power inefficient in comparison. Building your own out of desktop components would be about on par unless you start looking at specific parts for power efficiency. It comes down to if you want to start bothering with servers and virtual machines too or just network storage and possibly user-submitted torrent software for vendor NASs, since managing the OS yourself can be a headache. As for the UPS it's worthwhile to get one since it can maybe power your router/modem too, some rack hardware can have a battery for the write controller too but it'd consider it less reliable.

>>982761 What case did you buy?

>>982796 >Basically making a computer that will be difficult to upgrade down the line. Which would make things more expensive down the line.

>>983050 Sure, except you explicitly asked for the cheapest computer than can run existing games, not future ones. You get cheap computers by cutting corners and limiting your options. You get good computers by spending more money. If you want cheap hardware with no compromise then you hunt for sales during black friday and christmas.

>>983050 >>982796 >>983054 You can sorta make a decent compromise with current gen stuff, If you're going for a 12100 / 12400 / 7500f / 7600 / 85400f / 8500G as a base you can just put an extra 20-50 bucks on a mobo that will handle anything on the socket just fine and have a decent upgrade path With intel it's slightly less of a good compromise because there's gonna be less difference from that cheap CPU to the last flagship (14900KS) but on AMD provided you're starting from the 8400F you're going from a very meh 2+4 cores to whatever the Zen6 flagship is gonna be.

Does anyone know what the best streaming client PC would be that isn't some chink mini PC? I'm very cautious about the mini PC's flooding the market right now as they are all made by very chinky companies and some have been shipping with malware out of the box. I've heard mixed things about the new raspberry pi's. Then there's the nvidia shield devices, but those are proprietary software with microphones built into them which is annoying.

>>984486 >I'm very cautious about the mini PC's flooding the market right now as they are all made by very chinky companies and some have been shipping with malware out of the box. Just bring your own drive and install everything by yourself. I'm turning an AMD laptop into a streaming box, my OS is mint. I have a samba server and kodi configured already, only a decent YT client that could work from the TV is missing.

>>984496 >Just bring your own drive and install everything by yourself. I'm paranoid to the point where I imagine them having compromised motherboard firmware. But after doing some more research it seems like the raspberry pi 5 can handle 4K 30FPS streaming. It's just a problem of not being a licensed device for streaming from major platforms, but I don't really care about that since most of the streaming will be done from jellyfin.

>>984486 Shame you really don't want chink mini PCs because an N100 based one is pretty much what you want One of the big names has one however, but that's over 2x the price. > It's just a problem of not being a licensed device for streaming from major platforms I think the N100 is fine on that front though I might be wrong.

>>984510 >I think the N100 is fine on that front though I might be wrong. Doesn't matter if the hardware is licensed if the software isn't. You need to be running windows, and using microsoft edge browser to get anything above 720p on netflix, and presumably most other streaming services. Even if you set them to 1080p it will just output 720p without telling you. So if I need a device to stream from the nigger sites for family I'll probably just get an nvidia shield as it seems like the least cancerous of the proprietary devices.

>>984512 Just get an Amazon Fire Stick or whatever for that type of thing, and consider it separate but complimentary to your video game device.

>>984515 Why would I get a fire stick over an nvidia shield?

>>984517 Because I must have misread your intentions due to being a retard.

>>984510 >>984512 There are a couple of motherboards that come with the N100 built in, if you are willing to do your own NAS/HTPC build. Asrock has two boards with 1 M.2 SSD slot, 2 SATA connectors and a 2 lane PCIE slot (you can drop a SATA card in here for more drives)

>>984522 There's just no logical reason to go with an N100 as a 4K streaming client if a raspberry pi 5 can do 4K 30fps HDR. The raspberry pi would be like a third of the total cost in a significantly smaller form factor. I already have a sever, all I need is a cheap means of displaying the content on the TV that is 4K capable. Of course the TV's already have capable computers built right into them, but they are infested with chink spyware so they simply never get access to the network to begin with. I have a bunch of old laptops lying around but they are old enough that their GPU's can't output 4K resolution. Otherwise I'd just use those.

>>984526 The thing with the Raspberry is that they are hard to find, sometimes are overpriced and you'll have to get a case, cooling solution and power source, so once you start adding up you'll end on miniPC ranges, also you'll be using ARM which is sometimes harder to get things working compared to x86.

>>984535 They are on Amazon right now for less than $100. I don't think they are hard to find anymore. >sometimes are overpriced and you'll have to get a case, cooling solution and power source, so once you start adding up you'll end on miniPC ranges It's about $150 with a fan and PSU. Still under the miniPC range and is a known open source secure system unlike the Mini PC's. >also you'll be using ARM which is sometimes harder to get things working compared to x86. Doesn't matter for basic tasks such as being a jellyfin client.

>>984535 rpilocator.com has it in stock everywhere

>>984541 >Still under the miniPC range Nope

>>984660 The only mini PC that reaches the raspberry pi price range are used HP/lenovo machines. And the mini PC's that come close to that price are all made by the sketchiest no name chink companies possible.

>>984541 A pi5 8 gigs w/ case, cooling & AC adapter is about $130 in yuroland

>>984791 I have seen that the Pi5 does 4K60, but what are my options for 4k120/144 w/ HDR via HDMI2.1? I ask because I am running Winders 11 and I would like to go Linux full-time, but I swap displays from my monitor to my TV for various tasks, and while I really couldn't give less of a shit about gaymin in HDR (what games worth giving a shit about even support HDR?) I DO give a shit about being able to use it for proper movies. And yes, while I know that most films are 24fps, being able to output at 120 helps a LOT with stutter. I already have multiple different compact PCs kicking around, but there's not really any cheap/easy options to get a GPU to output 2.1

>>984878 I've heard HDMI 2.0 doesn't work fully in Linux due to licensing issues, and same with HDMI 2.1

>>984879 And there's not any reliable HDR implementation anywhere in Linux from my understanding, I guess KDE Plasma kind of implements it via Wayland? This shit is why I stick to Winders, as much as I hate the OS.

>>984879 Most linux-oriented devices have a hardware converter for the port for physical hdmi to a kernel-presented displayport, but obviously that's added cost and pcb real estate. I would probably wager the raspi does that if the specs match up.

anyone here know how to deal with a WHEA logger 18 Machine Check Exception error? basically I'll be playing a game and suddenly my PC will black screen and restart. I tried various things, and although the crashes have stopped for now, I don't know if I solved the problem or if I'm just stricken with temporary luck. if you've experienced this problem before, got any advice?

>>984886 If you're running a RAM OC or a CPU OC it's too strong / not juiced with enough voltage. If you're not, you have a dud CPU

>>984886 As >>984893 says it seems like the best solution is to just RMA the CPU. But I would try reinstalling the CPU, undervolting, and changing ram speeds if you haven't already. Basically everything I read about the error is wildly different. Some people are saying it's some random ryzen utility software, some are saying it's their GPU drivers. You could try running linux to troubleshoot if it's a software issue, but I doubt it actually is. But the easiest and simplest is to cry to AMD and just get a replacement.

>>984879 I think it works on Nvidia funny enough, don't quote me on that though.

>>984964 Because nvidia's shit is proprietary and isn't in the kernel. You could probably get it working with proprietary AMD driver's as well, which do exist for linux I believe.

>>984969 Ah, that makes sense then

>>984893 >>984961 thanks guys. I did some investigation myself and came to the same conclusions. might just have to go with intel this time.

>>984996 Changing platforms will be ridiculously expensive. If you have a dud CPU it should get replaced by AMD.