OP of our last GIF thread.

>>1031296 Accidentally deleted the Blue Virus APNG, someone else will have to post it

>>1031294 Looks like ezgif made it bigger after downscaling from 444 x 384 to 148 x 128 as it didn't nearest neighbor and added colors. Doesn't animate without having to click on it, under what sizes animate? Original GIF in this post, if someone with tools can make it a 148 x 128 APNG using nearest neighbor.

>>1031298 >under what sizes animate? 2nd pic was the biggest I could get before having to click on it at 25.00 KB+

>>1031296 >>1031297 Were you the guy claiming the MC thread was full of viruses?

>>1031301 No, I just converted them to APNGs from the original GIFs that were posted.

repostan

Think I know why there was trouble with the Mario GIF, there's nearly 900 frames despite the colors being simple. If you can get the same effect but reduce the number of frames it should convert better. 2nd pic in this post has 30 frames but it had to be really shrunk down to stay under 25kb

https://ezgif.com/resize using Gifsicle, not ImageMagick, resized by nearest neighbor so combine https://ezgif.com/resize with https://ezgif.com/gif-to-apng if resizing a GIF. >>1031301 Many made that claim, not one guy. The OP of that Minecraft thread was the one guy switching IPs and projecting a narrative it was one guy. Some shared evidence it badly behaved, like the guy who proved it detected if it was being run in a VM or virustotal. The evidence got deleted then the OP said there's no evidence. Not going near this topic again, I don't want to get banned.

>>1031308 NES ran at 60 so if the GIF's nearly 15 seconds the maker may have wanted NES framerate. Here's ezgif-mario-resized.png resized with https://ezgif.com/resize, then converted to APNG and optimized with https://ezgif.com/gif-to-apng.

Also if you want to test your APNGs out before posting them in this thread, use of the threads in >>>/test/

All of my desktop image viewers don't seem to like APNGs. They either say it's not supported, or only show the first PNG frame.

>>1031314 I use InfarView, it works there at least.

Here's a neat comparison between the APNG & GIF animation of Netscape, both of them resized to stay under 25KB This is the biggest working APNG in terms of file size and at 38 frames which dwarf both the korean fried chicken & spinning big think As you can see, the GIF has to be clicked on to be animated. The APNG meanwhile just keeps chugging along with no problems

>>1031312 Good idea for others. I'm done my tests and my good idea for others is "combine https://ezgif.com/resize with https://ezgif.com/gif-to-apng if resizing a GIF." No way I go under 25 KB if under 25 animates. >>1031308 means framerate would be 7, not 60. GIF >>1031309 is 192.82 KB and APNG >>1031311 is 196.32 KB, around the same size, so APNG size benefits depend on the GIF but APNG animating under 25 KB without having to click on it justifies file conversion.

>>1031315 >InfarView That's a good program to use to reduce the color depth of the animated pics or their frames

Testing.

Think of how lively dance threads will be using these APNGs! Link also has 70 frames but I imagine with less colors used on him, it was no issue in getting the animation to play

>>1031318 Thanks doc

It's already been mentioned in the sprite thread from OP but the APNG animations will keep playing even in the thread catalog. Any CSS theme made could change the size of the catalog thumbnails, but most of them do not modify the values for consistency reasons & is best if they remain that way. So while 220px x 220px & 25kb are the maximum sizes for a single file in a post before it needs to be clicked on, the catalog thumbnails don't go above 128px x 128px. If you plan to make threads using an APNG for the catalog thumbnail or want to reduce space so that you can squeeze the detailed frames in, follow the bolded text above as a guideline for great quality. Otherwise you can ignore it & stick with the previously mentioned sizes for posts. Imagine if you will, someone makes a Kirby thread and used pic related.

Oldfags will remember 8chan used to have animated gif thumbnails, too.

PSY anon here from the WebM thread, this is a GREAT thread. Unfortunately unless I learn more about the format and how to properly crunch down the bytes I don't see myself using the format often. I tried to convert a Super Mahjong animation of 11 frames and it took reducing the color palette to 16 colors to fit within these confines. 25kb and 220x220 PX is too restrictive, I would give anything for the CSS to be modified to expand these limits. I haven't gotten the chance to use proper compression like OxiPNG but 25kb, as much as compression has advanced, does not offer a lot of space. Also, Acid and Codexx, animated AVIF and JXL support would be great.

i want to impregnate Mai Shiranui. Multiple times.

>>1031374 >I would give anything for the CSS to be modified to expand these limits. I don't think it's CSS that's causes the compression of a file above 25kb and/or 220x220 PX, it seems more like the code the site runs on. That pic still came out very nice though! That's the kind of thing you would see on Geocities. There was the Geocities GIF archive provided by archive.org but they're still down, so it remains inaccessible. https://gifcities.org

Retrying!

>>1031391 Good job, all of them work!

>>1031314 This is the best I could make Vivian look

Decided to change my workflow. Apparently my first test for some reason is very hard for APNG to compress. These five pieces fared much better due to being more simplistic. Still experimenting.

Is there a way to do this natively on my computer? I'm moving away from ansolutely everything being an online service.

>>1031407 Sure. https://ffmpeg.org/ffmpeg-formats.html#toc-Options-11 https://github.com/apngasm/apngasm A lot of these websites just cobble together a bunch of scripts and utilities that are already available and give you less control over them as opposed to running them on desktop (example: say you want to use pngquant and then OxiPNG to compress your PNGs, most websites deny you access). It's why I want to eventually try APNGs by constructing them from raws on desktop once I figure out the workflow and optimal settings, and why I want more modern formats like JXL supported.

I just thought of something! So the colors have to be very limited, right? And the images have to be small in size so that it's not over 25kb, correct? We also had the Mario Paint thread with the various contributions made that, barring some exceptions, were mostly 256 x 224 px in size >>958116 There's a very nifty idea to make some cool APNG animations out of Mario Paint drawings! Unfortunately, I don't know if the game resolution can go lower than the above size & still look sharp.

>>1031417 Forgot to add >most of the drawings are also under 25kb

Does this count?

Why not add the .apng extension to the file picker? Drag and drop already works.

she's so fucking tiny bros

>>1031284 >APNG Is this another webp shit from jewgle.

>>1031474 Not at all, it's an extension of the png standard made by Mozilla back when they were good. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Apng

>>1031473 You are not on 4meme please do not talk like this >>1031474 It's quite an old format actually, newfag-kun. There used to be threads for it ten some years ago. It took over a decade for non-Mozilla browsers to add support. Chrome only supported it in 2017 despite the format existing since 2004. This is probably the biggest reason the format never really caught on.

>>1031314 I'd recognise that pantyhose ass anywhere.

This involved lots & lots of cropping to achieve passable results. Posted the GIF source if anons want to give it a try, lot of angles that can be cropped & posted. Have not tried 3rd GIF yet

APNG is such a niche format, its usage outside browsers is basically 0. I hope they hurry up on the Firefox jxl rust decoder. With jxl you'll be able to have lossly or lossless animations at even smaller size. >>1031374 >animated AVIF Garbage. It has neither progressive decoding nor video compression, so it's really shit for animations because you can't play them back until everything is loaded.

>>1031642 I actually agree, but until Acid and Codexx change the site's fork to support JPEG-XL or I learn enough webdev to suggest a commit to Aleph Gulag is inexplicably going to try to cockblock it. The cockblock essentially stems from JXL and AVIF being developed by separate Gulag teams and one team getting pissy over JXL being better and shoehorning in AVIF (and I say this as an AV1 proponent). People who don't know what SSIMULCRA2 is are going to go with whatever is pushed onto their shitplates like VP8-derived WebP and soundless 4MB webms, or bitcrushed H.264 videos from Xitter and watermarked verticals from Douyin. Some CDNs, however, are seeing the light and starting to use JXL in their backends, and Gulag released a new encoder for JPEG that derives from JPEG XL (though I suspect it's more to do with trying to muscle it out). I really hope JXL can be implemented in the future.

I love osaker

Continuing to experiment I decided to try one-bit APNGs with the 1st Chaika animation, and it worked so well I tried to apply it to other ones. No such luck, as only a few images can work in pure black and white. Overall, I don't see the point of striving so hard to work within these limits if you have to employ so many workarounds like this is 2012 Tumblr, it defeats the point of APNG being supposedly better than GIF if you have to reduce the color range just like GIF anyways to get the size and video formats can compress to similar sizes without those concessions. There are lossy PNG compression tools I should have tried but I don't have a Wangblows machine on me right now. https://css-ig.net/pingo >>1031717 Hope the limitations are lifted so we can see more fun stuff. JXL automatically addresses such bandwidth concerns.

>>1031296 blue ain't working for me

>>1031374 >JXL for ye (ungoogled) chrome niggas: chrome web store *point* google *point* com *slash* detail *slash* jpeg-xl-viewer *slash* bkhdlfmkaenamnlbpdfplekldlnghchp

>>1031795 Because it's larger than 220x220.

>>1031799 ah, that it is

Really spooky stuff. Really big GIF collection that can be mostly converted without much fuss: https://www.gifs-paradise.com/

>>1031906 I just spooped myself.

>ffmpeg -i spookymonth.gif -filter:v "crop=220:192:40:0" -plays 0 spookymonth.apng Wow, that was easier than expected. Unlike the second pic, custom timings from image sequences don't seem to encode right to apng, at least when tested on Firefox

>>1031284 >>must not exceed above above 220px x 220px in image size Is that just for thumbnails, or even expanded images? Two-frame non-looping APNGs are a useful way to have a mismatch between thumbnail and full-size.

smells like early 2000s internet in here

>>1032013 >>1032015

>>1032012 FUCK YOU

Oh hell yes. Finally, after years, an excuse to dump these apngs I stitched together from the game files.

>>1032096 do you

>>1032116 Do I what?

>>1032143 That seizure image got someone arrested because he sent it to a jew.

Not so spooky

>>1032014 And that's a good thing!

>>1032118 Now prioritizing the files that will autoplay. God I love Hydrus. They're only a handful of the total.

>>1032118 the bug

The move fast and animate snake.

>>1032267 >>1032268 DO YOU WANT A BANANA?!

>>1032267 >>1032268

I WANT TO FUCK MOTHIVA. >>1032215 Which one?

>>1032320 i remember the grashopper guy's sister being thirsty for his bug cock

OP is a...

>>1032320 t. Zasp

>>1032413 >F A G >OP is a... What did he mean by this? >>1032408 She's also jealous of his fawning over a "barely legal" seems kinda loli-ish moth girl. Here she is still in larval form. Her adult form is too big to auto-animated.

Lotsa critters.

Converting from gif thread.

Forgot dimensions.

Forgot dimensions.

These are the last ones that should auto-animate.

>>1032269 peel it down and go mh mh mh mh

>>1032619 Mein neger.

>>1032320 all of the above

Here's another cool idea for APNGs in black & white: Game & Watch

>>1032626 Here's another you could try >>1004748 >>1004833 >>1003515

>>1031298 I converted this by removing most frames.

>>1032630 I think it looks pretty convincing, don't you?

>>1032638 IT'S JUST LIKE MY LCD ANIMES!

Besides the black & white Game & Watch example posted previously, it may help if the color palette is also like the original Game Boy with a few shades of green. Haven't had luck on Virtual Boy yet

My top 20 of videogames apngs, hover the numbers to view. a >>1032617 b >>1032637 c >>1032248 d >>1032629 e >>1032634 f >>1032631 g >>1032675 h >>1032626 i >>1032600 j >>1032334 k >>1031393 l >>1032608 m >>1032623 n >>1032603 o >>1031305 p >>1032620 q >>1031427 r >>1031339 s >>1031330 t >>1032268

>>1032699 Please stop.

>>1032712 He contributed a navigable index of neat APNGs, you contributed nothing. You stop being a discouraging shithead.

>>1032735 >created an index Are you just retarded or something? All he did was badly reply to posts that already existed. Literally just go through the thread yourself, that's what its there for. "Contributing" would actually be posting APNGs yourself.

>>1032742 Nah. Mass replies just make a thread messy. >>1032625 Only the girls.

>>1032780 >Then stop mass replying with bugs Strawman. >The game has a homosexual crossdresser >It's a serial killer villain You think this an argument that game is in favor of homosexuality? >half your Buggery Fables don't animate in thread view because you don't know what you're (over)doing. Read my posts. I'm aware. I made these years ago.

>>1032782 I don't say this with the vitriol of 31ba7d (insults rarely change minds), but the flooding's a bit much. Someone in >>>/vb/5275 suggested last night to organize these there.

>>1032784 Do you know what flooding is? I'm not the one posting five single file posts in a row each under one minute after the last. I've been making sure not to double post because I didn't want my posts overrunning the thread. Also /vb/ is practically dead compared to /v/. It's just another failed attempt to redirect off-topic posting away from the the most popular places for it, just like the lounge thread in relation to to the GamerGate thread. But sure, I'll dump the rest there all at once since no one cares if I actually flood a dead board. >I don't say this with the vitriol of 31ba7d I sincerely doubt that, considering you're the 4th (1) in a row to join this discussion on that side while not posting any apngs at all. I'm wagering you don't give a shit about my bugs one way or the other, but are trying to playing nice now, even though you still couldn't help but accuse me of flooding, just so you can be rid of me, because you're unreasonably upset that I and one other fag expressed distaste for your post making a mass reply. But this is all just conjecture, and I'll fuck off regardless since the rest of my apngs don't auto-animate.

>>1032742 >from a thread 64 pages long This has to be bait, no one could possibly be that retarded.

>>1032782 It's some sperg upset with you, please ignore him and continue with da bugs. There's nothing he can really do if you just don't talk to him.

Something weird's afoot: the bugposter's obviously generated a bunch of (1)s to pile on a buried post of no significance in a big thread. I'll write how further on. >>1032788 By flooding, I mean overwhelming this thread with very similar posts. Single or double file, it's a flood. >/vb/ is practically dead It has almost 6000 posts in a few months. >just so you can be rid of me, I don't "get rid of you" on /vb/, I obviously browse /vb/, or I couldn't have relayed 5879 from /vb/. I didn't even see the quotes post you didn't like when I posted, just 31ba7d from the index, and my post was unrelated to it. I scrolled up to figure out what you're even talking about. I know people project, so your accusation makes it obvious you're the (1) flood in your other argument that 8eb3db mentioned, where you pile on some buried post in a big thread. When 8eb3db figured out your (1) flood, you went to your standard ID to express the same distaste, then 2 other (1)s, 1dfe12 and 51c882 above this post, came after my last post to do the same. So now it's obvious you're 4 (1)s here. I wouldn't even have read up enough to notice this if you hadn't projected. And 3 people, not 4, mentioned your bugflood. Your story's that, since I arrived to a thread only 4 days old, to relay 5879's post, and gently recommend the bugflood to a Bug Fables thread, I'm 4 different people, including one who doesn't exist, awake and online all night and morning only to get you, all because these people, actually 1 person, didn't post images, but 8eb3db posting an image and not being (1) doesn't count, and I went back in time, to before a post that supposedly upset another me who isn't me, to suggest you bugpost in a Bug Fables thread, all to get you out of my sight on a board that's necessarily in my sight for me to relay 5879's post at all. >But this is all just conjecture It's my more plausible conjecture you're involving me in what's not my business, over one gentle post, because you can't accept when people don't think the same as you, rationalizing everyone as the (1) generator that you are.

For something that bombed, or is the bomb.

Acid's post here reminds me >>1031717 >Agifs got turned off because the thumbnail generation process was kinda resource hungry, so we'll see if pngs are the same way. If not then we'll leave em alone, so have fun. Let's do a quick performance check on the browser Is this thread still good to navigate & the APNG animations still playing smoothly with the massive amount of them posted here, or has there been a noticeable slowdowns on your end?

>block of replies like it's cuckchan >some utter retard talking about how a 150-post thread is 64 PAGES LONG ZOMG >walls of text about who is samefagging as who >newfags too retarded to use the filter function ebin simply ebin

>>1032802 >>1032852 That's a lot of asshurt. Maybe I should keep posting bugs? >>1032855 >He kept going on his own without replies Lmao.

>>1032944 Anon like I said, don't reply to him. A troll's entire thing is baiting for reactions, no matter what they are.

>>1032945 Not the bug fables anon, but at this point the spergery is hilarious. Why contain it?

>>1032975 >Deleted Was it finally too much ass to handle?

>>1032977 It was the wrong one

>>1033032 Yes it was all me. You got me.

>>1032945 man I want to impregnate a nice lucario with a big ass.

>>1032855 >Ant that's a transgender >Super-Ma'am <Not Ant-Ma'am One job

>>1033078 Nice. >>1033084 if you fug a lucario that's obviously intelligent passing the harkness test then you're not a furry. You're a xenophile, fur-niggers are trash-tier as people. You want to fuck that pokemon? Go ahead. Don't beat yourself up if you get loved back over it.

>>1033078 My wood would.

This Kirby could go with music posts.

>>1033089 >If the dog person can say it's name, you're not a furry Lmao.

>>1033144 It's simple, let me break it down for you >you fapping to furry porn cringe, disgusting furnigger faggot kill yourself >f2c13b fapping to furry porn based and heterosexual man who is definitely not a furry

>>1033154 (unironically true)

The rest of the characters in Mario Kart 64 would not animate under 25KB without reducing their sizes

This site is leaps and bounds better than anything remotely similar to it. People might bitch about Mark or acid but they do a great job at keeping this community relatively alive and close. I love you all.

>>1033182 Admitting homosexuality attracts more homosexuals. Please don't do it.

>>1033181 how did they get away with this? I thought nintendo was supposed to be family friendly

More of Wario

All of Peach's vibes in Super Princess Peach & her Amiibo sprite

Bring out the creatures of the night & let's boogie!

>>1033567 >Bring out the creatures of the night >Tewi Yep, sounds about right.

>>1031382 Gifcities is now back online! There's a huge amount of GIFs inside waiting to be converted to APNG!

I'm going to waste a notch of this thread posting my WIP attempts at getting a satisfactory APNG of the Chaika Yes Chaika meme. There HAS to be a better way to preserve quality while reducing size than using the GIF format as the intermediary, I'm going to see if I can hack other image formats into the PNG format like it's a container.

>>1033972 Reduce the palette size drastically with palettegen=max_colors=[..], then paletteuse=[file]. You can also lower the framerate with fps=fps=[...].

>>1033972 >I'm going to see if I can hack other image formats into the PNG format like it's a container. BMP? There's also PictView for MS-DOS. It doesn't view APNGs, but it may be useful for color reduction: http://www.pictview.com/ The Bubblegum Crisis APNG should hopefully give you some ideas & inspiration. There's another use I can see for APNGs if used well: Creating a little series of frames to put together a recipe, short story, document, etc. as long as not too many colors are used & enough time is given for the viewer to read. Also added the original Sonic Genesis game logo APNG. Sonic threads are now way past cool!