>>1079326 UNDYING LOYALITY!

Writefag here I have ideas in my head but haven't put anything to paper yet. Guide my pen hand to which one I focus on and write: >Fresh Night Lord who gets stranded on an isolated Imperial planet >Sons of Malice sergeant and his escapades with his skeleton crew warband >Emperor's Children captain >Something focused on Dark Mechanicum

>>1079335 >Sons of Malice sergeant and his escapades with his skeleton crew warband I kinda like this idea.

>>1079335 >>1079336 One addendum: The EC and Mechanicum one aren't very detailed since I didn't really meditate on their proposed stories yet, so it might be best to just pick between the Night Lords and the Sons of Malice stories. As an additional detail for both: <Night Lord becomes something like the Night Haunter for the planet he is stranded on...with a twist <The Sons of Malice one has encounters with loyalists as well as traitors, and will go a lot into the Sons of Malice mindset (Malus worshippers in general)

Where da game list

>>1079343 Both are interesting premises as we don't have much writefag stuff regarding chaos, or even having nuanced stuff like renegade Marines. >>1079345 I'm gonna be working on the rec list again, I had to pause it due to irl shit. I will be adding more stuff and, feel free to criticise any choices anons.

>>1079352 To be fair, coming into a 40k thread and complaining about seeing space marines is like heading to Detroit and being surprised to see niggers.

>>1079393 What a fucking post.

>>1079351 Looking forward to the final results.

>>1079324 Space Marine 3 makes me very happy, especially considering the wait between the first and second games.

>>1079393 Niggers? In my space marines?

>>1079393 >>1079594

>>1079326 >>1079332 What is even with the Alpha legion? Are they just wildcards?

>>1079804 the short of it is that the alpha legions primarch Omegon is secretly a loyalist. So he will send them on missions that seem like they hurt the imperium but actually help them in the long run. problem is he can't just declare himself to be loyal because a lot of legionnaires are full-on traitors. In general if people know the alpha legion is there then they probably want you to know they are there.

>>1079804 At this point I'm not even sure if the fucking Alpha legion themselves know what side they're on.

>>1079804 This guy >>1079807 describes the situation pretty well. Canonically - we know this thanks to the Horus Heresy books - their primarch Alpharius "died" transferred his soul and mind into a rank and file Alpha Legionnaire while his body, inhabited then by the rank and file guy, was slain by Rogal Dorm and Omegon is on the loose doing whatever. Nobody knows Omegon exists except Alpharius, some Eldar, and the Emperor himself, apparently Big E never told Horus that Alpharius was actually the first-found and he never even told Alpharius that Omegon existed until Alpharius found him by himself later. Omegon is presumably still in his primarch body although for all we know, he could have gone through the same sorcery that Alpharius did and is chilling out somewhere. tl;dr I am Alpharius

>>1079829 There's at least one Alpha Legionnaire who knows Omegon is alive, and he's currently interrogating a shard of the Deceiver about his location, which might be GW cockteasing us that the "Giant in green armor" in Trazyn's collection might be Omegon... if it's not Vulkan like they flip flopped on already.

>>1079887 Omegon should be the same size as a normal space marine, or at least damn near the same size. I don't think they'd describe him as a giant unless it were by normal human standards

>>1079594 Tbh, there shouldn't be black niggers in space marines. (Except in Salamanders) They all have a melanchromic organ that regulates the amount of melanin in their skin to suit the environment. So, every marine in a given locale should have roughly the same skin tone.

Are there any decent classic 40k games? As in, 1980s to mid 1990s? All the good games seem to be from this century.

>>1079955 I haven't played it myself but a lot of people praise vengeance of the blood angels.

>>1079955 A list is being made here to rec >>1079351 all the decent 40k games, it'll include older games too.

>>1079955 Final Liberation

>>1079969 Where’s that screencap from? I’ll be sad if it’s not from a movie.

>>1079976 Read the post and then think for a bit.

>>1079978 Damn shame.

>>1079980 There hasn't been a good 40k movie yet. Mostly because it would require a very expensive budget to bring the scale of that universe to the big screen.

>>1079993 OBJECTIVELY WRONG https://1d6chan.miraheze.org/wiki/Warhammer_Films

>>1080010 Watch Helsreach. It's great.

>>1080012 Listen there is a lot of bullshit in 40k that I will accept. There is no fucking way anyone will figure out a G11 in this goddamned galaxy.

>>1080014 >Another forgotten Lasgun pattern. The God Emperor 11 pattern hotshot lasgun. The magos that discovered this STC disappeared, sadly, so not a lot of them around in the Imperium anymore This is an artist who draws mostly mechs. https://danbooru.donmai.us/posts/8507812c

>>1080008 Cmon, you know what I was referring to. Actual films put on the silver screen, in movie theaters.

>>1080012 >11 <IX

Tau look like shit. I don’t mean their technology, by the way, I mean the Tau themselves. Their actual canon design and not the fanart. Noseless earless blue humans with vaginas in their foreheads. You can tell GW had a real hard time making an original design, and they failed miserably. Honestly, they should have just used another fantasy race. The tyrannids are the only major aylmao faction with good non-fantasy-based designs and even they’re still ripped off something else i.e. xenomorphs. I’d suggest saurians, because at least they look cool.

>>1080108 I think it's a fine compromise if their blue skinned selves look rather boring because they are almost always in their mech suits, which are far cooler than their un-meched selves

>>1080108 >>1080138 Saurians but they're Asian dragons

HELLO FELLOW IMPERIALS!

>>1080150 This is impossible because space marine psycho conditioning runs deep, so deep that even traitor space marines still actively hate xenos even after betraying the imperium. Too bad Big E couldn't do the same thing for chaos, unless the Horus Heresy was all part of his master plan.

>>1080219 If the Bluies got a hold of some geneseed though... And wasn't it implied that the 2nd Primarch might have been a xenos sympathizer? Or was it the 11th?

>>1080220 It really comes down to whatever the writer want, but from an in-universe perspective are space marines even worth the trouble of making? I'm not familiar with Tau lore, but a small mechsuit could do the same things they can, and the process of making them would be less convoluted. There's no reason for Tau to make their own space marines, and it seems impossible lorewise to recruit those that already exist.

>>1080221 Tau don't even consider space marines as beings they can influence or convince of the greater good, they regard them as living weapons. But they will still try to negotiate, astartes aren't on the "shoot on sight" list like the Orks, Tyranids, and Dark Eldar.

>>1080150 Absolutely heretical garbage, delete this fucking dogshit.

>>1080222 Well you can technically negotiate with Space Marines in the situation of a greater enemy, can't do that with Orks,Tyranids or the Dark Eldar.

>>1080221 >Tau lore

>>1080237 >can't do that with Orks Offer them enough shinies and maybe a hat and they will.

>>1080254 You think if someone tried to negotiate with the position of places where Tyranids are attacking/attacked they would take the offer?

I think I fucked up in Rogue Trader Anons. My Dark Eldar party member is now hunting lower deck crew for sport.

>>1080317 What did you expect was gonna happen when you let a Dark Eldar onto your ship?

Why is 60% of the Warhammer fandom super gay and the other 60% super fash? Those numbers add to 120% because there is considerable overlap between these groups

>>1080317 you expected anything else from the race of hyper edgelords that literally live off being edgy?

>>1080323 Because niggers get no greater pleasure than capturing and ruining an IP, which breeds a greater response from the real fans.

>>1080317 It's fine, you're on the heretic route so a few casualties for sport are hardly an issue. You ARE on the heretic route, aren't you? You'd have to be... otherwise, why would you let a Xeno, let alone a cartoonishly evil edgelord who literally tried to kill and torture your entire party at every opportunity, roam free on your ship? Are you a woman? Did you think you could "fix" him? Was this supposed to be your Twilight arc? I bet you stopped Argenta from putting a well deserved bolt through Idira's head, too.

>>1080334 >Did you think you could "fix" him? Was this supposed to be your Twilight arc? Okay but if you flip that around as a rich ancient vampress and a indigenous shewolf who both want your hand in marriage (and your seed), you can absolutely understand Bella's predicament. You pick the WEREWOLF what is wrong with you Bella

>>1080336 Already exists.

>>1080339 That's the joke.

>>1080323 Because Fantasy and Tabletop in general has always been full of comic tier emasculated geek faggots and it's only gotten faggier since, but Warhammer always attracted a lot of more masculine guys due to how metal it looks. So you get both in the same IP, which is slowly and surely dying due to popularity and more and more faggots flooding it.

>>1080317 You get what you fucking deserve

>>1080317 You fucking idiot.

>>1080357 >but Warhammer always attracted a lot of more masculine guys Like yourself :^} >due to how metal it looks You’re aware of how many gay faggots are in metal, are you not?

>>1080323 Because everyone who likes 40k is a nerd, and all nerds are spergy retards. Just like people who post on imageboards

>>1080323 >Fash It's okay, you play White Wolf games you find plenty of gay tankies so it balances out.

>>1080323 because it's on course to be the next marvel

>>1080323 I think the fash is obvious with 40k's overt Hugo Boss fashion and extreme human imperialism. The Gay is a very recent thing and if I were to guess, it stems from reddit, Discord and typical online zoomer culture as 40k has rapidly gotten more mainstream. If you look up gay 40k art on Rule 34 you'll get 8 pages, page 8 is art from 2010-2021, the remaining 7 pages are all 2021 onward. You see also this with edgy zoomerbait like Ultrakill, and I feel like the same thing is going on there.

>>1080480 reminder the artist is a korean femcel that lost her shit when people weren't too keen on femstodes

>>1080481 You don't need say that's fujo art, a gay man did not fucking draw that.

>>1080323 >and the other 60% super fash? It's just satire.

>>1080481 Don't worry, I'm familiar with Archon of Flesh and that's partially why I picked her as the example representing the strange new breed of 40k fan. Those said fans are also here by the way, as seen with how many are familiar with drama on the 40k reddit.

>>1080484 damn the artist is super racist

>>1080485 >Those said fans are also here by the way Yes, you are one of them.

>>1080357 God you're fucking retarded.

>>1080406 >Like yourself? Yes, I never got into the tabletop, I'm a filthy secondary that thinks that shit is too expensive, though I'd really like collecting WW2 miniatures. My entry point was DoW like many people >You’re aware of how many gay faggots are in metal? I know, Metal just any subculture nowadays is gay as fuck, I'm just saying it looks rad and that that attracts less pasty nerds. >>1080531 Prove me wrong, whole tabletop and miniature hobby is either pasty geeks or chainsmoking uncles.

>>1080317 Are you retarded?

>>1081253 Reddit-tier tbh Is that last one some kind of Chinese snuff cuck art? Truly horrible if so

>>1081325 >Snuff cuck art In one of the Mallus Darkblade books the dark elves gleefully talk about how they raped a man's wife to death to his face. I'm surprised the nu-fans haven't raised a stink about it, but those fag don't play Fantasy anyway.

>>1081452 What's funny is how nu fans try to pretend Slaanesh and his forces don't commit acts of murder rape. The Dark Eldar also running trains on Craftworld Eldar and Humans.

>>1082420 If the Dark Eldar love to murder/rape/torture/scat their enemies (and each other) so much - then why don't they just give their souls over to Slaanesh? Why are they hiding in a pain citadel in a pocket of the webway away from her gaze? Yeah yeah yeah, she consumes their souls in agonizing torment. Vore and Guro? You'd think that'd be a turn-on for them. It makes about as much sense as a satanist hiding out in an abandoned church because they're scared that the Devil will come get them.

>>1082433 They do the fuck up shit to placate Slaanesh's drain on their souls.

>>1082433 They aren’t sadomasochists, they’re just sadists. Still, I find them thematically incohesive and redundant as a faction when slaaneshmarines exist.

>>1082433 They believe that torturing and raping and causing pain will barricade them and their souls against Slaanesh and the ruinous powers. They fear the fuck out of Chaos and the Warp, even moreso than the vanilla Eldar.

>>1082468 >behaving in exactly the way that fuels and invites slaanesh will barricade them and their souls from slaanesh. I thought it was because they cut themselves off from the warp and now have to feed on suffering to survive. …Even though if they cut themselves off from the warp it should be impossible to do physics defying nonsense like “feeding on emotions”.

>>1082441 Huh, I thought they were into masochism too. Something about them occasionally volunteering to be tortured for the entertainment of it because they got off on the thrill and exhibition of it.

>>1082525 That was before Slaneesh, they had rape dungeon dimensions for all kinds of degenerate acts, including that. The biggest degenerates in the deepest rape dungeon dimensions were the ones that survived but still get their souls sucked out by Slaneesh slowly but surely, which is why they need to keep dishing out suffering to stave off Slaneesh. Slaneesh is pretty much keeping them hostage, and that's what the Dark Eldar are, slaves to their own vices.

>>1082518 It's a bit more that their psychic powers have atrophied from lack of use, but they do still have some connection like most living things do. Being a psyker is one of the few things explicitly forbidden in Commoragh, since it risks causing warp rifts and the like.

>>1082982 They've become twice as strong as a craftworld Eldar to make up for the lack of Psykers.

>>1082528 I guess that's the face you make when you realize mutilating your body won't fix your depression.

Ditch Jihad's bullshit managed to make GW look good in comparison.

>>1084229 It's another situation like with Helldivers where the community was getting hyped up but then the company couln't help but shoot themselves in the foot by running their mouth or letting one of their "community managers" fuck everything up.

>>1084287 Reddit ruins everything it touches and the sjws they sucked off want an atheist faction. In a setting where everyone knows God exists and demons are flooding into reality.

So what's the story with Trench Crusade?

>>1084347 Something along the lines of: >"How do you, fellow woke-haters!" >"Aren't you tired of 40GAY Wokehammer??" >"Get into this basted and redpilled spehss prussia game now on kickstarter!" <"wow, sounds völkish as fugg:DD" t. 102% PVRE BAVARIAN stock >"RREEE INTERNET RACISTS GET OUT!"

>>1084347 It advertised itself as being grimdark so a bunch of 40k fags wanted to try it after the custodes debacle. All of them got banned from the discord for being suspected of being on the rightwing. Now the left is calling them racist and eurocentrist after they revealed their map.

>>1084312 Reminder you're in the reddit thread :^) >>1084350 It's weirdly common for vaguely "anti-woke" centrists to pander to far-right internet communities then get really pissy when they attract the far-right. That said I'm not sure the creators said this, I think others said it and the creators and/or community immediately told them to fuck off

>>1084312 The satanists are the atheist faction :^}

>>1084355 The fags behind Trench Crusade are anything but centrist.

>>1079324 Still no Survival Mode, still no Dreadnaught Mode, PTR taking forever. >>1084347 >So what's the story with Trench Crusade? Cancer.

>>1084347 >story explicitly has Christianity real >bans even discussing the idea that Aztecs, who literally had a religion with human sacrifice and ritual consumption of human blood as core tenets, as demon cult would fit the setting because that's raycist

>>1084390 >Demon portal in Croatia TOP KEK

>>1084427 das rite!

>>1084354 It advertised itself as old school grimdark, started attracting people burnt out with 40k, plus the story essentially confirming Christianity is real and God exists appealed to the right in general. So the leftists making the game immediately knee jerked, started screaming "SATIRE, THE CHRISTIANS ARE ACTUALLY THE EVIL ONES!!!!111!!" and generally chasing away people they could have pumped for money had they kept their mouths shut. Just like Helldivers.

>>1084634 >Just like Helldivers. If somebody couldn't tell Helldivers was making fun of nationalistic jingoism, they're an idiot to begin with.

>>1084677 WHAT THE FUCK DO YOU MEAN "IT WAS SHAM"??? I MOVED TO FUCKIN BUENES AIRES FOR THIS SHIT

>>1084677 gives some people a sense of camaraderie they feel it's missing IRL

>>1084677 I watch starship troopers as a pro fascist film to spite Verhoeven.

>>1084390 Wait that's the grimdark map? It's fucking tame, at least with 40k you genuinely understand how fucked the galaxy is for both Humans and xenos.

>>1084750 /tg/ refugee here before, I was banned from that nightmare it was being hardcore astroturfed by, the creators pretending to be Anons. The mods were in on it and banning anyone who, called the BS out about the blatantly inorganic threads, even r/HorusGalaxy had these fence sitters shilling it. Big reason I ended up posting with you guys. >>1080317 >He let a fucking Dark Eldar aboard You Muppet.