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#GamerGate + #NotYourShield [#GG + #NYS]: Ronaldo confirmed for Brawl! Anonymous 03/27/2025 (Thu) 02:11:09 Id: 0b66f7 No. 1083068
ONGOING DISCUSSIONS: >Cryptofags remade Game Informer https://archive.ph/R50yp <The Dreamcast like, JFK, was an INSIDE JOB! >USAID Website Goes Dark As Trump Reportedly Plans To Shift Agency Under State Department; Agency revealed to have engaged in wasteful spending including combatting "misinformation" on the Internet such as 4chan and Reddit https://archive.ph/h4nEx >Companies beginning to abandon DEI and other Affirmative Action temp filter due to raidicies following 2024 US Election Results: https://archive.ph/GW9C8 https://archive.ph/OqPGJ https://archive.ph/WlVIj >Guillemot Family And Tencent May Move Select Ubisoft Assets To New Venture After Assassin's Creed Shadows is delayed to March 20th 2025 https://archive.md/NMr6d https://archive.ph/zL2AP >Dragon Age Veilguard Director Leaves EA After Disappointing Attempt At Series Revival https://archive.ph/yoQe1 >Feminist Frequency is dead https://archive.is/gHAZc >Buzzfeed News is shutting down https://archive.is/mI2rz >The Gamer Praises Censorship in ‘Resident Evil 4’ Remake, Claims Original Game’s Panty Shots Encourage “Misogynistic Behaviour In Real Life” https://archive.is/qGtKO >Chris Avellone wins seven figures lawsuit, possible return to video games industry https://archive.is/ZDgT7 >GJP is attacking Valve over not supporting BLM https://archive.vn/12kPM >Nathan Grayson laid off as The Washington Post shuts down Launcher, their gaming section https://archive.is/B9wT2 >Limited Run Games fires employee after complaints over who she follows on Twitter https://archive.vn/obNiJ >Regulators (FTC) Look To Block Microsoft Acquisition Of Activision Blizzard Inc https://archive.ph/rKNDf >EU antitrust regulators to probe Microsoft's $69 billion Activision bid https://archive.ph/SqhgU >IGN Journalist who reviewed The Last of Us Part 2 joins Naughty Dog as Editorial Content Manager https://archive.ph/eTmtu https://pastebin.com/GGG5Kwdr >Arc System Works confirms that Bridget is trans https://archive.ph/lkbiL >Cloudflare bans Kiwifarms https://archive.ph/5ziDX >Ben Kuchera claims he was fired by Vox Media for taking time off to deal with his children being sexually abused https://archive.ph/nB79z CURRENT TASKS: 1. OPERATION MAX REVIVE Rebuild the board's userbase and activity through simple, but effective methods 1. Post across the entire board Activity creates activity. Use threads you like, make new ones if topics don't exist. Easy examples are Drawthreads and Friday Night threads, go request or draw something right now. 2. Recruit and recover lost or potential anons Use this site's OC and features to entice anons if necessary when recruiting, just inform that we are alive. Here's some sites and links with at least some confirmed anons that can be recruited again:
[Expand Post]https://steamcommunity.com/groups/8chotwheels https://steamcommunity.com/groups/SSAVCH https://steamcommunity.com/groups/video_games https://steamcommunity.com/groups/8chmohun https://steamcommunity.com/groups/8chan_monster https://steamcommunity.com/groups/GoodLuckEbolaChan https://steamcommunity.com/search/groups/#text=8ch.net https://steamcommunity.com/search/groups/#text=8chan Other sites that might yield fruitful results and have anons (art sites use an account so you can see 18+ content): https://www.deviantart.com/search?q=Vivian+James https://www.newgrounds.com/search/summary?suitabilities=etm&terms=Vivian%20James https://twitter.com/search?q=Vivian%20James&src=typed_query&f=image https://rpgcodex.net/ https://old.reddit.com/r/KotakuInAction/ Somewhere on Telegram Just searching up GG or 8chan-related terms on certain places/sites can get you possible results. 3. Make your own OC/Memes/Content Doesn't matter what it is even if its just simple edits or full-on drawings or webms, just make it and have fun. Ask in thread for software recs if necessary. 4. Encourage or create fun events, activities, projects, etc. Think things like 8chanmania, weekly streams, re-translation projects, demo days, or zzz's gaming magazine for example. If you want to do something, try making or reviving it, it can't hurt and these things are great for the board. 5. Use other boards All it takes for a board to grow is at least 2 dedicated anons using it. Don't be afraid to make a post, check places periodically, shill, or what have you. Don't force discussions to boards, just encourage the usage of them. 2. OPERATION TRAJAN: Collect and catalog all of the various localization and censorship accounts of past video games into a single repository from these sources: romhacking.net The_Cutting_Room_Floor/tcrf.net Segaretro.org https://redirect.invidious.io/channel/UCFItIX8SIs4zqhJCHpbeV1A Examples: http://archive.vn/XQOHW Sony's policies forces censorship; JP devs allegedly have to go through ENG approval process: https://archive.fo/awzFF - Japanese blog post about it: https://archive.fo/bF9bE Sony Japan President Says PS4 Censorship Policy Is To Match Global Standards And Protect Kids: https://archive.fo/U3GLa - Confirms censorship was deliberate: https://archive.fo/XgAgP - No rules for censorship policies, games judged case-by-case: https://archive.fo/37DhK - Marvelous partner starts petition against policy: https://archive.fo/rxQtf https://archive.fo/84UHo • Twitterfags: Tweet with Sony's stock code $SNE so that investors see your tweets and know you're pissed. • Consider spreading OP Timber materials to targets as well: http://archive.vn/URjtu ONGOING TASKS: A. Operation Download And Conquer: Loosen the death-grip of Google that has taken hold of the internet's audio and video services >>>/t/5546 B. Support archive.fo! Accountability needs proof: https://liberapay.com/archiveis/donate C. OP DisNod: Contact the FTC and advertisers about violations and unethical practices http://archive.vn/9bylT D. Internet Censorship happenings: Spread the word about the dangers of FOSTA/CLOUD act/Article 13, etc. https://www.eff.org/de/deeplinks/2020/03/earn-it-act-violates-constitution E. OP End the Era: Dig into resetera and their connections to journos, devs, etc. http://archive.vn/JfuSb Reminders (important, READ THESE!): • Use https://archive.today to deny sites ad revenue and traffic and preserve pages in case they are deleted later • Be civil if you have to argue with people on Twitter, Tumblr or any forum - don't make us look like douchebags • Do not accept requests for any goal, demand lists or personal army requests: https://pastebin.com/p5dVp1e5 • Beware COINTELPRO: The Gentleperson's Guide to Forum Spies: https://cryptome.org/2012/07/gent-forum-spies.htmSTOP REPLYING TO BAITS AND OBVIOUS DERAILMENT ATTEMPTS, JUST REPORT AND FILTER Resources >Summaries of #GamerGate:https://redirect.invidious.io/watch?v=wy9bisUIP3w - #GamerGate - If It's Not About Ethics • https://redirect.invidious.io/watch?v=5fnRSL3d_xU - #GamerGate in 60 Seconds • https://archive.fo/23Fde - GamerGate: A State of the Union Address >Background and Evidence for #GamerGate: • The #GamerGate Dossier: https://archive.fo/nv1Fb • #GamerGate Wiki: https://ggwiki.deepfreeze.it/index.php?title=Main_Page • History of #GamerGate: https://www.historyofgamergate.com/ • View the timeline links in the Current Happenings section! >Lists: • GG Steam Support & Boycott List: https://v.gd/vzRsRb • Key GamerGate Hubs: https://v.gd/LNJbat >Thread Repository: https://gitgud.io/gamergate/gamergateop/blob/master/ThreadRepository.md https://ggwiki.deepfreeze.it/index.php?title=Thread_Repository >Full OP Text: • Current: https://ggwiki.deepfreeze.it/index.php?title=The_GamerGate_OP >How Can I Help? >>>/gamergatehq/ • All OPs: https://gitgud.io/gamergate/gamergateop/tree/master/Operations • OP Vulcan: Learn logical debating: https://v.gd/Kbzw0L • An Anon's Guide to Twitter; basics: https://v.gd/nwrbYF >Want to Contribute to GitGud or Wiki? https://gitgud.io/gamergate/gamergateop/tree/master/How-to-Contribute
>>1083044 100% yes. I thought it was my browser being fucky. Thanks for confirming, anon. Must've been hacked.
>>1083080 Ah, that sucks. Either way make sure to DO NOT REDEEM if you get an Indian con artist who works at Microsoft to call you.
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>>1082992 >https://archive.fo/2JKAd >This apparently happened despite Manga Library Z complying with “an international credit card brand’s request that we suspend the distribution of works containing specific words.” What i wanna know is, are those works that got banned coming back or is that censorship "grandfathered in" or otherwise forgotten about? >>1083044 >>1083045 >>1083050 I've experienced the problem myself. Archive links, doesn't really matter which one, have been constantly sending me to Russia Today for some weird reason unless I clear the captcha really fast. >>1083017 >https://archive.ph/4hwGL Looks more like a dyke haircut than one of the autogynophiliacs.
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>>1083068 We're not all third world football fans. Hell I can't imagine anyone in these threads plays or pays attention to sportsball.
>>1083101 No one pays attention to niggerball, but I'm sure there's enough Latinos around here who care about their futabol.
>>1083103 >futabol Well maybe if it were actually like that.
>>1083068 Last thread only had 660 post as of me typing this. It didn't even reach 680.
Thought we were gonna get cute Dullahan OP. Instead some gay, shirtless faggot...
>>1083105 Thread locked.
>>1083110 It wouldn't be the first time OP was a faggot. If it looks like niggerpill, walks like niggerpill, and smells like niggerpill, than it still a shitstain that scrubbing like niggerpill.
>>1083110 Saying >OMG GUIZ THE ECELEBS THAT TOTALLY REPRESENT YOU GOT BTFO is niggerpill behavior. Acting like niggerpill gets you called niggerpill and niggerpill is banned on sight. So anyone acting like him is banned on sight. And also it wouldn't be the first time he made a bread and tried to get himself banned later to fuck with it. To be honest, I think that anon was probably trying to be ironic since the Ubisoft post is very obviously heavily botted, but trying to act ironic in text form is an excellent way to catch stray bullets.
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>>1083101 I only give a shit because he's portuguese and does whatever the fuck he wants, including tellling corporate sponsors to fuckoff. Niggerball is still shit though, and his likeness in the game is pretty bad.
>>1083111 The post history could have easily dispelled that notion. >>1083112 Pretty sure being ironic was the idea.
>>1081861 Share the stores then, also I noticed your previous post about your girlfriend got deleted.
>>1083110 So uh first off don’t insult the mod team (yikes) and uh second, willy sometimes bakes the bread only to then sperg out and have the thread deleted at 70 posts. You must be new around here or something.
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Archive of previous bread https://archive.is/r9mgi
>>1083122 >yikes Talk about being ironic. And the OP didn't sperg out after 70 posts this time? It was towards the end of the thread.
>>1083122 >yikes
so what's the status of switch homebrew these days? thinking of finally getting a switch now that the new one is close to being out.
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>>1083092 NO NIGGERS IN THIS THREAD I REPEAT NO NIGGERS IN THIS THREAD
>>1083101 There's always formula 1, the shitty annual EA/codemasters release was announced today as well (it's been downhill since EA bought them and there was no gameplay in the trailer).
>>1083135 There’s at least 2. And one pajeet woman
All of you are a shade of brown
>>1083137 >at least 2
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>>1083137 Isn't she also half chink?
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>What a time to be alive
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>>1083144 is there one for picrel
Funny that I got notified of nips aguing over AI art, the harshness of japanese copyright has them sympathizing with ai as makers of derivative works.
>>1083148 Fuck off, niggerpill
>>1083146 The sooner AI takes over all ares of work, the better.
>>1083139 THREE... AH AH AH!
>>1083158 These aren't niggers, they're just fightan game fans.
>>1083161 Furry Nigger Faggots, then?
>>1083162 Oh shit, I forgot about THAT nigger.
>>1083146 On one hand, on a practical user standpoint, AI can really shit up art sites en masse with identical low effort shit since there's a low barrier to use (case in point, the current state of DeviantArt). On the other hand, copykike really does need to be smacked like a bitch and fucking with peoples' bread and circuses is a good way to make apathetic normalcattle finally move their asses.
>>1083144 Where can I generate these?
>>1083176 A few made arguments along the lines of creativity of expression for future machine sentience, but it doesn't excuse bad art that misses a style on curated platforms.
>>1083184 Apparently OpenAI got a new Ghibli filter for photographs recently. That's why the recent surge. If you can't run it locally (say, if your CPU is 15 years old and your GPU is 10), don't know how, or just want to dick around with raw generation, Perchance also has a Ghibli filter under "Art Style": https://perchance.org/ai-text-to-image-generator
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>>1083188 It's alright.
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>>1083193 >MH Wilds (Le wholesome Jeet family is worth the dog shit optimisation) That's your red line and not the Denuvo?
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>>1083144 You forgot one
>>1083192 AI was a mistake
>>1083198 >>1083192 Honestly, no. I told someone just yesterday that I figured in under 10 years we'd have commercially available tools to re-do entire films in whatever artistic style–and with whatever modifications–we wanted. But this is a single-pass on a movie trailer and it's pretty goddamned good in its own right. TODAY. So holy shit. Imagine the possibilities. No nonwhites in any movie, anywhere. "Michael Bay-ify" films to add explosions to every scene background. Every film as Studio Trigger/Ghibli/Disney/Nickelodeon/Dreamworks/Pixar style. This is the golden age of getting rid of jewish propaganda, anon.
>>1083192 The character cast doubled from how different they look scene to scene.
>>1083166 >Win gold cup and gets to fuck 2 prime lolers Very nice.
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>>1083205 >This is the golden age of getting rid of jewish propaganda, anon. It won't be if <tool has to remain online with no way of using it offline <require an account <puts unqiue watermarks on your media that is tied back to your machine, smilar to printer paper tying back to printers <copykike pull a magic trick out of their sleeves that helps them clamp down on AI
>>1083205 >Imagine the possibilities. No nonwhites in any movie, anywhere. That possibility presents the opposite issue of "no whites anywhere", as the corporations best equipped to take advantage of AI (or more aptly ((((legally restrict))) use of the IPs anyone actually cares about that were perverted, like say Star Wars) are the least motivated to use it for good. We aren't exactly in a fair free market - the internet becoming centralized within a decade proves as much - and I don't think indie films are quite equitable to indie vidya either.
>>1083155 The whole point of ai is supposed to be to take over arduous physical labor so people have more time to master the arts & hobbies. This is the exact opposite of what anyone should want.
>>1083264 In fairness, the trivialization of physical labor as granted has, in practice, bred a contempt for those working it even as the only thing supporting many peoples' modern lifestyles. I can't help but wonder if it enabled the mass leftist indoctrination of otherwise sane people thanks to colleges, stronghold cities like Commiefornia for voice acting (including non-dubs), and other gatekeepers of working in the arts.
>>1083267 You're not wrong but still. Ai & robotics should be about making the hard parts of life easier. Not to make the arts soulless.
>>1083246 >has to remain online At least be believable.
>>1083155 Humans will become lazy and even more easier to manipulate than before because the (((elites))) will be able to lie to the masses and contrary experience will not lived to contradict the false claims. >>1083269 AI will be abused and artisans will be made redundant. Making more time for them to work meaningless, soul crushing manual labor.
>>1083271 >will not lived will not be lived
>>1083267 AI as it exists right now is the literal gamification of not just hobbies, but passion. Where you once had to be passionate about something to the point where you enjoy spending every free moment you have indulging in learning a craft or topic, striving to become an expert or master of something, and in the process gaining invaluable knowledge of technique and history of the subject. Instead the entire learning curve has been replaced with a virtual casino, sure you can run your own virtual casino, spend a week tweaking it (putting your scraped hard earned images into it), and then you pull the lever until you get something that most resembles what you wanted, probably with some issues around the hands so you put it into another machine, focus on the areas that need work and pull the lever some more until it looks passable, all for that hit of dopamine when you finally get that one okay looking image out of mostly garbage "hallucinations". Like with the "vibe-coding" buzz word that was coined by openAI, sure you can use the AI shit integrated into IDEs to quickly generate boilerplate or specific functions to expedite creating an application, but unlike going to stackoverflow when you have a question or don't understand how something works or why it doesn't work, it doesn't give you any understanding of the code it generated and you take it at face value that it just works. With stackoverflow you get engaged in conversation where numerous developers give different viewpoints but explain in-depth not just how somethnig works but why it works that way, from people who have many years more experience than you. Even experienced developers who have been using the AI integration in dev tools are admitting they have to stop using it because they lose the ability to even remember the basic syntax of the language they're using.
it's so over. 'amirite fellow analogous poster? :^)
>>1083276 we need to let the machines do all the work. our ancestors didn't have to do any of this shit. they just had to harvest wheat, sex and die young. humans are living way too long and this is the cause of great suffering for many.
>>1083276 The way I see it, a lot of people use hobbies as an aesthetic and fall prone to consumerism by flitting between things to enjoy. >>1083280 They also had to pay the nobles or king to make sure they stay poor.
And to the surprise of noone >Tencent acquires 25% stake in Ubisoft’s new gaming subsidiary https://archive.vn/rFbUy
AI will eventually just implode on itself when it starts using itself as a reference and enters a constant feedback loop. The real question is when can the holocaust (and all of history really) be denied because everything from the past is ai generated falsehoods pushed by crisis actors falsifying data.
>>1083137 >>1083141 Literally who?
>>1083307 Why the fuck would I care about something that's completely out of my control?
>>1083309 What do you mean?
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>>1083276 Vibe-coding wasn't coined by OpenAI directly, just by some dude that works or worked there. Also, he explicitly said in his post that it's the kind of thing you would do for throwaway weekend projects that no one but you cares, so you just have the AI do the quick and dirty and whatever comes out you're happy with, but of course niggers will apply their own sloppiness to their jobs and now we get to reap with they've sown. The kind of niggers that engage in "vibe-coding" in their jobs were always retards, if you think about it, the majority of applied technology is frameworks of frameworks applied over abstractions, most people don't even know what the underlying technology does, or how it works, they just learn how to use it. Developers learn their libraries and frameworks and just learn how to call those, they have no idea what they're actually doing as it's basically rote memorization that does indeed work for 98% of common problems. Also, LLMs gave me gigantic throughput power, and never have I learned so much so fast, this is literally the technology that filters retards from actual human beings with souls and you can do so much with it if you just learn it, but most people will use it just for fapping or generating their slop AI art like pajeets, or they are so incompetent in communicating what they want from the LLM that it outputs bullshit and they believe that it's the AI that's not good enough, not their shitty communication skills, limited cognitive capacity to envision a large system and requirement, and pure understanding of LLMs.
>>1083340 Sounds like a subset of the build fast break fast mantra. Works great if you're actually iterating on products like spacex was or if you're dumping a trash company idea on investors.
>>1083340 what ever happened to having fun? \_( ◉ 3 ◉ )_/¯
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>>1083300 So before that, Ubisoft was already more Canadian than French, and now it's becoming Chinese (at least, more than it already was) as well.
>>1083137 >>1083141 I'm half Chinese also
>>1083365 Gross!
>>1083367 On the bright side, there is no gypsies in this thread.
>>1083365 In the coming war of Chink vs. Jeet, both sides will hate you.
>>1083363 Chinks own the Canadians so it's fitting
>>1083197 NO, TODD, I'M NOT BUYING ANOTHER BLURAY COPY OF MY NEIGHBOR TOTORO!
>>1083365 What's the other half? Are you also a woman?
>>1083089 >grandfathered in Explain.
>>1083365 I bet you've got the nicest, cleanest, smoothest asshole.
>>1083089 It's a fake Russia Today. Note the wrong URL. Expect malware on that site.
Are you fags lusting over a half jeet half chinx femanon?
>>1083400 I'd rather there be a femboy than a fucking poochink woman.
>>1083407 Can't relate i like women,sorry anon.
Funny how jew rejection unites people: >Taliban seek Japan support for infrastructure, industry development https://archive.ph/NKIBg
>>1083365 Show your tits, femanon, you'll be popular.
>>1083397 I refer to the process of policies from an old regime becoming enshrined into the new one even if the reason said policy was made shouldn't apply anymore. Say a porn site bans anyone from uploading the works of a specific artist due to said artist belonging to a litigious outfit. Even after said artist has long left said outfit and even died, his works (including those made long after severing ties) are still prevented from being archived. It's something similar here that I'm afraid of: certain manga get banned because Credit Kikes, but even without them, Manga Z acts as it did during the Credit Kike era and enforces the old bans it was forced to make even though it has no reason anymore.
>>1083144 Why do these all have the Human Revolution piss filter?
I wonder how many of CDPR are among those: >Mass Layoffs in Poland: Thousands Losing Their Jobs https://archive.ph/VTZWZ
>>1083433 I'd assume a good amount.
https://yewtu.be/watch?v=-eZmASKNPTc Given a certain game release here, does anyone have that Norm picture of "everyone involved in this story should die" here? >>1083162 I hope SonicFox 41%s himself sooner than later. You guys see Mike Z's Diesel Legacy game?
>>1083445 Fuck off, Lucario.
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>>1083445 Go away, ((("totally not Luciano")))
>>1083365 Is the other half also Chinese?
>>1083445 >Grummz means well but he clearly is letting his being a figurehead in the Gaming culture war go to his head Been that way for years it feels like. Who even promoted him to "figurehead" in the first place? Why does he refuse to delete twitter considering how retarded it makes him look? What happened to the game he's developing? Half the time Grummz opens his mouth I get pissed off and feel the need to scream "YOU'RE BETTER THAN THIS", and the other half is just him preaching to the choir about the shit state of the industry.
>>1083471 I still find myself getting irritated that he never archives shit before putting it on blast so a lot of it gets deleted. Every good thing that fag does is coupled with 2 or 3 annoying and or retarded things that he refuses to change.
>>1083475 >Spite is a powerful tool I hear that was why Miyazaki's art-style got copied by OpenAI recently.
>>1083471 He has to be a plant by this point. Just wake up, get spoonfed screenshots, shit out an opinion and say the situation was developing if it was made up.
>>1083445 >>1083471 >>1083472 >>1083487 While I don't like Kern I also fucking hate the centrists who hate him. A lot of them started to defend Ubikike out of spite and even tried comparing the AssCreed drama to Wizard game.
>>1083490 >I also fucking hate the centrists who hate him I hate centrists no matter what
>>1083490 I'll say this for Kern, he was one of the few who actually called out the KCD2 Musa shit. Most supposed "anti woke" ecelebs called the game based. Dude can be a grade a retard sometimes, sure, but he generally signal boosts the right stuff. Typically the two types of retards are people who genuinely idolize the guy and people who try and D&C how we should "do something about him" as though we give out fucking GG membership cards and could revoke them. "He makes us look bad." Who is "us?" Do we suddenly care about optics again?
>>1083496 We must hire a PR firm for Gamergate me thinks
>>1083166 >>1083188 >>1083191 >>1083192 >>1083197 >>1083198 >>1083227 >>1083264 Thanks, I fucking hate it. Imagine generalizing Ghibli's internal talent and painting their work as just Miyazaki's. It's the furthest thing from the truth. Furthermore, because the AI is dumb as shit it doesn't even replicate Miyazaki's art style properly. It can't get the eyes properly done like Miyazaki drew them because it's not referencing his production work, it's referencing the animators' references off them, and because AI ultimately sticks too close to realistic human proportions it also deviates from Miyazaki's ratios. To the blind layman, yeah, it resembles a Ghibli movie, but to a trained artist it's laughably horrendous and AI will only increase artists' value. The ONLY good shot were distance shots. It's kinda funny that a "pixel art" AI filter hasn't been made yet, I would probably use it as a content creator to dodge ContentID on Jewtube AND give viewers a feast for the eyes. >>1083301 It's already happening. You're describing model collapse. Also, the Jews in the wake of facing actual conflict have been losing sympathy internationally. Today's youth would have fit in rather well in early /pol/. There's literal proof of Mossad conspiring to assassinate JFK because he was going to deny AIPAC privileged treatment the public can access now. >>1083499 They're throwing yuan at a worthless, dessicated IP. Meh. In other news, Dead or Alive: Venus Vacation Prism is out now for anybody to play. >>1083494 DL and everything. Made a whole bump for an inactive thread before it slid off the catalog. There are no board rules against Nyotengu gravure being posted en masse, and in fact, posting screenshots of her preening on the beach with her bikini-clad body has been scientifically proven to extend your lifespan by twenty years and regenerate your thymus.
>>1083499 So these games will go from worse to terrible?
>>1083505 China will make them take out all the ugly women and gays but will add in even more pro commie stuff plus lots of Chinawank, so really more of a sidegrade.
>>1083505 Tencent means less to 0 niggers
>>1083506 >China will make them take out all the ugly women and gays >and gays Not after China got insane amounts of success from fujos through Ne Zha 2. Meanwhile we have another China owned game that has old gays & added a nonbinary Ziggy Stardust knockoff. >>>/v/1082692
>>1083509 China doesn't own as much of Warframe. Compare that to something like Marvel Rivals.
>>1083510 DE is still heavily owned & controlled by China. That's why it has two chinese based frames & celebrates Chinese new year every year even though there's no in lore reason for it. Can't make fun of Xi either or that's a bannu. Point is China is willing to forgo homophobia to an extent if they can profit from it.
>>1083509 So do people still not understand that Marxism has a persisting problem in pushing pozz yet clamping down on it lest birthrates go to zero, a la Trotsky getting ice-picked by the Keninists? If every chink hated homos why does the danmei scene exist (CN yaoi), with one being high-profile enough to get an animated adaptation under the CCP?
>>1083509 >Ne Zha 2 Does that movie have faggotry in it?
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>>1083499 I feel the schadenfreude, but honestly I can't help but be a bit bothered about this. Ubisoft was warned by the industry itself many, many, many times that persisting on unnecesarily throwing money into half-assed projects done by teams bloated with underskilled people and corrupted by DEI mafiosi who were just here to call them racist to the point they would never break even no matter the games' quality would bring them to their doom, and now the Chinese have another international company in their grasp. Talking strictly about vidya, that's not a huge loss, but financially speaking, when billions are involved in this one company, I'd be fucking butthurt if I were one of the suits.
>>1083512 TIAN GUAN CI FU MENTIONED It's actually pretty good, the author is known for taking the piss out of traditional wuxia/chinese sword and sandal books with a gorillion chapters where nothing ever happens
>>1083527 No, that's just danmei in general they don't make long novels like those
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>>1083513 Fujo bait at least. Even Ao Guang was made younger & hotter to appeal to fujos.
>>1083392 Anon has to answer this. Others are very horny and it's very disrespectful to not answer this.
>>1083561 i've been made increasingly aware of female horniness against my will in the last few years and i dont like it
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>>1083362 Where do you think we are? I just dislike intentional spreading of misinformation, especially by people that don't understand the subject they're talking about and just talk out of their ass based on ignorance. >>1083506 Ugly women is something that will likely be reduced, but I'm unsure of gays. CN gachas are filled with femboys. Chinawank is guaranteed though. We will see so much bullshit about CN new years, CN traditional dresses, especially in events and timed temporary stuff, this I'm certain of, as will predatory monetization schemes.
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>>1083585 Be sure to post your twitter screencaps next!
>>1083588 jokes on you
>>1083585 i love it when they make books and webtoons or whatever that are blatant female jack off material right out there in public, and then proceed to talk about it as if it is the pinnacle of literary and visual arts and there's nothing funny going on in it
>>1083585 That gacha that added period tracker aside of the creepy private information i'm sure it's sexual fetsih,i've seem too many women into that shit,they will never convince me.
Why has the anti SJW side of things all of sudden gone hardline centrist? Nearly every prominent anti SJW has become some type of centrist over the course of 4 years. Why did so many jump on (forgive me for using this misused word) grift?
>>1083611 They were always centrists anon.
>>1083487 He absolutely is, no doubt about it.
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>>1083611 Unironically these centrists are worse than full on partisan leftists in cases. With the latter you always know where you stand for better or worse and that semi consistency actually makes it possible, extremely difficult but possible to maintain some type of respect for them, having some kind of consistency. The former on the other hand will flip flop over the most random things and to the extreme degree too, they don't just change their minds genuinely overtime as is natural instead they pull 180's so abrupt it induces whiplash and then get incredibly asshurt towards people who maintained a consistent stance instead of flip flopping. With them mistaking it for a shift towards extremism when they shifted positions on a dime.
>>1083611 >zero definition of centrist >zero examples of anything No one has any fucking clue what you're talking about retard. These words don't mean anything. A centrist and an anti-SJW could have 10,000 different political positions depending on whatever e-celeb faggot twitter pundits you're alluding to.
>>1083611 Think back to 2015 when we saw the alt right morph into the "alt light". These people are like rats, chameleons, they’ll hop from one sinking ship to the next just to keep raking in views and cash from their videos.
>>1083617 >No one has any fucking clue what you're talking about retard It's pretty clear the fag is talking about the enlighten centrists, who cry culture war or muh both sides while doing nothing beneficial for anyone. >>1083619 >Think back to 2015 <2015 was ten years ago Jesus Christ where does time go?
>>1083611 Why should anyone believe what you're saying when we can literally see these "people" go fucking insane and commit felonies on live television?
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>>1083624 What the fuck is that creature?
>>1083624 I’m honestly more shocked they’re still putting D.Gray-man on the shelves >First published 21 years ago Damn.
>>1083621 >It's pretty clear the fag is talking about the enlighten centrists, who cry culture war or muh both sides while doing nothing beneficial for anyone. That's also a meaningless description. If someone has a retarded political perspective then criticize that perspective. This vague complaints about centrism just sounds like kvetching about people not giving a fuck about being loyal to republikikes. Either call out specific instances of someone being a faggot or fucking kill yourself.
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>>1083628 Are you being retarded on purpose?
>>1083611 Define centrists? Do you mean someone like Oliver Jia? I would argue people like that aren't even really centrists but leftists under another name.
>>1083630 I'm afraid I have no clue who Oliver Jia is.
>>1083631 Probably just another hapa gook mutt with to much internet clout.
>>1083621 Shooting down bad ideas is a political position now?
>>1083626 What the nerd girl in high school turns into when she leaves with zero dick.
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>>1083611 <giving a shit about what the dumblrite-infested site thinks Nobody cares outside of cuckchan, cuckchanner, because most people with proper brain health knows the hovel is full of gay posers who don't believe a single word coming out their pieholes. I will use this board for its original purpose which is to post digital bikini bods and induce hourlong erections and stiffies.
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>>1083499 >Ubishit loses money on wokeslop >China exploits this to buy up their studios & properties Makes you wonder what portion of the decay is China-funded.
>>1083696 Shitting on japanese culture and history seems like a very chink thing to do.
>>1083696 China hasn't bought Deep Silver or Arkane.
>>1083611 If they seek fame, they are opportunists. They are never anti-anything. They will side with whatever gives them fame and money, and betray any side as soon as they can get fame and money from some other source. All e-celebs (and that includes site owners) are shit.
Wazzup, Gamergays!
>>1083726 I don't know why I'm still reading this shit. Morbid curiosity, maybe. Benis stopped getting hard after the novelty wore off.
>>1083471 If there was any doubt that Cummz was controlled oppositon, here you go.
>>1083696 Corporate espionage/sabotage is still a very real thing. Wouldn't surprise me if some of the "special advisors" brought in for "authenticity" were Chinks pretending to be Japs looking to make the game as bad as possible just to fuel controversy and tank the company. Though how meaningful that is, I have no idea, since it's more likely that 90% of the progressive bullshit which was injected was entirely homegrown by actual ideologues.
>>1083747 He's saying it's based because it says Male and Female not Type A and Type B. Which is nice. Shame about the other stuff wrong with the game, though.
>>1083747 >>1083778 I hate Grummz for many reasons but the last straw for me was him shilling for Stellar Blade, a literal Sony published game from a developer that both do censorship. I'm not a hardliner that sperges out of every bit of censorship, but for someone who has followed censorship discourse for years you'd think to know to be a bit more cautious of Stellar Blade right from the jump. It just highlighted to me that he's an idiot with little discernment.
>>1083780 Well he covered it from when the censorship controversy started. He basically treated the censored outfits being added back in as free dlc as a win which I guess was kind of a nominal one. At least compared to what usually happens.
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How Gamergate foreshadowed the toxic hellscape that the internet has now become https://archive.is/bLcjD
>>1083780 Didn't the physical copies release uncensored?
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>>1083787 11 YEARS OF LIVING RENT FREE IN THEIR HEADS WHEN BOOMERS DIE THEY WILL HAVE NO AUDIENCE
>>1083787 >the toxic hellscape that the internet has now become Oh, so it's it's going back to normal, then? Nice.
>>1083787 >ctrl+F gamergate = 44 mentions [not including the 2 in the archive urls at the top] Rent Free! March 2015: "Hey in 10 years time they'll still be ranting about GamerGate." "[insert your 2015 response here]"
>>1083801 They found nothing. Some psychic said he saw where it was, but it was never verified or followed up on. Also, the story about large structures under the pyramids is also complete bullshit.
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>>1083801 >Remote viewer #32 Which one of you wizards is this?
>>1083802 I love how these disingenuous cunts pretend like the internet was this left wing utopia where nobody had political opinions. Meanwhile everywhere I went I saw people calling Bush W a monkey, and then doing the same to Obama.
>>1083801 >>1083805 >>1083807 Even assuming this is legit, they'll never get the damn thing, let alone announce it, and forget opening it. Doing so would basically end any claims the Kikes have to being legitmate.
>>1083812 >Doing so would basically end any claims the Kikes have to being legitmate. How so?
>>1083813 It wouldn't, and they run the CIA in the first place, so it doesn't matter.
>>1083813 The Kikes lost the fucking box in the first place because they turned their backs on God. And even then, their modern beliefs are completely disconnected from the Torah, it's laws, it's teachings, and the prophecies their own fucking prophets declared.
>>1083812 Devil's advocate: >Even assuming this is legit, Let's assume it is legit. >they'll never get the damn thing, Article says this op is from the 1980s, they've had nearly 40 years to recover it. >let alone announce it, This is true, regardless what happened it won't be announced. >and forget opening it. See previous point, if they opened it, they'll never announce it so no one finds out what happened.
>>1083812 Even to say they "located" it is a stretch. IIRC, much more focus was put on describing the box and how (or why not to) open it, than describing it's actual location. Not even sure how they came up with Ethiopia as a location. Basically, all we have to go on is that it's in a dark place in a middle eastern shithole surrounded by Mosques. Yeah, thanks bro. That really narrows it down. Also, the paper was released via FOIA back in 2008. No idea why people are claiming it's breaking news. Kind of the same thing with the Pyramid structures. The actual scientific paper was published in 2022 or thereabout, but nobody paid any attention to it until some conference in Italy where they made a bunch of ludicrous claims using 3D models that look to have ZERO correlation with any of the reference images or descriptions of the structures found in the paper. https://www.cia.gov/readingroom/docs/CIA-RDP96-00789R001300180002-7.pdf Synthetic Aperture Radar Doppler Tomography Reveals Details of Undiscovered High-Resolution Internal Structure of the Great Pyramid of Giza https://www.mdpi.com/2072-4292/14/20/5231?type=check_update&version=2
>>1083801 Is this why Israel hellbent into assimilating Palestine?
>>1083826 Take it for what it's worth, but I think the film "Waiting for Armageddon" claimed that the Jews are waiting for a messiah to kick the Muslims out and unify all of the holy land under Israel's rule. Certain Christian groups were funneling tons of money into supporting Israel because they thought that it meant Jesus was going to come back once the Muslims were kicked out and the temple rebuilt. Whereupon Jesus would immediately convert the Jews to Christians and kill those who still deny him, kicking off the rapture and the end of days.
>>1083829 >Whereupon Jesus would immediately convert the Jews to Christians and kill those who still deny him, kicking off the rapture and the end of days. Not quite. Pre-millennial dispensationalists think the rapture will take place before Jesus sets foot on the Earth.
>>1083821 So basically you're saying Raiders of the Lost Ark was predictive programming for when the thing gets found in some government warehouse?
>>1083832 Well, if anyone here is good at remote viewing, try finding where the Ark is now. If it's in "a dark place surrounded by wooden crates" then govt wherehouse it is.
>>1083833 >wherehouse wtf? *warehouse
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>>1083834 There house! There, castle!
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>>1083787 > What exactly was Gamergate? >a 24-year-old male programmer posted a more than 9,000-word tirade >tirade
>Ninja swords banned in the UK
>>1083839 Turning tricks is actually very brave! Women are strong for opening their legs to whoever gets them the highest paying job! GGGGGGGGGGRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLL POWAH!!!
>>1083840 These professional pearlclutchers would ban fists and teeth if they could.
>>1083842 The only thing the British government won't ban are the muslims raping British children.
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>>1083843 We need to send more welfare money towards those actually!
>>1083826 >>1083829 Basically building The Third Temple where the Al-Asqa Mosque is at. Gotta get rid of all the mooslims so they can knock it down, crown the king jew and kick start the end of the world.
>>1083849 Why does Europe even exist at this point? They should have just died out after giving birth to the United States. What are they even doing? Being assmad at Russia? I guess they're mad at the U.S. too now. Why? Why continue such a pathetic existence?
>>1083787 is that a fit amazing atheist on the left?
>>1083851 UK isn't the whole of Europe you dumb cocksucking mutt If anything, they're like this due to your faggot ass government.
>>1083854 >UK isn't the whole of Europe You're all very happy to find ways to continue WWIII and continue wasting American tax dollars while doing so. At least the kikes were smart enough to blackmail all of our politicians into going along with their schemes. Euros put forth no effort at all and expect Daddy America to carry them.
>>1083854 This but our upper class rather than government. The world economy is funneled into america.
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>>1083855 >At least the kikes were smart enough to blackmail all of our politicians into going along with their schemes And then they used you to invade us, you absolute dumbfuck. The EU is a USA concoction backed by the Marshall Plan, it's all the same kike scheme, perpetual debt. You're so high off the Orange kikes farts you're not only shitting on the birthplace of your nation where every fucking white ethnicity comes from, but you're also shitting on European people who want nothing to do with the remnants of a satellite state that is the EU. You either watch Fox News or you're a kike, either way, stop fucking posting you ignorant motherfucker.
>>1083859 Pay for your own shit. There's a reason we wanted to get away from you parasites.
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>>1083860 >There's a reason we wanted to get away from you parasites. And that did wonders to your gene pool! Fuckoff kike
>>1083861 Again, pay for your own shit, freeloader.
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>>1083862 Pay for what? I welcome Russia with open arms!
>>1083851 We Americans pretty much fucked up Europe thanks to the cripple Roosevelt sucking off Stalin with every fiber of his being, and making sure England and France lost their empires. Plus deciding every country had to be exactly like the US, which gave us the wonderful examples of Zimbabwe and modern South Africa. I know you're baiting, but come on now.
>>1083866 You really should. Any day that I don't have to pay attention to an irrelevant plot of land on the earth is a good one.
>>1083866 Not like you're any better blaming everything on "Muh Yankees, it's all America's fault!" and then acting like Putin, who's as jewed to the gills as you point out Trump is, will be any better. Waving Red Banners and putting up Lenin statues, but this time without being able to name the jew like the actual Soviet Union. Sure sounds great, better than Ameriga :D
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>>1083869 >Any day that I don't have to pay attention to an irrelevant plot of land on the earth is a good one. Damn, you must be miserable living in a flyover state! Hopefully you get to meet up with Moloch soon. >>1083870 >everything Fuck no, tons of socialist and koo aid drinking motherfuckers in this continent as well, even before the USA invasion. But it's been fucking decades of conditioning that's only finally being broken due to economic downturn and Boomers finally going 6 feet under >Putin, who's as jewed to the gills as you point out Trump is Putin doesn't have half the country filled with niggers and spics, nor does he have Democrats and Rhinos up his ass. The only people pissed about Trumps geopolitical move are old fucks living off absurd welfare checks, halfwits retarded enough to watch TV and the pathetic puppet governments sustaining themselves off of USA money.
>>1083778 >He's saying it's based because he's a normalfaggot. Fixed.
>Luciano Niggerpill is finally killing himself Finally!
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What a fucking meltdown.
>>1083611 Put bluntly, now that the tide is (finally) beginning to shift against leftism on an institutional level (corpos trying to cozy up to Trump), the consequences of desperation to have ANYONE propped up for speaking openly against the insane freaks for the sake of sanity not being entirely mute are beginning to have consequences. Everyone has their own image of how far to press their advantage: many of them were normalfags who were comfortable with the 2010s status quo but don't want to go as far back as even the 2000s, others were two-faced shysters only saying what they needed to before betraying their followers after getting their foot in the system's door (Vavra of KCD for instance), and some just can't shake the inherent (((anti-racism))) Pavlovian conditioning that nearly all human beings who live in a western country are exposed to and feel that, now that people who say the nigger word are in a position to actually get into positions of power, they need to freak out and flip to helping the leftists because they physically cannot envision such a world without experiencing mortal terror - as was bred into them. it's not that different to the schism between /pol/ and /v/ (then /v/ with everyone else in the "grassroots movement") during the OG Gamergate days. You just can't rely on anyone who uses social media as a career because they're motivated by money and normalfag attention (not even just Twatter or Youtube - always remember how Bitchute cucked out). >>1083883 >Luciano Niggerpill is finally killing himself Unless you can substantiate that claim, I'll thank you not to get anyone's hopes up. Considering Luciano's been a name since 2017 pre-Cuckflare betraying 8chan, it's just gonna keep happening until someone finally takes his fedposting advice and shoots him (so never, really).
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>>1083886 *Muttdown >>1083887 They also get to be the underdog everytime How convenient!
>>1083874 >Putin doesn't have half his country filled with niggers and spics No, but he does have plenty of muslims and asiatics (and not the kawaii waifu east asians everyone faps over on this site, these are steppe niggers)
Wait do we have an actual vatnik shill?
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>>1083889 >No, but he does have plenty of muslims and asiatics Yeah, because they actually conquered those territories and they usually keep themselves in it. >>1083890 You had a nigger president, what's one more rusnig shill compared to that?
>>1083887 Do you guys seriously believe all this Luciano crap? It's obvious any blackpiller and fedposter gets labelled as Luciano, reminds me of how Chris chan used to believe that all of his trolls were the same guy in a pickle suit. I don't know how you faggots even made the connection to that retard in the OAG comments section.
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>>1083893 He literally repeats the same tactics ad nauseam.
>>1083895 Are those "same tactics" vague generic faggotry or trolling that anyone can do?
>>1083893 He has a very distinctive posting style that's riddled with absolutist statements. He also has a fondness of using "KEK!" (verbatim). It's not really difficult to tell when a bunch of (1)s appear in rapid sequence saying similar short sentences like "Authorities don't matter. The jews always lose." and "Even more reason to kill jews." Like, he doesn't vary it up, engage in longer conversation under any given ID, or otherwise act in even a vaguely organic fashion. It's just a bunch of catchphrases and madlibs quips.
>>1083893 He's literally been doing this for years.
>>1083889 >the kawaii waifu east asians everyone faps over on this site Damn right I do!
TSUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUU
>>1083205 If something is shit then you shouldn't bother with it, not try to use some picture generator to "fix" it.
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>>1083911 >France >We shut down conservative TV stations That's 100% bullshit Neither channel were shut down they were denied free public diffusion Neither channel were conservative, one was MTV reruns and trash local reality shows while the other was the most benign shit ever besides the one talk show that got it trouble over and over again because the jewish host couldn't contain his degeneracy and jewishness.
>>1083911 You have to pick one of these countries to live for the rest of your life. The choice is yours. Live or die. Make your choice
>>1083911 ziggers mad
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>it's another transatlantic shitflinging episode
>>1083931 Canada. As proven by pajeets, it's easier to jump the border to a better place there. The rest border shitholes or nothing at all.
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>>1083893 >reasonable post eggsplains what's going on <Lucy chimps out because the post correctly shows even normalfags will get tired of being mugged and raped 24/7 into homelessness and immediately accuses the post of being him Yeah so anyways time to taunt him by uploading visual content that is not CSAM but he think is literally the same as a 3 foot tall nondwarf being pressured to pose in minimal clothing under duress.
>>1083883 What happened? I missed everything. screencaps?
>>1083936 >because the post correctly shows even normalfags will get tired of being mugged and raped 24/7 into homelessness Don't put words in my or >>1083893's mouths; he didn't accuse me of being him, he was expressing skepticism to the existence of Luciano in general. Conversely, my post wasn't crowing that normalfags have a breaking point, it was cynicism that normalfags are slaves to their nature and will fuck up the pendulum-swing momentum because they're easily manipulated and incapable of crossing the mental block of centuries of indoctrination, as well as lamenting the fundamental human instinctual need to rally behind a public figure to get a message out.
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>>1083913 Are you who I think you are?
>>1083941 Nope I'm not val
>>1083934 at least they are taking the short rout, can you imagine shitflinging in the other direction?
>>1083911 >Germany's was good though. Men are more valuable than women. Why ruin a Man's life just because of some dumb parasite?
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>>1083935 That's not going to work, brotherman
>>1083945 Because the rapist is a sand nigger and sand niggers are not men/human
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>>1083969 children are so funny looking, they look like monkeys
>>1083972 loli, child, kid, mini humans, whatever they are called. they all look like monkeys too me and are funny looking
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>>1083780 >I hate Grummz for many reasons but the last straw for me was him shilling for Stellar Blade, a literal Sony published game from a developer that both do censorship. Its incredibly disappointing that these are the same devs that did Nikke, which are incredibly unapologetic when designing sexualized female characters. I don't understand why they team up with Sony. >>1083893 >It's obvious any blackpiller and fedposter gets labelled as Luciano
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>>1083978 anon, don't be a monkeyphobe
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>>1083941 Pretty sure Val fucked off a long time ago, though he wasn't the only Frenchman here.
>>1083984 All it's missing is a mole
>>1083976 > from a developer that both do censorship. What was censored
>>1083990 IIRC some of the outfits were modified to cover just a bit more skin, though the originals were eventually added again along with the censored versions.
>>1083890 >[buzzwords only paid NATO shills say] Begone, yid.
>>1084018 I don't know what a vatnik is, but I just said the nono word, so where do I collect my money?
>>1084018 I don't like Nato either.
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>>1083083 Benis :-------DDDD
>>1084020 Whether you're being paid or not, he'll decide you are anyway because he's an antagonizing twat.
>>1083890 Because there are Slavniggers who roam around English imageboards just shill their shithole country.
>>1083790 Look at that big 'ol jewcy boy! He's like an emperor penguin.
>>1083911 >>1083885 How pathetic, the EUSSR is more tyrannical n' shit than the USSA despite there still being more White people by % there (in Europe... although not for long), there might be a future other than a complete nightmare in the USSA since we avoided Kamala and her plan to Make America South Africa.
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>>1084063 You're a day early. Or is this an early April Fools?
>>1084064 I always try to put up a reminder three days in advance to account for timezones and stuff.
>>1084066 Does that include Moon Time seeing as Tewi is a moon rabbit?
>>1084067 Tewi is an Earth rabbit. All the other rabbit girls are Moon rabbits.
>>1083976 >I don't understand why they team up with Sony. Inertia, brand loyalty, and denial. Devs and more than a few Japanese gamers have refused to understand for a while that Sony - a Japanese company - have become race traitors who sold out to the gaijin, even after moving their headquarters to Commiefornia. It doesn't help that Nintendo, who pride themselves on a child friendly image nowadays, have engaged in their own censorship like what happened to Tokyo Mirage Sessions, so it's kind of damned-if-you-or-don't situation. There's PC, but even putting aside the fact Japs (even now that things are forcing them to reassess) don't like to consider PC anything more than a social media/shitposting device, devs are ambitious and know that going indie means losing corporate resources to truly make a game beyond Unity-engine level.
>>1084073 >Tokyo Mirage Sessions The evil that was done to this game makes me sick.
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>>1084063 I'm gonna tug it to the rabbit.
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>>1084079 >Censoring only some of the nipples
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>>1084081 You can go home now, Aitsu.
>>1084109 Who are you quoting
>>1084058 Massa?
is this the place to talk about what games we've been playing/.
>>1084116 It's >>1084116 if you might want replies or >>1081656 every friday if you don't, or here if it's woke.
>>1084116 No, this is the place to grab popcorn and watch the retards whine about who is whiter.
I'm Romanian and 100% white
So the tesla protesters will do boeing and lockheed martin next right?
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>>1084139 >I'm Romanian <100% white
>>1084144 Modern greeks are turkish mutts t.med
>>1084144 >Gayreek You were and still are Turkish boipussy. >>1084147 All medniggers are gay and they're mutts.
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>>1084144 Greeks are not white, Romanians are.
>>1084139 >>1084144 >>1084147 >>1084150 >>1084161 Gentlemen, please, you're all white.
>>1084163 Sardinians, East Finnish (finngolian), and Moksha/Erza are also not white. Slav outskirts are nigger-whites, begrudgingly. I’ve updated your chart to better reflect reality.
>1084163 >There are Italians, Greeks and Spainards who overlap with Jews >Tuscans nearly overlap with Jews as well >Cuban in the mix with Tuscans Yeah totally White. >>1084168 Was going to say this. East Finns have Asian ancestry.
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>>1084139 I'm white and 100% black.
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>>1084116 this place is for VIDEO GAMES
T*rks work in McDonalds or in Kebab shop as minimum wagie workers #TRUTHNUKE
>>1084178 There are a lot of light-skinned Persians
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>>1084174 Perfect!
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>>1084189 Yeah all the ones I've seen are pretty light in color
There seems to be a lot drama revolving around Genshit Impact and the latest VA union strike, SAG or some shit, going on. Something about a union VA being replaced due to striking for an entire year, leading to the union actors then going after the replacement for "stealing jobs". But really because he wasn't in with the whole clique so just another Vic situation all over again. It's like these people literally just want to make the argument for AI voices only more.
>>1084163 Where is this chart from?
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>>1084198 The situation is a bit more complicated than that. Basically VAs are striking right now, supposedly because of the AI shit (it's actually for a different reason they won't tell you). What this means for live service games like Genshit is some of the characters have been silent in the English dub for the past half year or so. But not all of them. Technically Union VAs aren't supposed to work for any project that isn't strictly union. This is why for years you had Union VAs using pseudonyms for games. For the most part the union kind of looked the other way when union VAs voiced in games like Genshit which also use non-union VAs and VAs from other countries who wouldn't be under FAG. However the FAGgots are trying to make a powerplay to make Genshit a pure union property. This is the real reason for the strike and the AI shit is just a smokescreen to garner sympathy (most VA companies already have agreements in place to prevent AI use). The agreement they want Homoverse to sign would defacto force every actor working on the game to either join FAG (outright impossible for foreigners and unpalatable for people don't want to join a mafia family) or get replaced. The result is Homoverse is simply replacing the FAGs one by one. The voice actress for Paimon is an excellent example of hypocrisy because she continues to voice for the game which, by the definitions of their union and especially the ongoing strike, is absolutely scabbing. She attacked this guy majorly for doing...what she's already doing. She of course says she has autism and needs to pay the bills so it's okay when she does it. The guy who replaced the character in question is a Japanese national, which means he's not eligible for FAG and wouldn't care about it. The upshot of this is basically the entire Genshit community, faggots though they are, have basically turned against the union whereas before they were more or less on their side. Now "replace them all" is the prevailing sentiment. You have to fuck up pretty bad for dubshitters to turn on you. Overall a big embarrassment for the FAG union that might end up completely breaking them.
>>1084208 Thanks for the summary. Last time I paid attention to any Genshit controversy was back when the VAs were complaining about the new region of the fictional in-game continent not having black people in it. Or something of the sort.
>>1084198 Replace them all with AI. Problem solved.
>>1084214 They lost that one too. No one was changed. Homoverse simply ignored them and eventually they shut up.
>>1084202 I've been desperately trying to recover the original paper for the longest time. Reverse image search is useless because the original file is 1. very large and 2. apparently not very unique, according to search engines. There are hundreds of thousands of papers on genetics out there, and there's no way for me to brute force search for a single image in a single appendix, particularly if the paper is paywalled (not a problem for me to obtain, but a problem to search for since search engines don't crawl Sci-Hub).
>>1084208 The real funny part is all the union goons acting like text-to-speech will be using their voice, as though it's worth something. In reality, once it can more reliably "act" the only value existing VAs, outside a few mega celebs (the kind of A list actor normalfags will recognize the voice of), will have is legacy roles. You don't need an actor's voice for training data. Just the public domain will provide ample training data between spoken records and talkies (which modern tools can clean up and isolate the voices from automatically) that become copyright free every year, politicians (works of US government are public domain, and several European government agencies release things under CC-By by default), and even just random people payed to talk to a microphone. Once someone decides their indie game will star Ronald Reagan and Theodore Roosevelt, the floodgates are never coming back.
>>1084191 Umayyad?
>>1084208 Important to note the FAGs also charge fees and other shit aside of exploitative agreement of anyone trying to get on their Union so they are trying to make a situation where they blackmail every VA into getting into their shit Union
>>1084227 Good luck trying to pull that monopolistic shit with the foreign VAs not beholden to the same laws that enable their bullshit union chicanery. They don't care or have the self-awareness to see how they've poisoned the well for future western voice acting, it's become too toxic. >>1084208 >FAGgots are trying to make a powerplay to make Genshit a pure union property Curious to know who are the big corporate backers behind these groups because of course there are. Always the same parasitic, cultural marxist ideologues latching on to everything too. Both localiars and western VAs are practically the same people holding the same agenda. They figure now they can utilize the unions as leverage to hustle companies over when they can't go overseas to pozz at the production level.
>>1084243 >Curious to know who are the big corporate backers behind these groups because of course there are. Always the same parasitic, cultural marxist ideologues latching on to everything too. >Both localiars and western VAs are practically the same people holding the same agenda. They figure now they can utilize the unions as leverage to hustle companies over when they can't go overseas to pozz at the production level. Anon FAG is one of the biggest cartels in media and has been since long before we were born. Their backers are common knowledge. The same kikes who have been pushing this shit in Hollyjew since it's beginning.
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>>1084177 Ah yes, vidya.
>>1084246 How does one get rid of SAG? Is there anything we can do on the consumer level?
>>1084250 lol. lmao, even.
>>1084254 Not an argument.
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>>1084250 Honestly? Time is really the only option, anon. The modern internet has done much to completely destroy the classic notion of celebrity, one of the biggest sources of power the FAGs had. The biggest thing that will kill them is irrelevancy. Give people other options for entertainment and give companies reliable alternatives to work around the unions and suddenly their mob tactics are worth less than nothing.
>>1084208 Interesting summary. Any social media posts about this to laugh at?
>>1084260 >The biggest thing that will kill them is irrelevancy. Give people other options for entertainment and give companies reliable alternatives to work around the unions and suddenly their mob tactics are worth less than nothing. I think you're being naive about the nature of the enemy here. A voice actor's union isn't like Sweet Baby Inc where they rely on being invisible to whisper in company's ears, they rely on predatory contracts and the incestuous nature of the entertainment industry (the fact every corporation uses the same small pool of Yuri Lowenthal, Troy Baker, etc because they're already established). Forming a new union risks them becoming just as bad as SAG over time (you should know how good leftists are at infiltration at this point) and being a non-union VA is infamously difficult because there's a million wannabe VAs on places like Castingcall.club and you don't have a union to help advertise/force you through the door.
>>1084250 Stop hiring them.
>>1084163 Wait a fuckin' minute, I don't see ONE THING about niggers on here!!!
>>1084327 I can't tell if you're going meta or schizophrenic.
>>1084329 I just do whatever I feel like doing, as long as I'm having fun.
>>1084333 Is Rad Dude streaming Futarina getting bullied via vaping through fake gamer cred? I can't tell if that's hilarious or just fucked up.
>>1084333 >>1084336 >I just read the name of the vape flavor Jesus fucking Christ dude.
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Large multi terabyte leak on K-pop just happened https://archive.ph/jKoDa Do you think there might be any 7 Goddess/Megalia shit in there?
>>1084340 >When North Korea is more sane in regards What the fuck is wrong with worst Korea?
>>1084208 These are the same people who fucked poor Vic.
>>1084340 Likely, but did anyone manage to get the files hough?
>>1084342 North Korea is best Korea for a reason. Ever notice that despite how much of a shithole the north is, it still isn't ruled by a bunch of weird cults and CIA glowies?
>>1084353 Considering everything is over 500TB in size, I would be surprised if anyone even managed to do so. I am surprised he even had a platform to host all of that data.
>>1084369 Could just be a hoax too,i didn't find any links but i didn't really look a lot for it
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sNEA0sglO5A 4 years of e-fame attention whoring finally ended.
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>>1084381 >>1084382 A TRIANGLE HAS FALLEN!
>>1084382 Funny how they invaded occupy wall street and anonymous with social justice warriors and became utterly ineffective at changing anything, 4 years of biden and close to control of congress and nothing.
>>1084381 >>1084384 Who? Sorry not sorry for not giving a fuck about internet e-celebs
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>>1084393 Faggot nigger.
>>1084381 This is what happens when you find no purpose in life.
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>>1084261 Capped these from Hero Hei's channel another faggot who can't into archiving his shit. Some fallout from the chink side of things and the backlash and damage control on the reddit and Xwatter sphere. No idea how the fuck little koruboh fits into all this with his obvious concern trolling. Recall he was also all over the kick_Vic shitstorm too so guessing he still has to grift for some form of relevance.
>>1084384 I hope they lock his ass up tbh
>>1084420 Also <paimon's en voice is too high-pitched, she sounds more like those elves than a small child, everytime I use en dub and listen to her I feel like my head is exploding
>>1084393 >Not recognizing the antiGG SJW who co opted Anonymous and is friends with the traitorous cripple kike who made themselves both enemies of 8chan. Are you new?
>>1084384 literally who?
>>1084432 Kirtaner, one of the trianglefags and a literal glownigger hacker contracted by the Canadian government. Along with the other trangles, he tried to commandeer gamergate, he also doxed the Canadian truckers.
>>1084432 >>1084437 He also made 420chan
RIP ;_;7
>>1084424 >Not Joshua Moon Doesn't he have a hate boner against us
>>1084453 Yeah, why do you ask?
>>1084455 Your naming scheme is kinda random, that's why.
>>1084456 I'm pretty sure 420 chan smoke weed every day would cry DICKS EVERYWHERE
Try to remember your rabbits tomorrow!
>>1084474 I could if gifs werent disabled.
>>1084477 fuck rabbits delete rabbits I don't give a fuck about rabbits.
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>>1084451 Oy vey, it's anuddah shoah!
>>1084499 Yeah, Kern is a piece of shit and likely a plant. What else is new?
>>1084502 https://archive.ph/cTxSJ Stop being mean to Acid Man's pet nigger, gaymergays!
>>1084499 >"more of a fraud than Yandev" >those terrible fucking questions Can you fags go 5 seconds without turning into the same kind of leftists that eat their own at a moment's notice? No, Kern is not the same as a nodev who literally betrayed 8chan and censored his game to appeal to aGGro journalists, Kern actually contributed development towards significant and noteworthy games in the past. You can arguably call him a hack, sure, and a retard for going after low-hanging fruit on Twitter and jumping the gun at times, but he's not a fraud just because his current game is slow or early in development. (Not to mention it's supposed to be an MMO which pretty much requires huge amounts of time, manpower and money to develop in general, not remotely comparable to an indie dev's simple project but I digress)
>>1084504 >Can you fags go 5 seconds without turning into the same kind of leftists that eat their own at a moment's notice? Have you ever considered that it's those kinds of people posting this kind of drama rather than it being a part of any natural discussion?
>>1084505 Probably, but it's getting to happen frequently enough that I can't help but wonder if some regular anons are just getting bored and would prefer to start ultimately pointless discussions like this than doing anything productive.
>>1084504 So what about his tax evasion? You don't think he has less than pure intentions just trying to cynically make money off of people like how LW crowdfunded that Chuck Tingle game and then failed to deliver after spending it on overseas trips? Or the whole thing with Vavra going back on his word about historical authenticity? And in other news, right wing frog politician, Marine Le Pen just got arrested for "embezzling EU funds" https://archive.ph/HgTcr https://archive.ph/XLo94 >>1084507 So what productive thing have you done for Gamergate, lately?
>>1084504 >turning into the same kind of leftists They ARE leftists. This is the bog-standard Alanskist character-assassination attempt of some evil reactionary right-wing nazi bad person. There's kinda no point anymore, because gamergate won a complete victory, but leftists are delusional retards.
>>1084504 >but he's not a fraud just because his current game is slow or early in development He absolutely is a fraud since he was taking money for eight years and has nothing to show for it.
>>1084511 >>1084514 >>1084518 What's the difference between character assassination and just straight up reporting why a person's untrustworthy/did some bad things? Was it a "character assassination" when everyone with a brain knew Quinn was never going to produce a game after Depression Quest? Or telling everyone how journalists in general are corrupt lying retards? Or Internet Aristocrat/Metokur/Jim doing a 180 on Gamergate and getting paid to do videos? The Watkins are painted as evil right wing reactionaries by people who hate Trump and QAnon, but are you going to say that they did nothing wrong? Do I even need to say anything about cripplekike himself, especially after he had red flags that people ignored because /intl/ (remember them?) was hating on him too?
>>1084510 >what about his tax evasion Unpaid taxes aren't automatically "evasion", and he presumably either paid them already or settled the affair. That was over a decade ago, if they had anything on him that they could put him in prison for, they'd have done it already. Mistakes and/or corruption happen all the time, especially in heavily leftist cities. Remember what Jew York tried to do to Louis Rossmann? >so what productive thing have you done for Gamergate lately I'm working on other projects at the moment. Most recent thing I did was looking into the Vavra KCD2 shit to actually confirm the rumors were true or not, and cataloging old archives for notable instances of past vidya censorship. >>1084514 >nothing to show for it Its not a game in public development. If his company somehow goes defunct without even a closed beta, I'll agree then that he's most likely a fraud (or at best, someone who comically mismanages shit).
>>1084521 He admitted that he was taking money for five years within the project and got nothing done.
>>1084524 Source?
>>1084525 There isn't any.
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>>1084521 Good point in his favor. Can you give a quick refresher on Rossman? I heard they tried screwing with his business before but forgot the specifics. My bookI MEAN Tachyon Blu's upcoming book on Gamergate also received a nice cover for it, haha. >>1084525 Probably in one of the Stuttering Craig Sidescrollers streams, they have him as one of their guests from time to time and they touched upon this in a recent video where he and a woman argue whether he's intentionally scamming or if he's just very poor at organizing things.
>>1084529 Jew York constantly sends business tax bills to him long after he has left the entire state and moved his business out of Jew York.
>>1084526 >>1084528 My boss saw those illicit images & questioned the age. Upon explaining that drawings are not real people thus their age is also fictional & therefore tangible harm is impossible my boss increased my salary seven-fold before departing to the restroom to masturbate to lolicon materials. Unfortunately, then the Texas authorities burst through the office door & shot us both so now I'm a ghost. I'm stuck in limbo for the time being & the internet speed is kinda shit here.
>>1084529 >can you give a quick refresher on Rossmann. In a nutshell they basically kept trying to impose false taxes on him, and he revealed massive errors in their accounting, iirc with him owing pennies at most compared to the massive amounts they were alleging he owed them. They refused to acknowledge their mistakes when he pressed through the bureaucratic chain of command and he basically had to force them to acknowledge shit, but it was like pulling teeth. They even audited him and put a lien on his business but it was all bullshit. He's got a playlist about his experience. https://inv.nadeko.net/playlist?list=PLkVbIsAWN2ls-WXrvFtAxoJ_VZIMSG9Z3 >probably in one of the Stuttering Craig Sidescroller streams A likely offhand remark during an argument on an informal podcast/stream (assuming it did indeed happen) isn't much of a statement to go off of. If it's indeed true though, that's really not good. The sad part is I just checked his game's Twitter accoint, and even as unreleased, bland assets, some of his stuff still looks better than the other shit I've seen being made by "ex-Blizzard developers" these days. Though that's not saying much given they all seem to be making crap.
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>>1084533 Fuckin' Mondays. Garfield was right.
Get better material you retarded faggot.
>>1084534 >They even audited him and put a lien on his business but it was all bullshit. He's got a playlist about his experience. The best part is, they sent all the letters regarding the lien to a wrong address in a wrong state. He had no knowledge of the lien for years, but every bank did, which made getting a loan for the business next to impossible.
Is this some kind of trannyfarm raid?
>>1084548 Yes. Even if Mark Kern is exactly what they claim, which mostly looks like hot air, there's no world where talking about him matters at all. It's just the usual D&C and distraction sliding.
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>>1084548 It's niggerpill
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The only people who act like Kern is the devil are Sjws and centrists. He's a fucking moron who really should finish his shit game and etc. But he's not a major threat to anything.
>>1084420 thank you. Seeing even normalfags call them out is interesting, they lost a lot of good will >>1084551 Mark Kern deserves mockery but the level in which they think he is a threat is amusing. So I'm of the opinion of letting them fight.
Karl Jobst just lost his defamation trial, an Australian judge ordered him to pay Billy Mitchell 400k dollary doos in damages. Here's the livestream of the judgement: https://www.youtube.com/live/d-R-dY_aPto
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>>1084555 Billy won again by cheating again he paid the judge
>>1084558 Apparently it was Karl's claims about Apollo Legend's suicide that fucked up his case coupled with all his gloating and shitting on Mitchell both before and during the trial. The judge barely touches on the cheating, instead he talks at length about the claims of Apollo Legend's suicide being caused by Mitchell and he shits on Karl a lot for making those claims.
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>>1084555 >Karl Jobst
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>>1084555 >Australian Not surprising that he lost, that place is a kangaroo court
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>>1084555 Billy wins again.
>>1084555 >>1084562 Well can't say i'm shocked Karl fucked things up. He's in a Defamation trial, and he's been making half his income based on shitting on the guy he's in the trial against for defamation. He Essentially been grifting everything related to Billy Mitchell for years now, to make a quick buck. Instead of just being professional about the entire thing and letting the court decide. I'm only a little Surprised his Lawyer has been giving him the go ahead to be doing that shit. >>1084564 Was most famous as a Goldeneye Speedrunner, until the majority of his content has now become making videos about people who have been caught cheating at Speedrunning, or other High Leaderboard Positions. Billy Mitchell obvously being the most obvious person to make content about in this regard, but he's been milking that cow until it now seems to have died.
>>1084567 >>1084565 Apparently the guy also has cancer and recently got a bunch tumors removed from his face, he might actually end it after this judgement.
>>1084555 Billy did nothing wrong.
>>1084555 Damn, I didn't think he'd lose. I hope Billy gets run over by a car or something. >>1084567 >He's in a Defamation trial, and he's been making half his income based on shitting on the guy he's in the trial against for defamation. He Essentially been grifting everything related to Billy Mitchell for years now, to make a quick buck. Instead of just being professional about the entire thing and letting the court decide Guess I should have expected that. That's pretty much shooting yourself in the foot. >the majority of his content has now become making videos about people who have been caught cheating at Speedrunning, or other High Leaderboard Positions He was also one of the guys who called out The Completionist (the eCeleb who was on the G4TV revival) for charity fraud. >>1084562 >Apparently it was Karl's claims about Apollo Legend's suicide that fucked up his case coupled with all his gloating and shitting on Mitchell both before and during the trial That was fucking retarded of him.
>>1084510 >So what about his tax evasion? Taxation is theft. What the government calls "tax evasion" is more accurately described as theft evasion.
>>1084569 >Billy sued someone so hard they considering killing themselves BOW DOWN TO THE KING OF KONGS
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>>1084520 >>1084504 >>1084505 >>1084511 See, this is why I meant in >>1083887 by "desperation to have ANYONE speaking against leftism" and it having consequences in the form of being manipulated by perceived lack of options. It's a mindset that bleed in even here, trying to defend faggots that don't deserve it because they're on ">our" side. >>1084555 >>1084562 >>1084567 People never fucking learn not to treat the Jewdical System like it's a done deal just because the truth's on their side, in spite of how easy it is to get loophole'd or screw yourself over by showboating. Vic Mignogna's lawyer Ty Beard did the same thing. God, fucking retards letting OTHER WORSE retards get away.
>>1084503 Unironically Finn would've been a better protag than whatsherface. >>1084555 HE CAN'T KEEP GETTING AWAY WITH THIS And Karl was supposed to be the smarter of two clowns, how'd he let his ego fuck himself up so badly?
>>1084582 >Unironically Finn would've been a better protag than whatsherface. No he wouldn't it would still be poorly written dogshit
>>1084582 Jon Boyega's an ugly nigger & Finn at his core is just a black copy of Kyle Katarn with the edges smoothed off. He never had potential. People should've never acted like he could've been anything but a diversity hire.
>>1084586 It's only on a marginal level, since Finn as a rogue Storm Trooper ruins less characters by association than Rey dragging both Palpatine and the Skywalkers down with her.
>>1084582 >how'd he let his ego fuck himself up so badly? Probably came from the fact he's been doing YouTube instead of getting a real job. >>1084587 I mean, Kyle Katarn and Finn really aren't that similar. Only the fact they once worked for the Empire and eventually wield a lightsaber is. Katarn skips large potions of his life and leaves the Imperial Offer part as just backstory, and Dark Forces 1 just skips to him being a Mercenary. Finn we see having been a Stormtrooper, and how it fucked him up, there is plenty of interesting story potential in someone who just stopped being a Stormtrooper, if they took that seriously, but they never did. >>1084586 It's clear now Disney were overconfident retards who thought there were too big to fail, but any Competent writer could have easily pulled off the Sequel Trilogy even with the base starting characters in The Force Awakens.
>>1084586 >No he wouldn't <compared to the actual Mary Sue with no character development, atrocious writing, along with a number of asspulls that rival the phalanx ciws bullets-per-minute count Any amateur writer could see Finn, realize "oh he has room to grow, a legitimately interesting character arc concept against the Empire (Gayer), and character flaws." His inception was retarded DEI shit, but a competent writer wouldn't have done anything that the new trilogy did could've turned him into a real decent character. >>1084587 >black copy of Kyle Katarn with the edges smoothed off >never had potential Maybe not as much potential, but regardless under the three directors he fell even more than that. What gut shot his potential was not the basic character concept, but the fact (((Yidsney))) & co was desperate to tank their product, as quickly as possible, for the CEO equivalent of fortnite v-bucks (larry fink gibs). Every character in the entire trilogy and in most side stories suffered like this. Pretending otherwise is fucking retarded.
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>>1084529 >Ashion While I'm glad she's still drawing, that Vivian seems remarkably generic. Not like her usual Viv style at all. I wonder if it's deliberate. Maybe the commissioner requested it that way?
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>>1084555 >Karl >Billy I literally have no idea who these people are.
>>1084586 It'd be poorly written dogshit that would've needed something other than GRRL POWUR to hard carry it. >>1084589 Exactly, better =/= good, 3/10 is better than 2/10. >>1084592 >under the three directors Two, Abrams did 7 and 9. >>1084594 World's oldest and most notorious video game cheater who ran his own boomer clique and sued anyone who used him as a joke, and a youtube journalist who farmed him for content. Billy deserved a legal ass fucking and got saved by Karl shitposting too hard, too much, and too soon. If there were more people on this board there'd be as much outrage as the Vic Mignogna case from years back, a "totally in the bag" court case getting fucked because of the (((judicial system))) and its failings.
He won.
>>1084575 Thanks fam. Savin' dis pic ta own the lolichuds, fr fr no cap!
>>1084580 >by "desperation to have ANYONE speaking against leftism" and it having consequences in the form of being manipulated by perceived lack of options. Okay, but what good alternatives are there to Steam if I want to support games I like? And don't say GOG, you know they're pozzed.
>>1084599 >steam Different "lack of options" problem than what I was referring to, but don't the japs at least have their own site for games? DLsite or something?
>>1084600 Taxes developers exorbitantly. I don't have the pricing chart, but I think average merchant cut is 40% of the base price you're charging your customers. Has an 18+ section, but it's cucked by Jap censorship laws. Has censored tons of porn tags a year ago in some vain attempt to appease payment processors. Has made mangaka and h-game devs censor not only ages in lolishota works, but fucking clothes like randoseru (grade schooler backpack). I don't think spoilered pic related was from DLsite, but rather, made in jest.
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>>1084575 What's the follow up after the image? What are twittertards supposed to do if the target in question doesn't deny the allegations?
>>1084600 >>1084603 And that's on top of it only being for the Japs. Sure, you can get EN versions of games on there, but I doubt it's easy to get any foreigner made games on there.
>>1084604 If they don't deny the allegations, they just get ratio'd harder. Various follow-up will be more generic, like >He's cooked 💀💀💀 ong ong 💀💀💀 My question is, why do you think they need a follow up? Once you've admitted to being a pedonigger, you've essentially shot yourself in the balls. "Owning up to the allegations" only works if what's alleged is a defensible position.
>>1084606 >My question is, why do you think they need a follow up? Wouldn't know, I don't argue much on the internet anymore so I'm out of the loop with this.
>>1084604 Follow up? Nah that's the whole joke, just calling someone a pedo haha :^). It's racist Goku in reverse.
>>1084607 >Out of the loop on how admitting to being a pedophiles is basically conceding any point that someone calling you a pedophile is trying to argue I don't think this has to do with being terminally online. It's just common sense.
>>1084604 Niggers only start to understand when you use dragon ball memes against them.
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>>1084319 Because this is only a PCH chart for Homo europeansis, the caucasoid species. Homo africanis is an entirely different species, way, WAY removed outside the distances seen on this map. >>1084261
So what happened to sweet baby inc anyway?
>>1083504 Theres also the fact that we're getting more migrants bringing in their anchor babies who weren't raised on the holocaust religion, so when they enter school, the holocause monthly classes will just go through their heads, they don't care.
>>1084599 You can send them a cashiers check in the mail or something.
>>1084613 They still exist. They were at gamescom talking their usual bullshit. But you don't hear about game companies using them as much. Likely switching to less well-known names.
>>1084368 i kind of worry about the preservation of nork vidya
>>1084533 >Texas Fuck those faggots.
>>1084622 I sincerely don't care


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