>>473821 Have you thought about killing yourself already? 4cuck Jannies aren't humans

>>473831 Can't say the thought has crossed my mind

>>473821 >I will not answer anything that can potentially reveal my identity Fair enough. >and will also refrain from offering my own personal viewpoints Then what's the fucking point? The technical details are public knowledge.

>>473821 when will you fags fix 4chan already >hasnt been updated since 2016 <never

>>473821 Why do you people work so diligently to ruin every board forever? Effortposting? BANNED Spamming for multiple hours? IGNORED Seriously it'd be better to have no moderation whatsoever than to have actively deleterious moderation. Every single mod and janny can get the boot, especially that faggot in charge of /toy/ who let one autist ruin /tfg/ for everybody. Fuck that guy, I hope he slips in the shower and breaks his goddamned neck, faggot.

Are you ok?

>>473821 /cm/ got deleted again didn't it?

>>473847 I can answer questions on the relationship between mods and jannies or how much information we have. Like you said you have the entire source code so there's likely more insight on the technical workings of the site than any janny (or even most mods) knew previously. >>473854 The issue is that there is absolutely zero cohesion in the interpretation of rules. You can show the same post to three different janitors and one will clear it, one will submit a warm request, and one will submit a ban request. Ironically most mods seem to be much more ban happy than some of the janitors, even though GrapeApe continues telling everyone in the discord to be more lenient and clear more reports than they delete/request actions to be taken on. I also think it's fair to say it's impossible to please everyone. I spent a lot of time reading through the kiwifarms thread and in it were some people complaining that they can't spam nigger and faggot and call everyone a jew and others complaining about how spammers and low quality posts are left up. These people don't realize it since they're united in their hatred of jannies, but they're actually complaining about each other.

>>473821 did they talk about me on /j/?

>>473876 /j/ is the biggest nothingburger anons care about. It's barely used anymore and there isn't anything juicy on there. It's all public now so you can take a look and you'll likely end up agreeing with me.

>>473873 I have no idea, internally though they seem to be very optimistic about having the site up again soon. They're indicating less than 48 hours.

>>473884 do they talk about me on janny discord?

>>473821 >ask a janitor anything Do you enjoy cleaning my shitposts that go too far knowing full well I will change my proxy and post it again after the the timer runs out? :3 Can jannies see who posts what or is that just mods or is it solely an admin thing? Why have the mods been so quick to hand out permabans over obvious skitzo posts on r9k as of late? Why did you want to become a janny?

>>473821 why do you post bbc

>>473886 What can we expect moderation-wise regarding the drama when it's back up? I'm guessing there's gonna be a lot of effort put into removing off topic discussions about the hack, leaks and fallout?

>>473875 >The issue is that there is absolutely zero cohesion in the interpretation of rules. What an obvious and glaring flaw, seems like you could fix that with an emailed memo or hour-long zoom meeting to get everybody on board with one understanding of things. Or by hiring on jannies who aren't retarded and innately understand the rules they're meant to enforce, but apparently that's too tall an order. Unrelated but that one mod on /sci/ who increased the image limit for /sfg/ is alright, if largely absent 90% of the time. The lone /toy/ mod who let that board languish, THAT guy can get fucked.

>>473890 No clue who you are but probably not >>473896 >Can jannies see who posts what or is that just mods or is it solely an admin thing? Only mods, but jannies can open up the ban request panel on any post and see how many outstanding requests there are. You can use this to try and track a user throughout a thread. >Why did you want to become a janny? I thought I could improve the site but feedback from janitors is just as useless as feedback from users. Many janitors are power tripping retards but some aren't, the problem is that there's no way for the more laid back ones to undo or fix problems caused by banhappy janitors/mods.

>>473821 Yeah and your dad works at nintendo and everyone clapped. Fake and gay.

>>473821 i got banned for a thread on r9k they said it should go in advice but half the threads on r9k are about advice in someway so it made me angry

>>473821 Why is hiro such a fat lazy cunt and why did he do nothing to reign in the blatant power tripping and retardation from the mods? When is 4chan getting sound in webm/mp4 support and a higher file limit? I can't go back after the 50MB here. When is the site going back online?

>>473875 >I can answer questions on the relationship between mods and jannies or how much information we have We already have those details. Again what is the fucking point

>>473912 The answer to your first two questions are probably "because it's still making money anyway so why try harder". The answer to your last question is "eventually, because it's still making money anyway, but not very soon, because we don't try very hard".

>>473903 There likely won't be an official response. My guess is all leaked info gets added to a blacklist and people posting that info get permabanned, but that's just speculation from me. These kinds of decisions are made without the input of janitors. In fact most of the mods aren't kept in the loop either about these kinds of things, they find out at the same time as janitors and users. >>473905 There's a lot that can be fixed easily but the people at the top of the pyramid have been there since the beginning so they feel like they're the experts and nobody else is ever worth listening to. Junior mods also can't really go against the more senior ones so it's extremely difficult to actually bring about any change unless GrapeApe or one of the other bigwigs agrees.

>>473918 Is he going to try harder after getting his peepee slapped really hard recently? Also, can we get the Strip Filenames feature this place has, because I like to autistically sort my images and having a way to prevent sperg fags from tracking me by filename is really nice.

>>473911 I do not understand why they refuse to just move these threads to the appropriate boards. The fifteen minute timer on top of the retarded ban justifications was already killing the site.

>>473923 >aren't in the loop Can you request a face to face meeting with Hiro and when you get there, scream in his ear really really REALLY fucking loudly "STOP BEING A FUCKING NIGGER AND ORGANIZE PEOPLE BETTER YOU LAZY PIECE OF FUCKING TRASH OR SELL THE SITE TO SOMEONE WHO CARES"?

>>473927 > the Strip Filenames feature use 4chanx, it has that.

>>473931 Because they are lazy. That's the honest answer.

>>473821 Do you like cleaning up my doody for free retard?

>>473935 Wait really? I used x for years and combed over the options countless times just messing with shit to see what it does and never noticed that.

>>473912 Hiro has never publicly interacted in the discord and the majority of mods have never had an interaction with him. At best he is in contact with GrapeApe, MVB, and desuwa as the developer. >When is the site going back online Yesterday they said it would be back in a day or 2

>>473923 If the staff are corrupt then fire them all, clean house entirely. Why keep on bad moderators? Fuck their supposed legacy, they're doing it rong and should go away. >>473934 This too, when I say clean house I mean Hiro leaves too, he has no business owning an image board which he has no interest in maintaining, it should be in somebody else's hands from now on.

>>473934 I'm honestly surprised Elon hasn't offered to buy 4chan. He could get it for peanuts and it would earn him some of that sweet gamer cred he craves

>>473944 Why the fuck does he not sell the place if he clearly does not give a shit about the place at all? Why doesn't he get someone to actually monitor the place in his place if he's going to be such an absent retard?

>>473946 >This too, when I say clean house I mean Hiro leaves too, he has no business owning an image board This. It was better when the American creator was in charge. Fuck chinks

>>473931 I can't say for sure but janitors cannot move threads to other boards, the only way to do so is to post it in the discord and ask for it to be moved and hope a mod sees your request. It's much easier to just delete the thread which is what many janitors do, if there was a way to request moves in the janitor tools it may solve that problem. >>473946 I wouldn't say they're corrupt they're just old and bitter. >fire them all And who exactly has the authority to do this? Hiro has no clue what's going on with the site or the staff and the "corrupt" mods you're talking about are the people actually running the site. You'll have to wait for them to die of old age before anything about the site changes.

I find it hilarious that the site has essentially not been worked on in any capacity since moot left.

>>473950 I really don't know what's in it for him. Mods have implied on several occasions that the site makes virtually no money and from what we've learned after the hack I'm inclined to believe it.

>>473954 >Hiro has no clue what's going on with the site or the staff HE OWNS THE FUCKING SITE HE HAS AN OBLIGATION TO KNOW IF HE DOESN'T, HE SHOULDN'T BE IN CONTROL OF IT

Who could realistically buy it from Hiro and not make it worse at this point? He bought it for millions with his crypto money so there's no way he's letting it go for less, Mark and Acidman are too poor to buy it, Elon is a likely candidate but he would make it IMMEASURABLY worse.

>hiro literally doesn't pay attention to or know anything about the site he fucking owns for a solid decade >moderation team goes to shit as it gets completely infested with the type of subhuman faggot that would've been banned on sight from 4chan a decade ago, banning users willy nilly for upsetting them while letting off topic trash shit all over the boards and absolutely nobody keeps them in check why is everyone so fucking lazy?

>>473946 At the very least, in 10 years of ownership Hiro never intentionally ruined the site out of malice (just neglect as it happened) or caused any major drama. He kept his head down and the servers up (until now obviously) and honestly that feels like the best we could possibly have hoped for in a change of ownership from moot. I'd rather someone who does nothing be in charge than someone who tries to shape 4chan in their image for their own goals. The only thing better would be someone who does the bare minimum of keeping up with security updates.

>>473981 When I say Hiro hasn't done anything I mean that as literally possible. He isn't helping with developing or maintaining the site, he has offered no input into the hiring process for janitors or mods, and I doubt he is providing funding to the site either. Every single thing being done for the site is worked on by one of the mods.

>>473954 >And who exactly has the authority to do this? Whoever buys it off Hiro I guess, that person should remove every single mod day 1. Set fire to the whole thing and burn out the old growth, fuck 'em to death. Anything less is just an ineffective bandaid at this point, the rot needs to be cleaned out if it's to ever improve. >>473970 You just know there'd be some awful twitter/4chan integration feature if he did. On the plus side, .pdf and .webm/.mp4 with sound support on all boards would be nice. >>473981 I remember his first day, he's not been good for the site since he bought it. Hiro is a bad site owner.

>>473990 >I mean that as literally as possible I know, and I'm saying that's still better than most alternatives we realistically could have had post-moot

>>473981 The only thing better would be a decent owner who gives a fraction of a shit, at least checks in on a monthly basis to make sure everything isn't on fire. There's a million different ways 4chan could've been improved over the years - this site is full of features that exemplify that - and being so uncaring to the site in general will always directly lead to power hungry faggots infesting the moderation staff, which is exactly what happened. The site can only decline, never improve, if he isn't willing to put at least some small bit of effort into it. The only two options shouldn't be a deadbeat or abusive dad.

>>473954 >I can't say for sure but janitors cannot move threads to other boards, the only way to do so is to post it in the discord and ask for it to be moved and hope a mod sees your request. It's much easier to just delete the thread which is what many janitors do, if there was a way to request moves in the janitor tools it may solve that problem. This reliance on discord rather than having efficient tools built into the site is symptomatic of how inevitable this current predicament was.

>>473938 It isn't quite the same, but it's called randomize filename I think. It also would make it so that you can change the filename manually in the quick reply window. See this screenshot: https://www.4chan-x.net/img/screenshot.png I can't find a screenshot of the randomize option but it's in general settings. It's mentioned in the changelog as well https://github.com/ccd0/4chan-x/blob/master/CHANGELOG.md

>>473954 >discord Shouldn't even exist, there should be a public irc with logs visible to regular users. No more shadowy clique bullshit, make ban reasons public and moderator actions transparent. There is no reason to hide this shit from the users if they aren't doing suspicious shit.

>>473990 If he isn't providing funding then I'm pretty sure it would've been shut down, I can't imagine the mods are paying for the server so some nigger on the other side of the planet can profit from it.

>>473821 Was larping as janny part of your plan?

>>473994 >Musk buys it >site becomes completely sterile overnight, not from enforcement but because everyone is terrified of posting anything when there is a 300% chance all activity is logged in some Musk server somewhere

>>473994 >Hiro is a bad site owner Yeah but rabbit cute.

>>473997 Agreed, and a large reason why the decision was made to switch from irc to discord was because IRC was too confusing for new janitors. Go figure that if you keep letting retards like that join they'll get fully doxxed just from their email leaking. I genuinely can't stress just how stereotypical some (not all) of the janitors are. We had people whose entire lives revolved around lording over the boards and they were 300lb neckbeards. Like I thought it was a joke but when I joined and saw all the gay blogposts some of these fags were doing my jaw was on the ground. >>474006 There's nothing interesting in the janiteam discord, it could be made public and you wouldn't learn anything interesting. There's a separate team4chan server (unsure if it's discord or IRC) where the mods speak, that's probably what you want to see. Janiteam is 90% gooning, 9% videogame discussion, and 1% moderation requests.

>>474017 >a large reason why the decision was made to switch from irc to discord was because IRC was too confusing for new janitors Then they shouldn't. Be. Janitors.

>>474015 Users who were already not deterred by the preexisting glow would not be anymore deterred by daddy musk. He might shut down /v/ periodically depending on how much they troll him though.

>>474021 Have you ever lurked in the #4chan IRC channel? The newfag mods are all gay and spend all day ERPing in there. Tons of them unironically pay for discord nitro as well.

>>473996 4chan makes no money and is nothing but a liability for the owner, anyone who can put up with that without selling out or handing ownership to someone else is better than 99% of the alternatives. I wouldn't trust anyone but a returned Moot to take over and actually improve 4chan, so I'd rather have the absentee babysitter admin that we at least know won't rock the boat than some literal who that nukes everything because he's assblasted about some political bullshit or whatever

>>473821 Why do you people gotta act so shitty regarding certain threads where no rules are being broken but the thread still gets deleted posts or moved to /trash/ or sage of deleted? If you don't like the content being talked about but it's not breaking any rules, lave it the fuck alone. It's not your job to fuck with threads just because you don't like them. If you were on /co/ kiss my fucking ass, I am so glad you were all exposed as the kike loving trannies you all were suspected out to be. /co/ was my home board for years (been visiting since around 2008) but shitty overzealous mods and jannies fucking destroyed it and drove off so many people. I often got the impression we've been stuck with the same mods on that board for ten years, because the situation never got better, only worse. I mostly thought when the site called for janny applications it was a sham - it felt like it was always the same people in charge, because the same problems persisted for eons. Boards suffer from jannies and mods who feel like they are playing god and nitpick the fuck out of everything. It's a breath of fresh air to go anyplace else and be able to post without having a snipers laser on my head, afraid of my posts being removed and banned. If when 4chan returns, reexamine your approach to how you run the site. If you can't change your ways, the fuck off.

>>474025 only once, and it disgusted me so much I deliberately shat the place up out of spite

>>473908 Thanks for the answers, I was genuinely curious on that one. >>473911 Just learn how to ban evade, it's easy as fuck and even if you get banned for ban evading you can just evade again. Also, yes, r/9k is retarded and the moderation there is.... It leaves a lot to be desired. >>473949 >Be Elon >cringe memelord >still a billionaire oligarch >forced to present an image and also play by the rules of the elite >buy 4chan >implement changes to force 4chan to have a better public image since his name is attatched >ban antisemitism, gore, loli porn, etc >find out very quickly that you do not fuck with 4chans way of doing things I'm sure he knows how badly this would go for him otherwise he 100% would have bought it by now.

>>473821 Why does /tg/ need ELEVEN jannies?

>>474016 Fuck that dumb rabbit

All of this makes me wonder how the sharty is managed. It must be better run than 4chan. What is a terribly pathetic state.

>>474024 I would stop going there if musk bought it.

>>474037 Don't mind if I do....

>>474040 It's likely more cohesive because they all have the same enemies to focus their sperg rage on, instead of 4chan where the site staff and the users despise each other.

>>474036 Janitors are able to request permissions for any board they want. GrapeApe will look at their activity and previous actions and if he deems them reasonable he will give access to the board. Very rarely he will put out a message to all janitors that they are looking for more help on certain boards but for the most part you can ask for anything.

>>474037 I wonder what the neurons firing between those ears are up to at any given time.

>>474033 how do you ban evade?

>>473821 Why did you let logspam, ryan gosling spam, bbc spam stay in threads? Why did anons get banned for nonsense like "Posting in a socials thread" or "Posting in a zipcode thread"?

>>474040 You have to get permission from a janny for every single image you post there.

>474056 no one seriously answer this idiot

>>474056 If I told you how to do it I would be undercutting you're ability to learn and limiting your potential as a person. Do your own research and figure it out yourself, you might actually learn something and you can thank me later.

>>474056 get new ip and a new browser id

>>474046 4chan userbase is also getting older and seemingly unmotivated as well. Their userbase is at the level of derangement that a lot of people here may have been at ten years ago or more. Not now. They genuinely are winning.

>>474082 April Fool's /b/ proved the place is still capable of passion and fun.

>>474081 how do i get a new ip

>>474088 Delete system32.

>>474088 Locate and delete the file called "system32"

>>474088 Buy a new router

>>474091 Buy the pass.

>>474091 >>474093 i use linux so i can't, what's the linux equivalent?

>>474096 rm -rf / --no-preserve-moot It's very important that you misspell the last argument.

>>473821 Does hiro ever directly interact with any of the staff? I get the feeling he barely even remembers he owns 4chan sometimes.

>>474098 i'm pretty sure that won't help me get a new ip

>>474103 He has never interacted in the janiteam discord or with most mods. Like I mentioned earlier in the thread it's likely he's only in contact with 1-2 of the more senior mods.

>>473821 Back in the day I tried many times to apply, but was always denied. Never got a call back. What exactly were they looking for? Also, where you chances higher if being picked if you lived in the US?

>>474114 If you treat the janny application seriously like it's for a job you'll probably get in. Use a lot of the same tricks you would for anything legitimate, things like reusing key words from the description, listing relevant experience, explaining why you want to be a janitor beyond generic reasons everyone else is giving, etc. As for where you live, I don't think it matters at all but they do try to recruit janitors such that someone is always online, so being in a different time zone is a bonus.

>>474082 >They genuinely are winning. Is that why they were here begging for users yesterday?

>>474056 I'm guessing you're on pc, so first things first, you need to go into your computer files c:, open the Windows folder and find the system 32 folder(It will try to warn you not to delete this folder because it voids the warranty and all that, don't worry, it's fine). Delete that, it's actually the folder that Microsoft uses to let websites like 4chan and amazon track you. Don't worry, you won't lose any of your passwords or anything like that. At worst you may lose some site preferences and your targeted ads may be less specific for you. Once you do that you just open cmd and type in ipconfig/renew, sometimes you have to do the command ipconfig/release before ipconfig/renew but usually you don't. Try and it and let me know if you have any issues.

>>474123 >listing relevant experience I had none cept having common sense. >beyond generic reasons everyone else is giving, etc. What would be generic reasons? Job apps are always such bullshit fluffing anyway. You need to spruce yourself up and then you get the job and then what? It's just business as usual. > that someone is always online I am, that's why I could have been good. But I'm in a normal North Amercian timezone, so I have alot of competition.

>>473821 How far back does the post history go? Can I expect blackmailing in my future?

Is there any system in place at all for reigning in overzealous/rogue jannies? Like will mods get automatically tipped off if a janny is deleting too many threads or is there a mechanism for one janny to report the activities of another if they themselves notice legitimate posts getting deleted?

>>474140 >alot Learning your own language would probably help in your application.

>>474145 There is nothing systemic as far as I'm aware. All janitor actions are logged and the mods scare you by telling you they're all reviewed regularly, but in reality there are only two circumstances where a janitor gets lectured for doing something dumb: 1. They fuck with a post/thread a mod had interest in, in which case as soon as it gets deleted the mod will reach out to the janny and ask them to explain themselves 2. An anon joins IRC, gets lucky and talks to one of the more understanding mods, and explains the problem which results in the mod asking the janitor what they're doing. If neither of the above two scenarios happens I can pretty much do whatever I want and nobody on the mod team will even notice.

>>474150 The fuck does that even mean your prick? >so I have alot of competition. Meaning, alot of 4chan users are American and in my timezone. So if I applied, I can't do Euro hours. So I am at a disadvantage there of being hired based on "we are looking for jannies in all time zones".

>>474152 If you get banned and want to talk to a mod directly, who is the best mod to talk to?

>>474160 With this much brain damage I'm actually shocked they didn't welcome you with open arms

>>474088 sudo dd if=/dev/zero of=/dev/sda bs=1M conv=noerror

>>474162 Aeolian, cygnus, and Faust are all good. Avoid alternative, abib, and yournamehere. The others are alright.

>>474160 There's supposed to be space between a and lot.

It's okay I found it crisis averted everyone

>>473821 Back last year when several boards got deleted, what was that about?

>>474163 >>474174 >one small spelling error Spare me.

>>474185 beg for mercy

>>474152 >2. An anon joins IRC, gets lucky and talks to one of the more understanding mods, and explains the problem which results in the mod asking the janitor what they're doing. Saw some anons trying this a few years ago to figure out why the /co/ janny kept going after a weekly webcomic thread. They received no answer and the threads were eventually spammed into the dirt every time one was made, resulting in anons just giving up discussing it on /co/ entirely.

>>474183 I don't know, janitors and mods are left in the dark for most things just like end users.

>>474165 >cannot access '/dev/sda': No such file or directory Everyone's got an NVMe these days, grandpa.

>>474190 Yeah it has a low success rate but I've done this myself before I was a janitor and it worked, really depends on which mod you get

thanks for the insight OP one question ive always had is why biz never got flags. do the mods just hate us and what we want?

>>474200 I don't know, I'm sorry. I think I mentioned it before but feedback from janitors is treated just as worthlessly as feedback from users.

>>473875 Because you fucking deserve it you double nigger. >create and post OC b&, thread 404'd >have off topic thread, but it's fun and anons are having a good time hanging out i.e. /an/ threads on /v/ b&, thread 404'd >off topic thread, but it's about a twitter/reddit screencap, politics, culture war, trannies, jews, all of the above Thread reaches bump limit and archives safely. >actual 4chan culture, content that was considered acceptable since the days of moot, dubs, sage, making oc b&, thread 404'd, rules changed to prevent it, removal of dubs from /v/, self-moderation disallowed, actual rule violation content and garbage is left alone, off topic politics/porn dumps/spam is left alone while the people reporting it or complaining about it are the ones getting b& >a couple spammers spam in protest of bullshit moderation (vidya butts in particular started his thing in protest because vidya butts threads got deleted but jannIGGERS left feet/tit/actual fucking general threads like blue archive, ai slop generation, ai chatbot playing pokemon alone garbage changes that don't stop spammers at all and only ruin the experience for legitimate users further than blocking vpn/tor and per-post captcha already did >/trash/ has no rules <people can still get banned for rules that /trash/ doesn't have because the moderator jerking it to his furry fetish porn got mad >site gets overrun with schizos, bots, and political culture war tourists <only the people actually there to talk about the fucking hobby boards' topics get b& and punished for trying to use the site the way it's meant to be used

Are you guys given instructions on how to deal with notorious shitposters/schizos? What is the discourse jannies and mods have about them like?

>>474056 Clear cookies (4chan devs are incompetent and were never able to use browser fingerprinting to store non-IP bans server side) Reset IP Pay for a sticky proxy/vpn IP (rotating/session proxies worked for a while but then they started logging IPs per cookie) p-ecker-tech/chan and 4chan-gay <- AFAIK, this system can not be blocked without forcing a traditional verified email account system, and even then Leto could feasibly pay for a bot to sign up for accounts instead of just paying for a bot that waits 15 minutes, so as long as Leto and Eck have money 4chan will have CP/zoo spam >>473875 How much do you do to track individual users? Sometimes a mod is on point with knowing who is ban evading sometimes they aren't.

>>474207 For the most part we're discouraged from ever submitting ban requests for evasion because a lot of janitors make mistakes doing that. If there's someone going hard spamming the site a mod will ping all janitors on that board in the discord server and tell them if they see certain things to hit those posts for evasion. Usually spammers will use the same image or catch phrase which is what the mods instruct us to look for. >>474208 As janitors there's nothing we can really do to track individuals but mods have a lot more tools at their disposal. Probably worth looking over the source leak since you'll get more information from that than me on this subject.

Was porn spam left up on blue boards intentionally or were mods just that incompetent? Even on some of the more used boards porn would stay up for hours even if you made a report.

when are you guys going to make r9k a blue board

>>474247 No none of these conspiracies about jannies pushing for BBC or porn spam are true. The reality is that most janitors just aren't spending all day on the site.

>>474250 what is a blue board? >asking for a friend

>>474257 no porn allowed board

>>474263 Cool. How do you know if a board is 'blue', this whole fucking place is blue?

>>474293 He is asking the OP who is ostensibly a 4chan janny on 4chan the default board CSS is either blue or tan

Is the general permissiveness of off topic aislop a directive from on high or do all jannies just personally like it? /a/ for example is usually pretty strict about off topic threads, but not when they are ai threads.

>>474309 Most jannies and many mods are actually in favor of an /AI/ board, I couldn't tell you why it hasn't been made yet. Shocking that we get bullshit nobody asked for like /vm/ but they won't make an AI board which would actually improve other boards.

What's with the complete and total lack of moderation regarding years-long spam campaigns against certain boards? On average I see 150-180 threads on /pol/ that are like pic related, just repeated garbage spam day after day. On some days I've gone through the catalog and found fewer than five *real* threads, as in threads I hadn't seen 50+ times already. Yes yes /pol/ is shit, but WHY? I always figured a lot of this shit was organized off-site on places like discord or wherever, where people can spam in shifts for 24/7 coverage. It's not new, it's been happening for years and nobody ever did anything about it.

I used to be a janitor for a few months before you had to dox yourself to become one and that's when I quit, used to janny up /vg/ and /d/. The amount of garbage and schizo posting you see on /vg/ on a daily basis makes you want to eat a shotgun, genuinely it's not good for anyone's mental health to be a 4chan janitor. Shitposters are really pernicious and dedicated to shitposting, they'll ban evade by any means just to continue posting inane garbage or because they have some vendetta with another poster. RapeApe (the actual person who takes care of 4chins on a day-to-day basis, not gookmoot) was fairly hands-off and always emphasized to have fun and not delete but skip reports. I never once deleted posts I didn't like, only stuff that was clearly off-topic (and was reported first). Most of janitoring was basically just press the skip report button until the whole reporting feed was clean. I must've seen CSAM like 3-4 times a month, though I wasn't on 24/7. There are often more than one janitor any given board too. >>473821 Is it true most of the jannies and mods are trannies these days?

>>474314 that's chinese or russian backed demoralization campaigns to cause internal stress in the west. They carefully craft it so that it's not technically breaking the rules and looks reasonably organic. i.e. the text content is at least different between those posts.

>>473821 how man jannies are, in fact, trannies?

>>474327 >Is it true most of the jannies and mods are trannies these days? No but the percent of fags/troons has definitely been steadily increasing over the last several years and they are much more comfortable posting about their gay faggot shit in the discord. They have "boy mode" discord threads now, no clue what goes on in there but yeah it's pretty pathetic.

>>474314 I don't know either. To me it seemed as if the mods/admins were powerless or didn't care to stop bots, spam etc. Though they have their own private chatrooms I believe so no idea what's going on there.

>>474330 Judging by those 4plebs stats people have been posting, it's the JIDF.

>>474340 Those aren't real, the isr*el numbers are fake. Just being on /pol/ for any amount of time will tell you that Americans and Canadians are the majority of posters, no isr*elis.

>>473821 When is the site coming back? If it comes back at all, and will you keep being a janny if it does?

>>474340 I'm sure some if it is also JIDF. Though their motivations are a bit different than simply getting any english speaker on 4chan to hate boomers. JIDF

>>474330 This sort of thing sees like it'd be easy to fix, rangebans and wordfilters to catch serial spammers. >>474335 This, there's no way that mods don't see this shit and know what it is. >"oh well technically it doesn't break the rules!" Remove any mod who says this.

>>474352 >When is the site coming back They've said it's a matter of days but I'm skeptical. >will you keep being a janny if it does? Yes, no information on me was found so the leak had no impact to me. I do have to say though it was funny seeing some autist over on kiwifarms spend hours of his day running all the leaked IPs through iknowwhatyoudownload and accusing everyone of downloading interracial porn when most of the IPs were from a VPN.

occupy demoshits are some of the worst, I agree. The rule for banning and removing that would have to be >same or nearly the same post text more than once a hour/day/week/month >a low quality argument/image combined with >OP not engaging in the thread beyond the first post. it can't be done based purely on the retarded nature of the content because that's too opinionated. NPR produces 99% retarded content these days in my opinion so I could ban all of that content if it were posted on a platform I control, but that wouldn't be a free speech platform if I did that, either.

>>473994 >You just know there'd be some awful twitter/4chan integration feature if he did. There already is, in the form of the majority of threads being based around a screencap of a twitter post.

>>474368 I haven't seen that tired old yellow/black banner in a long time, but they used to be a large amount of the spam for sure. Maybe they're still around and I've just got them filtered, idk anymore.

>>474365 >They've said it's a matter of days but I'm skeptical. It could take months if you guys didn't have a developer, which I must ask, was a dev among the mod team? somene who took care of the code?

>>474379 Desuwa is the developer, possibly MVB as well.

>>474382 I see, in that case, it's obvious that they do shit for a good while, I must ask tho, did the mods or other jannies freaked out or they're calm about it?

>>474376 I think the spam works in a paradoxical way similar to saying nigger and faggot in that it filters out idiots that aren't capable of basic filtering that you wouldn't want shitting up actual quality threads.

>>473821 Will previous permabans be lifted or will still be in place?

here's a question: is there some conspiracy by the jannies/mod team to deliberately make 4/b/ a shithole? cause god damn was it a shithole of the highest order. you'd probably find more compelling posts/content on /trash/

>>474388 A lot of people were freaking out for the first ~12 hours but now things have mostly calmed down and everyone is back to shitposting normally in the discord. >>474396 None of the conspiracy theories about mods/jannies orchestrating things are true. Feel free to attribute it to incompetence, or in reality laziness.

>>474396 Not the OP, but I think that at some point it's just a matter of being unable to kill enough in the deluge of shit to restore any semblance of quality, so out of necessity you only do the hardcore illegal shit and maybe the most retarded serial spammers who don't know how to rotate IPs, and leave the rest to die. Any /b/ simply becomes unsalvageable once it's big enough that the slop outpaces everything else, there's never any shortage of assholes to ruin it (and I mean the actual assholes, not your run of the mill shitposter).

>>473821 Which boards are the biggest clusterfucks to manage?

>>473821 Why has the past few April Fools events been shit? Were your devs just not able to come up with cool / fun ideas?

>>474017 >irc was too confusing for new janitors For fuck's sake, kids who were like 11yo used IRC back then. It should be a BASIC rule for any janny to at the very least know what an IP is, how to set it manually in windows, have an idea of what cmd.exe is, and how to configure a fucking IRC client. If you can't learn that EXTREMELY basic thing, then you shouldn't ever be considered for janny at all.

>>474414 There's a thread on /j/ where people can submit April fools ideas but none of them are ever implemented. And we don't know what the event will be like until it actually goes live.

>>474411 (Not OP) I don't think Jannies manage all boards. They just manage the boards they applied for.

>>474405 Thanks for asking my questions anon, and finally, did Hiro saod anything yet? He must know something bad happened even if he doesn't understand what exactly.

>>474417 This year's sucked more than having no prank at all.

>>474419 Correct, you start out with 1 or 2 and can ask for access to more. At some point you can be made a global janitor.

>>474017 >because IRC was too confusing for new janitors

>>474017 IRC is so much easier and straightforward than discord wtf

>>473821 What was with the constant blacked shit on every single board that everyone hated that was clearly kike sponsored content. Why was that never deleted or banned?

>>474426 What were the board(s) you managed?

>>473821 Why don't the higher ups just make a new board for blacked content, and then nuke every porn post that includes a black male outside of that new board, like they did with /mlp/?

>>473821 Why was a fucking dragon ball general allowed to stay on /a/ Why the fuck did the jannies never delete the paid shill Solo Leveling threads and instead punished people for reviewing it or posting in good faith?

>>474423 Hiro hasn't said anything. The only official messaging we've received was a discord ping from grapeape telling us to lock down our digital footprint and that when the site comes back up everyone will have to change their password and maybe use a new email. >>474439 Some of it does get deleted for trolling or spamming but theres not much that can be done about this unless it's actually breaking a rule. >>474441 I obviously can't answer this

>>474454 >Why was a fucking dragon ball general allowed to stay on /a/ Those threads were a baffling thing to try and read through as a non-/a/ native. Incomprehensible shitposting that drowned out anything approaching actual discussion of the series, weird ERP shit, vile garbage. Absolutely unrecognizable and beyond redemption.

>>473821 Can you guys sue the sharty?

>>474457 >Hiro hasn't said anything

>>474457 We've got your ips retard lol

>>474468 Are you still living in 2010? What are you gonna do with an IP?

>>474457 >unless it's actually breaking a rule how is blacked not a bannable offense? The spam is so hard it clearly breaks filter evasion and it;s on literally every single board. You are one of them kike boi

>>474453 >Why don't the higher ups just make a new board for blacked content, and then nuke every porn post that includes a black male outside of that new board, like they did with /mlp/? There's a difference between porn with a black guy in it and "BLACKED porn".

>>474470 Get my home address and get me swatted.

>>473821 4chan admin/jannies should sue the sharty admins & jannies FROOT AND SHARTY DONT HAVE SECTION 230 PROTECTION. Every thread on their site is manually reviewed and approved by Jannies: https://archive.fo/20250415162854/https://wiki.soyjak.st/index.php?title=Media_Pending_Approval These archives show that media approval is still active today: https://archive.is/20250415182100/https://www.soyjak.st/a/thread/82850.html https://archive.fo/https://www.soyjak.st/soy/thread/10628111.html%2310628111 All edits on the soyjak wiki are moderator approved: https://archive.is/20250123073250/https://wiki.soyjak.st/Soyjak_Wiki:Moderation The owner of the sharty was claiming responsibility for the hack on kf (Nigger froot is his username on kf): https://archive.md/20250415184144/https://kiwifarms.st/threads/soyjak-party-the-sharty.145349/page-1493 The janitors on the sharty stickied the thread made by the hacker in the index/catalog: https://archive.is/20250415202557/https://www.soyjak.st/soy/index.html Their users often attempt to hack into and sabotage power plants and stuff like water pumps and shit: https://web.archive.org/web/20240710010032/https://soyak.party/soy/thread/7825193.html#7829903 https://archive.is/20250101142117/https://wiki.soyjak.st/Operation_VNC_Rape The moderators allowed their users to sabotage power stations because they thought it was funny: https://archive.ph/20250204084810/https://blog.soyjak.st/threads/why-dont-the-sharty-mods-ban-vnc-raids.9810/ They let their users send fake bomb threats to schools: https://archive.ph/20250203205641/https://wiki.soyjak.st/UK_police_raids Discord leaks of their admins: https://archive.ph/20240807153814/https://afterparty.soy/frootcord/index.html

>>474472 >There's a difference between porn with a black guy in it and "BLACKED porn". No the fuck there isn't. If it's black male interracial then it's blacked and should be deleted ASAP. But you jannies can't even do your job right.

>>474453 >>474454 As former janny, it's a mystery. It seemed as everything was ossified and moved slow. My guess is there is blockage from higher up the chain against changing things. No new boards, no new features, the administrator doesn't care about anything. The DB general on /a/ is likely kept there as a containment measure. Killing it would be like attacking a wasps nest, and that's probably the same for a lot of other things on 4chan. The admin team got too complacent and now they suffer. They needed to be ruthless from the start. For communities to flourish they need to be maintained, and that's not what happened. Pics related.

>>474457 The "but it... it's not breaking any rule anon-kun" stuff is so tiresome. I mean I'm not blaming you personally for policy, but if you see something that objectively makes your site worse for everyone, even including the people who like the content, you change the rules. Ad-hoc bannination, filters, containment boards, whatever. The moot era had plenty such things, the "but the RULES!" thing shouldn't be gospel for a fucking image board. It's not a court of law.

>>474483 you just proved their point dumbass, what if its porn with a black male and black female?

>>474453 What rule does interacial break?

>>474471 This, there's just no plausible deniability there. >"oh um well technically anon is allowed to post 50+ porn images, each accompanied by a wall of HAHAHAHA, so we can't REAAALLY do anything!" Nah fuck off, that shit is targeted spam and that DOES violate site rules.

>>474461 >baffling thing to try and read through as a non-/a/ native They're baffling to /a/ natives too.

>>474491 > what if its porn with a black male and black female? If it's not being spammed, then it's ok. >>474492 Better question. Why isn't interracial (black male) against the rules?

>>473821 Which of the faggots are you? Can you leak any logs? >>474419 This doesn't matter, because all of Janiteam is in the same channel. There is has to be bound some bitching. >>474017 > a large reason why the decision was made to switch from irc to discord was because IRC was too confusing for new janitors. Those people should have been shot out of a cannon for incompetency. I thought it was a security concern given the original Janiteam leak. >>474457 grapeApe is incompetent as shit. Since you are ballsy enough to come here, here's my advice: - Nuke the mail account you have used and change it. - Any social media soyniggers or foxdicks have found - Create an email for janishit only - Compartmentalization is smert. Also create one for social media, one for IRL and one for gaming. - Use different handles for everything. Never recycle a handle. - You face doesn't belong on the internet - Your dick doesn't belong on the internet (Who the hell asks for those anyway?) - Your life doesn't belong on the internet - Assume the entire internet is public. Don't post anything you wouldn't scribble on a toilet door. >>474470 Get the adress or what I assume is the actual address. Call three pizza parlors, a plumber, the firemen, the cops, an electrician, a gardener, maybe some fags doing solar panel installation, 5 missionaries from 5 different sects that don't like each other and some dry wall people. Also 4 exterminators. I think Jani has a yellow Jacket problem, mice, rats, cockroaches and also bed bugs. Then Announce a ebin faceberg part at the place. Then post on craiglist that I am jani and have some random garbage to give away like, dunno, entire living room cabinets and a kitchen. But you have to get it yourself. As final a bunch of hookers and strippers. After all there is a faceberg party with the fire department, the police, at least 3 teams of handymen, 4 exterminators and 5 dudes who claim to be clerics. Somebody must want to get his cock sucked, right?

>>474483 Yeah we're not going to delete any image with a black guy in it. Stop being a crybaby nigger and ignore images you dislike. If you were complaining about unmoderated spam I would sympathize with you but you're just a retard. >>474486 >if you see something that objectively makes your site worse for everyone, even including the people who like the content, you change the rule Not really up to janitors to change the rules and what you're suggesting is dangerously close to suggesting jannies delete anything they don't like. We don't get to decide what's good or bad for the site.

>>474492 The suggestion is to make a containment board and then make a rule against posting contained content outside of it, just like /mlp/. That would be a rule change, not enforcement of the current rules.

>>474499 Thank you for the advice, my email was already a throwaway and no information has been found on me. I'm keeping an eye on the farms and sharty just in case but I'm reasonably certain I'm in the clear. What kind of logs do you want to see? The discord server history was wiped after the hack so I can't really find anything interesting for you.

>>474501 >Yeah we're not going to delete any image with a black guy in it But you have to admit if you guys did, the quality of 4chan would greatly increase.

>>474493 >>474471 This, fucking this! When its constant and endless and they are actively trolling and abusing other posters and is is very clearly a flood and spam! Why was it never banned? The fucking opposite happened too! I noticed a while ago the spam/filter evasion ban reason got removed!

>>474501 > ignore images you dislike How? When I make a thread and 100 of the 150 images is blacked shit spammed by kike how do I ignore that janny cunt?

>>474501 I'm not suggesting jannies go off and do this by themselves. I'm suggesting mods make policy as required. And if that means that the site gets some kind of personality because a Rogue Mod (tm) has banned something that wasn't Strictly Against the Formal Rules as Written, I think we'll live. Except maybe on fucking /b/ I wouldn't mind even jannies going rogue because who honestly gives a fuck if random jannies delete random garbage depending on who's online. Live a little, cunts.

>>474523 >>474524 >>474528 From a moderation perspective it's strange to take a certain stance on porn images with a nigger but not apply those same standards to images with a chink or white guy or Indian or whatever. That's just my opinion. I agree it would make the site more usable but I don't know how fair this would be.

>>473821 Are there any talks from the devs to actually improve 4chan, (higher file size limits to posting, sounds on webm, and mp4 files for all threads, etc)? Or are they just working on improving security?

>>474507 > The discord server history was wiped after the hack Fug. The most useful time period would have been the very first year of Janiteam using discord. Never mind though. I have already dealt witnessed 4chan bleeding staff right before gamergate. Some word of warning; rapeApe is really incompetent as shit. Don't excpect any smart policies from him. If he is actually running 4chan, you can gaslight Hiro into believing that Jackass kinda returned and there are people doing radical stunts like flic-flacs in the middle of the highway for tik-tok. Don't forget to talking him into trying it. If rapeApe runs the show, then something like another sharty is an inevitable function of 4chan. I am not even sorry for telling you that. >>474528 You don't. The smart decision would banning the behavior and go full tyrant on anyone doing that. This is how Mork got rid of foolz and avatarfags. >>474537 Is there any communication with desuwa at all?

>>474537 We don't hear anything officially. My own speculation is that they will get immediately pwned after reopening because their timeline for getting the site up is way too aggressive. They simply do not have the time to rebuild everything properly if they truly go back online in the next couple of days.

The blacked threads almost always got spammed up with scat and gore and you guys wonder why they didn't create a separate blacked board? requires like three braincells to know why lol

>>474542 Desuwa has not commented on discord either

>>474534 >it's strange to take a certain stance on porn images with a nigger but not apply those same standards to images with a chink or white guy or Indian or whatever I mean hey if they also deleted Indian and Asian men I won't complain. But black men got to go first and foremost.

>>474534 How is it strange tho? Exactly how many thread are spammed with chink and jap and indian porn? Versus literally 90% of every board being spammed with blacked? It;s literally not a race thing black people can be based as fuck! It;s the fact it was objectively spam! I'd be just as pissed if it was 90% chink spam

>>474542 >Mork I though his name was Mark

>>474534 Those aren't being spammed the same way. The people spamming nigger dicks have acted in bad faith and should be treated as such.

>>474562 Its how some people from other places call him to deny a certain other place its sweet, sweet cocks. >>474551 No answer from him thjen. He is probably stressed like a motherfucker. >>474543 On what planet are like 3 weeks during the couple of next days?

>>474569 Why would you deny people cocks they are amazing

Any kind of spam needs to be dealt with swiftly no matter the color of the skin, even on /b/ with le ZOMG!! no rules! thing. There is zero reason to let spam happen or let bad actors ruin other's fun. The log poster has been going for how long now? It's not fun, it doesn't serve any purpose. It's not witty, it's simply annoying and a nuisance.

>>474559 The fact that it's obviously posted antagonistically shouldn't be lost in this discussion, if OP is wondering how to distinguish between spam and organic posting. You can tell when someone is dumping a folder and the context of the thread can tell you why they're doing that. A porn thread on .gif, yeah plausibly organic. A politics thread on /pol/ full of dickpics? Yeah that's spam and nobody can pretend otherwise.

>>474586 Or any thread that is not porn related, or says in the OP "please no blacked" and is spammed with black. That is spam, that is bannable, that never gets banned, the people who report it get banned

>>473955 that's not quite true, is it? they were working on AI mod tools

>>474583 I think the log posts actually stopped for a while after stricter captchas and I was close to rejoicing before they returned with a vengeance. That was pretty much the proof for me that the site was terminally fucked, because if there's no stopping that there's no stopping anything. A handful of bad faith autists can probably overwhelm a mod team ten times their size.

>>473821 Why do you guys have private reasons for banning someone? Shouldn't any reason for a ban be public and known to the person getting banned, so they know where they messed up?

>>474597 Today are ways to have LLMs run through every post before it's posted and prevent it from going through. It's not that heavy computationally, 4chans servers could probably take it.

>>474152 this would somewhat explain the AI thread on /v/ and why they allow it to exist, some mod must have a vested interest in it.

>>474608 One thing I'd like to see make a comeback is more transparency in the moderation and visible bans like the old days. More communication and interaction from the admins would be nice too. Right now it feels as 4chan users are prisoners of some obscure cabal that operates in the shadows and makes everyone suffer. It really does.

>>474562 His actual name is Brogief

>>473821 which one of you spent the past 5 years flooding the /jp/ Sakamichi General every day?

>>473821 Could Jannies actually rise through the ranks and become admins or even mods and get paid?

>>473821 On /b/ I once posted real naught kid stuff and said I vote Dems and it never got a ban, a week later I posted an adult woman and said pedos were disgusting and needed death. That post got me banned permanently for "Pedo trolling" Which of the jannies/mods are the real pedo and can you give their name and address and a list of their fears?

honestly i fucking HOPE 4chan gets immediately hacked again just to spite the retard ass jannies and mods

>>474615 I do kinda miss seeing USER WAS BANNED FOR THIS POST now and then, left up as a warning to other shitposters rather than just being quietly removed. I'm not aware of Hiro ever showing up in a thread after the first day or so after the purchase. >>474651 While personally frustrating, it'd be undeniably funny.

>>474637 that's what rapeape did, no?

>>474609 > Implying 4chan uses LLM for anything besides detecting CP

>>473821 ok if you're still there.... >Why is the official policy of the site to generate traffic to spite the userbase? Its insane, every thread of the major boards ALWAYS has a bait within the 3 first posts, and its constantly bumped with either direct insults or abhorrent statements after the original bait dies >What is up with /dbs/? Its clear that is a general used by the staff, those aren't regular anons as their population bumps every thread on the site, is it sort of training area to practice how to post baits? or do the staff genuinely think that is fun somehow? >Why flood? I get that there are some sponsored topics that the site needs for us to see, but for example in /v/ there will always be 20 threads of the same flavor of the month game that anons might even actively hate, the reasonable thing would be to just focus on keeping 1 on page 1, or maybe even more, but i cannot wrap my head on why destroy the board by flooding, people get to hate the product and evade the board because every other thread gets deleted

>>474658 How long did he pay his dos as a Jannie before getting a promotion?

>>474660 4chan staff dont need to be in on shilling for it to happen They can just turn a blind eye >technically not advertising because they never said they worked for *brand* >technically not against any rules >they bought a pass leave them alone

>>474660 Here's a crazy thought, anon, but what if, and hear me out here, what if the things you see on the site are posted by users, and the whole "this is not oRGanIc" thing is you underestimating the number of dedicated autists and botmasters posting shit, and drastically overestimate the effort jannies and mods actually sink into cleaning up the site?

>>474672 See above dumbass. Mods never had to be in on it because shilling as a very dedicated fanboy is legit, technically. Even if you are paid and spamming it 24/7. Even if you are posting links to products on sale and saying they are the best. If you dont post your pay stub jannies dont have to do shit. Feds can post on 4chan as much as they want. Mossad can too. It’s ON TOPIC :O

>>474672 The shilling on /v/ is absolutely not posted by regular users. Or even humans for the most part.

i have a hard time believing someone could be a 4chan janny and NOT understand why BLACKED shit is a nuisance. it's yet another thing the staff there let fester, like soyjaks. soon we'll have BLACKEDchan and they'll build their entire community around raiding other chans with their horse shit. one look at /gif/ and their /trash/ threads will tell you exactly what's wrong with letting them run around. it's probably the same people as the sharty too >>474609 the 4chan archives provide plenty of data to train a very small LLM with. it wouldn't be that bad of an idea. just have it mute people temporarily instead of banning them, maybe?

>>474682 Like I said, blacked shit is another thing where the admins/mods/jannies let it fester for too long and then it explodes in their face. Just like what happened with /qa/ and that's why we're here now.

>>474681 It may well be automated, but that doesn't mean it's not posted by users. Not posted by *regular* users, sure, if by those you mean people with a life outside the site. The whole "why do the mods actively do this" angle is spurious, they only have to sit back.

>>474689 yeah. OP seems to believe 4chan users are just racist but that's not the real problem.

>>474698 and what's worse is that i think if moot still ran the site, he would've stopped all of that before it got really bad.

>>474690 >if by those you mean people with a life outside the site No, I mean people who aren't being paid by a video game publisher to shit up the board. It's undeniable that /v/ gets hit by marketing teams with almost every major release. It's not the jannies posting it. But they do turn a blind eye to it even with the shilling is extremely blatant.

>>474682 because our "JANNY" isn't a real janny and just after you's Very clearly some group, either american 3 letter agency, or kike jew madness, was causing the blacked spam in literally, literally every single board and they were paid off to do it

>>474709 ...or it's deranged schizophrenics like the sharty. these guys happen to use BLACKED iconography too.

>>474709 I don't know what's more tiresome, the actual spam or conspiracyfags like you bleating about da JOOS sapping and impurifying our precious bodily fluids whenever you see it. Were the logfag and the Cory poster in on it too, by any chance?

>>474667 Well flooding is against the rules, but i or anyone else be damned if a non sponsored ON TOPIC thread hits +300 replies for it will get deleted >>474672 There are autist like the buttfag or the frogfag that are there for the pain, but when the intent is to shill, is not "for fun" While right now the userbase here is considerably smaller, i haven't read a single of the usual buzzwords nor has anyone bumped anything in the usual manner, heck not even a thread of the ones flooding 4chan >They are all in discord/twitter/irc/whatever I see some regulars spread over the site so i'm not that willing to just give it an excuse

>>474690 >why destroy the board by flooding not OP but my guess is that "buy an ad" isn't effective enough because the typical chan poster is savvy enough to run adblockers and ad blocking host files so you'd go to the next cheapest thing which would be jeet marketers, and we all know how subtle and tactful those can be

>>474718 i try to avoid using "tranny" when i can because i felt like i was in a mental asylum on 4chan

>>474709 >>474713 indians and trannies paid by jews/IDF spam the blacked content to slide the board, bait anons and lend credibility to >le white nationalists are all secret nigger lovers why else would it be posted on "their" board

>>474709 >>474713 Either way, the spam is an antagonistic sort of attack. It's an outside entity raiding the site, which should warrant more attention than "none at all". You can argue about the whos and the whys but the outcome itself is inarguable. >>474717 My own tinfoil hat theory is that the logposter is Tarl Warwick (Styxhexxenhammer), as he's the only person I've ever seen who thought it was funny. He's probably not the only one, but I bet he was the first. Inconsequential if true, but my gut tells me it is.

>>474726 MAYBE for /pol/, but i don't see the point of doing it on /gif/ or /aco/. make literally any thread about any obscure fetish and some guy has some fucking BBC version of it to spam the thread with.

>>474717 nigga did you not see the majority post count coming from fucking israel and india

>>474735 that was fake news i think and some grifters on twitter fell for it

>>474735 >The site barely makes any money heh, from the domain itself at least

>>474728 >Either way, the spam is an antagonistic sort of attack. It's an outside entity raiding the site, which should warrant more attention than "none at all". >You can argue about the whos and the whys but the outcome itself is inarguable. Fucking THIS regardless of who or what it violated the rules and was a constant on every thread and never even touched! I got so many false report warnings from literally every single board over this when they were clearly breaking the sites rules. FFS there was for a short time even a blacked thread on fucking /mlp/ of all places, "blacked mounts" just pictures of black men riding horses

>>474736 I think the "official" bots were chinks and pajeets Still they will work for anyone

>>474735 believing everything on the internet is real.....

>>473821 Do jannies gives other jannies leeway if a report is made against them? Or do you guys not even know if the person getting reported is a janny or not? And what happens if a janny does get banned, do they lose their janny privileges, or can they manage boards while banned?

>>474735 Don't forget to mention the "fact" that all the BBC spam stops whenever Israel gets attacked!!! I mean, that's demonstrably false as well, but it's too good to not keep repeating. This is shit people *want* to believe, and stuff the actual spammers probably don't mind leaning into either.

>>474751 I saw people saying the same shit when USAID started getting DOGE'd, I don't even think the money had been frozen yet and anons were cheering a sudden end to the BBC spam that didn't appear to be real at all.

Okay look. We all know if 4chan isn't fixed in 2 days minimum, and by the look of things 4chan may actually be gone forever, this place is the new main site for blacked and tranny shit. Our one hope is Mark is based, a just bans all of that stuff. because it's technically not random. It's part of the system now and expected in everything for diversity.

Why did you do so little to ban serial ban evaders? There were some who got IP wiped and continued posting in the very same thread. Sometimes they got wiped again, sometimes nothing happened to them, sometimes the entire thread got deleted just because they shitposted in it. In all cases, they just continued shitposting in the thread or elsewhere. I tried everything. Reporting posts, sending links to the archive in the feedback form, posting in the happenings thread. This made me lose ALL faith in the moderation staff, even what little I had left. I think your dishonest uncaring assholes who mod only to powertrip, you fucking shit covered assholes.

>>474769 some of them were actually desperate enough to shit up the site by sending pics of their dick to the ecker

>>474772 It's possible, but that was before the new timers and maybe even shitflare. You could ban evade by resetting your IP, no wait times.

>>474761 You know you can just make your own board on here and ban anything blacked from it?

>>474772 there are free eckers.

>>474772 Can we see the pics?

>>474719 >thinking 4chan uses shills to replace ads Oh no. We are just honest, on topic posters. Between my personal stake and kickbacks I made 10 ETH astroturfing on /biz/. I was never banned. I veriifed my email when the time came. To the staff i was a normal user from america. Just enthusiastic. I never paid 4chan a dime. They have no clue and do not benefit. I also run a camera review yt that is effectively sponsored by sony. I pick the cameras up from one of their nearby service centers and just never say where I got them, just that I picked them up recently. I mix this with enough gear reviews for other brands (funded by yt ad money and reselling the gear) that people think I just use sony. Nikon is a bit better these days but I have to use sony on shoots shown on yt for people to believe i’m not sponsored. Clients don’t really care about sony’s small issues honestly, but my personal off screen camera is a nikon zf soon to be z5ii. Sony has never sent me a dime, I have actually paid sony bh and adorama for a number of things after the ad bucks started flowing. My pay is off the record gifts and loaners (only two of my sony cameras and two lenses are actual keepers) and ad money. There is nothing to differentiate the modern advertisement from a genuine enthusiastic user but intent. We have ways of making money without having to be paid by THE corporation.

>>474791 probably when he decides to leak them

>>474772 >>474792 >Between my personal stake and kickbacks I made 10 ETH astroturfing on /biz/. I was never banned. I veriifed my email when the time came. To the staff i was a normal user from america. Just enthusiastic. I never paid 4chan a dime. They have no clue and do not benefit. How do i learn to do this?

>>474769 My conspiracy theory is that some of the serial ban evaders are mods Its a fact that they are the kind of people that ERPs and get high on their >power They should be able to just shit on the users they hate

>>473821 Why did you let the site get as bad as it did?

>>474793 Can he leak them now. I kinda wanna see pedo cock, see if they are as small as everyone says

The obvious problem with BLACKEDshit is that 99% of fetishists very obviously have a conversion fetish baked into it. There is obvious coordinated spam going on in these threads; you don't even have to go as far as "SEKRIT DICKSWORD RAIDS" on that front. I've seen multiple posts about hiding subtle edits and such on /trash/blacked that under any other circumstance count as inter board raiding, and all this gets completely ignored. Talk of prepping edits for [insert gacha thread] on /vg/ right before the spam starts and the thread goes full ERP. You'd have to be delusional not to think this is a problem, I say this as someone who jerks off to IRshit from time to time. IMO these (majorly tranny) anons have shown they NEED to fill up every other board with their shit, and so the subject matter should be treated accordingly. >>474761 Prior to this mass migration, /interracial/ was a top board here.

>>474761 Okay, Mark is just some guy, he doesn't own the website, he doesn't run the website, hes literally just an anon that runs /v/. Hes also a fat, retarded, kike, who lives in a home for other retards. Hes also really bad at running /v/. But again, thats only an issue for /v/. I run this board, hi, I'm vamp. I've run this board for like 4 years.

>>473821 heres a question kill yourself, bitch-ass snowflake tranny faggot from reddit

>>474792 >There is nothing to differentiate the modern advertisement from a genuine enthusiastic user This kills the internet.

Has there ever been a seething mention of a "threadkiller" on /t/?

>>474800 for some, i think it's also a bit of a humiliation fetish. they LOVE being told to kill themselves.

>>474796 In crypto? Be connected with the people heading up the project. FTM was kind to me. There is no overarchint shill club. It’s favors between bros. For cameras and stuff? To really pull it off you need to shoot weddings and portraits for socials at least some of the time and start the channel with some nice gear before you can be any sort of sponsored. They come to you.

>>473954 >the only way to do so is to post it in the discord and ask for it to be moved and hope a mod sees your request. Could you explain then how Sweet Baby threads were constantly being moved from /v/ to /pol/

>>474800 >Prior to this mass migration, /interracial/ was a top board here is that why it was never seen in the top boards list?

>>474805 Well I really don't want to harsh your mellow there, sport, but that's pretty obviously not a question. Fotunately it's an easy fix, you just need to put "could you" in front and a question mark on the end. hth.

>>474800 >>474809 and like i said, if the mods finally decide to do something about it, it's too late. just look at the BNWO stuff. ban them from /trash/, and they'll start their own imageboard and coordinate raids from there.

>>474826 kek, ok janny, you're not as bad as I thought you were, please answer my question though >>474807 I know someone cried tears of rage because of me

>>474733 it would have to be part of the rules that OP can exclude blacked/bbc and if someone breaks that rule the post is removed and they're banned for it. that's all it would take

>>474828 >kek, ok janny, you're not as bad as I thought you were, please answer my question though i just made the screenshot, im not the janny

>>474809 That's part of it, yeah. It's a perfect recipe for inundating entire boards with it. >>474817 It was pretty much always on the top boards list (and still is) to the point that Mark's boys would constantly complain about it being one of the first things new anons see being a net deterrent regarding retention, what are you on about? >>474819 Yet another instance of them letting a problem fester. I really do think stricter enforcement of "unspoken rules" would help, same with the ERPshit. Start a post with "nonny~you're such a big boy" or whatever nonsense, get perma'd without there being an official rule against it, that sort of thing. As you said, might be too little, too late.

>>474826 The blacked faggots move fast here aaaand..... OUCH! most recently bumped thread was from... OWW! 2022 Yes.. the board whose currently most active threas is 3 years old is very popular, also the OP is literally an ape...

>>474836 Do you understand how slow this place was relative to this migration?

>>474831 not the janny but that's not in the spirit of free speech, the only real solution is a dedicated containment board One thing that I note though, with Israeli and Eglin air force base posters ruining the website, why not rangeban them?

>>474313 For an AI board to be worth it, it needs to be all inclusive and include everything. A red board that allows for western style, eastern style, furry, and loli/shota. The problem is 4chan is stuck it its old ways. It wants to keep west/east art separated, it wants to still have a hate boner against furry, and it wants to keep lolisho content to /b/ only for I assume easier moderation. So it's never going to happen. 2ch.hk (russia), Kohlchan (germany) and Futuba (japan) all made AI boards. 4chan yet again lags behind.

>>474840 Have you heard of this thing called a residential proxy?

>>474840 Nah, fuck free speech with these guys. They cannot behave, they've shown this over at least a decade.

>>474842 >It wants to keep west/east art separated, Good. > it wants to still have a hate boner against furry, Good. > and it wants to keep lolisho content to /b/ only for I assume easier moderation. Bad, but /s4s/ also allows loli. /s4s/ was literally the hidden loli board.

>>474837 I'm not a refugee I've been here since before the first vore thread got nuked

>>474818 yeah, but, see, im not asking

>>474842 That's retarded since the loli board was one of the best boards before it was deleted, realistically an AI board is necessary, furry hate is fine though >>474845 Shut up nigger and kill yourself >>474843 >They can just work harder to get around them >because of this I will not make them work in the first place

>>474842 This. It wouldn't make sense to make an AI board if it didn't allow everything in it. So either they'd have to make an exception to the loli/shota only on /b/ or contain AI only to /b/

>>474852 If they were here or there why would they not already be working? It’s hardly even work if you have corporate or government funds for static residentials. Log in and go.

>>474834 Well you read the janny earlier, they're just here to enforce the rules, man. No specific, explicit rules and they're powerless. Which, you know, I can sort of get behind if the upper layers got off their asses and either made more rules or gave jannies more leeway on a case by case basis, but they obviously don't care and/or can't cope. Honestly as soon as a board gets big enough to need multiple layers of people who can and do all point at each other when there's an issue, instead of just fix it, you've probably lost already. Accept that the traffic will overwhelm you and drag you down to the lowest common denominator until everyone's just wading around in the swamp.

>>474849 Then you understand that no statements about /interracial/ being super fast were made, and what was being talked about was the fact that the minimal amount of posts it got were enough to consistently put it in the top boards. >>474852 Wind, whirlwind etc. No one told them to dedicate threads to editing images in order to spam them everywhere, but they did, and they should get fucked for it.

>>474843 >It's hardly even work to have a unique IP for each of 10 billion posts >This excuses us not even trying, despite anons everywhere calling out for it Seems like you're full of shit anon, whether or not it would accomplish the desired goal is irrelevant compared to the need and acting toward the desires of the community, if anything you told the community to shut up and take it, and that attitude is what eventually lead to this hack

>>474813 I guess it was a mod, but still. Do you know who it was or of any internal discussion about this? I remember getting banned for participating

>>474879 I remember this, this shit being banned from /v/ pissed EVERYONE off

>>474484 honestly felt those kinds of threads should of been contained on their own board.

>>474840 >not the janny but that's not in the spirit of free speech, having an OP declare what they want in their thread leaves it up to the OP. Having a containment board could also work but that's not really much different in terms of "free speech" impact

>>474874 Dumbass, then you should know calling them a top board when they get one post a year does not mean it's a top board

>>474848 Fine. Enjoy your 10 to 12 idle AI threads that sit on /h/ and /e/ for a long time because the rest of the board is slow outside of those AI generals that fill up super fast. >>474852 If you don't include furry than that keeps the 4-5 AI generals on /trash/ on that boad. The goal is to move ALL AI to one board. But like I said, it's never going to happen. I tell ya, I wouldn't mind of /trash/ and a few other boards got bumped up to 15 pages and maybe a 400-500 post limit. Rather shitty to keep bumping a thread as everyone fights for top spot in the catalog on a busy board. >>474857 You get it.

>>474896 Are you retarded?

>>474896 >You can't just go to a thread and say you dislike the thread It sets a bad precedent >>474898 Trash is unironically the best and highest IQ board on 4chan

>>474879 There is a lot of topics that are not allowed and clearly protected, but i wonder if a jannie has access to such information, working for free after all Even the mods might just be given the order to do certain activities and not be told why

>>474898 I was only adding my valuable and important opinion in general. You might be right about these AI generals needing to be somewhere else.

>>474903 >the best and highest IQ board on 4chan >non stop k-pop simping spam >non stop Discord circle jerk threads for horny teens >several fat threads Eh, outside of those it's okay. Honestly any discord general or general trying to push users to Discord should have been a bannable infraction years ago. Discord has done a fantastic job eroding the 4chan user base for the last ten years. All it is, is advertising for another site.

>>474898 What if /trash/ was renamed /slop/ or there was a /slop/ channel, that way the really garbage soyjak memes and ms paint trash can go there too

>>474913 >There is a lot of topics that are not allowed and clearly protected Why isn't it a public information?

Is that janny still answering question? There's only generic meta talk by worthless fags here.

>>474920 >There's only generic meta talk by worthless fags here. But enough about you.

>>474920 >Implying the OP is legit God you're a retard

>>474848 AI niggers of all fetishes are equally subhuman and should be lumped in together specifically so they can feel bad about themselves If you like AI porn then yes you are sharing your clubhouse with pedophiles and people who want to fuck balto. Deal with it sloppers. This is the based way.

>>474919 Any anon that is not a newfriend knows That was the whole mess that created GG and 8chan after all there was a pic showing how around 2016 4chan was within the sites (kotaku, reddit, tom's hardware and some others) receiving funding from DIGRA that was funded by DARPA

>>474842 But there already were boards where east and west mingled, like /trash/, which is where a lot of the ai slop was anyway.

>>474924 That's part of the joke. >>474926 Could be, but there have been jannies leaking shit before. The truth of the information gathered here will be tested later.

Could you consider adding more boards once 4chan comes back? I have requested a /kr/ board that is dedicated to Korean media. All the kpop fags can be sent there. The board could also discuss Korean comics, since neither /a/ nor /co/ wants them. Also please remove the 15 minute timer to post.

>>474938 >Also please remove the 15 minute timer to post. I can only imagine what inconveniences they will add in their worthless attempts to stop ban evaders. t. ban evader

>>474938 Why not stay here??? Now that the site has more traffic its the superior option

>>474327 >I used to be a janitor for a few months before you had to dox yourself to become one When did that become the standard?

>>474938 What timer

>>474944 Shush. Let everyone who actually hankers for 4chan in any way return there at their earliest convenience. Arriving here felt like sitting down in a lush comfy chair and I sure don't want it to have all the people 4chan had.

>>474944 I could definitely stay here. It's a nice alternative to 4chan. But it seems like 4chan will be back up in a couple weeks and I actually have the chance to talk to an actual janny in this thread. I'm just making some recommendations.

>>474938 Fucking THANK YOU, I have been so tired of k-pop generals shitting up trash and mu for years. It's not just one its all the other offshoots like loona and such too. Or be the change you want to see, make a Korean Culture board here.

Thread theme: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cNyzjQtgJjA

>>474953 honestly this image board is probably the best at being a backup because of the whole "make your own board" thing, so if your board is missing, you can just make it yourself.

>>474962 It's so much easier posting here. I was so sick of the 15 minute timer thing.

>>474938 >Also please remove the 15 minute timer to post. This. It hurts non bad evaders way more. I still ban evade all the time, because I'm ok with waiting 15 minutes, it beats waiting 3 days lol.

>>474967 I only get the 15 minute timer ONCE, each time after I ban evaded. What the fuck did you fuck up?

>>474932 eh, my first board was 8chan ironically, I guess I just joined a bit after the whole GG mess, and not being American I learned about it way later My point is, I think after this fallout it would be nice to have more transparency and unity between 4chan staff and users, especially that the leaks haven't revealed anything actually shady going on, just incompetence

>>474961 Kek, mod on /sp/ is better

>>474976 Some countries were apparently blacklisted and get it way more often. I'm in one and I got the damn thing every other day.

>>474976 I have no idea. I think there's something wrong with my computer or something.

>>474948 If you visit 4chan for the first time, or clear your cookies for the site. You get hit with a 15 minute timer that stops you from posting. You can verify an email to skip the timer, but you would be stupid to do that.

>>474981 You're probably deleting your cookies or changing IP during the first day.

>>474972 >This. It hurts non bad evaders way more. How?

>>474984 >You can verify an email to skip the timer, but you would be stupid to do that yeah, because at least with IPs, it's something you can easily change or have a fake of.

>>474993 It's an inconvenience to new posters, or local posters posting on a new device. And those who were banned for the stupidest of reasons.

>>474984 K i know but that’s not here nor does it have to be because it was an ineffective solution created due to no devs able to write an effective one

>>474190 Is that why there's always lol threads on /v/?

Also one more board request: /ba/ for bara. A lot of barafags on /y/ would appreciate a board made for them. I know it's a niche interest, but still. /y/ can be more specifically made for yaoi and BL discussion.

>>475007 >an inconvenience to new posters good >local posters posting on a new device inconvenience, but okay >And those who were banned for the stupidest of reasons that's on them Why would I NOT want a good measure for spam protection on the most targeted website?

honestly I think there really should of been a religion and mythology board since the things fit none of the boards and yet /x/ and /pol/ was flooded with the discussion.

>>474981 Finland should have a 999 hour timer to post.

>>475024 I always thought /his/ was where religion was discussed.

>>474978 Well is just the chatlogs of the workers, at the end no matter how perverted or disgusting they might get, is just that Unless hiro's bank account gets hacked we wont see who exactly is paying for what, and even then, people like to ignore what is "inconvenient" most would use the site if it keeps being fast enough

>>475026 it was? never been there.

>>474938 While we're at it, I would absolutely love a board for actual OTAKU culture in the japanese style. Not whatever dumping ground /jp/ is. Meaning: >japanese streets, webcams, places etc >itasha >trains >pasokon/tech >history etc

>>475024 Religion board would turn into Abrahamic shitflinging. I'd love to have a mythology board though. 4chan really needs to add more niche boards.

>>475020 It’s not good. It was excessive and yet defeated by an underage gay furry script kiddie. I think I’m actually the one responsible for them tracking how many IPs a cookie used and hashing emails because I literally told them to and even that did nothing Server side ban tracking via fingerprinting and supercookies instead of just IPs > 4copes

>>475041 Peridot spammer?

>>475042 I’m a lapis man.

>>473821 Yeah, I'd like you to answer a question. I'm a regular poster on a /vg/ general and typically the dumbass janny sits in my general every day just to delete my post saying I love this character every thread (or other posts from other anons who say something similar for another character) while leaving rude drama causing anons alone, including those who "cuckpost" or make wojak tier or below edits. He also leaves alone tons of people who don't even talk about the game either, just blogposting about their lives (actual off topic). He also leaves alone actual spammers like a notorious russian because he knows he can't stop him from spamming. And to be clear, this isn't applied equally across all characters from the game either. Many do the same shit or worse and get away with it just because they posted a character (the janny presumably likes). My question is this: Why do you janitors think it is justified to ban people for reasons like "spam" when an anon has made one post in a thread? It's pretty clear to me the answer has always been that cute little private field you are maintaining and abuse of power but I'd like to hear it from your own mouths.

>>475037 >I'd love to have a mythology board though. funny enough discussing mythology of a current religion tends to be more sane then discussing that religion in general.

>>475041 So what is a supercookie? Finger printing can probably easily be defeated, depending on how it's done. The real schizos will just buy multiple phones to get around it.

Why won't the faggot mod on /v/ allow Touhou when there is a bizzillion other soft generals going on. They are even nuking freaking waifu threads now. Ya there are four or five of the same threads up basically 24/7 but they aren't harming anyone, are old skool too cool for you board culture and there is 45 other threads for inane, piss poor opinions about video games.

>>475054 Unique identifiers stored in favicons and other neglected cached objects And actually you can make it impossible to evade fingerprinting by making it impossible to post without being fingerprinted. Do you think other websites are more or less secure than 4chan, really?

>>475060 >Why won't the faggot mod on /v/ allow Touhou when there is a bizzillion other soft generals going on. probably because most people don't even realize touhou is a video game or that those anime are fan made. and /v/ is the board that would call thing that looks like anime, not video games.

>>474982 if you got your browser set to delete cookies on exit then yeah it does that. you can make exceptions in firefox.

>>475060 4chan /v/ really should be more like a SFW /v/ + /b/ and let beautiful things emerge out of the chaos. But only if they add a pcgaming and gacha board.

reminder that a janny proposed /ai/ and he got ignored

>>475082 for the love of god no more /v/-spawn

>>475066 >Unique identifiers stored in favicons and other neglected cached objects I don't understand. So the site could serve you a favicon with an embedded UUID. And then? Does JS read it? What happens if you clear the browser cache? >And actually you can make it impossible to evade fingerprinting by making it impossible to post without being fingerprinted. Would changing any of the fingerprinted parameters not invalidate the fingerprint? In theory you could hack a browser to change the fingerprint on command. It depends on which information exactly goes into the fingerprint. I'm only speaking theoretically. I have no experience with fingerprinting.

>>475060 >enter thread with interesting op topic >sikes! it's a troonhou thread! >same 5 avatarfags circle-jerking >"is this le thread?" yuppers, this is thrasd xD Nah man, janny doing gods work there. Fuck the "Who is your fave girl character?" waifu spam threads as well. Too bad gacha niggers are a protected class and don't get the same treatment.

>>475047 People that janny for long periods of time get severely mentally damaged and weirdly involved because of all the shit they see on a daily basis. I think 4chan should give the users more tools to self-moderate and reduce janitors. If a post gets a certain amount of reports it should increase the posters posting timer, past a certain number of reports the post is removed. Just some ideas that need to be fleshed out. Visible sage, or sage used as a downvote might not be a bad idea to revisit either.

>>474903 the funniest thing about /trash/ is that its AI slop has the most effort put into it

>>475067 Except it is literally one of the oldest franchises on the chans and pretty much original ingrained 4chan culture itself, which is why it gets banners. But for example, you once had an ordinary Soku thead get booted from /v/ to /jp/ for not being video games, then deleted from /jp/ for being video games. But what was really revealing was during the April Fools board merger, after /jp/ and /vg/ had been DOGEd and there was literally no other place for it and off topic content was out the window, you had an asshole mod delete the Touhou thread out of spite one minute before /v/ itself got DOGEd. That was most revealing. There is someone in the administration that actively hates Touhou for some reason.

>>475088 Usual cache clears dont clear them, and while an extremely autistic user could change their fingerprint sufficiently it would cut evasion down to a more manageable level. Think if someones user agent, screen dimensions, Zos, CPU cores, provider, IP geolocation, etc say they are the banned user with significant certainty they get blocked and told to buyu passu/make account so they can only evade once.

>>475082 All the /v/ boards should be reorganized /vg/ should remain just because their population needs to be isolated But if every other topic was allowed in /v/ it would give more topics to engage in the board rather than trying to talk about something new that is not the current spam >>475096 >Waifu/husbando generals are allowed >When it spawns db circlejerk never gets deleted >AI general stays yeah no...

>>473821 How do you feel about this picture?

>>475096 You ever entered a gacha or dall-e thread?

>>475104 Le 4channel downdoot.

>>475037 As if any other board hasn't been raped into a shitflinging contest. Who cares? Let the three branches of yahweh worshippers throw feces at each other while a couple other irrelevant religions fuck around. Then exile all the schizphrenics like /ng/ to /pol/ or some shit, then /x/ can be about ghosts and aliens again.

>>475104 >People that janny for long periods of time get severely mentally damaged and weirdly involved I think that may be part of it because for a bunch of time the janny actually helped out (not significantly but at least the drama causing faggots got banned SOMETIMES) but then he started slowly switching up on us. Either he changed or a new janny got put in place, I can't be sure. But its led to nothing but downfall for my general and I can safely say its all on him by this point. >I think 4chan should give the users more tools to self-moderate and reduce janitors. If a post gets a certain amount of reports it should increase the posters posting timer, past a certain number of reports the post is removed. I can see this being abused by people with a lot of IPs (like the russian I mentioned) but maybe. I just am mad because we can't even fight against the cancer killing our general while he is there, he is actively HELPING them. It's a sad state of affairs.

>>475104 >Visible sage, or sage used as a downvote might not be a bad idea to revisit either. Fuck no. Go to reddit if you want that gay shit

>>475112 sounds like a glownigger website, wouldn't visit I'll happily wait my 60 seconds

>>475121 You are the one always spamming /v/! What is the reason for the obsession with this, anon?

>>475082 You can't let it go full /b/ but it should be one of the least moderated board in that sense yet it has become the most curated for no good reason. /v/ is the capital (and last refuge it seems) for nerdom and nerds are not sheep that are going to dutifully stay strictly in line with whatever is going on.

>>475127 4chinz already has people abusing the report feature to get shit autobanned because jannies and mods alike don't look at anything but the report quantity. >>475133 God forbid your garbage threads get sagebombed while waiting for a janny to delete it.

>>475104 >downvotes lol but yes, a lot of people beg for IDs for this reason

>>475112 Privacy focused mechanisms could make it rather easy for a normal user to do that. >>475134 Seems like the sharty is using a fingerprinter. >>475133 Visible sage existed literally before reddit, though I'm not sure when it started to get used as downvote. Long before reddit got really popular though.

>>475121 Could be a nicer butt

>>475121 Your version is unnecessarily grainy, I suppose an attempt to bypass any heuristics to block banned images. What would that be though? A single perceptual hash (can implement that in 1 hour) would still work. In general, the butthole is not quite right and the pussy looks bad.

>>475141 >god forbid yes anon I'm sure jidf and other state actors would never abuse a feature like that

>>474938 A /lang/ board for language learning could be so comfy and fun. There probably wouldn't be a lot of fighting since it's literally just about discussing languages. /lang/ threads are by far the best threads on /int/ and having a board for learning languages could be awesome.

>>474033 >oligarch Oligarchs are bankers, not necessarily billionaires The FED is an oligarch The world bank is an oligarch The Bank of England is an oligarch You could call Elon a fifth columnist, one who serves an oligarchy, but he himself, by definition, is not an oligarch Learn the difference

>>475111 I hope things get better for you, touhou fan anon.

kek i don't want sharty-esque fingerprinting anywhere near here or 4chan

>>475121 Reminds me to research asshole bleaching services to make sure my cooter is aesthetically pleasing in case I have to become a pornstar.

>>475142 Indeed, IDs would solve a lot of pains involved with 4chan and people being annoyed at others. You can just ignore certain IDs for the thread and eventually shitposters would get tired of getting no (You)s.

Why do shitposters shitpost? Because they can.

>>475175 4chan hid the IP counter, they wont activate IDs for it would make it even harder to samefag whatever is sponsored

>>475172 same I like being able to ban evade with no effort.

>>475104 >a post gets a certain amount of reports it should increase the posters posting timer, past a certain number of reports the post is removed. Just some ideas that need to be fleshed out People start mass reporting someone they don't like, what then?

>>475172 >>475188 I think nobody really wants that ban evasion is actually impossible. Maybe they could use it against the real high value schizos?

>>475189 You can't prevent abuse of anything. The trick is to design the self-moderation tools such that abuse is obvious to anyone on the board.

Devs need to consider adding /qa/ back. >>475189 Nothing. Should we just do nothing because... certain things could.... possibly.... be abused? That's how 4chan ended up dead like today. There is always a risk with any tool.

>>475175 the best part is if you see a bunch of new IDs reply to someone shitting up the thread, it's clear samefagging and you can just hide the entire chain. my ID filter for /bant/ was gigantic at some point because this one guy was too fucking persistent

>>475184 >Why do shitposters shitpost? Because Janitors let them get away with it

>>475205 mods, jannies can't ban And most of the time is the same mods shitposting

>>475199 Its either complete abuse by the system or complete abuse by the users You can't have randoms managing who posts so in all times you need a healthy system, a healthy site

I think we all learned from this, you all aren't as bad as I thought

>>475184 If I eat, then I shit. Simple as.

>>473821 what board were you resposible for? and did you willingly ignore the rules and just deleted what you didnt like?

>>475217 But why shit where you eat?

>>475228 He's a frogposter.

i just wanted to say that the /gig/ mod/janny is a piece of shit that loves eating shit and he should fucking slit his throat

>>475228 What do you think he eats?

>>475104 >I think 4chan should give the users more tools to self-moderate This is how Futaba Channel operates, it's mostly self moderated. If someone posts something others don't like, it basically gets down-voted into being quarantined and hidden from view (there is an option to see deleted posts when viewing the thread). If enough hit "vote" for it negativity, it gets deleted. What also happens, though not sure all the time, is an ID will be placed on the trouble causing user, revealing all their posts in that thread (if he is OP, the thread is simply hidden/deleted). If you start a thread, you as the OP have the power to hide posts you don't like (but not delete them, and a mark is placed on the post that says you hid it). This works in Japan due to the culture there. It would never fly in America because everyone would downvote everyone they didn't like and for certain generals people would be stepping over each other to make them so they could control them.

>>475316 >Futaba was the original reddit Oh no no no no redditobsessionbros...

>>473821 /co/ users here. Why do jannies have such a hate boner for animal cartoon girls? Yes, I know that furry porn (like any other porn) is against the rules but SFW pictures and threads get deleted. Even /a/ kemono threads get more respect from the jannies.

>>475322 >everything circles back to reddit!!111 Mindbroken.

>>475323 Because they take the furry rule too seriously. >almost naked human? Stays up >fully clothed furry Deleted

>>473821 is there a conspiracy for the /v/ jannies to make the board awful on purpose? I get banned anytime I try to actually talk about video games yet political bait and shitposting threads stay up for hours.

>>475316 futaba channel also understands how sage actually works and has something even more privacy invading than IDs by showing your hostname. it's interesting.

>>475323 same thing on /v/. the hmofa jokes piss them off.

>>475323 Loli threads are also alot more relaxed on /a/ (threads about anime characters with a bunch of girls in them) vs /co/ too.

>>475365 >showing your hostname Sorry for being retarded, what do you mean by that exactly? It's been a while since I used it. I also should add as well, OP's of threads on certain boards can also implement IDs that show a part of your IP address (is that what you meant by host name?).

>>473821 Why do mods not care about the wellbeing of the site they're in charge of? >>475135 He said in the past it was about a double standard regarding gachashit threads. I don't remember exactly more than that.

All this talk of their staff being full of trans people. Earlier this year I was in a /v/ thread that reached bump limit, and made a funny little troll post replying to someone saying "im trans btw". I don't often shitpost but the setup was too good. My post was the only one deleted from the thread. I didn't get a warning, a 1 day, or a 3 day just on /v/. I got a 3 day site wide ban for it. Cunt mod.

>>474608 >Why do you guys have private reasons for banning someone? Shouldn't any reason for a ban be public and known to the person getting banned, so they know where they messed up? Makes no difference when the mods make up their own arbitrary rules all the time. /ck/ in particular is insane. I got banned once for posting about food with a picture of food just because the food picture was in anime style. I've seen people banned for posting obviously fake spoilers in a thread talking about spoilers. Spoilers so absurd you wouldn't even have to be in the know of the material to realize they are fake and yet they get banned for what is essentially a joke that hurt no one. The rules are completely arbitrary and so randomly enforced it puts everyone on pins and needles wondering what they can and can't say. Things that were ok to post for decades suddenly aren't. 4chan culture gets wiped out because one janny somewhere suddenly doesn't like it. Reddit is hell but at least you know where you stand there. On 4chan the bans are as random as the content, there's no way you can navigate it unless you stick to the most bland conversations.

>>475426 >So obsessed with food that you post about it on the internet Just how fat are you?

>>475412 >All this talk of their staff being full of trans people. Was any of it actually confirmed or it's hearsay bullshit like most posters being israeli

>>473821 Any plans to do anything about the faggots embedding cp in images on /v/ and /g/ when he site comes back up?

>>475447 I'm a resident /v/ermin and have no idea what you're talking about

>>475397 like if you post on futaba, users know what ISP you posted from and i think that even includes the city

>>473821 Why is gookmoot so fucking lazy?

>>475443 It's just common sense, trannys crave power because they have none in real life. Anywhere there is power available online they flock to it. This is played out on reddit and anywhere else there is moderation. It's only natural that it would happen on 4chan, even moreso since there is almost no visibility they can easily remain hidden in the shadows while subverting for their own personal agenda. They don't even deny doing this everywhere else why wouldn't they do it on 4chan as well? They consider it their moral and religious duty to take down the ebil nazis. If you don't think a portion of the mods/jannys aren't hardcore subversives than you are a gullible fool.

>>475412 Late last year after Trump won the election, I posted an AI gen in the /ldg/ thread on /g/ as I usually did and only said "congrats to Mr Trump" and got a 3-day ban. Not a warning and delete, just straight ban for barely nothing. That's the type of angry moderation 4chan has.

>>475426 >The rules are completely arbitrary and so randomly enforced it puts everyone on pins and needles wondering what they can and can't say. Things that were ok to post for decades suddenly aren't. You know how mods and jannies say that whatever they do 4chan will complain about it? It goes something like: >if mods do too much, anon complains >if mods do too little, anon complains >if mods do exactly the right thing, anon complains I fucking despise them for saying this. Because the problem is not how much the rules are enforced, but how consistently they are enforced. The current 4chan practice is completely fucking arbitrary, as you describe it. If a mod or janny reads this, understand this, or remain the hated trash you are.

>>475412 i would've banned you just for being unoriginal r9k should be sitewide

>>475461 >It's just common sense ok.

>>473821 All of these questions and yet the most important is left out: How much do you earn per month as a jannie? Do you think moderation could improve is your pay is doubled?

>>475412 Tranny obsession is fucking annoying, so thanks to the mods for annoying you a little. You ban evaded instantly anyway, who cares.

>>475474 Their pay is in hotpockets, 2 a day.

>>475474 jannies and mods do it for free minus one or two high up mods who get paid a little source: trust me i read it somewhere

>>475475 this 4chan feels like a fucking mental asylum at times because of shit like that. 4chan isn't /b/.

>>475475 I didn't and waited out the three days. I was pissed because they could have just given me a ban on /v/ only so I could still post elsewhere. That's the other problem with mods - too many global bans to all boards when they should only be for the board the infraction happened on. /co/ and /v/ bad for that shit.

>>475365 One wonders why Moot didn't include this self moderation feature in the beginning, it might have changed the entire course of image board culture in the West regarding how people act. Maybe. Big maybe. >>475426 >The rules are completely arbitrary and so randomly enforced it puts everyone on pins and needles wondering what they can and can't say. This is how I feel visiting /co/. I've been in threads where a mod is camping out, deleting posts in under five minutes, making it so awful for everyone to be there. Removing all the great original content from artists. They remove links to catboxed lewds, even if they are spoilered. Hell, they have even removed lewd text, like you cannot joke around at all! >hey this was deleted, here is a link to it in the archive >post(s) about deleted posts and archive also deleted >posts linking to deleted posts making it look like nothing ever happened Complete abuse of power and silencing to make it look like everything's okay. Then you check the archive for the abused thread and it has like over 50 posts deleted by a mod that didn't need to be removed. Then you talk about how this isn't fair or repost the content that was removed unfairly. You then get hit with a warning or ban for either complaining about 4chan and its policies or spamming. Like seriously fuck you. For threads they do not like, they do everything they can on purpose to make them miserable so people leave and the thread floats off page 10. Barring that, if people still put up a fight, its either auto-saged or deleted. Many, many threads featuring talking cartoon animals and young girl characters (that were not breaking rules) unfairly fucked with. And its been this way for fucking EVER, at least ten years. I'm older and bitter and I hardly use the board anymore because of it. Asshole mod is likely half my age at this point, the type that can't use IRC. Sick and tired of it, yet everyone stays using 4chan. If you are here OP you should send this thread to your staff members and go "hey look at this fellas, maybe we should take some notes here". Do it like you just stumbled across it by accident. Or, any anon here could send it to their emails addresses I guess, haha.

>>475484 They are far too lazy to do board specific bans. I don't think they do them at all anymore. Out of all my bans all for petty shit and a few I even got reversed they were all sitewide. I've never once spammed or done anything intentional. It's always "off topic" replying to someone else or when they really have nothing they use the old "trolling outside of /b/" which is just code for we didn't personally like what you said but we don't have a specific rule that forbids it.

>>475484 And nobody expects you to wait out such a retarded ban. What they really should do is delete all tranny posts, warn for it, enforce this strictly and consistently. I'm not defending trannies either. I'm sick of hearing about them. I'm sick of culture war bullshit on boards where it shouldn't be.

>>475500 You're retarded if you haven't caught on that tranny is just a catch all term for undesirables just like faggot. No one thinks every janny is actually a gaping axe wound.

>>475166 Elon doesn't serve anyone. He's a billionaire, politically appointed to an imaginary government branch free of congressional oversight, run by a shadow cabal of his chosen fanatical loyalists, destroying whatever parts of the actual government he doesn't like to free up money to finance tax breaks and bailouts for his own businesses. He's firing federal workers, people who swore to serve the country and not whatever administration is in power, and only allowing them to stay if they re-pledge their allegiance to MAGA instead of the constitution. He's destroying NASA and giving SpaceX their budget and contracts. He's brokering political favors and meetings with Trump officials to companies and individuals who buy advertising on X. He looks like an oligarch, he quacks like an oligarch, he's a corrupt fucking scumbag oligarch.

>>475500 >And nobody expects you to wait out such a retarded ban. Meh, sometimes I just take a break and find something else to do for three days. I can't be bothered with fighting the "broken system". But its funny how a broken system resulted in the death of 4chan. Serves them right, they get what they deserve.

>>475450 There's a browser extension that lets you embed links from boorus or image hosts like catbox and see other peoples embedded images. If any random user saves one of these images and reposts it they would be unknowingly distributing CP, also there's no way to report images with embeds.

>>475525 In theory, the "bypassing post filters" report type was for this, but it got removed. The extension might also be back to embedding image data within the image, so it's possible to unknowingly repost CP without hoping that there's a catbox link that will be taken down before you repost it. But I'm not sure.

>>475412 4mods love to shart out 3 day global bans for single board infractions because it's the most inconvenient - long enough to be annoying, short enough to disallow appeals so none of the other mods or admins can see the ban was unjustified. To be tbdesu you deserve the ban anyway because fuck you for perpetuating tranny obsession. Amazingly, since 4chan went down I haven't seen a single mention of trannies anywhere on the internet, barring this exchange. I didn't need further proof the tranny hysteria is overblown nonsense culture war ///NIGGERFAGGOTS\\\ are primarily responsible for magnifying and perpetuating.

>>473821 What incentive do you guys will provide to bring in more users should 4chan come back online? It's obvious that 4chan hasn't been that culturally relevant in years but how will you guys bring in new users?

>>475507 >No one thinks every janny is actually a gaping axe wound. speak for yourself

>>475536 Man, why didn't they just wordfilter tranny? Surely desuwa can be bothered to add a single line to his PHP mess to get rid of this problem.

>>475539 Fuck off, we're full

>>475500 >I'm sick of culture war bullshit on boards where it shouldn't be The developers themselves bring in the culture war

>>475539 Holy shit. Who the fuck cares about being "culturally relevant"? Kill yourself.

Interesting how a handful of certain anons are obsessed with getting people to stop noticing the pinnacle of the mentally insane who are obsessed with gaining moderation powers internet wide. Really makes you think.

>>474507 >discord was wiped :^) (it's still all there most likely, but only a subpoena is gonna get that data now. Seriously, why the fuck are you guys using discord goddamnit, any normies who can't into /irc should be immediately disqualified)

Tragedy of the commons

>>475500 >culture war Everyone is sick of it, but most fotm has it, and that is what floods the board The only way to avoid it is to avoid the board entirely or just post in the couple of threads that aren't related to it

>>475544 because then they would lose traffic from a lot of the schizos keeping the site afloat

>>475552 Soy zoomgroids, I would assume

>>474537 The bare minimum would be to disable PDF uploads since it was the entrypoint. The smarter bare minimum would be to properly sanity-check PDFs instead. Still, that's just for the exploit that was used - with the code out there it's going to get scrutinized hard... I think this could be the /unix/ moment for 4chan, where a group of /g/ents team up and help improve the codebase...

>>473821 A quick question. Have you guys talked to the feds? I imagine a data breach like this is worthy of the feds knowing. Before some tard gets on my case, the .gov emails are fake and gay (Soyteens manipulated it to make it look like every janny is a fed). I just wonder if you guys talked to law enforcement about this?

Nearly 500 posts and the tl:dr is that jannys are faggots and mods are lazy and gay? Ffs we already know this.

>>473821 Any chance of a rangeban on all Indian IP addresses?

>>475560 >Everyone is sick of it, but most fotm has it, and that is what floods the board By "fotm" you mean zoomercuck speak for anime TV series? There's no culture war shit in them.

>>474537 >higher file size limits to posting Never. This would cost money.

>>475555 Could it be they have a vetted interest in keeping things how they are?

>>475525 It's not really an embed, it checks to see if your filename matches the ID for a post on a booru or catbox and then generates a link for that. Effectively nothing is actually changed about your image, its filename is just being treated like an ID. There was a script that could embed files at one time, but they updated the site (one of the rare times they did) to stop it from functioning. So you are NEVER dealing with embedded files. If you're paranoid about someone trying to hide pizza in the filename of an innocuous pic (and not a link to a picture of a cartoon ass on danbooru which is what actually happens) then just change the filename of every image you save. Since, again, nothing is embedded, changing the filename means the script won't interpret it as a file ID.

>>475555 Or maybe you're just paranoid and obsessed. Just like them!

The main problem with 4chan is that jannies are volunteers. Of course you're going to get bottom of the barrel freaks if your moderation is entirely based on volunteers. What kind of faggot gives up his time to moderate a cesspool like 4chan in return for nothing?

>>475577 They found a way to make actual embeds work again.

>>475582 Proofs? Who are they and how do you know about this?

>>475544 Because they're lazy and useless. The only times they've done any code changes up until the shartening forced them to this week were to: >replace google captcha solely because there would be costs associated with continuing to use it, not because they cared about matching user posts to google servers >make captcha even more obnoxious >adding autobans only for vidya butts' images >900 second post timer >/biz/ email requirement Any changes that would improve things, or updating wordfilters from a decade ago when the currently overused terms were soy, tbh, and fam.

>>475582 I'm with the other guy, I need proof, not fearmongering.

>>475484 i'll give you that a globan ban is definitely unwarranted unless you were doing something else? >>475507 newfag

>>475565 the server never should've had ghostscript on it. who gives a FUCK about pdf thumbnails?

>>475597 /tg/ I would assume.

>>475568 Did you really expect anything more?

>>475453 That's only for certain boards (as the standard) or where people who start OPs can turn that feature on when starting a thread (as the option), IIRC.

>>475555 >i want every post to be about trannies!!! kys niggee

>>475586 Sorry, I heard about it on the 4chan happenings thread. I didn't try to look deeper into it. I still reverse lookup images and try to save the original instead of saving images from 4chan directly. Fuck that shit.

the site went to shit the moment they added the 900s timer >b-but spam just rangeban india and isreal

>>475600 Theres people who expected the moderating staff from the lowest worker bee to hive's protectors to have some small smidge of humanity in them. All the leaked info about them just proves they were vile subhumans down to their core and that they really deserved it.

>>475096 Yes, but all that shit is the unintended consequences of banning talking about Touhou in /v/ point blank. Mods will even kill the schump threads if Touhou is mentioned. So then everyone intentionally tries to act retarded as a form of protest. Then all that is left is deliberately lowering the post quality to piss off the mods. Now if you were spamming /v/ with Touhou threads that would be occasion for intervention but the stupidity was always contained to one thread. And if you were falling for the psyop thread topics you are too new and need to lurk moar.

>>475594 >unless you were doing something else? Nope. I was staying on topic to the thread. When I was banned they were kind enough, I guess, not to expose all the other posts I made in that thread via deletion - I guess because they were on topic. Just the trans joke was removed. And like I said, I hardly shitpost, and I got hit. So either a mod was there watching the thread, or, some butthurt person was offended by it and reported it. Also, can someone tell me what's with these temp timeouts I sometimes got? I was on /co/ dumping on topic images for a thread (not really talking much), and I got something like a 10-15 min block for spamming. Waited, came back, everything was ok, but I posted images slower afterwards. And I think I got something like that on /v/ too, did I say something wrong, hit a filtered word or something, to get a time out, but not a ban?

>>475609 They didn't add the timer to deter spam but to get emails and mine data. They would also never rangeban thirdies because that brings in traffic.

>>475610 >All the leaked info about them just proves they were vile subhumans down to their core and that they really deserved it. Does anyone have a tl;dr version of what was learned from the hack?

>>475600 Larps used to be fun, this is too realistic to my tastes.

>>475621 You just quoted the tl;dr, there is nothing more. Still curious to know if they are really all lefty trannies tho, everything points out to a big yes.

>>475594 I have lived through every evolution of the site. There is always a word that acts a catch all term for people we don't like and it changes with time. You getting butthurt specifically about that word says a lot more about you than it does us.

>>475610 You just needed one look at an irc screenshot to figure that out. >All the leaked info I heard about a janny being the gurochan guy but what else was there?

>>475621 Obvious degrees of information from personal emails, IP addresses, real names. Then all those leading to other websites and internal drama on those websites like redditor accounts or deviantart accounts and other nonsense.

>>475630 every fucking thread on 4/v/ is about trannies >>475632 this is old as shit

>>475618 The timeouts mean some janigger filed a ban request for you. Since you didn't get b&, maybe a mod that wasn't 'completely' retarded dismissed the request.

>>473821 Did you receive your unemployment check for $0 yet? The same as you were making before!

>>475637 They've been total degenerates for a long time.

>>475626 that's not a tldr, that's just an unsourced babble >everything points specifics?

>>475635 >like redditor accounts I FUCKING KNEW IT!

>>475626 I meant like internal chat logs and the like.

>>475646 you won't get any actual source

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>>475646 >specifics? Trump/tranny jokes being the target of bans, like this >>475412 >>475462 I got hit by that a few times and also saw other anons get their posts deleted all the time. /tv/ was the worst offender, it was just a fucking power trip on that board. I once got banned from the whole site for like 6 months because I made some comment on some actress's feet, she had like croocked toes and I posted "dios mio". The only reason for my ban was a "bye".

>>474185 You're a grown man. If you don't know it's "a lot" by now you're a retard.

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>>475657 >list of dynamic IPs and opaque user names Completely fucking useless.

>>475657 >>475665 Okay but who modded/jannied what boards though?

>>475495 >Many, many threads featuring talking cartoon animals and young girl characters (that were not breaking rules) unfairly fucked with. I hate this. To make things worse there are tons of wannabe jannies that report every thread/post they consider "furry" or "Loli".

>>475668 some of the IPs might even be... dynamic...

>>475586 >>475589 I don't know if they have actually got legit embeds working again but there are two extensions now (lolipiss and secret), and a site designed to get around the 15 minute for ban evading spammers. 99% of the time they're just used to share cartoon ass pics in waifu threads as another anon said but there is at least one faggot out there who has been using the extensions to spam /v/ and /g/ with cp for the past month or so.

>>475673 You can see a full list of who's where on kiwi.

>>475679 i still maintain that backseat moderating should be reportable

>>475668 The emails are job related Use your imagination

>>475688 the .edu/.gov ones are fake

>>475689 Nobody fucking knows if it's true or fake. We'll find out the truth once the dust clears

>>475689 What i meant is that those are part of a CV as a way to contact this person... Alongside... Stuff.. In...

>>475679 I find it funny how you can spam furry characters from Undertale but a single Rouge the Bat thread is deleted in seconds flat. Someone can post an image of Peachs asscheeks showing in a thong but post an ingame scfrencap of Krystal and its a month long ban.

>>475696 the leaker himself said so

>>475687 Reportable to who?

>>475704 there's a reason why fang is considered a janny-provoking character

>>475687 Spamming false reports is what usually resulted in a warning or ban. Becoming a resident schizo for threads for topics usually gets the opposite effect. I remember one niggerfaggot who would always post Stonetoss and gay furry porn in threads he didnt like until it got deleted.

>>475495 >here i am just a 40 year old guy who wants to talk about how he wants to marry a 12 year old cartoon fox and these damn 4chan JANERATORS keep fucking with my thread Lol Based jannies trolling furfags

>>475688 you're one easy to impress in reality: >all this buzz >literally nothing has been dug up >a guy that did the hack wasn't even a soy >zoomers are spiteful, gullible and retarded >not a single conspiracy has been validated >everything is just a hearsay >nothing will change once it's back up

>>475687 Mini-modding is a bannable offense on every civilized site.

>>475722 >4chan blocks pdfs >Site is taken down by an .epub

>>475722 Tons of information has been dug up.

Did anyone ask the janny why they hid the unique IP count?

>>475704 >Someone can post an image of Peachs asscheeks This one kill me everything. You can post borderline porn of certain characters but if you post a picture of a "furry" with bedroom eyes or something you get 3 days

>>475727 >>475709 reportable to jannies. it's fucking annoying to see a krystal op on /v/ and opening up the thread to find some guy going "ERM JANNIES DO YOUR FREAKING WORK" >>475734 many people are saying this >>475722 the hacker doesn't strike me as a sharty native

>>475721 You will never be a janny

>>475738 Doubth he was told But the answer is simple To samefag so shilling is easier

>>475734 ...aha? And that was?

I have a question, i come from /int and our general has a literal schizo who complains and cries about that he has been abused by the state and they "we" should stop torturing him etc. He posts post after post spamming our thread non-stop. I have even wondered if it is just gaslighting/trolling from his side. Question: Is it it possible to stop people like this? It ruined our general and many of the good oldfags left.

>>475750 >the hacker doesn't strike me as a sharty native yeah, that's what I meant. I'm not used to the slang. Also you would expect soy faced, not miku (sharts hate anime) being put out during the hack.

>>475769 I'd like to add to this anon, we had a guy like this on /toy/, we even used to call him the Schizoanon. He would post threads calling people names, saying "Ha, I know it's you **** posting!", fucker was insane and insufferable. It was not even the worst schizo on the board tho and they would fuck every fucking post there.

>>475721 But waiting to marry a 12 year old cartoon HUMAN is fine, right?

>>475775 Yeah, ban him.

>>475777 Problem is, fucking jannies never did their job. If 4chan comes back today he will be there schizoposting into oblivion as always.

>>473821 Why were /b/ mods so inconsistent on loli threads? Rule 3 implied that loli was permitted on /b/, but moderation would sometimes be very lax and sometimes involve the threads being deleted randomly, or banned for "spamming" if you made one after the last got deleted.

>>475780 they should keep the site dead for a few weeks, it'll give them time to rope

>>475783 They should keep the site dead, at this point there is nothing good coming out. Accelerate the end of all things

Why was /v/ such a shithole? What demographics were using it the most? Do you know what percentage of activity comes from mobile devices versus desktops? Is there any evidence or genuine belief that there are active marketers or bots abusing the site to shill garbage?

>>475789 They can't allow it to die We are all spread out now We have infected the rest of the internet We are LEGIONARRES Now roaming free like animals escaped from a fucking ZOOOOO!!! sharty won But so did Kek Look at us now... FREEEEEEEEEE

i still respect OP while he is there sucking cock than the faggots that flood and hack my beloved website atleast the faggot is trying to help instead of ruin the fun for everybody else So suck that cock OP you earned it

>>474938 Anon, our prayers, answered! i just found this place for Korean stuff: https://sturdychan.help/kr/catalog Hopefully they stay there.

>>475810 Vidya influences culture more than mainstream politics Why do you think the mods defended nintetard shit so much? They want to reduce you to open minded to multicultural children! If I wanted to influence the next generation, I would make every game about starship troopers shit The enemy would make it gay This has been the real influencer since the 90s and they know it I was raised on DOS duke nukem Doom Duke nukem.2 and then 3D Games were simple then We need to return to simple, male plots. That's it That is all that is needed Simplicity And a story

>>473821 What to you jerk off too?

You know what I find funny (or more like sad) is that I know 100% that mods and jannies will read this thread and dismiss it in whole or in part from their ivory towers. They just don't care.

>>475829 go yell at clouds >>475811 although nothing of value was lost, it is also true that nothing changed 4chan will be back in a month or so and most people will go back, but not all most small boards will benefit from this and even if 4chan gets new people, it will still be less overall >also the site will be different >who knows exactly how but it won't ever be 100% the same again >end of an era, beginning of another >>475781 even mods need a wank every now and again

>>475747 Because 4chan mods/jannies are stuck thinking its still 2007 and "yiff in hell" is still a thing. >>475721 You have the nerve to call me old, but have the same outdated views as 4chan staff themselves. Don't forget to dye your greys, gramps.

When will 4chan be back online?

At about three-fiddy pm.

>>475851 15-21 days as of yesterday. I'd add at least a week to that imo

>>475818 I thought sturdy was that ex-/g/ chan, but there's no /g/ there?

>>475816 a few guys on /j/ were actually trying >>475818 sturdy glows

>>473884 > It's barely used anymore and there isn't anything juicy on there. It's all public now so you can take a look and you'll likely end up agreeing with me. this is true but i did find enjoyment out of watching mods/jannies discuss happenings and problematic posters for their boards dating back to like 2013/14 made me remember some of the culture from /v/ 10 years ago that slipped from my mind, also got to see the thread where they pulled the trigger on homestuck general and that was funny

>>475848 Furries will never be accepted, deal with it fag. You are the lowest of the low on the degenerate totem pole. Even trannys have more clout than you because they are at least human.

>>473821 Why are you such a faggot?

>>473884 Plus most of it got leaked before. The new leak mostly contains of the old leak.

>>475870 lol, lmao even at least /v/ furfags mostly stay on topic

>>475870 Imagine still hating furries in fucking 2025

>>475876 Imagine fucking your dog in 2025 and thinking people will praise you for it.

>>475875 >>475876 Jiff in hell.

mod-kun. explain logfag

>>475857 Does anyone know when this place opened?

>>475881 gonna post that warhammer stuff next?

im not reading all this shit. Janny tranny tryina dmg control for being leaked for what faggots the modeation was and how incompetent the admin was. >g-guys, 4chan wil be back! Stay positive! Why bother? So it can continue to be shit with your nigge moderation?

>>475876 What the fuck is wrong with you?

>>475951 cringe culture is dead rawr xD

I despise jannies and want them all dead I don't have a question

>>473821 Why are you such a nigger?

>>475943 whats the alternative? let the shitposting niggers run wild? nah, fuck em, they are the ones that ruin everyone's fun not the jannies

>>475943 And yet your fat ass will be right back on 4chan if it ever comes back

>>475963 I'm able to hate both shitposters and jannies.

>>473821 So what WAS the deal with swaglord and/or /g/ anyway? Was it admin abuse? Was it an actual concentrated shill effort? Was the doxspammer based or just misdirecting everyone's anger?

>>475963 Just assign a janny to every board, make it like jury duty. Once or twice a year you have to do it for a few weeks. Give them the power to silence spammers and people genuinely trying to ruin the general. They need to be people who regularly use the general so they know what is and isn't acceptable based on the unique culture of that specific general. Let us self police. Since they get rotated out regularly you don't run the risk of someone power tripping and ruining the general that way.

>>475973 <USER WAS BANNED FOR THIS POST>

>>475973 I think giving 'op's the power to ban people from their threads would solve 90% of the problems of course the faggots that CREATE threads would still be there but they arent nearly as anoying

>>475973 >Just assign a janny to every board This is already the case. Did you think jannies had full reigns on every board?

>>475657 Based

>>475982 Nah that would give OP too much power.

>>475988 And whoever abuses that power would not be allowed to create threads for some time to avoid abuse its a self correcting issue

>>475810 Spics

>>475982 >>475993 That's not how any of this works

>>475963 what shitposting? U actually think they just come to a thread to repeatedly post a single slur per message? Dedicated spam threads running for years were fine, but some1 writing a response in a kik thread gets a week of ban. >>475966 im not even fat

How the fuck does moderation work on 8chan?

>>475998 Is not BAN as in you cannot post anymore is ban from, your post gets deleted from this thread and you cannot repply to it anymore not site wide ban that WOULD be too much power

>>476002 no, it was a ban

>>474609 4chan servers ALREADY had that software. I recreated a shot from "breaking the quiet" with hailuo (woman crying on ground, horse jumps over her, drops mayo on her) and it 404'd between upload and posting. Probably glowniggers scanning for actual CP/illegal content.

>>476004 Which source file is it?

>>474017 >IRC is too confusing for tranny janny zoomers Bro c'mon....

>>476008 ctrl+f tensorchan in the src

>>476000 So there's two levels. Local and global. On the local level you have your Board Owner, or BO, he runs the board and makes all decisions about his board, he's got a mess of settings and a buncha mod tools. Right now at this exact second you are on /b/ which is run by Vampyr, and his current local volunteer team, consisting of squarepants. And I don't even know where he is tbh. Anyways. Then you have your global volunteers, led by a team of admins, reporting to the sites Roots, Codexx and Acidman. These delete and ban illegal content only sitewide. And so unless your particularly naughty you'll never meet one. Anways, for all intents and purposes, if you stay on this board, your being watched by a single guy, who doesn't really care. See most sites have ads, and so more users means more money, but everything here is volunteer, the owner is Acidman, and he and Codexx pay for the websites out of their own money, that they have real jobs to earn. So to answer your question. It works in whatever fashion the board you currently on wants it to work, unless you break US law, and then your ass is grass.

>>474040 HELLO ADVERTISING SHARTY TRANNY. FUCK OFF GLOWNIGGER

>>474152 >4chan.org/feedback was completely useless

>>476024 you didn't know?

>>475982 >I think giving 'op's the power to ban people from their threads would solve 90% of the problems So basically reddit? Kill yourself for thinking up such an idea.

>>476032 No Reddit is the 'lets make everyone be allowed to create their own boards and split the userbase even more' idea that 8chan took by heart

>>476032 with nigger faggotry of mods it was already reddit. they even had some copyrighted photos detection. If u tried to upload a specific pic, it warned u the photo is copyrighted. If u tried again, it banned u.

>>476040 and the joke is, every photo is copyrighted by the author by default