>>8018 I'm hesitant on the drugs part. I think before we can talk about legalizing drugs we need a way to make sure that commercial drugs are as safe and as non-addictive as possible, and also a way to detect them in the same way you can detect alcohol when people get pulled over. In the states, they did not think through legalizing marijuana and just did it. They don't have a way to test for it on the road, so people are driving impaired and there is no way to actually charge them or even collect accurate statistics because it's very difficult to prove they were actually high at the wheel. The practical aspects of doing these things are often overlooked, and even with the best of intentions can still cause harm.

>>8019 We let them have McDonald's and that's worse than most drugs.

>>8020 Fair point, and we also allowed mega corporations to brainwash them with TV and the state to brainwash them in public school. There are many wrongs, but compounding them further won't accomplish anything good. Approaching new problems properly is a good step towards repairing the rest of the damage.

>>8019 Sounds reasonable, but every time I hear a story that involves a child doing something related to sex or drugs in a dangerous location, my stance on this goes back to the extreme.

For children and teens(I guess some adults have to put up with the following issues, too), having little control over where and when they can have sex, spawns this mentality of opportunism towards sex. It means their mind will always be spending energy on looking for chances, always half-prepared in case something comes up. It makes them permanently horny and unable to focus. Then they get shit from people who don't have to put up with the same hurdles. tl;dr Everybody needs fucking space(space for fucking).

>>8033 I absolutely agree that this is a difficult issue without an easy answer, if it has any good answer at all. I am a believer in impassive and level-headed decision making but I will admit that it is extremely difficult to maintain composure when I am directly confronted by the reality of the problem. I would be lying if I said I knew for certain how to deal with that, or even if my approach is the correct one at all. >>8087 This is a very interesting observation. I think these issues are compounded, and manifest in all aspects of life, as the constant state of surveillance continues to increase. What do you do when even as an adult private conversations could be recorded without your knowledge, when you watch daily as innocent pictures from 30 years ago resurface to destroy somebody's life permanently, and there is a camera taping you around every corner even on your own property. As privacy erodes through technology, social change, and the rapid increase in population what happens to the human mind? Can a person raised in that environment function outside of it in a healthy way?

>>8088 The worst part isn't the loss of privacy, it's the veneer of respectability some people manage to hold on to while everyone loses their privacy. If everyone was equally exposed as they actually are, then the ultimate impact of loss of privacy would be universally lower because of the equal culpability shared by everyone. As it stands now the fags that pretend they're not into anything weird and are totally normal and have no herd-defying opinions or beliefs can use those who already have no privacy or live more openly as a scapegoat to start witch hunts to protect their own dirty secrets.

>>8097 I'm not sure if dystopian is the right word, but it clearly brings out the worst in people. I definitely think it was a mistake putting computers and internet access into the hands of everyone. Using the second most powerful tool ever created by mankind to freely access the first most powerful of we have ever created is clearly a responsibility most people can't handle. Think about how little the average person knows about the technology they are using, and despite this how much they rely on it. Compare this to pre-2007 when most people only really used computers for work purposes. Consider what the change has done to the internet and the culture that was there beforehand. I'm getting sidetracked though. My overall point is that western civilization has been consistently changing for the worse for several decades now, and by most metrics we are now worse off then most other people in history. As we continue to rapidly decay, issues as described above begin to manifest themselves more and more. Children being harmed in large numbers is a sign of a festering illness at the core of society.

>>8088 I don't think the surveillance state is the reason why children can't have sex on their own time. That's more of an issue with lack of communal spaces and unnecessarily long school days.

>>8114 I was trying to expand the topic of discussion to privacy in general, tbh. School is too long, and they are afforded no unsupervised time. It's normal for a child to have their entire day from sun up to sun rise planned out entirely without their input at all.

>>8117 Homeschooling is the only ethical way to educate a child, bringing in tutors if possible and arranging outdoor play activities and such so the kids are still heavily socialized. Letting your kid be the punching bag of the state's baby to wageslave program is absolutely abhorrent.

>>8157 While I heartily agree on the principle of things, two points: few parents have the free time to dedicate to homeschooling in a serious capacity, and some will not have the necessary patience/skills/pedagogy/... What for those children?

>>8158 The problem is having children you can't adequately take care of. I think you're overestimating the value of public school teachers if you worry too much about the lack of teaching skill of the parents, kids are better off just spending their formative years playing in nature than trapped in a marxist indoctrination factory that expressly exists to mass produce wageslaves who are unquestioningly loyal to the state. Plus, the internet, it's both a perfect resource for inquisitive children to learn via and for parents that need to brush up on their own basic education in order to teach it. And if you don't have the patience to help your child succeed in the future, you may be a nigger.

>>8159 >The problem is having children you can't adequately take care of. And if you don't have the patience to help your child succeed in the future, you may be a nigger. Agreed, but considering how frequently this happens in our fucked-up 21st century, it is a point that needs to be addressed. Preferably in a way that doesn't fuck up the kids' future even worse. >kids are better off just spending their formative years playing in nature than trapped in a marxist indoctrination factory that expressly exists to mass produce wageslaves who are unquestioningly loyal to the state While again, I agree the current 'education' system is irrevocably fucked up, you will still require some form of supervision and education, though. You can't just leave kids on their own and hope for the best, this is a recipe for disaster. >Plus, the internet, it's both a perfect resource for inquisitive children to learn via and for parents that need to brush up on their own basic education in order to teach it. Please. The internet as it is today is chock-full of state propaganda, garbage and outright malicious lies. You need a serious dose of common sense if not cynicism to sift through it and squeeze the useful info out of the dross. But if the parents already can't do it, what hope does a child with little life experience have to do it without getting ruined even worse than their parents?

>>8160 Not him, but this seems to come up every time a similar conversation happens. The shitty world we live is so broken, that the sheer number of things that need "fixing" is completely overwhelming, if not outright impossible. Think for a moment how much work and how many other things would also need to fixed or addressed to even attempt anything suggested so far. It's better at this point to simply start from scratch and build something new entirely from the ground up. Nothing we have now works.

>>8160 >You can't just leave kids on their own and hope for the best What do you think the parents' job is

>>8160 >it is a point that needs to be addressed k good luck with that >you will still require some form of supervision and education, though. You can't just leave kids on their own and hope for the best, this is a recipe for disaster. I never said leave them alone, autist. >Please Faggot bitch phrasing. It worked for me.

>>8174 >It worked for me. Oh, wow. it worked for you, so it will work for everyone else. Flawless reasoning! What could possibly go wrong, I wonder?

>>8175 The kid could be a total Redditor faggot like you I guess.

How do you make a place safe for children to have sex in?

>>8413 cast the age of consent abolishment spell draw a circle of protection against grannies

>>8413 Outlet covers?

Little girls should have reliable access to sleeping adult men that they can fondle and learn from.

>>8018 >drugs That can't work with the ways drug usage impacts neurological pathways. The addictive nature of common street drugs combined with the impetuousness and impulsiveness of children would lead to a generation of drugged out children unable to cope with the struggles of society. >sex They already do as a result of age of consent laws. Children can experiment with other children without coercion or manipulation on the adult part thanks to such laws. That said, parents act as an antagonist to such behavior to prevent the normalization of the behavior.

>>8762 They already do and the results are reflected in the monkey branching culture of adult women today.

>>8765 Drug choice, purity, dosage, and administration determine how they impact health. Making them illegal and/or less available only (sometimes) positively affects drug choice, but makes every other factor worse. Children should be encouraged to think hard about what they want from drugs, be provided with pure and reliable sources, and be informed about safe dosages and healthy administration. Children should also be given easier access to sex toys(that aren't made from shitty chinese silicone) and information about masturbation to reduce harm and shame resulting from misinformed sexual practices.

>>8766 >They already do What the fuck are you talking about. Girls today don't even consistently have a human male in the same living space as them.

>>8768 Puritans and antis are actually so crazy they will literally change what they think reality is, sometimes even mid sentence, to fit their ridiculous arguments. They will also frequently completely misunderstand you in order to call you stupid for being off the mark, and drag the conversation into a tail spin of semantics. This is also a hallmark of retardation, so it isn't always an anti/niGGer/puritan. It is just as often someone extremely stupid.

>>8765 Children should only do psychedelics so they don't get addicted to anything.

>>8770 Bruh, just because something doesn't cause physical dependence, doesn't mean it isn't addictive. Fucking gambling is addictive. Anything can be addictive.

>>8768 Private internet access gives these girls an outlet to communicate with older adult men unabated. That's why the groomer meme exists.

>>8771 Have you ever taken psychedelics? In a sufficient dose you will be afraid to take more.

>>8772 Yes, surely if they just didn't have any sex at all all our problems would be solved, right?

>>8774 Not at all, though if you take into account the type of adults who have sex with these girls, they aren't very good role models.

>>8777 I want to have sex with little girls

>>8777 How do you teach budding e thots how to attract men who aren't shitstains then?

>>8779 Maybe make them stick to their own age? Bring back child marriages? >>8778 >Get a loli sex doll or bot >find one of the brothels in europe >research a method to turn back the biological age of organisms and mentally retard them

>>8780 Girls should be married as babies to adult men who can raise them as daughter-wives and help them learn while also being their lover and eventually they will become beautiful homemakers and have more cute babies who will be raised in the same fashion.

>>8781 Based. It should be required to pump out as many cute babies as possible as soon as they are able to btw. We should genetically modify humans to have twins every time minimum.

>>8781 daughter wives makes for interesting porn, but taking in to account multiple stages of the child's development it would run into problems. A first would be the child having a biological inclination to shit test you. Another might be familiarity breeding contempt though having more cute babies might curve that for a bit. Another might be the child needing a connection to bigger network of people, unless you intend to be the her sole means of interaction. If there's a rebellion phase, you might have to rape her, which may damage her and bring down her opinion of you as a fatherly figure and lover.

>>8782 If it were up to me, girls would age slowly, physically peak at 3 and inexplicably have the vaginal stretchiness and carrying capacity to become safely pregnant and deliver lots of cute babies every time.

>>8784 So you want a semi-living sex toy and don't care about the cute brains of older children.

>>8781 Trying to get a blowjob would likely be a bitch when teeth start growing in as the infant will likely be teething, and rupturing the vagina at an early age would likely result in pain that could bring down trust or worst with regard to physical development. Would you have a first mother for this lineage?

>>8785 No I said physically peak at 3, they would mentally develop past 3 but remain in baby-toddler girl bodies. >>8786 I said the baby should have a stretchier vagina here >>8784 If it was more realistic you would have to wait to not hurt her, but you could give her cunny licks and kisses and cockfeed her which would still be based. Cock feeding not necessarily from your tip but maybe a bottle mixed with milk or what have you.

There are a bunch of fucking psychos here all of a sudden wtf

>>8787 Oral sex isn't healthy for babies because eye contact is extremely important for all their social interactions, and you can't do that if your face is buried in her crotch.

>>8789 Not with that attitude, maybe

>>8789 there's also outercourse

>>8781 There two situations I can think of where these reflections would be reasonable. The first would be if you were held at gunpoint to fuel a cuck's fetish of seeing a child getting fucked, and he threatened to kill the child. The second would be in a situation where you could biologically reinstate childhood or infancy in an already mature individual through age regression. The 1st albeit rare is possible if you're dealing with a aggressive coomer of that nature, the second pertains to the existence of a jellyfish which has the ability to regress in age. If it ever becomes technologically possible to regress fully mature adults or accelerate childhood development both physically and mentally, you would have to redefine the rules of such conduct to account for these possibilities.

>>8788 There are two situations I can think of where these reflections would be reasonable. The first would be if you were held at gunpoint to fuel a cuck's fetish of seeing a child getting fucked by an adult, and he threatened to kill the child and/or you. The second would be in a situation where you could biologically reinstate childhood or infancy in an already mature individual through age regression. The 1st albeit rare is possible if you're dealing with a aggressive coomer of that nature, the second pertains to the existence of a jellyfish which has the ability to regress in age. If it ever becomes technologically possible to regress fully mature adults or accelerate childhood development both physically and mentally, you would have to redefine the rules of such conduct to account for these possibilities.

>>8792 >>8794 I slept on this and reread it three times and I still have no fucking idea what it means or why you needed to post it twice.

>>8795 I've noticed there are a few retards that just repeat the same thing over and over again. Chinks do it too when they think they've found a line that works for them.

>>8796 your social credit score go down gwailo

>Agent Small talking about other's people social credit score if your reputation could be scored, it'd go into the negatives not that I agree with that, as a matter of fact, I don't think you should be considered legally human at all, since you're factually inhuman

>>8799 >>8798 Get a room you two Also kill yourselves

>>8800 I didn't ask the spic to come be a spic here, he can go be a spic somewhere else, I was posting on topic. Also, cope, manlet.

>>8795 The 1st one was a mistake that wasn't deleted. The second was just revisions for the sake of grammar and spelling. The point is there exist circumstances in which it would not be detrimental or unethical to have sexual relations with a child.

>>8802 >There exist circumstances in which it would not be.. that is the default, though. It's the rule, not the exception, that sex with children is good

>>8804 basederino

i hate you people so much

>>8806 cope

>>8768 >Wahhhh I want to campaign for Democrats so I'm going to pretend I care about them even tho they can and do fuck each other all the time !!! Kids screwing kids is way more moral that some dumbfuck pedo getting off >t. Had a very sexual childhood

>>10317 >posting on /leftypol/ is perfectly ok as long it's not pedos doing it

>>10323 If leftyfags wanna cry about based pedos they should fuck off to another wing. Alex Jones said the left was all about pedophilia but he said it like it was a bad thing (unbased). He didn't say it was bad because he wanted some ch!ldren for himself either, which would at least be an understandable viewpoint. If the left is pro pedo let's go there and take over it!

>>10328 Alex Jones has good points about some things regarding this, the problem is he is a boomer and views pedophilia as identical to the child killing and hurtcore kikery of the 'elite' (larping legacy faggots that are mostly genetically dysfunctional kikes.) In reality the psycho child murderers and rapists have nothing in common with pedophiles, sex and rape are two different things entirely, but the antis have done much to conflate all sex as rape or as harmful as rape - which is simply not true and has been proven in studies such as Rind to not be true. In reality neither the right nor the left are really all that pedophilia inclined, the far right are usually puritan philosemites and the left wing are usually deviant philosemites. But philosemitism is child abuse, not child love.

>>10329 I'm not trying to horseshoe theory, same thing both sides, I'm le centrist man here btw I don't feel represented on most issues by established political actors in general.

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>>10331 nope

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