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/liberty/ media Anonymous 03/11/2020 (Wed) 12:54:55 Id: 23ee38 No. 2069 [Reply] [Last]

As I don´t see any thread like this. I would like to started this so we can share entertainment products that we think has libertarian messages.
The example that comes up to my mind right now is the original Deus Ex
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>>4506 The Borg is a good example of what the S0S seeks.
>>4503 There are no natural slavers anon, I don't know of a group of people that hasn't engaged in slavery in history. That being said jewish thought still influenced libertarianism a lot, so to completely dismiss them is unfair in my opinion. Don't get me wrong there is a SHIT TON of things that Jews need to be criticised for. But their contributions aren't black and white.
The US is a police state now. Americans should be out in the streets with pitchforks and torches, but instead they would rather shut up, cover their ears, and put their heads in the sand. Weird.

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ANCAPISTAN BECOMING A REALITY 02/06/2021 (Sat) 00:53:13 Id: edf08c No. 4323 [Reply]
>Planned legislation to establish new business areas in Nevada would allow technology companies to effectively form separate local governments. >Democratic Gov. Steve Sisolak announced a plan to launch so-called Innovation Zones in Nevada to jumpstart the state’s economy by attracting technology firms, Las Vegas Review-Journal reported Wednesday. >The zones would permit companies with large areas of land to form governments carrying the same authority as counties, including the ability to impose taxes, form school districts and courts and provide government services. >The measure to further economic development with the “alternative form of local government” has not yet been introduced in the Legislature. https://www.usnews.com/news/best-states/nevada/articles/2021-02-04/nevada-bill-would-allow-tech-companies-to-create-governments
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>>4354 Most corporate cities would be a nightmare for libertarians. The point is that you can have hundreds of them and maybe one of them suits you, or maybe private citizens can form their own. Of course, it's only a matter of time before the busybodies show up and demand more regulations. HoAs have shown that tyranny can absolutely come from the bottom up.
>>4354 >>4359 Reminder too that Orania started out as a corporate labor camp basically https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qVEcvdclrqo
Does anyone get the feeling that if the elites decreed that everyone must have their thumbs amputated, Americans would agree that the law makes sense and must be obeyed?

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3D PRINTED GUNS ARE FINALLY A REALITY Anonymous 12/03/2020 (Thu) 13:30:30 Id: a13bee No. 4120 [Reply]
There is a criminal organization in Brazil using NSO Group's Pegasus to infect devices for hack for hire, to incite terrorism, blackmail people, produce illegal pornography and assist in assassinations. They also have other advanced malware, like UEFI implants and even persistent implants for Kindle and Raspberry Pi. Plus face/voice recognition on every camera and microphone they can get into, in public or private places. Brazil won't do anything to stop them. Only the FBI, CIA and NSA can stop them. There is also the possibility that they were engaged on the hack of Bezos' smartphone. If you know of any security researcher who wants to reverse engineer the exploits they are using, I am more than willing to help them. If you want a story about how they operate, I am willing to work with you to expose them.
There is no sanity in the USA anymore. How can you deal with Americans when they look you in the eye and say that the US had TSA groping in 1776?

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Debate Thread Anonymous 10/23/2020 (Fri) 00:09:54 Id: effad0 No. 3913 [Reply]
Figured you guys would want a thread going over the coming shitshow https://cytu.be/r/cornpop
Trump had some good lines but he could've done much better. Biden did a lot of own goals.
Does it even matter at this point? Biden is a literal puppet who's main goal is to say as little as possible as to not upset the target demographic of his party (leftists and neo-liberals). Trump is all talk no action. Almost all the things he promised never went through, like the wall(tm). In some ways, he's made things worse, such as banning bump stocks and implementing red flag laws! I will admit, he is obviously much better than Biden, but being better than Biden isn't really a big accomplishment. Either way, we're fucked.
If liberty will continue to exist, it's up to us to spread freedom. Patriots must be absolutely obsessive about telling people about freedom now. The globalists want to kill you.

Anonymous 08/10/2021 (Tue) 03:31:22 Id: 6220dd No. 4534 [Reply]
can somebody link the Lew Rockwell article on the movie mighty ducks? It makes left-libertarian seethe so much I want to read it
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Anyway there are better articles to make leftards seeth. >Why Transgenderism is Immoral https://www.lewrockwell.com/2021/03/vasko-kohlmayer/why-transgenderism-is-immoral/ >Rather than living a life of fulfilment and happiness, the vast majority of those who adopt this lifestyle face a lifetime of suffering and desolation that usually culminates in a premature death. >The dictionary defines the adjective moral as “concerned with the principles of right and wrong behavior.” >By this definition transgenderism is immoral, since it entails behavior that is obviously wrong. The transgender behavior is wrong, because of its ruinous and destructive effect on those who embrace it. >As a result, the lives of most of its practitioners are characterized by pain and anguish. The reality of transgender existence is harsh by any measure. The rates of chronic illness, sexually transmitted disease, homelessness, alcoholism, drug abuse and unemployment are many times over those of the regular population. The cumulative effect of these ills is so bitter and distressing that the attempted suicide rate among transgender individuals is nearly twenty times the national average. >What Joe Biden and the Democrats have done testifies of the deep moral corruption of the contemporary left. As far as we know, no culture has ever allowed such a thing to take place in its midst. And neither should we. >If we want to survive as a functional society, we must call this lifestyle for what it truly is: as something that is quintessentially wrong and immoral.
>>4535 Beautiful, thank you. How does one find these old articles in print?
If protesting must be outlawed to prevent broken windows, why not ban airplanes to prevent airplane crashes or ban knives to stop stabbings? If Americans don't defend free speech, religious freedom, gun rights, freedom from unconstitutional searches and seizures, the right to silence, and the freedom from torture and extrajudicial assassination, what part of the Bill of Rights do they support? What country is this?

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Anonymous 03/23/2020 (Mon) 03:11:47 Id: e04d13 No. 2201 [Reply] [Last]

Ok, I've been silent about this for a while but my curiosity can handle it no more. Is the whole liberty x monarchy thing just a meme? I don't see how an ancap could ever prefer a monarchy (or even worse, an autocracy) over a democracy. Well don't get me wrong, I don't like democracies either, but how are monarchies or autocracies any better?
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Global warming and this virus can do anything the elites want.
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>>2396 Nietzsche doesn't shit on empathy, he despises pity as an emotion indeed, but I am hardpressed to find any proof of Nietzsche being a social darwinist. He does not shit on the idea of "Might makes right", but his idea of power is power in the psychological sense. He talks about ascetics as an example for fuck's sake. Nietzsche uses power as an idea of control over yourself and psychologichal prowess. Pity is bad because it breeds misery and stops people from taking a healthy approach to life. If you want to help someone, slap him and bring him back to reality instead of indulging in delusions. Nietzsche was first and foremost a philosopher of pro-reality. He wanted you to admit to yourself that you will suffer through life, but that this suffering is worthwile and that you should do it for a greater goal, for your own, personal belief, for the value you create yourself. Last man-Ubermensch is a different dictochomy from Slave morality-Master Morality. Ubermensch goes against morality, he creates his own morality. He is neither a slave nor a master, he is who he truly is. A perfect philosopher, one that creates meaning from suffering. A psychologically perfect human, who has dealt with all of his problems and has understanding over himself. An existence that is impossible in the world, but that can serve as an ideal towards which humanity should move forwards. A true ubermensch might act in a way that we consider to be "moral" or "immoral" or that would show "slave" or "master" morality, but he is above that. He follows his own beliefs, and his moral actions have reasons in what he believes. Opposed to the last man, a man living opposite to reality, in conflict with it, a man who hides from suffering of the world and does not live. A man who cares only for comfort. Anime unironically has a great understanding of what an ubermensch is suppossed to be, pics related
Do Americans who think that they can survive tyranny by joining the Gestapo realize that they have to live with their consciences? Do Americans who think that they can survive tyranny by remaining silent and obedient realize that this plan failed for millions of people who were killed in Nazi Germany, the USSR, China, and Cambodia? Do Americans who think that they can survive tyranny by being rich, famous, attractive, educated, or having influence realize that this plan failed to protect people in history? Do Americans who think that they can survive tyranny by being white realize that whatever they allow the government to do to others will eventually be done to them?

Banks Anonymous 10/05/2020 (Mon) 04:30:45 Id: 3d86f4 No. 3829 [Reply]
Is it time to obsolete them? In the modern day we have so many financial institutions that can serve the purposes they serve better that they no longer seem necessary. They do not store wealth in hard assets anymore, they are not better than private finance at finding opportunity, they do not provide any insurance due to fractional reserve lending, they do not even issue government fiat anymore because the central banks are directly buying assets. The only purpose left is retail banking, which is just glorified accounting, and has been made obsolete with the innovation of the blockchain. Are they simply just slow and expensive middlemen?
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>>3839 Was this meant to contradict anything I said?
>>3842 No, just an elaboration of why they do what they do. It isn't about economics or capitalism but control.
Americans insist that they live in a free country and just shrug when they are given overwhelming proof that the US is a police state.

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hk protests and their struggle against commie china Anonymous 06/19/2020 (Fri) 16:53:42 Id: 386d74 No. 3126 [Reply]
Let's cheer them on and post updates on their situation.
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>SECESSION IS NOW PUNISHABLE BY LIFE IN PRISON Where are your freedoms, libertarians? Where are your freedoms now?
>>3129 Dude if they CIA was supposedly backing them then they're doing a piss poor job at it.
Americans say that they will just ignore the US collapse, but what will you do when the Gestapo knock down your door to give you an anal swab virus test, mandatory vaccine, and confiscate your guns? What will you do when inflation is 1 million percent and the US defaults on the debt, Civil War 2.0 starts, and looters stab people with butter knives over a can of corn? What will you do when the US starts WWIII with Iran, North Korea, China, and Russia and the nuclear bombs explode around you? This is real. Wake up.

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Anonymous 07/21/2021 (Wed) 19:38:30 Id: 000000 No. 4524 [Reply]
How does /liberty/ go about making money?
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>>4524 I help people abuse the state's power to get them a monopoly on inventions. >>4584 You ever get people contacting you wanting to talk or creep on you or something? I've written a single porn story just for myself (it started as a real novella but that was too hard to write so I made it way shorter and added sex) and was thinking about publishing it.
>>4593 No, my clients were pretty chill to leave me alone.
You know the US is doomed when Americans would rather attack those who defend freedom instead of criticizing the government that is enslaving them.

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Random/Shitpost Thread Anonymous 01/23/2020 (Thu) 18:17:39 Id: 481c8d No. 1601 [Reply] [Last]

Listen up kiddo. We need to have a little chat. You thought you could lurk around here just because you're a cool guy and we share the same worldviews? You thought /liberty/ was open and free for everyone? That's not how it works, pal. This isn't some hippie-dippie commie shithole. Nothing in life is free besides the cheese in a mousetrap. You gotta leave a post in this thread every time you visit the board if you wanna keep the lights on over here. Yes, I know, I know, but someone had to say it. You know how the economy is these days, it's tough for everyone. Don't make it more difficult for the rest of us, we all have to carry our own weight. We all have to do our part to keep the place running. There's no room for freeloaders around here. Leave something in this thread each time you visit the board and we can keep on being friends.
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One way Americans are dealing with the US collapse is by being in a state of denial. Americans say that the USA doesn't have inflation, suicides, alcoholism, drugs, homelessness, illegal immigrants, immorality, Obamacare, wars, debt, church closures, martial law, lockdowns, business shutdowns, nationalized companies, cancelled elections, closed borders, arrests of reporters, lawyers, priests, mandatory fingerprint collection, DUI laws, checkpoints, seatbelt laws, car liability insurance laws, neighborhood watch groups, "get tough on crime" politicians, laws allowing mandatory minimums, IMBRA, 3 strikes laws, curfews, police militarization, teen boot camps, school metal detectors, private prisons, chain gangs, nanny state laws, the Patriot Act, NSA wiretapping, no knock raids, take down notices, no fly lists, terror watch lists, Constitution free zones, stop and frisk, kill switches, National Security Letters, DNA databases, kill lists, FBAR, FATCA, Operation Chokepoint, TSA groping, civil forfeiture, CIA torture, NDAA indefinite detention, secret FISA courts, FEMA camps, laws requiring passports for domestic travel, IRS laws denying passports for tax debts, gun and ammo stockpiles, laws outlawing protesting, Jade Helm, sneak and peek warrants, policing for profit, no refusal blood checkpoints, license plate readers, redlight cameras, speed cameras, FBI facial and voice recognition, tattoo databases, gun bans, the end to the right to silence, free speech bans, searches without warrants, CISPA, SOPA, private prison quotas, supermax prisons, FOSTA, sex offender registration laws, and sex offender restriction laws. Americans scream everything is fine, but their eyes twitch and their hands shake. Disgusting.
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my friend shared a touhou ancap meme and I asked where he got it, he said it was from /liberty/ I go to /liberty/ and the first thread is a post about Hoppe, and it's pinned, I knew at that point I had found the real deal, but this board is probably a fed honeypot
Making plans is difficult when you live in a police state. Everything is illegal. You are not allowed to go outside. You don't know if you can buy a house because you don't know if the government will close your business. You are not allowed to travel or escape. The state can indefinitely detain you without trial, grope you, kill you, torture you, or destroy or steal your property at any time. You are not allowed to have free speech, the government wiretaps you, you cannot go to church, and you cannot own a gun. Americans are now just slaves like North Koreans are.

Anonymous 11/25/2020 (Wed) 21:17:15 Id: da79eb No. 4104 [Reply]
If a Biden AR-15 ban (or any gun ban for that manner) does pass through, would you comply?
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>>4104 I wouldn't need to. I would bet you anything that if such a ban was actually enacted instead of just talked about, nearly every Republican county or city would declare itself a sanctuary from said laws.
>>4111 Repubs could lose the Senate in the GA runoffs, particularly if the election fraud shit ends up getting thrown out.
The point of closing businesses and churches and constantly changing rules doesn't make any sense, but the purpose is to weaken, discourage, and bankrupt the 99%.

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Anonymous 08/16/2021 (Mon) 09:27:17 Id: 59bfd5 No. 4555 [Reply]
you know, despite all the talking about believing in hierarchies, non-libertarian right-wingers (especially the reactionaries) sure do care a lot about what the supposedly "inferior" people do. I mean, why the fuck should I care if some people are degenerates? Why the shit should I spend any resource in trying to fix them or even persecute them? In my opinion this show they have a much more egalitarian view of the world. Honestly, I don't care. A person can be a degenerate forever or only in a certain moment or place of their life, but who cares? The problems with current society are that the elites are degenerate and that they force degeneracy in everybody lives. There is no way to avoid it, being secure and discriminate against. This is done not only through laws but also through taxes and inflation since it deprives people of the resources to segregate from the undesirable. But the right-wingers are egalitarian. They talk about hierarchies, and yet they cannot see themselves separating in a distinct class. They imagine living among the inferiors even in their ideal society, and therefore feel the need to fix everybody lives. Pathetic.
It's not so much about egalitarianismm, although you can argue that both libertarians and non-libertarians show egalitarian tendencies. Libertarians generally believe that all indiviudals have the same freedoms, while socialists and other form of collectivist scum think that all people as a group, or members of a certain group, should all be equal in everything else. Libertarians don't think of people as groups in general. How many times have you seen things like race, nationality or class discussed in libertarian circles? Not a lot, because they are not important to a libertarian. They are decsription of groups, not individuals, so a libertarian, who analyses societies by putting value of an individual, simply doesn't fucking care about groups.
Resistance becomes a duty when you live in a police state. Why is Assange in jail, but Clinton isn't? Why did Snowden throw away his life to warn Americans about the dangers of tyranny? How can officials and the Gestapo take an oath to defend the Constitution and then violate it everyday? Is a paycheck more important than freedom?

The most Austrolibertarian question you could possibly ask. Anonymous 02/01/2021 (Mon) 12:37:14 Id: 000000 No. 4300 [Reply]
Are naked shorts equivalent to fractional reserve banking? Are they both fundamentally fraud? Also, I recall reading a description of some country that had a 100% reserve system because any banks that were suspected of being fractional reserve would get "stress-tested" by the other banks. Anyone know what I'm talking about?
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>>4305 A "bounced check" is by definition "after the settlement window". >>4306 How is stealing a couch analogous to this situation? To steal a couch, you would have to break into someone's property and then seize something that they already owned. It'd be more like if I paid you to deliver me a couch and you promised to deliver it after I come back home from work. Is it fraud because I didn't get the couch exactly when I paid?
>>4308 ...I hope I never do business with you. Holy shit.
Your taxes pay for illegal immigrants, debt, war, curfews, gun bans, NSA wiretapping, checkpoints, forfeiture, the end to the right to silence, free speech bans, torture, kill lists, no fly lists, searches without warrants, private prisons, mandatory minimums, 3 strikes laws, DNA databases, CISPA, SOPA, NDAA, IMBRA, FBAR, FATCA, TSA groping, secret FISA courts, and Jade Helm.

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America’s Five Freest States Anonymous 11/06/2021 (Sat) 22:48:37 Id: f5772f No. 4697 [Reply]
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Florida and New Hampshire are your best bets. If you like hot tropical paradises then move to Florida, if you like freezing cold winters then move to New Hampshire. Pick your poison. Florida's politicians like DeSantis are very good public speakers that love to rustle the jimmies of the media, but do not be fooled, these are still republicans we're talking about, infamous for mostly spewing hot air and never actually doing anything. While I appreciate the thought in outlawing mask mandates for private businesses, and while I hate mask mandates, telling private businesses that they are legally not allowed to require a mask to give service isn't really libertarian, it's a violation of property rights. New Hampshire has historically been very pro-liberty, with their state motto being "live free or die". It has the ever-growing free state project, which could become a force to be wrecked with if more libertarians move there, it's also the whitest state in the union (go figure). Even if they can't take over NH's local politics, I'd still prefer to be surrounded by libertarians in the case that society collapses or something. Definitely a good place to consider if you don't care about city amenities, cause NH is mostly rural and there isn't much to do, besides camping and hiking. Boston is a pretty close drive, though, so you can at least go there if you're after night-life or something. Arizona and Nevada I considered to be the most libertarian in terms of laws. Arizona has gun rights in their constitution and legal weed. Nevada has both legal guns, legal weed, but it also has legal gambling state wide, and is the only place in America with legal prostitution too, it truly feels like the last "live and let live" place on Earth. The problem with both of these states is that they've recently flipped blue and thousands of Californians are moving to these, so they may not look like this in 10 years. Perhaps if more liberty minded people moved to these states, it would be possible to take them back before it's too late.
Maybe the debt will be paid off by illegal immigrants, technology, a zero percent tax rate, or magic fairy dust, but the reality is that the US debt is increasing constantly, no one cares, and spending more money to reduce the debt will only lead to disaster. Debt didn’t work out too well for Rome, Germany, Japan, Greece, or Zimbabwe. Those who fail to learn from history are doomed to repeat it.

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Grain Elevator Operators Need to Go to Prison Anonymous 09/19/2020 (Sat) 22:37:44 Id: 751204 No. 3804 [Reply]
Why aren't these speculating hoarders who greedily profit off of price gouging arrested?
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because that would be antisemitic and prison is for antisemitic goys.
>>3808 Calm down, this isn't /fascist/.
Americans want airline seats to be the size of hotel rooms, but do regulations have unintended consequences? Would large airplane seat mandates increase costs, hurt the economy, and raise taxes to pay for prisons? Are there other ways to solve problems without a law? Can you boycott airlines with small airline seats? Could you buy a first-class ticket to get a larger seat? Could you drive, walk, take a bus, or use a train to travel? Do you really think that tyranny only benefits you and you are exempt from the police state? Do you think that more laws might lead to bans of pillows, swimming pools, rope, toothpicks, coffee, belts, solar panels, and coal or do you think that tyranny stopped when airline seats were mandated? Don't you have personal responsibility? Can't you lose weight?

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Anonymous 11/07/2020 (Sat) 00:54:55 Id: af770b No. 4002 [Reply]
Is the watermark cope real?
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I don't understand how they would work. This could be used to tell real ballots apart from fake ones, but how it it help if somebody took a bunch of real ballots, filled them out fraudulently and then counted them?
>>4011 Yeah that's the thing it's apparent that it wouldn't be enough considering all the dead people voting and other dubious activity. However, if say a state actor got wind of the design and started flooding fake ballots into contested areas it would be pretty fuckin' clutch
Americans scream tyranny makes you safe, but reporters, lawyers, protesters, spies, homosexuals, potheads, beggars, Christians, gun-owners, and business people are arrested in a police state and murderers and thieves run the prisons.

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