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Libertarianism Lost Anonymous 11/28/2019 (Thu) 06:04:55 No. 946 [Reply] [Last]

2005-2010 was a brief renaissance in libertarianism. If you compare 2009 v. 2019, there were a LOT more libertarians and ancaps on the web and in political discourse. Since then, they've left in droves over to the alt-right, fascism, monarchism, or other ends of the political spectrum.
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>>1272
I'd explain it as although left-wing memes are of lower quality if not outright garbage, they tend to get more exposure due to media gatekeeping, censorship and influencers. "Late-stage capitalism" is such an example you'll see around, as well as the whole Russiagate delusion (not a fan of Trump but it's obvious that it's a diversionary tactic away from actually good conspiracy theories). You could argue that "climate change" is another example and is probably the epitome of a forced meme as people are told it's an existential threat. As memes are based on exposure forcing a meme on a wide enough scale, as long as it isn't too painfully obvious, can work. The effect is a chain reaction of opinion as the ignorant will parrot what seems relevant (example is apolitical British/European Youtubers making jokes about Brexit) and this does have a subliminal psychological effect on people who hear it a number of times.

Also, if the Left cannot create its own memes then it will co-opt successful memes. Hence the now-disparaged "Ok Boomer" meme, although originating from 4Chan, taking off after Soph's video, and originally criticizing mass immigration and neo-conservatism, is now used by leftists to shut down opposition to their views, because apparently boomers didn't make left-wing standpoints mainstream. Ditto to a lesser extent for the "Doomer" meme, as on 4Chan-influenced cultures it is used to imply the impending dystopia multiculturalism and creeping socialism will bring us, but any "acceptable" source will describe it's about climate change and income inequality. I think people in power as well as leftists on the ground have realized that they cannot kill memes through outrage (see Pepe), so they're twisting the meanings to suit their own agenda. Par for the course, really.
Americans are so enslaved now that Americans scream rent would be $20 million per month if there was no rent control.
>>1274 We need more memes like that.

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Anonymous 09/10/2019 (Tue) 00:41:52 Id: c49680 No. 61 [Reply]

I miss 8ch's /liberty/.
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If the government can force you to buy insurance, what's to stop them from forcing you to buy snowblowers and boats, too?
Move forwards, post, make more threads, talk about things, respond in threads you can respond in. Anon there is never going to be a second 8chan /liberty/, it will never be exactly the same. But that doesn't mean this /liberty/ can't be just as good.
Americans scream toothpicks will never be outlawed because the price of building more prisons is too expensive, but did the costs of jails stop lawmakers from banning straws?

opinions on Georgism? Anonymous 03/13/2020 (Fri) 04:30:41 Id: f65ca2 No. 2082 [Reply]

"Georgism, also called geoism[2] and single tax (archaic), is an economic ideology holding that while people should own the value they produce themselves, economic value derived from land (often including natural resources and natural opportunities) should belong equally to all members of society.[3][4][5] Developed from the writings of the economist and social reformer Henry George, the Georgist paradigm seeks solutions to social and ecological problems, based on principles of land rights and public finance which attempt to integrate economic efficiency with social justice.[6][7]

Georgism is concerned with the distribution of economic rent caused by natural monopolies, pollution and the control of commons, including title of ownership for natural resources and other contrived privileges (e.g. intellectual property). Any natural resource which is inherently limited in supply can generate economic rent, but the classical and most significant example of land monopoly involves the extraction of common ground rent from valuable urban locations. Georgists argue that taxing economic rent is efficient, fair and equitable. The main Georgist policy recommendation is a tax assessed on land value. Georgists argue that revenues from a land value tax (LVT) can be used to reduce or eliminate existing taxes (for example, on income, trade, or purchases) that are unfair and inefficient. Some Georgists also advocate for the return of surplus public revenue to the people by means of a basic income or citizen's dividend."

thoughts?
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>>2193
Well you're a minarchist so that makes more sense than an anarchist georgist. How do you prevent this tax system from becoming abusive and how do you survey the value of the land? Is you land tax different than modern property taxes?
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>>2193
>land wasn't made by anyone
Tell that to the Netherlands.
Americans think praising tyranny means that they will be safe from the police state, but no one is safe in a police state. Even dictators can be toppled. http://f2bbs.com/bbs

Video Content Thread Anonymous 10/13/2019 (Sun) 17:37:19 Id: 07c0c2 No. 266 [Reply] [Last]

Post webms and mp4s here.
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Rothbard roats Keynes:
There was a time when only murderers and thieves went to prison, but now everything is illegal and everyone is a criminal. Jailing killers and robbers with Christians, business people, and gun-owners doesn't make the unethical more moral. When everyone is criminal, society is weakened. Prison is just a university for crime that teaches you how to scam, bribe, look for loopholes, and game the system.

Random/Shitpost/Off-topic Anonymous 06/07/2020 (Sun) 06:10:18 Id: eda5df No. 3014 [Reply]
I just want to shitpost for god's sake.
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>>5402 >you have no rights speak for yourself. might is right. if you have no rights, its because you have no might. consider changing that.
>>5114 >north korea doesnt have taxes government agents confiscating 80% of your crop yields still counts as a tax in my book
The elites have turned everyone into criminals, liars, hypocrites, and cowards. The only good thing about living in a police state is that no one can take the moral high ground on anything.

Julay Rebirth Discussion Anonymous 04/28/2020 (Tue) 17:21:00 Id: 7c6240 No. 2836 [Reply]

JulayWorld is shutting down as we know it, but there is discussion about a recreation of it with the essential boards.
There might also be another migration, but look into
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I don't think /liberty/ has a site like bunkerchan if that's what you're referring to.
People once thought that more Americans would become Libertarians when the US became a police state, but now the opposite has happened. Instead of embracing freedom, Americans love tyranny more. Since the government has destroyed the economy, Americans accept welfare and think that the state is their protector. Once tyranny and brainwashing wins, people love their chains and will never love freedom again. You can be sure that some tears were real when Stalin died.

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Covid Certificate? Freedom 11/20/2021 (Sat) 19:29:37 Id: 000000 No. 4945 [Reply]
Does anyone know where I can find someone who sells legit certificates online? I need to find a rebel who believes in freedom... Any help is appreciated
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The elites are going all the way to weaken, distract, divide, and kill off the 99%. The ruling powers are using terrorism, recessions, protests, viruses, and wars to destroy the world. Would anyone be surprised if the globalists soon use a drone to bomb Topeka and then blame China to expand WWIII? The ruling class will then accuse patriots who find bomb fragments with "Made in the USA" stamped on them of being nutjobs. Billionaires may even use Hollywood special effects to stage UFO landings or the return of Jesus.
>>5427 state of AZ denied my CCW permit application due to an arrest on my record (case was dismissed), can I buy a fake one from you?
You know that you are in Hell when your wife is dying while your country is collapsing. You used to be able to work and study, but now you might find yourself spending time looking out the window counting people wearing masks and watching the Gestapo setting up roadblocks, installing surveillance cameras, and conducting door-to-door vaccinations.

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Botswana Anonymous 10/18/2019 (Fri) 11:48:59 No. 359 [Reply] [Last]

Are Botswanans the only ooga boogas that are slowly figuring out how NAP works?
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Why should Americans go fight for freedom in Iran when Americans don't have freedom in the USA?
Americans either don't know or want to know that the US is collapsing or think that nothing can be done to save the USA. Any plans or ideas to slow or escape the decay are quickly shot down as unworkable. Instead of demanding that minimum wages be repealed or checkpoints be ended, Americans would rather beg for their chains by asking for more laws. Insanity. http://f2bbs.com/bbs

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Anti-Crawl Thread Anonymous 05/13/2022 (Fri) 12:01:53 Id: 000000 No. 5351 [Reply]
Post here when you check out the board, have something that you think doesn't deserve a full thread, or just want to shoot the shit. Time to roll the dice to see if this board's captcha system will let me post or not!
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>>5434 >Nazis say that solar power must be banned citation needed
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Americans say that the answer to the police state is more tyranny.

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Anonymous 06/04/2022 (Sat) 09:05:27 Id: 1770a5 No. 5356 [Reply]
Hi lolberts. I come in peace. I am looking for the anons from 8chan.net/leftypol/ and bunkerchan.xyz. Do you know if there is an active board for memes about Albania? Did they all get jobs and shit? Probably. It looks like there is some activity on the decoy website leftypol.org so I'll ask there too.
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I mean 8ch.net I think
The left eat themselves. They literally destroyed themselves. This will always happen to the liberal left. join us here and enjoy the popcorn while witnessing yet more liberal left self consumption.
Americans scream that you cannot possibly have a society without high taxes, but why could the USA have a civilization and low taxes in 1920? Americans say that you cannot have morals without tyranny, but why could the US have morality and freedom in 1950?

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Anonymous 10/13/2022 (Thu) 15:21:29 Id: cdbae9 No. 5456 [Reply]
who do you think are russian spies that infiltrated the libertarian movement? Yeah, we can act like we're pure and immune, but the truth is that russian infiltration is not just a fantasy of the democrats.

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/liberty/ jewtubers? Anonymous 09/13/2020 (Sun) 02:05:24 Id: e94c93 No. 3721 [Reply] [Last]
Zoomer here (yes, unironically), if there's one thing I know about my generation better than anyone is that the best way to influence us is through e-celebs, and I happen to know of a few good ones: https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCa2-piBMbmik7L5-zPFmPTA https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCxZrPPhcmK_0FoE2LpqgbRw https://www.youtube.com/user/youngrippa59 https://www.bitchute.com/channel/awxvaKDmUzaI/ and by FAR the best one, (if you're only going to check out one of these channels, let it be this one!) https://www.youtube.com/channel/UC5PPbhNfajmhPq7RvkMgVmw Post some other one's you know of
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>>5003 TIK is the greatest WW2 youtuber alongside Mark Felton, got ancapilled just by watching his banker wars vids
>>5375 Wish he would post more of them already.
You will never get the majority of people to support personal responsibility. The only viable revolutions are either Commie or NatSoc. Sorry but that's just the reality.

Anonymous 11/05/2020 (Thu) 08:25:16 Id: fc1b87 No. 3988 [Reply]
now that Trump has lost, magatards won't have a leader and many of them will finally open up to new ideas, and maybe we can put them on the road to libertarian redeption. I think it's a good time to take back 4chan /pol/. Is anyone interested in pursuing a pro-libertarian pro-misesian propaganda effort?
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Americans must think out of the box. Patriots will not be allowed work, own property, shop, go to school, drive, have bank accounts, travel, see a doctor, get welfare, or start a business, but new societies and the free market will rise up to serve Libertarians. Agents will be used to provide food, fake documents, and housing. An underground railroad will be started to smuggle rebels around. The government will try to clamp down by requiring ration cards for everyone. The globalists don't care if they treat customers bad and Americans boycott companies because the elites get bailouts and subsidies. Kicking customers off websites, closing bank accounts, and banning customers doesn't matter to the ruling powers because the end game is to kill off the 99%.
>>4889 Yes, always remember the example set by the "Second Economy" of the Soviet Union. The USSR was the most oppressive state that had ever existed up until that point in history, but estimates say that still upwards of 15-20% of their economic activity as far as I recall took place outside of the government's purview. Despite people having next to nothing through official channels they were still able to trade and barter outside of them.
When the US was a free country, you might have thought that everyone loved freedom, peace, and a balanced budget. Now that the USA is a police state, Americans can easily see who are the slaves and patriots. Anyone who obeys the law is a traitor and anyone who resists is a rebel.

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Anonymous 12/23/2019 (Mon) 01:13:18 Id: 6b0f97 No. 1227 [Reply]

I'm gonna build my private ancap colony with blackjack and hookers.
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>>4984 >One Libertarian may not be able to resist being sent to the concentration camps, but one million people might. The millions of people already have the means to resist, the problem is they don't have the will. Most people don't want freedom, they want gentle masters. Related, niggers don't hate slavery, they just want non-White masters.
>>5410 >No one under 45 years old will ever know what freedom was You can know what something is without experiencing it personally. That's like saying "you don't know what rape is because you've never been raped"
Americans are just animals at this point. Money is no use in a police state and you have no choices. Only the mentally ill would say tyranny is better than freedom.

Libertarian National Socialism Anonymous 02/17/2021 (Wed) 05:44:28 Id: 3030dc No. 4342 [Reply]
>>>/pol/8031 This is a continuation of a deleted thread on /v/ https://8chan.moe/v/res/228762.html#q239225 >National or 'Nazi' as the Jew say, on the subject of Race and Eugenics. >Socialist in that Citizens should receive revenue from Publicly owned property. >Libertarian in everything else HAIL VICTORY!
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>>5409 >Who the hell has a problem with blacksmithing of all things? liberals want us disarmed and vulnerable to antifa/blm terrorism
>>5010 >White Nationalist Libertarianism was the original ideology of the USA I'm not certain the Founding Fathers as a group had any shared ideology beyond independence from foreign rulers. Sure some of them could have been called "White Nationalist Libertarians" but some others wanted Washington to be King of USA
Americans think living in a socialist police state is normal, but freedom is not some textbook theory. There are still some Americans alive today who will tell you that freedom is better.

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Occupational Licensure Anonymous 01/04/2020 (Sat) 06:48:46 Id: 311b42 No. 1299 [Reply]

Why can't libertarianism make any meaningful progress on occupational licensing? Look at this picture. Whoa, 11 states where you can maybe be a barber or a watchmaker or something. Wooo, wow, great progress.

Meanwhile, the history of pharmacist licensing has gone as follows:

1905 - 2 year degree
1932 - 4 year program
1954 - 5 year program
Current: Doctor of pharmacy degree + X hours in apprenticeship program, etc., etc..

Shit, if it improves quality so much, make it a goddam 12 year program with a 5 year apprenticeship. Why the fuck not? Is there really no upper goddam limit to these things? At the very least you'd think we could agree that occupational licensure should have a limit of--say--two years of educational training or
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Some say that the elites oppose regulations, Socialism, and immorality, but why do the globalists support minimum wages, Obamacare, and homosexuality? If the media is biased then how do you know that Biden and Trump are corrupt? https://godlike.com/
>>5341 Hey man, I think you have schizophrenia. I'm concerned.
Americans don't understand economics. Americans scream that the only possible solution to high housing costs is to destroy the economy, but why not use the free market, get rid of regulations, and build more houses? Americans say inflation is only caused by tariffs, but doesn't printing money also raise prices?

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